Subliminal Talk

(08-15-2024, 08:03 AM)AbundanceCH Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-14-2024, 05:32 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]I could make more comparisions, and i'm exaggerating some of it to make a point, but I think you guys know what i'm getting at.

I totally get your point and now that Shannon responded to your post and my post I have a lot of doubts about this program and how it would help most guys.

Shannon said we get to define what primal masculinity is...well most guys have grown up with woke BS rammed down their throats all their lives.  They don't know what true masculinity is.  So how is this program going to help them when most guys are too weak and have no idea what masculinity is?

I think when it comes to an issue such as masculinity we need training wheels.  We need a program to help us become more confident, assertive, decisive, determined, competent, stronger, dominant, courageous, self reliant and countless other traits that a masculine man has.  I don't know how having us define what primal masculinity is will help most guys who don't even know the traits of a strong, masculine man.

I hope Shannon replies to this and clarifies once he has a better idea of what the program will do.  I'll give Shannon the benefit of the doubt and hopefully he can clarify.  I was excited about this but not so much now.

I don't think the "one size fits all" approach that he is taking is right for this program.  This is an issue where men need a training wheels approach unfortunately.  This program sounds like the opposite of what Benjamin and I have been advocating it seems.

I think his approach is brilliant. 

It's being scripted to bypass resistance right out of the gate by allowing the user to execute according to his definition of masculinity. The brilliance in this approach us that the definition of masculinity isn't static. It's open-ended. That means that the goal post can continually adjust as you level up. 

That's probably as good as you could ask for as an AM7 "bootcamp" prep.

(08-14-2024, 10:55 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-14-2024, 06:35 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The idea is that your beliefs are what defines what "primal masculinity" is, and this works because your beliefs are what you choose to accept as true.  This means that Primal Masculinity will always work for you because it will always align with your beliefs.  If you wish, you can adjust, update or change your beliefs - but PM will not install them for you.  It uses what beliefs you have, and adjusts to whatever changes you make to your beliefs. 



Because of this, it doesn't matter if you cannot find one person's point of view that you agree with entirely, because you will naturally tend to build your beliefs based on parts and pieces of various different ideas and options that resonate with you personally.  So you might take some things one person says, and some things another person says, and some ideas from this philosophy, and so on.



PM will work with what you believe, and adjust as your beliefs and point of view change, so it is always aligned with what resonates with you.

Will AM7 be the type of program to help you develop your definition of masculinity or overcome toxic beliefs about masculinity? I’ve noticed my definition of masculinity evolving over time as I develop and would love it if AM7 helped with that process.

AM7 is going to be designed to both help you develop your definition of masculinity and help you define it.  It's going to have to steer you in some sense to achieve it's goals, but what I aim for with it is helping you understand what a transcendent alpha is, and then becoming that.  It defines and focuses you into your positive masculine potentials.  But I'm not interested in creating an army of robots, as that would be antithetical to being a transcendent alpha.  Likewise, I'm not trying to wholly define masculinity for you.  Each man has to find his own way, and what works for him at his personal stage of his life and journey.

(08-15-2024, 06:12 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]I've read that SM3 is supposed to impact voice and body language, but I think like I'm only starting to experience these effects now at the beginning of Stage 4.

Interestingly, I noticed this after I began playing the ultrasonic track during the day while working, but I’m not entirely sure if that’s what made the difference. It's really puzzling.

Up until now, my experience with SM3 has been pretty uneventful.
I haven’t seen any noticeable results or changes that I can clearly identify. Even when approaching women, my interactions and conversations seem to remain the same as before.


I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this

Primarily that you are without a doubt resisting the program, and that is almost certainly because of A) a very strong will and possibly deep beliefs or traulas that counter some of what it's trying to do, nd B) not being free to achieve your full potentials because you're not your own man yet.

The fact that you're getting these results, though, tells me that you can get the results, you just need to shift some things.

What I'm having trouble understanding is why having a strong will is seen as a negative thing. 

