Subliminal Talk

i'm actually angry as hell at the hell you guys had to experience at such young ages. my childhood was a cakewalk in comparison.

Though we all have our own stories. Like sarge so eloquently said, the past doesn't define him. That should be the case with all of us. That should be THE rule.

Would you believe that I at one point entered a house to conduct a transaction only to find people with guns pointed at my face?

Would you believe that in 2013 I ran around a commercial airplane naked, in a delusional state of mind, woke up in the emergency room in another country where I should have had my head chopped off for having what I had?

A decade of a life driven by drugs, crime, teetering on the edge of death for most of that time. On paper, I don't look like someone you'd want to associate with. The reality is so much different. The past does not define me. The past is the past. I'm a completely different human being now. And although the stuff on paper still haunts me, I do not identify with that [eternity] of the past. I still take ownership of the past, acknowledge it, and move on. But it's not what defines me.

The difference between us is that you were a victim of baseless assault, and I am responsible for the consequences of my own actions. Regardless, we both had journeys through hell that brought about the desire to change bad enough to where we found subliminals. We now have, in our hands, the catalyst for growth.

You are not the same catman now that you were when that shit happened. You're not responsible for what happened to you when you were younger, but you ARE responsible for how you view the world because of it. You ARE responsible for YOUR resentment towards women, despite how validated you feel about having that resentment. That is in YOUR hands. Continuing to resent women, or allowing yourself to feed the toxic notion "Since I experienced something so extreme, I can't have the same ignorance is bliss attitude of her just saying no is the worst thing ever.". Sure, your experience has demonstrated otherwise, but your perception of reality is nobody's responsibility but your own. You can transmute your current worldview around women using mental alchemy, consciously, and be free from it. It's up to you. Please don't take this to mean that I'm discounting your experience, because I'm not.

You're not the only one with a shitty past. Neither are you the only one on the path to greatness. We all are. I stand by you and wish only the best for you.

It pisses me off for unable to say anything encouraging or productive.
Just letting you know, Catman, Sarge, Chaos, and Eternity, I'm thankful that I happened to read your writings.
We all have everything to get to where we've been heading to.

Fuck man.. that did bring up some stuff for me Catman, it explains alot and makes perfect sense all your fear.

I can identify with that due to things i've had happen, I don't feel like posting it here but i'll pm you.

Hey Chaos, I hear you man, my solution was likely to throw myself into the business world. To take charge of my financial issues, to become the man I always wanted to be, and knew I was capable of. I had initially, on some level likely the attitude of getting the hot girls seeing rich guys with them, and maybe even thoughts of "we'll see if I'm good enough for you NOW bitches!". But, when it was up close and personal, I discovered a lot of that was going on for the wrong reasons and seemed unhealthy and unsatisfying. Be that either the gold diggers themselves, or due to the guy's insecurity about not having all the hot girls around him and how others perceived him with "the image" etc. So that was illuminating. But, like you, I threw myself into something to development myself and become MORE, to rise up through life, so to speak. So...believe me...I hear you. I hear you big time.

Eternity, great post. I am frequently amazed by what people have inside them as well, when they'd look totally "normal". D.Ace, and Ben too, thanks a ton.

And all of you, just know I have zero intention of letting my past define me. If I did, I never would've been crazy enough to listen to a stream everyday to overcome it all, haha! I'm here to better myself, and put the past where it belongs, and become the man I've always knew I was capable of becoming, but got hamstrung by shit. Rest assured, I have zero intention of it defining me, that's why I'm here. That's why we're ALL here!

