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Quote:"Perfect", as it is used in the attraction subs, uses three different sources for definition. First there is the conscious mind. Then there is the subconscious mind. Finally, and most importantly, there is the superconscious mind.

The superconscious mind is the primary caller here because it sees beyond "you". It sees all of what's going on, behind the scenes, and can see the threads of everyones lives intermingling all the time. It's through this that we get results from the attraction subs, because basically what they do is say, "Hey, subconscious, I want XYZ. and I want you to achieve it like this." Well, the subconscious by itself can't do that... but it has access to the superconscious, which can. So, off it goes, passing the request along, and the superconscious finds the right person's "life thread" and then works to weave yours and theirs together.

What makes them perfect is that they are exactly what you want and need, and they will not be damaged by the attraction, nor will you. Sometimes, what we consciously want isn't what we really want though, so I don't give the conscious mind it's way fully. It's ideas are used and considered, but they are outvoted by the "wiser" parts that can see what's best, when necessary.

Thanks a lot. I only ask because I've been having a weird experience recently where this one particular girl is turning up in my life more and more frequently. And she fits my definition of perfect, in both terms of looks and personality. It's hard to say how accurate my conscious definition of 'perfect' is but she's a definite match as far as I can tell from the little interaction I've had with her. I am, off course, not using any manifestation programs. I've talked to her on a few occasions and the first time I met her she was squashed up right against me, it's like she's always just 'there' whenever I go out at a weekend she just appears (and I go to different places)

Quote:And all of you guys are noticing that this has come to be after using the Alpha set for a month or more?

I'm much more motivated. The volume of reading I get through is greater, I exercise a lot harder, and I strive to improve in other areas where I want to improve.
Quote:And all of you guys are noticing that this has come to be after using the Alpha set for a month or more?

What happened was that during about the third or fourth stage, I became less motivated to do things that I didn't want to do based on a fear based mentality of a negative outcome. While that's a positive thing, it did cause me to be lazier than I was. What I did was shift gears and become motivated by a different reason and that's out of self respect and vigilance. As it stands now, I'm more motivated than ever before (especially when it comes to working out) AND it's not based in fear anymore, it's based in self respect. It's like a horseshoe, you have to go to the bottom before you can get to the top of the other side.
(03-28-2011, 09:27 AM)AwesomeYoungDude Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-26-2011, 05:37 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-26-2011, 07:20 AM)AwesomeYoungDude Wrote: [ -> ]Can someone point me to the description of AM11 stages.

Shannon, I see a pattern in the AM11 posts. A major bout of resistance, depression in stage 2. Stage 3 is anger and rage. Is this part of the programming or just a reaction that some are seeing. Does stage 2 break the listener down emotionally, like a military boot camp. Does stage 3 start with the anger thing so that we don't take crap anymore. LOL it would be funny to find out that stage 2 has the following "I will revert back to the insecurities of my youth", and stage 3 has "I will be angry at the world.

So the question is, "Is this all just part of the plan", and if so can you explain why and what the purpose is. Seeing the purpose helps to define what the end goal is.

What I see is that Stage 2 is where the alpha programming starts, and the user begins being faced with new ideas that conflict with current ones. This produces resistance in some people, but not everyone. In Stage 2, you also start seeing the reaction against the way people have been treating the user of the program as the new programming takes effect.

Stage 3 makes this full on, and there is an equilibrium exchange of sorts that takes place. The previous programming, perceptions and fears are faced with a growing demand for respect and refusal to be treated poorly or walked on. Eventually this causes pressure as the two cannot be enacted at the same time. When the new programming takes over, the pressure is released because the person forces a shift externally. They no longer put up with being treated poorly, etc. But while this shift is taking place, there can be some irritation and even anger.

The way you word it, it seems much worse than it actually is. Anger and rage? Anger at being treated like a doormat, sure, but rage isn't realistic. It doesn't take long to get people to stop treating you poorly when you put them in their place with a little bit of expressed anger.

Stage 2 is where the alpha programming really gets serious in the beginning. That's why it makes people feel insecure sometimes, because they are constantly being pushed forward out of their comfort zone. Stage 3 causes a clash between "what has been" and "what should be", and eventually the dissonance produces the upset that causes "what should be" to become "what is".

This should explain the why of it all. People are creatures of habit, and they tend to get comfortable and stop moving. The first sections of this program are bombarding you with a new reality that doesn't fit with that old comfortable reality, and that produces friction, which the program then uses to make the new reality show up.

That helps, rage is an incorrect description. It can denote violent and uncontrolled physical force which should never occur.

