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You also have to be realistic game has its limits if you are a six you cant expect to bang 9 or tens regulary, sure you can get one or two during your life time if the combination is right you for example a psychopat and she an empath but not regulary, also if your girl is hotter than you she will cause you more trouble thats were it comes from that some say hot women are bitches if you are attractive as her by being a tall,ripped guy with right facial proportions (like me hehe) than it will be eaiser for you to come along with her pretty well
I saw some guys here that doesnt look so good and it doesnt wonder me they dont get bitches (not refering to catman dont know how he looks) but if you are small and ugly then running sm ten times wont change anything women will just pity you for your obsession with them i know many will disagree but all i see is guys who are more or less good looking get pussy on attraction subs,the other ones who get them despite looking not so good are fucking oder or less attractive women even if they claim in their iournals they are an 8 or 9
Dont fool yourself be realistic
So if shanon doesnt find a way to make huge physical changes there will always be poeple not getting results, love is mostly chemistry and hormones
Sure you can be a transcendend alpha and small and ugly or an alpha in your profession like Stephen Hawkins but will this make bitches go wild after you ? No sure you can say you prefer other things in life than weight lifting,fashion and partying and other superficial stuff but why do you want to fuck then fit and hot women that are exactly like this? Ha why not fucking the short ugly women with glasses short hair but who has a degree in physics etc i think i made my point
Sure you can fuck hot gold digging sluts for money if you are bald fat and rich but will she be attracted to you on a physical lvl probably not, she will cheat with the gardener or her yoga teacher
On the other hand we have guys like sarge and illumi who are good looking but who need to step up their game or need to become more of an asshole so you really need it all for the hot bitches
Just so long as you remember that you are expressing an opinion, Dzemoo, and not necessarily facts.
Yeah my opinion on my experienced and the experience of all poeple i ever knew backed up with real life results
By the way i do believe you are capable of creating subs that cause signifikant physical change, my face changed vastly since the last half year of dmsi and is keeping to change
(05-14-2017, 11:17 AM)Dzemoo Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah my opinion on my experienced and the experience of all poeple i ever knew backed up with real life results
Just because you can find 10 people that think like you does not mean your right, it just means that you found 10 people that think like you.
Not only that but this life is a shared experience with others, fractured by individual perspective. You are very assertive with your opinions and beliefs, but that doesn't mean you are right, it just means that you are assertive.
It might benefit you to learn the skill of perspective taking.
1. I dont need to find poeple that think like me in fact most disagree with me, i look at their results and what they have to back it up, since now i was always right and others just cheap talk
2. you are free to prove me wrong
3. this thread isnt about me
To Dzeemoo,
I believe you when you say you are very good at getting laid by the type of women that you prefer. I am curious to know however why you are using any sex related subliminal? If you are tall, good looking, muscularly built, and getting all your sexual needs and "fantasies" met, what else are you looking for by running the subs?
These are genuine questions in my mind. I am not trying to start a forum "war."
Thanks in advance.
(05-14-2017, 12:58 PM)WIP68 Wrote: [ -> ]To Dzeemoo,
I believe you when you say you are very good at getting laid by the type of women that you prefer. I am curious to know however why you are using any sex related subliminal? If you are tall, good looking, muscularly built, and getting all your sexual needs and "fantasies" met, what else are you looking for by running the subs?
These are genuine questions in my mind. I am not trying to start a forum "war."
Thanks in advance.
I wasnt good with women until started subs sure i got laid here and there and even approached but inner game was weak, like i said you need it all game + looks
I dont get why this is confusing,and by the way i didnt make all my fantasies true yet there is still some nasty shit i want to do not much but a few BDSM related extreme fetishes
When i am done with all that i will marry a hot virgin girl from my village and move on to other goals/subs
Also i dont consider myself very good at getting laid, i am just better than everybody i know personally, but its still not near enough, i fucked last year about 50-60 women, this year about 15-20 (hard to know as i dont count notches) , when you keep in mind that these were mostly one nicht stands, than i am having less often sex than someone in a committed relationship, but i dont envy them as sex with the same Person is very boring to me, i would be satisfied with one or two New girls every week if shanon could make that true with final dmsi or 6 g i would be grateful
The only guys i really envy are porn producers like Pierre woodman this guy fucked over 3600 sluts in the most miserable way and looks like a piece of crap
Hope answered your question
(05-13-2017, 11:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2017, 11:35 AM)mat422 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2017, 11:07 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2017, 10:20 AM)mat422 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-13-2017, 09:44 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]In my experience, it's a rare "hottie" that you encounter who is not those things. I've dated all types, and worked with all types. I'll take an average looking woman I can trust over a woman who is hellbent on making me miserable any day.
Maybe they know something you don't... indeed.
Well that's a little disappointing to hear, but I'll take your word for it. You do have the experience. Although admittedly I'm not sure I get what qualifies as a "hottie" vs average woman. I've seen some women people would describe as average, but I find very attractive.
You tend to learn to appreciate a woman for qualities that actually matter when you deal with all of them. The hot ones are being barraged with offers 24/7, and they are almost always being offered someone or something they could classify as "better than you". This usually results in what I call "BBD girls" (the ones who eternally chase after the bigger better deal)...