Now, I accidentally sparked a conversation in RT's journal. I didn't want to derail his journal. I will now post my reply to Shannon's post, I believe he has a few assertions about me unclear, about the girl who caused a big issue for me but is not the only problem, and taking one part of my post and maybe blowing it out of proportion. When in my exact next line in the same post I mentioned how I'm hopeful the sub can aid me in developing that abundance, in BECOMING it, meaning I'm actively going for it and seeking it. And that obviously this will likely be a process, given the extremes of it and my starting point, and that real life results will need to happen to spur it along at some point. I will elaborate now:

It isn't just about that one girl as I've said before, this has been a life time of not getting the sexual access I've craved. So, there's a huge precedent to try to overcome, that is frequently either misunderstood or minimised. I mean, we're talking a total female blackout of anything beyond a hug life long. If it was just ONE girl and one incident as my issue, I likely would've never needed subs, random success here and there would've balanced out the perspective and all would be fine. Maybe it set off a chain reaction of fear, which caused rejections and mistreatment, which created scarcity and resentment/anger, feelings of unworthiness, who knows. Never mind the culture's relentless conditioning of males to become "nice guys", which obviously didn't help my chances with women, which then had to be understood over a long period of time, info had to be sought which was impossible until the last several years online as this phenomenon became more documented, then learned from, others in similar spots to learn from etc. But, the rabbit hole is deeper than just one girl.

I understand the idea of abundance fully, and am wanting to achieve it, that was my point. Internalising it however, while wrestling with a life time of the direct opposite totally contradicting it, before it's reality or any signs of it becoming so, has been the struggle. I don't get how a person can say to themselves "there's no weeds", when the garden is overrun by weeds. If they go in and remove them, which I'm trying to do despite this idea that I'm doing nothing which I don't understand the origin of, and they succeed, THEN they can state "there's no weeds", because they aren't knowingly lying to themselves. So, it can work and be sustained over time.

Even you've said the same thing about ASC 5G, where it wasn't self-sustaining because it didn't deal with issues underneath to support the confidence, only a veneer on the surface of artificial confidence that wasn't permanent or stable over time as a result, and people reported feeling awkward or like they were insincere or not themselves, due to this feeling of duality or "this isn't me" or that it wasn't "real" due to that veneer, so it was getting this natural push back of sorts due to this duality. This is the exact same issue I've mentioned often, so it's weird I get flack for it is all I mean. I thought with that post about ASC that my words would be understood, but maybe communicating over the screen like this things can be lost or misunderstood somehow. But, just know, in a clear way, that those words you stated about ASC 5G's problems, feeling the conflict between where I'm at and where the sub ideally wants to move things, and being such extremes, is the EXACT thing I'm wrestling with here. I mean I catch so much shit for all this...when it seems to boil down to the clearing and healing not going deep enough perhaps. Who's to say this won't be solved with V3.2 even with your talk of increasing the clearing and healing range? Or a later one, my point is we seem to be saying the same kinds of things, but my words get framed as wrong. Or, aside from the clearing and healing not going deep enough, another possibility is this could be as simple an issue of the V1 DRB not being enough to get the job done, but V3 DRB in 3.2 will get me and others in a similar spot, over this feeling of being jammed in between two realities with ease. That's also possible as well.

I don't understand this "face your fears" thing. I'm doing just that, am I not? Listening to the sub, putting myself out there with women often, talking and flirting and meeting new ones as well as legions of existing ones, asking them out etc. I just haven't had positive results to show me things are actually different now yet. I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to do to qualify as "facing my fears", I felt I was doing so already for quite some time. I feel often people can say these vague concepts with no real meaning behind them. I'm far from doing nothing, or *expecting the world to change to me*. You've said that phrasing to Sarge often however...so I assume again you are confusing me with him, which people seem to do, I don't why. I'm simply using and evaluating the program for real life results, just like every other person that has fired it up.