Irritation is correct. I could also call it frustration. I've been thinking about your wording of "expressed anger".

Typical interaction between subordinante beta employees and superiors generally goes like this:
A beta finds something irritating and either (1) says nothing re-affirming he is a beta, (2) talks behind the bosses back, backstabbing, (a major no no in my book), or (3) yells at his boss. The problem is that the boss still sees the beta as a beta because the beta being a beta acts like a beta, because he is a beta, not an alpha. So the boss continues to treat the beta as who the beta is a beta. In time the frustration level of the beta increases to higher levels of anger which can lead to a rash decision, "if the company doesn't listen to me I'll quit", "Ok mister boss man, if that's the way you want it I'll just fire off a flaming email addressed to the entire company regarding how inept you are","Ok if you don't like me, I'll just do what I have to and no more". These non-violent acts (a fit a rage) re-enforces in the beta's mind that he is still a beta. It also undermines, re-affirms the status of beta, with respect to his peers.

Now with alpha training, the interaction with the boss starts with the boss's assumption that he is interacting with a beta. The alpha stresses the irritation, expressed anger, with the bosses behavior. This is not uncontrolled anger, but a controlled interaction expressing a dis-satisfaction with the boss's current behavior. [alpha] "When you do the following, I.......". The talk is backed up by the alpha's behavior. If not on the first interaction, upon subsequent exchanges, the boss sees the alpha as an alpha.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Shannon, from the AM11 programming stand point what happens if I never express that anger. Example: I have an insecure boss and I'm working towards a better position with a different department. Engaging with the boss will result in undesirable consequences. My question is not how to handle the situation with the boss, but what occurs within the alpha training (my mind). I don't expect to blow a circuit because I don't express anger, but will this lessen the alpha programming. I would love to just quit my job every time I have a insecure boss, however, jobs are not like coats.

No, it won't lessen the programming unless you're in a situation which seriously degrades your self esteem. That would be something like living with your mother... having an idiot boss isn't going to degrade your self esteem, so what will happen is that there will be a higher degree of pressure because you haven't changed the outer circumstances to match the inner ones (yet). Great incentive to make a positive change though.
(03-28-2011, 10:12 AM)WildFlower Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:"Perfect", as it is used in the attraction subs, uses three different sources for definition. First there is the conscious mind. Then there is the subconscious mind. Finally, and most importantly, there is the superconscious mind.

The superconscious mind is the primary caller here because it sees beyond "you". It sees all of what's going on, behind the scenes, and can see the threads of everyones lives intermingling all the time. It's through this that we get results from the attraction subs, because basically what they do is say, "Hey, subconscious, I want XYZ. and I want you to achieve it like this." Well, the subconscious by itself can't do that... but it has access to the superconscious, which can. So, off it goes, passing the request along, and the superconscious finds the right person's "life thread" and then works to weave yours and theirs together.

What makes them perfect is that they are exactly what you want and need, and they will not be damaged by the attraction, nor will you. Sometimes, what we consciously want isn't what we really want though, so I don't give the conscious mind it's way fully. It's ideas are used and considered, but they are outvoted by the "wiser" parts that can see what's best, when necessary.

Thanks a lot. I only ask because I've been having a weird experience recently where this one particular girl is turning up in my life more and more frequently. And she fits my definition of perfect, in both terms of looks and personality. It's hard to say how accurate my conscious definition of 'perfect' is but she's a definite match as far as I can tell from the little interaction I've had with her. I am, off course, not using any manifestation programs. I've talked to her on a few occasions and the first time I met her she was squashed up right against me, it's like she's always just 'there' whenever I go out at a weekend she just appears (and I go to different places)

Quote:And all of you guys are noticing that this has come to be after using the Alpha set for a month or more?

I'm much more motivated. The volume of reading I get through is greater, I exercise a lot harder, and I strive to improve in other areas where I want to improve.

I don't know what you're using besides Alpha 2011, but... AM2011 is a hybrid, including Type D. It is a manifestation program. I just haven't yet revealed what it manifests... lol

Interesting that you are more motivated and others are less so. I suspect that the alpha set may be magnifying certain pre-existing tendencies...
(03-28-2011, 10:44 AM)Cortez Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:And all of you guys are noticing that this has come to be after using the Alpha set for a month or more?