After all, it was a conscious decision on my part to choose this program, and I've seen results in the past when I consciously engaged my subconscious using affirmations, particularly in the area of relationships with women. Why is having a strong will not beneficial in this context?

If I consciously use my will to get results, wouldn't that be effective?

Also, what exactly does the new technology do to a person's will? 

Does it make them weaker-willed? This aspect is really unclear to me.

Regarding becoming a stronger man, I'm in the process of making positive changes in my life, but it's going to take time. I'm currently going to university to study computer science, with the aim of eventually changing my career path.

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

In addition to my previous questions, I’m struggling to understand how this resistance could be related to past traumas. 
In the past, I've had periods where I saw real, tangible results having multiple women being interested in having sex with me immediately, and I was dating several attractive women at the same time. 

If I was able to achieve that before, how can it be that suddenly now these supposed traumas are preventing me from getting results?

It’s puzzling to think that something I was consciously subconsciously able to achieve before is now being blocked by something that didn't subconsciously seem to hold me back previously.

I'd appreciate some clarification on this.

I know I have questions it's because I'm trying to understand all of it.
I'm really not happy with where I'm at

(08-14-2024, 05:32 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:Primal Masulinity.

Awesome, this one is the first program i've been excited about for a while. I look forward to reading the full description.

I'm partly conflicted about the no healing part, but at this point I have no desire to do any sorely healing focused program again as i'm sick of doing so. Unless it's a program that utilyzes healing as a way to move towards the goals of the program.

But general healing programs, I realized it seems to just be a way for me to stay stuck and have an excuse to stay stuck and it seemed to just go around and around and i'd start a different program then be like "oh shit I need more healing". (This doesn't exclude physical healing, just emotional).

My previous favourite program funnily enough was UH, I guess that it was because it had physical healing too and helped me in a few areas. And my favourite before that was LTU.

I have to say OGSF v2 has been my least favourite in a very long time and there's very little chance i'd go back to it.

Quote:You define what "primal masculinity" is.  Then you go after it.  I'm not here to decide that for you.

I wonder how defining this for ourselves when using a program such as this is best done? 

I had a thought a while ago that I was going to mention here or to you but I forgot until now. Would it be valuable to have something in some programs, such as this one where you're defining it for yourself, that you write it down and decide in this example "what is masculinity for me?" "what do I want masculinity to be for me?" or something similar.. and then the program helps take you in that direction. And over time you can also refine it and add to it, and read it regularly so that the program has a direction.

Personally as I think i've said here before, i've struggled to find a program, 'mentor' or whatever who is a good middle ground. It's either Andrew Tate and such telilng you that you have to have all these sports cars and a mansion, smoke cigars and have a yaucht etc to be a man, which I don't give a fuck about any of that.

Or on the other side the weak, woke bullshit that almost all of society is trying to brainwash men into so they can weaken them. And also a ton of so called 'masculinity coaches' coming up with incredibly ridiculous shit.. like.. and I can't make this up if I tried.. "if you wrestle naked with 2 of your male friends, it's only gay if you decide it's gay"  

Or just as ridiculous a workshop I seen advertised called "Crossdressing to explore your masculinity". Completely and utterly 1000% against masculinity, but this is the shit we're dealing with sadly.

It's difficult to find a middle ground, of being genuinely secure, having real self worth as a man, developing genuine strength physically, mentally, emotionally, developing genuine ability to protect yourself but only if it's really needed, going for what you want and not giving a shit what others think even if it goes against what they tell you that you should want and such. Also is the 'fake tough guys' talking about how tough they are, will smash anyone who looks at them funny and such.. which i've known ever since I did security are completely full of shit and usually disappear when shit gets real. Then on the other side "You have to show compassion and love to absolutely everybody, no matter how much they abuse or bully you or treat you, and tolerate everything even things that are completely disgusting and ruining society, plus it's never okay to have to ever fight ever no matter what, just tell them they hurt your feelings and give them a cuddle and they won't try to punch you anymore".

I could make more comparisions, and i'm exaggerating some of it to make a point, but I think you guys know what i'm getting at.

