Subliminal Talk

(02-11-2017, 06:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]First, let's take these words "blame" and "fault". The reason you have some of this issue is the frame you're using. There's no blame or fault. We are discussing a situation in which you are frustrated at the outcome of using a subliminal.

Second, let's consider that you consciously and you subconsciously are not the same. You consciously can desperately want the result, while you subconsciously can be dead set against it. This is why a lot of people who are overweight stay that way in spite of all their conscious efforts to change.

Consciously, you may be trying. Consciously, you may be taking your share of the responsibility. And that's all well and good. But there is some part of you that is choosing to not cooperate. Choosing to not execute the script. That part of you is still part of you. And that means that as frustrating as it may be for you consciously, you are still responsible for any success or failure you have with one of these programs.

That's why when people thank me for getting them the results, I remind them that I didn't do it, they did.

You have to take responsibility for your choices and actions, even if they are subconscious, because otherwise that part of you can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Hidden Mystic Pymp screws everything up, public Mystic Pymp says it's because Shannon's technology doesn't work. Hidden Mystic Pymp is responsible for the outcome, but is not being held accountable. Which perpetuates the situation.

Consciously taking responsibility for your subconscious choices and actions and their results isn't fun, but it's what adults do. It's also how to make change happen regardless. And that is what we are after.

I am working on this issue so we can make it something that gets dealt with automatically and subconsciously, but until and unless I figure this out... you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices, and your actions, and your results - even if they are subconscious - because otherwise you have no hope of making a change that gets you the results you want.

I'm not blaming you. I'm not saying you're at fault. I am telling you the facts... and sometimes, them's not fun to hear. But they are the facts. And if you want to help yourself get the results while I try to figure out how to automate the process... you have to do what I told you needed to be done.

You're getting worse results because some part of you is giving less cooperation.

(02-12-2017, 04:14 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Shannon, great update and I start to get what you meant. Gotta think about it to be honest. Gotta think a lot.

Shannon, I think everyone testing DMSI has benefited from this explanation!!

Mystic Pymp, I'm glad this post from Shannon brought you some insight. Shannon's explanation gave me some insight as to what is going on too!!

(02-12-2017, 06:24 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-11-2017, 06:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]First, let's take these words "blame" and "fault". The reason you have some of this issue is the frame you're using. There's no blame or fault. We are discussing a situation in which you are frustrated at the outcome of using a subliminal.

Second, let's consider that you consciously and you subconsciously are not the same. You consciously can desperately want the result, while you subconsciously can be dead set against it. This is why a lot of people who are overweight stay that way in spite of all their conscious efforts to change.

Consciously, you may be trying. Consciously, you may be taking your share of the responsibility. And that's all well and good. But there is some part of you that is choosing to not cooperate. Choosing to not execute the script. That part of you is still part of you. And that means that as frustrating as it may be for you consciously, you are still responsible for any success or failure you have with one of these programs.

That's why when people thank me for getting them the results, I remind them that I didn't do it, they did.

You have to take responsibility for your choices and actions, even if they are subconscious, because otherwise that part of you can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Hidden Mystic Pymp screws everything up, public Mystic Pymp says it's because Shannon's technology doesn't work. Hidden Mystic Pymp is responsible for the outcome, but is not being held accountable. Which perpetuates the situation.

Consciously taking responsibility for your subconscious choices and actions and their results isn't fun, but it's what adults do. It's also how to make change happen regardless. And that is what we are after.

I am working on this issue so we can make it something that gets dealt with automatically and subconsciously, but until and unless I figure this out... you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices, and your actions, and your results - even if they are subconscious - because otherwise you have no hope of making a change that gets you the results you want.

I'm not blaming you. I'm not saying you're at fault. I am telling you the facts... and sometimes, them's not fun to hear. But they are the facts. And if you want to help yourself get the results while I try to figure out how to automate the process... you have to do what I told you needed to be done.

You're getting worse results because some part of you is giving less cooperation.

(02-12-2017, 04:14 AM)Mystic Pymp Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Shannon, great update and I start to get what you meant. Gotta think about it to be honest. Gotta think a lot.