And I have been happy without them for awhile now, and even believing that overall they don't seem to be worth all the time and effort and money I've invested in pursuit of them all the years, as I've written about in my journal often. There's nowhere near the need or interest as before when I started this program or earlier. But, when I write that, I get denigrated as "resisting" or "it's a reversal response", but in this instance you're saying it's a good thing now. Hard to keep up here...the framing of some of my experiences seem to go back and forth, between negative or positive, so it's hard to know if this is progress or not. I feel that since Swisston and I are deemed the "resisters", perceptions of our posts get coloured by that and even if we post something like this about me not caring as much anymore and seemingly not wanting to keep pushing for girls and wondering why or if it's as worth it to me to be so focused on them anymore, if it was anybody else it'd be viewed as progress, but for us "resisters" it's called "resistance" or "reversal response". No wonder both him and I often wonder if the program will ever work over time, you tend to internalise this "I'm broken" mentality, which I saw you post about recently, this thing can become cyclical perhaps. I think the perception over time can colour the updates, one of the reasons I toned down the updates, I wasn't sure if they'd be as useful anymore, and the last thing I wanted is to constantly report no change with girls as that's useless and a pity party nobody wants to read nor me post. In the end, real life results with the program can make all this vanish, we'll see what happens.

Just know, I'm hardly sitting idle, and I WANT to achieve abundance with women to get past all of this forever, but without getting encouragement from reality that I'm moving towards that in even a small way but consistent, it's hard to maintain a new belief in the face of the total opposite. It's like a plant with shallow roots, so to speak. Not quite able to survive on it's own, in spite of everything else around it hostile to it early on.

But what I feel is what I feel about the increased "IDGAF" thing and about me being content now about being single, it's noticeable to me. So I must be on the right path then despite the external vacillations about it being good or bad back and forth.

Still though, at some point, real life results will have to back up the new beliefs in order for them to strengthen. Hopefully in time that can happen. I've been doing, and will continue to, help DMSI along the way. NEVER have I sat and expected it to be a "magic pill" or whatever else. Not once ever. Just so that perception is clear once and for all for anyone reading, as in the past I've tired of that claim I don't know the origin of.

As more and more holes are plugged, hopefully it's a matter of time for us all.

All the best to you all!!

I like you catman.

You ever thought about trying anything blatantly batshit crazy just to see how it would go? Like shrooms, practicing magick, going to an orgy or sexclub, hitting on a girl and her mother at the same time, filling a bathtub full of milk laying in it or masturbating to my little pony porn? Maybe a couple of them at the same time?

Just thoughts. You're a good guy, but you certainly have lots of reasons for things. Good ones too, I might add.

But fuck reasons.

Or buttfuck reasons maybe.

(06-28-2017, 03:04 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Chaos, I hear you man, my solution was likely to throw myself into the business world. To take charge of my financial issues, to become the man I always wanted to be, and knew I was capable of. I had initially, on some level likely the attitude of getting the hot girls seeing rich guys with them, and maybe even thoughts of "we'll see if I'm good enough for you NOW bitches!". But, when it was up close and personal, I discovered a lot of that was going on for the wrong reasons and seemed unhealthy and unsatisfying. Be that either the gold diggers themselves, or due to the guy's insecurity about not having all the hot girls around him and how others perceived him with "the image" etc. So that was illuminating. But, like you, I threw myself into something to development myself and become MORE, to rise up through life, so to speak. So...believe me...I hear you. I hear you big time.

Eternity, great post. I am frequently amazed by what people have inside them as well, when they'd look totally "normal". D.Ace, and Ben too, thanks a ton.

And all of you, just know I have zero intention of letting my past define me. If I did, I never would've been crazy enough to listen to a stream everyday to overcome it all, haha! I'm here to better myself, and put the past where it belongs, and become the man I've always knew I was capable of becoming, but got hamstrung by shit. Rest assured, I have zero intention of it defining me, that's why I'm here. That's why we're ALL here!