Written definitions, affirmations, instructions, and so on, do work very well. I've used them for years to test scripts before committing to turn them into subliminals. First, the subconscious has to be programed to react to them, otherwise it's pointless. 
The subconscious, stupid as a rock, then proceeds to program into you everything you write. So the trick is to add triggers: 

for example:

*#Strt (this would mean start of definition)
*#ND (this would mean end of definition)

*#Strt Masculinity is also... *#ND

You would also need Undoing because most times, what you think you want or need comes with unwanted side effects, in this case:

*#UndoStrt Masculinity is also... *#UndoND


As for making effective programs, treating only one issue is basically pointless. Doesn't surprise me that you're not having success with healing.

I found that these are essential ingredients/foundations in every program:

* Self confidence/ Self esteem /Fearlessness /Rebirth /Healing (physical, mental, etc, because unbalanced hormones, neurotransmitters, toxins, inflammation, especially in your brain will cause havoc in subliminal results and in life.

* Success Mindset/ Victorious mindset/ Winner mindset : Self explanatory, tends to affect everything and it's the mindset that all successful people have..

* Positivity: Self explanatory, tends to improve everything.

* Readiness: Should have similar results to that new 'time management' subliminal. 

* Love life /Sexual life improvement: It's a biological instinct that must be fed. When we are assexual or not sexually active /dating, we are unknowingly sending the message to our whole biology that we are ready to die, because, with the exception of our neocortex, the whole purpose of our biology is to reproduce. Without passion for sex, dating, loving and desiring, everything starts to go worse until we feel like dying. The opposite is also true. The second most powerful force in the Universe is sexual. The first is 'Spiritual' but that is a theme for another time since 99% of people aren't ready for it or aren't ready for it until their biological instincts are met beforehand. Took me years of testing this on myself. If I can approach women successfully and if I'm always aroused by them I'm always in awe of life and being alive. If I can't approach women and if I'm not aroused by them, everything starts do go downhill fast until I don't even feel alive anymore. We are pure biological creatures unless we are in the 'spirit realms'. If we are in the 'spirit realms' we cannot function in this world, therefore, our biological instincts must be taken cared of before anything else. 

* Intelligence / Cognition/ Fast learning ability: This is the secret subliminal booster that subliminal producers can't seem to grasp. Each and everything that improves your intelligence, cognition, fast learning ability, memory has a brutal difference on subliminal results and in real life. Any type of performance, from sports to seduction immediately comes to mind. Having the perfect action or answer ready every time. Knowing what to say and do in every occasion. Computing millions of options in one second before committing to the best one. learning extremely fast from every mistake... This is the BOMB! In fact, I found out that my self confidence comes from this. Without a properly working brain I am never self confident.

* Anxiolytic Attributes aka stopping 'fight or flight' mode: Rather than explaining. Go read the effects of 'Propranolol' and the rating of 10/10 by most people. To be honest, there is no point in doing this one unless it can be done perfectly because one can buy 10g of Propranolol for $30 in the Asian markets.

* I'm sure I'm forgetting something, as usual. 

So you see, unless every program already combines all of these at the foundations you will rarely be satisfied. You might feel satisfied but feeling is not being. One can feel like a God on earth in it's own head yet never actually do more than any other random dude in the real world. For subliminals I always say: rate them as you would in a court of law or scientific blind placebo tests. 

Hey, I want a discount for this information.


One day I might tell you how to do mind control.  Learnt from the very best.

OGSF v2 has really taken out my fears only in 10 days of usage. Can I start Alpha Male and keep using OGSF v2 as needed, from time to time, in case of major resistances (to AM6). I really think I can do it, but what is Shannon's advice?

(08-15-2024, 10:06 AM)Vehe Wrote: [ -> ]* Self confidence/ Self esteem /Fearlessness /Rebirth /Healing (physical, mental, etc, because unbalanced hormones, neurotransmitters, toxins, inflammation, especially in your brain will cause havoc in subliminal results and in life.