What happened was that during about the third or fourth stage, I became less motivated to do things that I didn't want to do based on a fear based mentality of a negative outcome. While that's a positive thing, it did cause me to be lazier than I was. What I did was shift gears and become motivated by a different reason and that's out of self respect and vigilance. As it stands now, I'm more motivated than ever before (especially when it comes to working out) AND it's not based in fear anymore, it's based in self respect. It's like a horseshoe, you have to go to the bottom before you can get to the top of the other side.

There's nothing in the alpha set that can be causing a fear based mindset. It's all working against that. That may have been a last ditch resistance effort by your subconscious, which would make it a last gasp of resistance that could be accomplished in no other way than that... there have been a lot of cases I have seen in which people (not related to using mental programming of any kind) have expressed resistance through manifesting a negative trait that could then be associated with whatever was being resisted so that they had a reason to act on their desire to resist. Rationalizing the quitting... is it possible that was part of what happened for you?

If it was done out of fear, and fear is the last thing you should be getting from the alpha set, then it makes sense that at least it could be said that something in those stages triggered a subconscious fear in you and when you pushed through and faced it down, it was overcome.
Quote:I don't know what you're using besides Alpha 2011, but... AM2011 is a hybrid, including Type D. It is a manifestation program. I just haven't yet revealed what it manifests... lol

Nothing currently. I came of the back of Women Magnet, and went straight back onto Alpha Male with the Charisma sub, dropped the Charisma sub 32 days later. It's not so much that I see her a lot; it's the fact I'm so unnaturally drawn to her, and how, also, she always just appears whenever I'm expecting her. Alpha Male isn't intended to be manifesting this is it? I do believe I'm seeing some signs of manifestation though. A girl, a different girl, text me on Saturday morning, and the entirety of her message was, "You looked good last night WildFlower" I didn't look any different to usual. I'm aware that I'm holding myself differently, but the amount of compliments coming my way - unspecific compliments really - have shot up in the past 2 months.

Quote:Interesting that you are more motivated and others are less so. I suspect that the Alpha set may be magnifying certain pre-existing tendencies...

The previous Alpha set boosted my motivation to an all time high; it was one of the most notable effects of the set. I didn't think I came down from that high, not even a little bit, but now I'm back on the set I'm finding myself becoming even more and more motivated again. Either I became slightly, negligibly less motivated between now and the 6 months prior to re-starting the set or 2011 is boosting my motivation even higher. Whatever it is, it is impossible to deny that the Alpha Male set motivates me. I will say, however, that I'm only motivated in directions I want to be motivated in. I read the entirety of War & Peace in 2 and a half weeks; I put my heart and soul into every yoga, jog or gym session; I put a lot of effort and time into finding the perfect job; etc. I'm very motivated towards improving in the directions I want to improve; mind, body and soul. But could I self-motivate myself to become good at, I don't know, Chess for example? I don't think I could. Nothing against Chess, I'm just not passionate about it right now. Perhaps that is it? From reading K-trains posts for several years now though, it's very clear that doing well at school is a big, genuine passion of his so it's hard to say why the Alpha set has had this effect on him and others. Alpha makes me nonchalant but driven; calm and cool but still passionate.




(03-27-2011, 05:15 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-27-2011, 06:00 AM)hayabbott Wrote: [ -> ]I have a quick question for Shannon. I apologize if this question has already been answered previously and I simply missed it. I just got the upgrade for Ultra Success 4g and will start using it April 1st. What is the basic difference between a 3g and a 4g program? Is it primarily the script changes or is there some improvement in the sound technology that makes 4g more powerful than 3g?

4G has been explained, but I'll give it another go. Basically, 4G is a series of tweaks and improvements that were discovered over the course of the time between 2008 and the beginning of 2011. Taken together, they act as a huge boost and major change from previous methods because they are so effective for making the desired outcome happen, happen faster, overcoming resistance and so forth. There's never going to be a perfect subliminal that can "brainwash you" (force you to change), but this is about as powerful and complex as I can (and dare) make them.

The basic differences are primarily secret though, because they are changes to metascripting. That's the part of the script you don't see, because it is the part that focuses on the program, not what the program is supposed to make happen. But the effect is to cause the program to be accepted and acted upon much more readily, much more quickly, much more deeply and much more efficiently than before. It's kind of like maximum magnification.

Thanks for the quick reply. I knew it had to be more than just the script changes that you let us see. I am anxious to see the difference in results. BTW, I usually try to start a program on the first day of the month as it makes it easier for me to keep track of how long I have used it.

I guess combining a custom subliminal program with the 4g technology would really rock, although I realize you are not currently offering custom work.
(03-28-2011, 01:27 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]And all of you guys are noticing that this has come to be after using the alpha set for a month or more?