Now, I accidentally sparked a conversation in RT's journal. I didn't want to derail his journal. I will now post my reply to Shannon's post, I believe he has a few assertions about me unclear, about the girl who caused a big issue for me but is not the only problem, and taking one part of my post and maybe blowing it out of proportion. When in my exact next line in the same post I mentioned how I'm hopeful the sub can aid me in developing that abundance, in BECOMING it, meaning I'm actively going for it and seeking it. And that obviously this will likely be a process, given the extremes of it and my starting point, and that real life results will need to happen to spur it along at some point. I will elaborate now:

It isn't just about that one girl as I've said before, this has been a life time of not getting the sexual access I've craved. So, there's a huge precedent to try to overcome, that is frequently either misunderstood or minimised. I mean, we're talking a total female blackout of anything beyond a hug life long. If it was just ONE girl and one incident as my issue, I likely would've never needed subs, random success here and there would've balanced out the perspective and all would be fine. Maybe it set off a chain reaction of fear, which caused rejections and mistreatment, which created scarcity and resentment/anger, feelings of unworthiness, who knows. Never mind the culture's relentless conditioning of males to become "nice guys", which obviously didn't help my chances with women, which then had to be understood over a long period of time, info had to be sought which was impossible until the last several years online as this phenomenon became more documented, then learned from, others in similar spots to learn from etc. But, the rabbit hole is deeper than just one girl.

I understand the idea of abundance fully, and am wanting to achieve it, that was my point. Internalising it however, while wrestling with a life time of the direct opposite totally contradicting it, before it's reality or any signs of it becoming so, has been the struggle. I don't get how a person can say to themselves "there's no weeds", when the garden is overrun by weeds. If they go in and remove them, which I'm trying to do despite this idea that I'm doing nothing which I don't understand the origin of, and they succeed, THEN they can state "there's no weeds", because they aren't knowingly lying to themselves. So, it can work and be sustained over time.

Even you've said the same thing about ASC 5G, where it wasn't self-sustaining because it didn't deal with issues underneath to support the confidence, only a veneer on the surface of artificial confidence that wasn't permanent or stable over time as a result, and people reported feeling awkward or like they were insincere or not themselves, due to this feeling of duality or "this isn't me" or that it wasn't "real" due to that veneer, so it was getting this natural push back of sorts due to this duality. This is the exact same issue I've mentioned often, so it's weird I get flack for it is all I mean. I thought with that post about ASC that my words would be understood, but maybe communicating over the screen like this things can be lost or misunderstood somehow. But, just know, in a clear way, that those words you stated about ASC 5G's problems, feeling the conflict between where I'm at and where the sub ideally wants to move things, and being such extremes, is the EXACT thing I'm wrestling with here. I mean I catch so much shit for all this...when it seems to boil down to the clearing and healing not going deep enough perhaps. Who's to say this won't be solved with V3.2 even with your talk of increasing the clearing and healing range? Or a later one, my point is we seem to be saying the same kinds of things, but my words get framed as wrong. Or, aside from the clearing and healing not going deep enough, another possibility is this could be as simple an issue of the V1 DRB not being enough to get the job done, but V3 DRB in 3.2 will get me and others in a similar spot, over this feeling of being jammed in between two realities with ease. That's also possible as well.

I don't understand this "face your fears" thing. I'm doing just that, am I not? Listening to the sub, putting myself out there with women often, talking and flirting and meeting new ones as well as legions of existing ones, asking them out etc. I just haven't had positive results to show me things are actually different now yet. I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to do to qualify as "facing my fears", I felt I was doing so already for quite some time. I feel often people can say these vague concepts with no real meaning behind them. I'm far from doing nothing, or *expecting the world to change to me*. You've said that phrasing to Sarge often however...so I assume again you are confusing me with him, which people seem to do, I don't why. I'm simply using and evaluating the program for real life results, just like every other person that has fired it up.