I always believed this is why UH worked so well for me in terms of emotional healing - I think the physical aspect played a significant role. I also ran a physical healing sub a while ago and surprisingly it had an emotional healing effect on me as well

I hope you will bring UH back some day @Shannon

Hello Shannon,
If I own Ultra Success/Luck Maximizer 4.2 (5.75.3g - Type A/B/C/D) can I run let's say the older v3 side B, I'm sure the price was the same, just wanted to clear this up before I experiment with something, and yes I paid for 4.2.
2nd question I owe the old Core States of Awareness Exploration Kit which I use for meditation, my dad wanted to try the alpha audio do I need to purchase it again for him to test, here's the thing if it helps him in meditation, I will get a copy for him, not trying to cheat here as I have the money, it's just that it may not suit him.
Thank you.

(08-15-2024, 08:37 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-14-2024, 10:55 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ]Will AM7 be the type of program to help you develop your definition of masculinity or overcome toxic beliefs about masculinity? I’ve noticed my definition of masculinity evolving over time as I develop and would love it if AM7 helped with that process.

AM7 is going to be designed to both help you develop your definition of masculinity and help you define it.  It's going to have to steer you in some sense to achieve it's goals, but what I aim for with it is helping you understand what a transcendent alpha is, and then becoming that.  It defines and focuses you into your positive masculine potentials.  But I'm not interested in creating an army of robots, as that would be antithetical to being a transcendent alpha.  Likewise, I'm not trying to wholly define masculinity for you.  Each man has to find his own way, and what works for him at his personal stage of his life and journey.

Sick! That sounds awesome!

(08-15-2024, 10:44 AM)saamaanazizi Wrote: [ -> ]OGSF v2 has really taken out my fears only in 10 days of usage. Can I start Alpha Male and keep using OGSF v2 as needed, from time to time, in case of major resistances (to AM6). I really think I can do it, but what is Shannon's advice?

No.  Use OGSF as instructed.

(08-15-2024, 12:15 PM)dweller94 Wrote: [ -> ]Hello Shannon,
If I own Ultra Success/Luck Maximizer 4.2 (5.75.3g - Type A/B/C/D) can I run let's say the older v3 side B, I'm sure the price was the same, just wanted to clear this up before I experiment with something, and yes I paid for 4.2.

I don't understand your question.  If you bought both, why not?

Quote:2nd question I owe the old Core States of Awareness Exploration Kit which I use for meditation, my dad wanted to try the alpha audio do I need to purchase it again for him to test, here's the thing if it helps him in meditation, I will get a copy for him, not trying to cheat here as I have the money, it's just that it may not suit him.

Thank you.

He cannot use it unless he is exposed as a side effect of you using it.  If you play it on speakers for yourself and he is exposed, that is okay.  But that will be decidedly less effective than using headphones.  However, headphones you cannot use it for yourself and have him exposed as a side effect.

So either you expose him while using it for yourself on speakers, or you need to buy a copy for him.

(08-15-2024, 10:06 AM)Vehe Wrote: [ -> ]

(08-14-2024, 05:32 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Awesome, this one is the first program i've been excited about for a while. I look forward to reading the full description.

I'm partly conflicted about the no healing part, but at this point I have no desire to do any sorely healing focused program again as i'm sick of doing so. Unless it's a program that utilyzes healing as a way to move towards the goals of the program.

But general healing programs, I realized it seems to just be a way for me to stay stuck and have an excuse to stay stuck and it seemed to just go around and around and i'd start a different program then be like "oh shit I need more healing". (This doesn't exclude physical healing, just emotional).

My previous favourite program funnily enough was UH, I guess that it was because it had physical healing too and helped me in a few areas. And my favourite before that was LTU.

I have to say OGSF v2 has been my least favourite in a very long time and there's very little chance i'd go back to it.


I wonder how defining this for ourselves when using a program such as this is best done? 