Shannon, I think everyone testing DMSI has benefited from this explanation!!

Mystic Pymp, I'm glad this post from Shannon brought you some insight. Shannon's explanation gave me some insight as to what is going on too!!

I have been trying for some time to figure out how to communicate that effectively.

(02-11-2017, 06:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]First, let's take these words "blame" and "fault". The reason you have some of this issue is the frame you're using. There's no blame or fault. We are discussing a situation in which you are frustrated at the outcome of using a subliminal.

Second, let's consider that you consciously and you subconsciously are not the same. You consciously can desperately want the result, while you subconsciously can be dead set against it. This is why a lot of people who are overweight stay that way in spite of all their conscious efforts to change.

Consciously, you may be trying. Consciously, you may be taking your share of the responsibility. And that's all well and good. But there is some part of you that is choosing to not cooperate. Choosing to not execute the script. That part of you is still part of you. And that means that as frustrating as it may be for you consciously, you are still responsible for any success or failure you have with one of these programs.

That's why when people thank me for getting them the results, I remind them that I didn't do it, they did.

You have to take responsibility for your choices and actions, even if they are subconscious, because otherwise that part of you can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Hidden Mystic Pymp screws everything up, public Mystic Pymp says it's because Shannon's technology doesn't work. Hidden Mystic Pymp is responsible for the outcome, but is not being held accountable. Which perpetuates the situation.

Consciously taking responsibility for your subconscious choices and actions and their results isn't fun, but it's what adults do. It's also how to make change happen regardless. And that is what we are after.

I am working on this issue so we can make it something that gets dealt with automatically and subconsciously, but until and unless I figure this out... you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices, and your actions, and your results - even if they are subconscious - because otherwise you have no hope of making a change that gets you the results you want.

I'm not blaming you. I'm not saying you're at fault. I am telling you the facts... and sometimes, them's not fun to hear. But they are the facts. And if you want to help yourself get the results while I try to figure out how to automate the process... you have to do what I told you needed to be done.

You're getting worse results because some part of you is giving less cooperation.

Thanks for this post Shannon. It clears a lot of misunderstanding.

I'm a stonewaller most of the time as well, or just way too slow accepting the script. I realize, a lot of the time, I'm stubborn consciously when I'm told to do something, but once I'm done feeling butthurt about it, I'll execute it willingly.

Anything you recommend doing in order to take responsibility for our subconscious choices? I'm working on it consciously and I think I'm getting pretty good at it, but how to do it for our subconscious choices as well? Is it a matter of time, or could we be taking conscious action to help the process?

I see you've already made improvements with the modules that address this since your post, but I'm willing to do whatever it takes to work on it consciously as well, if possible.

Thanks again!

(02-13-2017, 07:52 AM)Blink Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-11-2017, 06:02 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]First, let's take these words "blame" and "fault". The reason you have some of this issue is the frame you're using. There's no blame or fault. We are discussing a situation in which you are frustrated at the outcome of using a subliminal.

Second, let's consider that you consciously and you subconsciously are not the same. You consciously can desperately want the result, while you subconsciously can be dead set against it. This is why a lot of people who are overweight stay that way in spite of all their conscious efforts to change.

Consciously, you may be trying. Consciously, you may be taking your share of the responsibility. And that's all well and good. But there is some part of you that is choosing to not cooperate. Choosing to not execute the script. That part of you is still part of you. And that means that as frustrating as it may be for you consciously, you are still responsible for any success or failure you have with one of these programs.

That's why when people thank me for getting them the results, I remind them that I didn't do it, they did.

You have to take responsibility for your choices and actions, even if they are subconscious, because otherwise that part of you can do whatever it wants and get away with it. Hidden Mystic Pymp screws everything up, public Mystic Pymp says it's because Shannon's technology doesn't work. Hidden Mystic Pymp is responsible for the outcome, but is not being held accountable. Which perpetuates the situation.

Consciously taking responsibility for your subconscious choices and actions and their results isn't fun, but it's what adults do. It's also how to make change happen regardless. And that is what we are after.