And I have been happy without them for awhile now, and even believing that overall they don't seem to be worth all the time and effort and money I've invested in pursuit of them all the years, as I've written about in my journal often. There's nowhere near the need or interest as before when I started this program or earlier. But, when I write that, I get denigrated as "resisting" or "it's a reversal response", but in this instance you're saying it's a good thing now. Hard to keep up here...the framing of some of my experiences seem to go back and forth, between negative or positive, so it's hard to know if this is progress or not. I feel that since Swisston and I are deemed the "resisters", perceptions of our posts get coloured by that and even if we post something like this about me not caring as much anymore and seemingly not wanting to keep pushing for girls and wondering why or if it's as worth it to me to be so focused on them anymore, if it was anybody else it'd be viewed as progress, but for us "resisters" it's called "resistance" or "reversal response". No wonder both him and I often wonder if the program will ever work over time, you tend to internalise this "I'm broken" mentality, which I saw you post about recently, this thing can become cyclical perhaps. I think the perception over time can colour the updates, one of the reasons I toned down the updates, I wasn't sure if they'd be as useful anymore, and the last thing I wanted is to constantly report no change with girls as that's useless and a pity party nobody wants to read nor me post. In the end, real life results with the program can make all this vanish, we'll see what happens.

Just know, I'm hardly sitting idle, and I WANT to achieve abundance with women to get past all of this forever, but without getting encouragement from reality that I'm moving towards that in even a small way but consistent, it's hard to maintain a new belief in the face of the total opposite. It's like a plant with shallow roots, so to speak. Not quite able to survive on it's own, in spite of everything else around it hostile to it early on.

But what I feel is what I feel about the increased "IDGAF" thing and about me being content now about being single, it's noticeable to me. So I must be on the right path then despite the external vacillations about it being good or bad back and forth.

Still though, at some point, real life results will have to back up the new beliefs in order for them to strengthen. Hopefully in time that can happen. I've been doing, and will continue to, help DMSI along the way. NEVER have I sat and expected it to be a "magic pill" or whatever else. Not once ever. Just so that perception is clear once and for all for anyone reading, as in the past I've tired of that claim I don't know the origin of.

As more and more holes are plugged, hopefully it's a matter of time for us all.

All the best to you all!!

Did you read, internalize, and contemplate the post Shannon wrote, or just get mad and decide to defend yourself and justify all the reasons you're afraid of women?

That one woman created such fear in you, your subconscious created an immaterial thought prison in such a powerful way to "protect" you from women that it has literally created your lifelong female drought.

I'll leave it at that, as I'm sure Shannon will have a lot to say in response - in a more succinct and eloquent manner than I could.

Those are some fucked up life experience. I hope you're able to let all of that go and tread where you wanna be.

I said what I said for the millionth time, and you didn't get it for the millionth time. You gave up the same tired old excuses couched as "this is how I understand you", but I know you know what I am saying.

Your argument is: "I have to see it outside myself before I can internalize it."

My statement is: YOU are what you see being REFLECTED BACK TO YOU by what you perceive as "outside yourself".

When you look in the mirror, you don't wait for your reflection to smile before you do. You smile, and your reflection complies by smiling also. It's not "I'm going to believe no weeds into existence when there are no weeds by saying there are no weeds". It's "I now become and make myself the person who experiences a complete lack of weeds." and the weeds will find a way to disappear.

You have convenient and "logical" excuses for sitting there in that prison cell and avoiding the change that is coming, but you know what I'm saying, and you know that change is coming. Some how, some way, it's coming. You are outgrowing that cell you're sitting in.

You created that cell, and just as fast as you can blink, you can open it up and walk out, or even simply cause it to disappear entirely. You know that, and it scares the hell out of you. So you give up "reasons" that amount to, "No, I want things to work in ways I know they don't before I will change."

Sorry buddy, but as special a snowflake as you may be, this particular aspect of reality will never change for you: YOU ARE WHAT IS BEING REFLECTED BY WHAT YOU PERCEIVE TO BE THE WORLD OUTSIDE YOURSELF. And that means that as its creator, YOU must change for it to.

If you do not or will not "get it" at this point, I'll be glad to let you have your voluntary imprisonment while I try to help and be productive in different ways.

(06-28-2017, 09:13 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When you look in the mirror, you don't wait for your reflection to smile before you do. You smile, and your reflection complies by smiling also. It's not "I'm going to believe no weeds into existence when there are no weeds by saying there are no weeds". It's "I now become and make myself the person who experiences a complete lack of weeds." and the weeds will find a way to disappear.