I had a thought a while ago that I was going to mention here or to you but I forgot until now. Would it be valuable to have something in some programs, such as this one where you're defining it for yourself, that you write it down and decide in this example "what is masculinity for me?" "what do I want masculinity to be for me?" or something similar.. and then the program helps take you in that direction. And over time you can also refine it and add to it, and read it regularly so that the program has a direction.

Personally as I think i've said here before, i've struggled to find a program, 'mentor' or whatever who is a good middle ground. It's either Andrew Tate and such telilng you that you have to have all these sports cars and a mansion, smoke cigars and have a yaucht etc to be a man, which I don't give a fuck about any of that.

Or on the other side the weak, woke bullshit that almost all of society is trying to brainwash men into so they can weaken them. And also a ton of so called 'masculinity coaches' coming up with incredibly ridiculous shit.. like.. and I can't make this up if I tried.. "if you wrestle naked with 2 of your male friends, it's only gay if you decide it's gay"  

Or just as ridiculous a workshop I seen advertised called "Crossdressing to explore your masculinity". Completely and utterly 1000% against masculinity, but this is the shit we're dealing with sadly.

It's difficult to find a middle ground, of being genuinely secure, having real self worth as a man, developing genuine strength physically, mentally, emotionally, developing genuine ability to protect yourself but only if it's really needed, going for what you want and not giving a shit what others think even if it goes against what they tell you that you should want and such. Also is the 'fake tough guys' talking about how tough they are, will smash anyone who looks at them funny and such.. which i've known ever since I did security are completely full of shit and usually disappear when shit gets real. Then on the other side "You have to show compassion and love to absolutely everybody, no matter how much they abuse or bully you or treat you, and tolerate everything even things that are completely disgusting and ruining society, plus it's never okay to have to ever fight ever no matter what, just tell them they hurt your feelings and give them a cuddle and they won't try to punch you anymore".

I could make more comparisions, and i'm exaggerating some of it to make a point, but I think you guys know what i'm getting at.

Written definitions, affirmations, instructions, and so on, do work very well. I've used them for years to test scripts before committing to turn them into subliminals. First, the subconscious has to be programed to react to them, otherwise it's pointless. 
The subconscious, stupid as a rock, then proceeds to program into you everything you write. So the trick is to add triggers: 

for example:

*#Strt (this would mean start of definition)
*#ND (this would mean end of definition)

*#Strt Masculinity is also... *#ND

You would also need Undoing because most times, what you think you want or need comes with unwanted side effects, in this case:

*#UndoStrt Masculinity is also... *#UndoND


As for making effective programs, treating only one issue is basically pointless. Doesn't surprise me that you're not having success with healing.

I found that these are essential ingredients/foundations in every program:

* Self confidence/ Self esteem /Fearlessness /Rebirth /Healing (physical, mental, etc, because unbalanced hormones, neurotransmitters, toxins, inflammation, especially in your brain will cause havoc in subliminal results and in life.

* Success Mindset/ Victorious mindset/ Winner mindset : Self explanatory, tends to affect everything and it's the mindset that all successful people have..

* Positivity: Self explanatory, tends to improve everything.

* Readiness: Should have similar results to that new 'time management' subliminal. 

* Love life /Sexual life improvement: It's a biological instinct that must be fed. When we are assexual or not sexually active /dating, we are unknowingly sending the message to our whole biology that we are ready to die, because, with the exception of our neocortex, the whole purpose of our biology is to reproduce. Without passion for sex, dating, loving and desiring, everything starts to go worse until we feel like dying. The opposite is also true. The second most powerful force in the Universe is sexual. The first is 'Spiritual' but that is a theme for another time since 99% of people aren't ready for it or aren't ready for it until their biological instincts are met beforehand. Took me years of testing this on myself. If I can approach women successfully and if I'm always aroused by them I'm always in awe of life and being alive. If I can't approach women and if I'm not aroused by them, everything starts do go downhill fast until I don't even feel alive anymore. We are pure biological creatures unless we are in the 'spirit realms'. If we are in the 'spirit realms' we cannot function in this world, therefore, our biological instincts must be taken cared of before anything else. 