I am working on this issue so we can make it something that gets dealt with automatically and subconsciously, but until and unless I figure this out... you still have to take personal responsibility for your choices, and your actions, and your results - even if they are subconscious - because otherwise you have no hope of making a change that gets you the results you want.

I'm not blaming you. I'm not saying you're at fault. I am telling you the facts... and sometimes, them's not fun to hear. But they are the facts. And if you want to help yourself get the results while I try to figure out how to automate the process... you have to do what I told you needed to be done.

You're getting worse results because some part of you is giving less cooperation.

Thanks for this post Shannon. It clears a lot of misunderstanding.

I'm a stonewaller most of the time as well, or just way too slow accepting the script. I realize, a lot of the time, I'm stubborn consciously when I'm told to do something, but once I'm done feeling butthurt about it, I'll execute it willingly.

Anything you recommend doing in order to take responsibility for our subconscious choices? I'm working on it consciously and I think I'm getting pretty good at it, but how to do it for our subconscious choices as well? Is it a matter of time, or could we be taking conscious action to help the process?

I see you've already made improvements with the modules that address this since your post, but I'm willing to do whatever it takes to work on it consciously as well, if possible.

Thanks again!

Before I say anything else, I will preface this by saying that I have this component in my personality also.

It's a matter of the level of maturity of that part of you that is being resistant and stubborn. In my case, it has cost me a lot of friends and business opportunities, and reflecting on those losses and the ridiculous nature of them was motivation for me to seek change. I did that by first training myself to consciously be aware of and then intercepting the conscious responses that led to those outcomes. It wasn't fun, but I then forced myself to consider the consequences and the results and understand that "having it my way" and "being right" were sorry excuses for a "win" compared to what I was trying to achieve.

I then forced myself to outgrow those responses and trained myself to choose the outcome that made the most sense and made me the happiest. "Ha ha, I trashed my long term friendship because I was right, fuck you!" isn't it.

Some of it is awareness. Some of it is understanding the outcome and consciously choosing the one you want. Some of it is forcing growth that leads to choosing the best outcome, instead of the one that gives you control, or makes you "right".

When the issue is dealing with a subconscious part of yourself, this becomes significantly more difficult because that part is harder to access, influence and change from the conscious perspective. There are still days when I sit at home gridlocked because Little Shannon doesn't wanna! and Big Shannon does. That little guy is STRONG! Of course he is - he is strong for the exact same reasons I am.

The thing that works for me in this case is to try to understand his response. Why are we resisting cleaning the house? It makes Big Me happy to have a clean house. Apparently, Little Me thinks of clutter as a reminder of dearly departed mom.

Understanding why you are resisting is a big step to making change. Once you understand why you are resisting, you can consciously work to remove the blocks. Asking yourself, "Why am I resisting this?" and then listening for the answer is a good way to do it. Sometimes the answer comes immediately, sometimes it takes a while. Sometimes you'll find it in a dream, or a daydream, or a thought.

If it takes a while, try to think back on your memories and find what a possible reason could be. Then consciously work to fix the issue and reassure Little You that it's safe to cooperate, and that both of you will benefit.

But listen to your inner self and it's concerns. They're not a joke, they matter and they're valid, even if they may be based on a perspective that is misunderstanding something or based in fear.

(02-13-2017, 03:09 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Before I say anything else, I will preface this by saying that I have this component in my personality also.

It's a matter of the level of maturity of that part of you that is being resistant and stubborn. In my case, it has cost me a lot of friends and business opportunities, and reflecting on those losses and the ridiculous nature of them was motivation for me to seek change. I did that by first training myself to consciously be aware of and then intercepting the conscious responses that led to those outcomes. It wasn't fun, but I then forced myself to consider the consequences and the results and understand that "having it my way" and "being right" were sorry excuses for a "win" compared to what I was trying to achieve.

I then forced myself to outgrow those responses and trained myself to choose the outcome that made the most sense and made me the happiest. "Ha ha, I trashed my long term friendship because I was right, **** you!" isn't it.

Some of it is awareness. Some of it is understanding the outcome and consciously choosing the one you want. Some of it is forcing growth that leads to choosing the best outcome, instead of the one that gives you control, or makes you "right".