While I personally jive with most of what you're saying, Shannon, I think using weeds as an analogy (which was originally brought up by CatMan) is flawed to begin with. "The weeds will find a way to disappear" assumes the weeds are capable of disappearing without outside intervention, which very many people experience as false. Weeds by their nature multiply without outside intervention, and it is almost always by outside intervention that they disappear.

"I now become and make myself the person who experiences a complete lack of weeds" is great, but for weeds to disappear one needs to take the appropriate and focused actions towards that end. I personally believe this is why people jump on CatMan - while CatMan is taking some action they (and sometimes I as well) believe he's not doing enough of the appropriate and focused actions towards that end and sometimes have trouble putting into words that sentiment.

CatMan, I believe you are taking action as you say and very likely others believe that as well, but it's the taking of appropriate and focused actions towards those ends that I and probably others as well are concerned about. Meeting new people and asking women out is fine and I feel is indeed a great direction to go in; it's the other stuff like intentional physical escalation and more sexual conversations and vibe on your end that we're likely suggesting and/or recommending you increase and do more of. This can be done without consciously seeing the abundance beforehand. Do the thing, and if you get a positive response great, and if not be like "ok" and shrug your shoulders and return to the convo with others or whatever you were doing before as if it's "no biggie." This is probably what Shannon means by the following:

Quote:YOU are what you see being REFLECTED BACK TO YOU by what you perceive as "outside yourself".

When you look in the mirror, you don't wait for your reflection to smile before you do. You smile, and your reflection complies by smiling also.

(06-28-2017, 10:44 AM)apollolux Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-28-2017, 09:13 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When you look in the mirror, you don't wait for your reflection to smile before you do. You smile, and your reflection complies by smiling also. It's not "I'm going to believe no weeds into existence when there are no weeds by saying there are no weeds". It's "I now become and make myself the person who experiences a complete lack of weeds." and the weeds will find a way to disappear.

While I personally jive with most of what you're saying, Shannon, I think using weeds as an analogy (which was originally brought up by CatMan) is flawed to begin with. "The weeds will find a way to disappear" assumes the weeds are capable of disappearing without outside intervention, which very many people experience as false. Weeds by their nature multiply without outside intervention, and it is almost always by outside intervention that they disappear.

You guys are hopeless. Let me spell this out for you.

Weeds in this analogy represent circumstances you don't want in your life. When you change such that those circumstances no longer fit, you will either find that they change automatically, or that you do something that results in their change. For example... refusing to let people take advantage of you anymore, moving to where the "weeds" are not, finding a way to make the people representing "weeds" dissociate, etc.

Quote:"I now become and make myself the person who experiences a complete lack of weeds" is great, but for weeds to disappear one needs to take the appropriate and focused actions towards that end. I personally believe this is why people jump on CatMan - while CatMan is taking some action they (and sometimes I as well) believe he's not doing enough of the appropriate and focused actions towards that end and sometimes have trouble putting into words that sentiment.

This is not a suggestion, mantra or affirmation we are dealing with. It is a core program and when you run it, it becomes your reality. When you run it, you automatically tune yourself to the reality in which it is true, and it becomes true, whether you had to act or not. That's what you guys aren't getting. Your outward reality automatically adjusts to reflect your inward beliefs. Any required action will be as normal and natural as breathing once it happens, although transitioning quickly may be noticeably challenging.

When you believe at your core that the world is full of women who are out to hurt you, steal from you, get you, you tune to the reality in which that becomes true so you can deal with it and the discomfort it creates until you understand that it is your beliefs that led to this reality, and you can change them, and thus yourself, your actions and choices, and the reality outside you as a result.

As above, so below; as within, so without. Literally, your reality is the result of your core beliefs. Until CatMan changes his limiting beliefs to something that is not limiting, he will stay where he is in his experience. And he is welcome by the universe to spend forever doing it if he so chooses.