* Intelligence / Cognition/ Fast learning ability: This is the secret subliminal booster that subliminal producers can't seem to grasp. Each and everything that improves your intelligence, cognition, fast learning ability, memory has a brutal difference on subliminal results and in real life. Any type of performance, from sports to seduction immediately comes to mind. Having the perfect action or answer ready every time. Knowing what to say and do in every occasion. Computing millions of options in one second before committing to the best one. learning extremely fast from every mistake... This is the BOMB! In fact, I found out that my self confidence comes from this. Without a properly working brain I am never self confident.

* Anxiolytic Attributes aka stopping 'fight or flight' mode: Rather than explaining. Go read the effects of 'Propranolol' and the rating of 10/10 by most people. To be honest, there is no point in doing this one unless it can be done perfectly because one can buy 10g of Propranolol for $30 in the Asian markets.

* I'm sure I'm forgetting something, as usual. 

So you see, unless every program already combines all of these at the foundations you will rarely be satisfied. You might feel satisfied but feeling is not being. One can feel like a God on earth in it's own head yet never actually do more than any other random dude in the real world. For subliminals I always say: rate them as you would in a court of law or scientific blind placebo tests. 

Hey, I want a discount for this information.


One day I might tell you how to do mind control.  Learnt from the very best.

I find a number of serious errors in your post here that tell me that your understanding of the subconscious and how to make safe and effective subliminals is not what you seem to think it is.  I'll give you one example, because it is not possible for me to respond to everything given the restraints on my time. 

You state that the subconscious is "stupid as a rock".  That belief can only come from one of two things: Either you're still using research that was done between 1930's and 1980's, or you conclude that because you don't understand the subconscious well enough to know better.  On the contrary, your subconscious is vastly smarter and more capable than your conscious mind is, and my decades of research and experiments have borne that out more than a few dozen times now.

Given how fundamental the understanding of the falsity of that one thing is to making subliminals, I can only conclude that you have arrived at multiple other errors in logic and judgement as to how to make safe and useful subliminal scripts. 

You also state that you might one day tell me how to do mind control.  My customers come to me because they trust that I will never take away their free will.  Mind control is not my goal.  However, I have known how to do two different forms of mind control for more than 12 years now.  I have no use for mind control.

Your apparent willingness to use mind control tells me that you are not aware of the costs and consequences of using such a thing, or you don't care.  Neither is a good thing.

I suggest that before you would purport to teach someone how to make subliminals, you make sure you know how to do what you are claiming to know how to do.  So I have serious doubts about you really having sufficient understanding of the subconscious to make safe and useful subliminal scripts, and I have questions about your morals.  This post also smacks of ego and attention seeking.  I am not impressed so far.

(08-15-2024, 09:45 AM)Topaz Wrote: [ -> ]What I'm having trouble understanding is why having a strong will is seen as a negative thing.

Having a strong will isn't, in itself, a negative thing.  However, it enables higher levels of resistance than not having a strong will.  5G was where we discovered how to communicate sufficiently with the subconscious to trigger serious resistance, and it was not capable of handling serious resistance, which is why I started developing 6G.

Quote:After all, it was a conscious decision on my part to choose this program, and I've seen results in the past when I consciously engaged my subconscious using affirmations, particularly in the area of relationships with women. Why is having a strong will not beneficial in this context?

Consciously engaging your subconscious using affirmations, and consciously engaging your subconscious using subliminals, is not the same thing at all.

Affirmations engages what is known as the "shallow subconscious", which is easily accessed and generally cooperative.  Using a 5th Gen subliminal will attempt to engage ALL of your subconscious, and that can trigger resistance from one or more parts of your subconscious, which for whatever eason do not agree with the goals of the script.  Usually this is because they hold some sort of belief that contradicts the goal of the script directly, or because they hold some sort of belief that triggers a fear reaction to achieving the goal of the script for some reason.  It does not have to be a logical reason, at all, since the subconscious is not rational.

Quote:If I consciously use my will to get results, wouldn't that be effective?

It depends on how you do so, what parts of your subconscious you engage to do so and what beliefs those parts hold.