When the issue is dealing with a subconscious part of yourself, this becomes significantly more difficult because that part is harder to access, influence and change from the conscious perspective. There are still days when I sit at home gridlocked because Little Shannon doesn't wanna! and Big Shannon does. That little guy is STRONG! Of course he is - he is strong for the exact same reasons I am.

The thing that works for me in this case is to try to understand his response. Why are we resisting cleaning the house? It makes Big Me happy to have a clean house. Apparently, Little Me thinks of clutter as a reminder of dearly departed mom.

Understanding why you are resisting is a big step to making change. Once you understand why you are resisting, you can consciously work to remove the blocks. Asking yourself, "Why am I resisting this?" and then listening for the answer is a good way to do it. Sometimes the answer comes immediately, sometimes it takes a while. Sometimes you'll find it in a dream, or a daydream, or a thought.

If it takes a while, try to think back on your memories and find what a possible reason could be. Then consciously work to fix the issue and reassure Little You that it's safe to cooperate, and that both of you will benefit.

But listen to your inner self and it's concerns. They're not a joke, they matter and they're valid, even if they may be based on a perspective that is misunderstanding something or based in fear.

You should put this in a sticky somewhere, I'm serious. With this and previous post you really showed me flow in my line on thinking. I'd always say that I don't expect subs to be magic pill to cure all my problems, but what I really thought was that as long as I would deal with my conscious problems I expected subs would help me with my subconscious ones. And while (rightfully so) I still expect them to help I start to understand that I'll need to put some work into my subconscious as well in order to succeed.

I'm not sure how to do it. There is way through sheer will which, no matter how strong, sooner or later will fail, but maybe there is way through understanding. Not only "know thyself" but rather "learn and teach yourself". Almost like teaching this little Mystic not to be afraid, teaching him that he actually deserves all the good in this world and that change, while scary, is sometimes necessary. My conscious understands it perfectly and is sick of being pushed from the spotlight, but as long as my subconscious is safe there in the shadows I cannot walk far. Both must walk in unison, otherwise it is all in vain.

Thank you Shannon! That makes a lot of sense. A good reminder of asking questions or talking to the subconscious too. I always forget that part...

I can already feel the road being ugly and tough. But we start somewhere.

Quote:Before I say anything else, I will preface this by saying that I have this component in my personality also.

It's a matter of the level of maturity of that part of you that is being resistant and stubborn. In my case, it has cost me a lot of friends and business opportunities, and reflecting on those losses and the ridiculous nature of them was motivation for me to seek change. I did that by first training myself to consciously be aware of and then intercepting the conscious responses that led to those outcomes. It wasn't fun, but I then forced myself to consider the consequences and the results and understand that "having it my way" and "being right" were sorry excuses for a "win" compared to what I was trying to achieve.

I then forced myself to outgrow those responses and trained myself to choose the outcome that made the most sense and made me the happiest. "Ha ha, I trashed my long term friendship because I was right, **** you!" isn't it.

Some of it is awareness. Some of it is understanding the outcome and consciously choosing the one you want. Some of it is forcing growth that leads to choosing the best outcome, instead of the one that gives you control, or makes you "right".

When the issue is dealing with a subconscious part of yourself, this becomes significantly more difficult because that part is harder to access, influence and change from the conscious perspective. There are still days when I sit at home gridlocked because Little Shannon doesn't wanna! and Big Shannon does. That little guy is STRONG! Of course he is - he is strong for the exact same reasons I am.

The thing that works for me in this case is to try to understand his response. Why are we resisting cleaning the house? It makes Big Me happy to have a clean house. Apparently, Little Me thinks of clutter as a reminder of dearly departed mom.

Understanding why you are resisting is a big step to making change. Once you understand why you are resisting, you can consciously work to remove the blocks. Asking yourself, "Why am I resisting this?" and then listening for the answer is a good way to do it. Sometimes the answer comes immediately, sometimes it takes a while. Sometimes you'll find it in a dream, or a daydream, or a thought.

If it takes a while, try to think back on your memories and find what a possible reason could be. Then consciously work to fix the issue and reassure Little You that it's safe to cooperate, and that both of you will benefit.