I did not write that correctly. I am not a lazy person by any means. I am a mild procrastinator. The real thing that Alpha is exemplifying, which is great, are my passions. I can be 100% and then some in areas that I find entertaining or interesting. On the other hand, for example, my composition one and English class. I have no desire in those, so I push it away. Similar to a magnet. If I do not like it, get that away or I will move. Luckily, I have enough discipline to get my act together and finish what is mandatory. Lately, I have put exuberant amounts of time in catching-up with my best friend over an internet game and sweating like a waterfall at my local gym. My ability to push myself is unreal. I usually max out on the Stair-master at 15-25 flights of stairs. Pathetic for me. I was so motivated one day I did 55. Next time I went 101 within 23 minutes. A couple of reasons why I should stop and jump ship did infect my mind. But ignoring that with a positive little angel on my shoulder took over lmao.

I am constantly setting new goals for myself. Which is nice. Improve my health. Stick out a class. Find some more hobbies. Increase my income. Stop putting junk in my body. And more.
@Wildflower: What the alpha set manifests, and where it is introduced in the set, is being kept secret so I can test how effective it is without getting placebo interference. I can usually see when placebo effects happen, but for this I need a "cleaner" environment, because it's harder to see by someone who isn't trained and experienced in seeing manifestation effects. I'll release that information in the future. Make note of this in your journal so you can go back and see what you think afterward.

@hayabbott: Custom and 4G is pretty incredible, depending on what it is customized to do. I am currently in the process of testing a new program on myself based on this concept. All signs point to that it is going to work, but we have a few more months to go probably before we will know for sure.

@Jeff: So basically we really don't know that the alpha set is really what's responsible for the lack of motivation, it sounds like to me. I have been working on figuring out a way to add motivation to the script, though.
I just don't understand how this could come to be though. I've been using the Alpah Set since the end of August (40 days per stage until now) and I haven't had this problem since beginning Stage 4. Although, I did use the Improve Your Grades subliminal for the Fall semester but still, this lack of motivation is crazy.

On the one hand, it's absolutely golden. Because I'm not as concerned or worried about things I'm able to handle dealing with social situations much easier. Not as many lingering thoughts, being able to joke around and play without feeling embarrased around women. But that's only one area, and as Wildflower stated, getting good grades is something I love, but procrastination has ALWAYS been a problem with me, except I've always found ways to get around it. Hell, I'm procrastinating right now. Tongue

Plus, I'm finding it hard to think of anything I genuinely have a passion for right now. Don't care much about video games, women are of course interesting but I still don't care to much about them, except the Perfect Lover sub. THAT is something I'm ALWAYS thinking about, so maybe sex is the only thing I have a passion for right now??? That seems unlikely, since I haven't gotten any lately.

On another note, Shannon, I've been meaning to talk to you about the "prepping" philosphy (I made it up). Basically what I've noticed with subliminals is that if you concentrate hard, or build up a big desire to use a subliminal before hand that the results tend to come MUCH faster as was the case for me with Laserlike Concentration and with AOS (the first time, the 2nd time was meh).
When it comes to motivation, the motivation is there for me, but what is not is the desire to actually go do something like my homework. Getting started for me is the hardest part, but I think that's only human nature and I'm not sure if the alpha set is responsible for such behavior.
Shannon, I have a friend that is intrigued by the Alpha Set... The problem is, he lives in Germany and speaks German though he does understand English extremely well. I'm wondering, do you think he'd have any issues with this program? I know he's tried the Aura of Sexiness before and he told me it did work on him. So what do you think?

Thanks,
Ryan
In regards to procrastination, there are articles in psychology today that says that self forgiveness plays an important role in reducing procrastination. Just google "procrastination self forgiveness" and it will pull up those articles. I really like the self forgiveness sub. It has other uses such as stress, coming to terms with your decisions, helping with resistance. I only use it on occasion sometimes along with stress relief.
(03-30-2011, 09:51 AM)jamboree Wrote: [ -> ]In regards to procrastination, there are articles in psychology today that says that self forgiveness plays an important role in reducing procrastination. Just google "procrastination self forgiveness" and it will pull up those articles. I really like the self forgiveness sub. It has other uses such as stress, coming to terms with your decisions, helping with resistance. I only use it on occasion sometimes along with stress relief.

I'd really like to use that sub too but I have so many others I need to use first and I'm not much of a multi-sub user lol. I think it tends to slow things down for me. But maybe I could it when I use the stop procrastination sub as a booster. From what you're saying they might go in hand in hand and work well together.