Quote:Also, what exactly does the new technology do to a person's will? 

Does it make them weaker-willed? This aspect is really unclear to me.

The newer technology does not make you weaker willed.  Instead, it works to get cooperation from those parts that are resisting or would resist otherwise.

Quote:Regarding becoming a stronger man, I'm in the process of making positive changes in my life, but it's going to take time. I'm currently going to university to study computer science, with the aim of eventually changing my career path.

Thanks for your thoughts on this.

In addition to my previous questions, I’m struggling to understand how this resistance could be related to past traumas. 
In the past, I've had periods where I saw real, tangible results having multiple women being interested in having sex with me immediately, and I was dating several attractive women at the same time.

Your subconscious mind is not monolithic.  It exists as different levels of awareness, different type of awareness and different parts within levels.  The "shallow subconscious" is easily accessed from the conscious mind directly, and usually it is cooperative because it is not where your formative experiences and beliefs are held.  Those are deeper, and they go all the way back to when your physical brain was still forming in the womb.  The vast majority of these levels and the experiences and resultant beliefs they hold are sub-conscious and you are consciously completely unaware of them until something forces them to respond in a way the conscious mind can observe.  For example, feeding into the deeper levels of your awareness a set of instructions that triggers a resistance response. 

In 5th Gen, I was able to reach down into the meso-subconscious.  You can make general sense of that by dividing the subconscious into three major sections, the "shallow", the "meso" (middle) and the "deep"  The meso-subconscious is where you begin holding important formative experiences and beliefs, and while these are almost never obvious to the conscious mind, they may in fact disagree with the conscious mind and it's beliefs and conclusions to a surprising degree.  If you introduce a set of instructions to this level, and it concludes that the instructions directly or indirectly contradict it's accepted beliefs (or would lead to literal death, which the subconscious concludes with shocking frequency when fear is involved, even when that is ridiculous and absurd to a preposterous degree) you will get a resistance response if you do not take the appropriate actions.  Those appropriate actions have come to be understood during the ~13 years it took me to work my way from 5th Gen to 6th Gen.  They are therefore not present in 5th Gen, and thus the recourse for them is to use the program for longer to work you through them, which is why I advised at least one more run through of Alpha Male 6.

Quote:If I was able to achieve that before, how can it be that suddenly now these supposed traumas are preventing me from getting results?

Because now you are asking the parts of you that hold these traumatic memories to participate in ways they irrationally conclude will somehow result in your literal death.  No joke, that's what it turns out to be at the root.  Remember, those parts of you have NO ability to think logically.  To them, the absurdities you dream at night male perfect sense literally, and they are not in the slightest bit absurd.  To the conscious mind, however, they are frequently absurd because they are symbolic and irrational instead of logical.

Quote:It’s puzzling to think that something I was consciously subconsciously able to achieve before is now being blocked by something that didn't subconsciously seem to hold me back previously.

I'd appreciate some clarification on this.

I know I have questions it's because I'm trying to understand all of it.
I'm really not happy with where I'm at

So if you are having traumas holding you back, and it's not just your situation with you not being your own man - and I can't be absolutely sure there are traumas holding you back without more information - you're going to need to un-tangle and heal those traumas to move forward.  The best choice for that is EHPRA6 or OGSF2.  If you don't want to spend money on those, we have a free EHPRA, I believe it's currently v2.  That will definitely shine some light on what you're dealing with, and work you through it.

If you're not dealing with trauma, the best option would be to use AM6 until you work yourself through the issues.  Most of us who used it required 2-3 runs through it.

Thank you for the lengthy answer I'm sure it's not easy to explain everything.

The free V of EHPRA is currently 5G as I understand...
And as I understand SM3 has it in every stage...
So I'm not sure how is that any different

As I understand from you even though I don't see any benefits to SM3 I should still complete it anyway before doing something else?

I think that's the main frustration of mine doing something that I don't get the benefits of....

Maybe somehow I will see benefits with continued repeation? ( Stage 5 6 7)