But listen to your inner self and it's concerns. They're not a joke, they matter and they're valid, even if they may be based on a perspective that is misunderstanding something or based in fear.

Interesting, I still don't know exactly how but I will explore that with what is happening now. Exploring by asking what i'm afraid of got this big issue of abandonment and such to come up and i've tried to explore it but not much has come up.

In response to Shannons' post, for me I feel I have identified some of the blocks. This was during the time I was running v3b as it was shifting my reality, I got a number of messages from my higher self and after as a result concluded that somewhere in this mind infinitely complex mind of mine deep somewhere there it was the message ' I am not ready! '. I know, I may have been led to believe this as a result of my previous experiences, but even as I try to break free from this in certain situations I do something to cock it up, usually inaction. I have pinpointed that it's down to not having self-confidence which somewhat links to not being ready or believing in myself. Which is why I wanted an ASC module in there beefed up, not just for myself cause yeah being confident is a plus 1, but truly believing that I am ready for the reality dimsee offers, I believe this will create some sort of a domino effect.

I know of my blocks, but for me knowing has been far from enough to overcome them, hence we have subliminals.

(Don't mean to derail but had to give my input).

I think I'm getting hold of what's holding me down subconsciously, but I don't wanna write about it just yet. Suffice to say I'm trying my best to hold onto the past as much as possible for some reason. And "random" event during Valentines proved that to me beyond any doubt. The thing is that I don't believe in coincidences and the are way too many strange and uncertain event for me to disregard. I might prepare a huge post (more like an essay) one week in new version of DMSI. For now I will indulge them for some time because if I suppress them I won't be able to learn more about them. And I admit there is some bittersweet beauty to the feeling.

Tip for those curious for whatever reason: check my first journal, the LTU one, for clues

I'm not sure why, but I start to have very good feeling about new version of DMSI, especially this whole sniper thing. But hey, maybe it's just a feeling...

Truth be told something in me is cracking the old believes and I'm almost certain that I will cooperate with DMSI 3.1 much better than 3.0.1. We'll see how it goes but I feel like I will really need to stonewall this one hard not to get anything.

I'd like to think 3.1 is much harder to resist, but I guess we shall see.

Pre-DMSI 3.1 update

With circa one week until new version of DMSI nad 4 weeks or so since I stopped listening to previous version I thought I will post my last update before the release. I cannot wait for the new version for several reasons.

Firstly I finally feel like I've dealt with most of my emotional issues. Maybe it's just lack of healing subs in a while and my problems just creeped deeper but my depression seems to slowly go away and hopefully I will go back to my stable self from a year ago in no time. To be honest I'm getting sick and tired of my recent failures and self-pity and while I still slowly recover I'm curious if DMSI will speed the process.

Secondly spring is coming and it's always has been magical time of year for me. With longer and warmer days I truly expect myself to get better and more motivated, with or without subs.

And lastly I'm curious how this break will affect my response to the DMSI. I've never been on such a long break since I started running Shannon's subs so I have no idea how this restart will work. I guess it's gonna be an interesting case study.

I think I might have attracted girlfriend material into my life. There are simply too many coincidences with my current situation right now to ignore it. I met her on Thursday and again yesterday. She's extremely pretty, ass and tits are OK but she well compensates this with her eyes and lips. She also shy and so I didn't notice many IoIs with her (other than her laughing on every stupid joke I made) but maybe she wouldn't let much out as we were never alone. Because of that and our mutual friend (he is her flatmate) one night stand is out (too much drama), but I will ask my friend everything about her and maybe ask her out soon-ish.

The only thing stopping me right now (except for excuses like it's too cold and I'd rather wait for spring so we can take walks in the parks) is that if I will ask her out and she'll accept whole arrays of dramas might arise connected to that friend of mine - I've experienced enough of it with my ex. So basically if I enter the train there will be no easy going out.

Day 1

I'm not sure what is happening, but while listening to DMSI 3.1 my balls feel like a beacon. Seriously, I was playing around with sending energies through chakras before and I did get similar effect with previous versions, but this is like 10 time stronger.