Quote:CatMan, I believe you are taking action as you say and very likely others believe that as well, but it's the taking of appropriate and focused actions towards those ends that I and probably others as well are concerned about. Meeting new people and asking women out is fine and I feel is indeed a great direction to go in; it's the other stuff like intentional physical escalation and more sexual conversations and vibe on your end that we're likely suggesting and/or recommending you increase and do more of. This can be done without consciously seeing the abundance beforehand. Do the thing, and if you get a positive response great, and if not be like "ok" and shrug your shoulders and return to the convo with others or whatever you were doing before as if it's "no biggie." This is probably what Shannon means by the following:

Quote:YOU are what you see being REFLECTED BACK TO YOU by what you perceive as "outside yourself".

When you look in the mirror, you don't wait for your reflection to smile before you do. You smile, and your reflection complies by smiling also.

No, I am being absolutely literal here.

YOU are what you see being REFLECTED BACK TO YOU by what you perceive as "outside yourself".

When you expect everyone to be a crook and believe them to be crooks, you will only have crooks in your life because only crooks will not avoid you. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand?

Without breaking Rule #4, there is a relatively famous and popular book that states (quire rightly) that what you believe is what you are. And to extend that truth and wisdom, what you are is what you create for yourself. You create your reality with your beliefs. Your beliefs result in your choice and actions and what you naturally attract or repel.

YOU CREATE YOUR REALITY WITH YOUR CHOICE OF BELIEFS.

You choose to accept X as true, and then you make your decisions as if it is true, whether or not it actually is. This leads to you acting on those choices, and thus those beliefs, again as if it is true, and again whether or not it actually is. And by doing this, you project outwardly what you are attuned to, and the result is that what is likewise attuned will not be repelled, but everything else will. The result is that you have left (and attract) what is attuned to you, which is a reflection of what you do, and that is a reflection of what you choose, and that is a reflection of what you believe.

And what you believe is...

A CHOICE.

I can't spend time trying to get you guys to understand this. I have to work. But I am being as literal as possible. Take it at face value.

What you believe to be true is what you choose to believe to be true.
What you believe to be true is what results in your beliefs.
What you believe to believe is what results in your decisions.
What you decide results in your actions and reactions.
What you do and respond with is what results in your circumstances externally.

CatMan could have chosen to understand the situation in an entirely different frame of reference. Had he done so, he could have chosen to have a much different life than he has.

UNTIL HE DOES SO, HE WILL HAVE WHAT HE HAS, BECAUSE THE SOURCE OF CREATION FOR HIS REALITY IS HIM AND WHAT HE BELIEVES TO BE TRUE.

Which is currently... "All women are a threat, and untrustworthy, and I must therefore prevent myself from being vulnerable at all costs."

CatMan likes to argue that he "can't just believe something that isn't true". Well we exist in a universe in which all possible realities exist simultaneously. It already is true, in many of those realities, that DMSI has achieved its design goal for him, and he has lost his virginity and been having sex. But he chooses to focus in this reality still where he has not achieved that because he demands that the effect be the cause, and he does this because he knows it will never be the cause, so he remains where he is and "stays safe".

CatMan, I'm rooting for you, man, but the fact is, at this point, you have two choices.

1. You stay where you are.
2. You change to allow the new reality to be.

The only difference between them is what you choose to base your point of view on in terms of beliefs. If you let DMSI do it's thing... you'll have the new reality in short order. If you don't, you will have what you have for as long as that is what you choose to have.

And you will have, always and immediately, what you want most to have. That is why ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. Actions lead to outcomes. Your reality is your outcome. Your actions are the result of your decisions, which are the result of your beliefs.

Until you change your beliefs you will not change your outward reality.

I don't know how to put it any more simply or plainly.

Hope you guys understand. I have to go work now.

Well put Shannon.

Also a great reason to do weird and crazy shit. Develop a little consciousness malleability.

And besides... Who cares what is real if the reality you're living in is amazing?

DMSI V3.1-A

Day 118

A few days ago, I went back to 2 loops per day, after several days of 6 loops per day, I've been gradually stepping down to 2. It felt better, and more worthwhile at this point, to just chill out with it and go back to the normal 2 loops, and relax and let things happen in time. I'm dreaming often (including a dream about a girl recently I haven't seen in person for a few years but who is a beauty queen and another about Money Mayweather that was cool, lol), feeling good, so this must be the right amount for me now. I will continue at 2 loops until otherwise. I like the practicality to it, and the fact I'm no longer chained to my headphones daily, and that I'm continuing to get dreams, meaning it's still having tangible impact. Win-win!

I'm continuing to read The Rational Male, The Rational Male: Preventive Medicine, as well as another book I just finished earlier today. It's been highly recommended to me, Practical Female Psychology For The Practical Man. Originally, I was planning on rereading that 10 times as well as both RM books 10 times. But, some of the material overlaps, and I don't like how they completely excuse feminism for the damage it's caused both genders, especially men and masculinity and how women perceive us as a result of this feminisation of men, and relationships. We'll see if I decide to add it to the rotation or incorporate another book.

Overall, I feel at peace. I have a sense of indifference somewhat about women, I'm sure I do still "care", but it's greatly moderated now it seems, like they aren't the priority or necessity they once were as I've spoke of before. That can't be a bad thing. I feel with this, and added clearing and healing over time, I'm sure things will start happening for me, in a more flowing, natural, sustainable way. Instead of trying to force it through desperation or neediness like before perhaps. I mean, eventually, we certainly must hit a point where the clearing and healing is out of the way enough for the program to function well, it's just turning out to be a different point for each of us. I will continue burrowing into my mind with Version A in the meantime.

I've so enjoyed being reinforced by The Rational Male and The Rational Male: Preventive Medicine. KNOWING that many of my suspicions about things that I've watched play out in real life, despite the relentless agenda to blind me from it or shame me away from it, has really helped me feel better about myself and things in general. I feel a sense of control and agency thanks to those books. I can't recommend both books enough to ALL men. I'm sure it's just a matter of time, as long as I keep going with rereading the books, and doing loops and getting all the awful garbage in the past cleared and healed, and being out there regularly.

That's all for now, friends!

You've got to be kidding me. You go from what I recommended to an insane 21 loops a day and now you've dropped down to 2 because you have convinced yourself that "it feels good so it must be right".

What's actually going on is, first you were afraid it wasn't working and jumped to 21 loops. Then you became afraid that it was working, and dropped to 2. Meanwhile, both times you ignored my advice, which is doubtless no longer what the optimal number of loops should be for you. I won't bother going to the effort to calculate your optimal number of loops again. But I can tell you this...

You are effectively -- and predictably -- running away.

Huh?!

I'm getting dreams at this level, I feel good in general.

I'm not "running away" from anything I'd be quitting if that was the case...I'm self diagnosing the loops as you told all of us to do. And I decided to stop going for too many a day and just accept that the model's 2 loops is enough. And it has been.

Actually, it was doing jack shit different at 21 loops, hence why I dropped it down, didn't feel worth the huge pain in the ass each day to keep the ASRB going. I don't get it, you criticised me going so high, now you criticise when I cut down to what your models told us to do...I experimented as you instructed, and in the end I choose to run what you told us to...2 loops. It's feels more than enough now. It doesn't seem to make any difference whether it's 2 loops or 21, so it's far more practical and a better use of time to do 2, especially since that's the original number you gave us to run anyway.

I posted great things I'm experiencing at this level of loops now...and somehow it gets all perceived as negative? Weird. Sometimes I wonder why I bother posting.

Anyway, 2 loops feel solid and more than enough now. Hell, since we've been on this version for over four months now...seems likely to me 2 loops can do more now after removing who knows what in all of that length of time, than when I didn't feel anything at 2 loops at the start. It's worlds apart from before when I first started this version.

Believe what you will, I have zero reason to make up or lie about what I posted.