The ironic thing is, it's the guys who think only hot women are good enough who cause this phenomenon. They're the ones who barrage them with compliments, attention, ego stroking, let them get away with whatever, encourage/enable them to cheat, offer them options that remove consequences, etc. etc. etc. Basically they are enabling and teaching hot women to act the way they do.
It's all about the social status of having/***** a hot woman for those guys. Not the woman herself. Which results in not only all these options, but emotional and sometimes mental destruction of these women as a result.
Making them usually severely damaged emotionally and sometimes mentally.
The end result is that 9 times out of 10, if not more... you can't trust them. They have no concept of the value of an actual relationship. They end up being shallow, only interested in how big your dick/muscles/tires/engine/bank account is and what you can do for them. The moment you're not the bigger better deal... they're on to the next guy.
I don't care what other guys think of me or my girlfriend. I am self validating. But I do care if spending my time with my girlfriend results in me being happy or miserable.
In time and with enough awareness and experience, a smart man will choose his own happiness over validation from other guys or ***** "hot women" every time. Those who disagree... well, that just means they're either not aware enough yet or not experienced enough yet.
You can find a good woman who is hot, sure, but they're about as common as unicorns in my experience.
You are welcome to whatever floats your boat. I don't have time, energy or patience to waste on ***** and drama. I'll take being alone for the rest of my life over being miserable, suspicious of what my girlfriend is doing when I'm not around, etc. And if a woman who isn't perfect can offer me what makes me genuinely happy without turning me off physically... maybe that will work.
In the end, it boils down to what makes YOU genuinely happy. Spending all your time and money and energy chasing validation from other guys and "hot women" to get that validation... I have much better and more important things to do with my time.
I don't need validation OR women. I validate myself, and women are a part of my life and world at my pleasure. And it is my choice to be genuinely happy above all things.
You know I've long suspected this about hot women. But lack of experience has left me kind of blind to what goes on out there. I guess I was hoping that it was more along the lines of me being cynical and I'd be proven wrong in the future.
My experience is just that. It's not the end-all be-all. There may be women out there who would prove me wrong. Don't take my experience as the only thing there is. I am just one man.
To add to this, since I've been away a few days, beauty is in the eye-of-the-beholder. There are certainly qualities more valuable, when considering a LTR of any kind. Trust and loyalty are extremely important traits.
To help give some of you hope, I am one man that has experienced that The Total Package does truly exist. That being said, Ben - please rename my forum account to "Unicorn Rider."
(05-14-2017, 01:02 PM)Dzemoo Wrote: [ -> ]The only guys i really envy are porn producers like Pierre woodman this guy ***** over 3600 sluts in the most miserable way and looks like a piece of crap
So a guy that looks like a piece of crap has been with a lot of chicks. And you envy him, so the chicks must have been hot. Which would mean that a guy that looks like a piece of crap has banged 10s?
Just thinking out loud.
(05-14-2017, 02:29 PM)Blink Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2017, 01:02 PM)Dzemoo Wrote: [ -> ]The only guys i really envy are porn producers like Pierre woodman this guy ***** over 3600 sluts in the most miserable way and looks like a piece of crap
So a guy that looks like a piece of crap has been with a lot of chicks. And you envy him, so the chicks must have been hot. Which would mean that a guy that looks like a piece of crap has banged 10s?
Just thinking out loud.
For money yes, keep thinking
or do you think women in porn fuck out of charity lmao
Sometimes it feels like you are explaining things to kids here
(05-14-2017, 03:43 PM)Dzemoo Wrote: [ -> ]I am with catman on this, during this time you could have another am run
Figured I would reply here to this:
Hey Dzemoo!
I do often wonder what things would have been like if I just did AM6 a bunch of times instead of all the others. I know procrastination is a major problem for me, and have considered running that program OP4G often. It didn't do too much for me the first time around, but with maybe a longer run, something could happen. LTU is 5G and has procrastination stuff, maybe it's a good alternative for now. The business expansion I'm procrastinating on going through will make me a lot of money and change my life, although lately it's very slowly getting better, but not enough now, maybe more will be done for V3.2 on this. It's a serious life issue that needs to be handled. In my case, fixing THAT alone, will make me a fortune on top of everything and change my life more so, literally. ASC 5G I loved, it's confidence was insane I loved it. My first ever sub, I have missed that one. That's an option.
I mean, we get blinded by all the sex programs and all that "overblown hyperbole" about them, lol. I do sometimes feel ridiculous for being so focused on women, to use a sub like this, when so many guys I know do it on their own somehow. And wondering if this isn't just another form of extreme pedestilising females. And of course, after all the use, not having much to show for it all with them, anyway, doesn't make this any easier. I just know I've been very underwhelmed so far with this program and wonder if it's been a waste of time getting on board with the "new" stuff, and wondering if it will pan out. It's easy for those who were lucky enough to get executing early on to criticise people in my place, but if you spend money on this, use it for 10 months religiously, still am trying to see any real life traction with it with women, you'd feel differently, if not have long since quit it and viewed it as BS. Hopefully with new versions, it'll prove to be a good decision of time investment. If not, and it does get to the point where he cancels it and takes out the skeleton script and moves on, I will stop running these attraction programs until there are enough massively obvious, clearly successful, in line with the sales page reviews, all over the forum. And stick to AM/BASE/BAMM/Productivity type stuff in the meantime.
Why not running b for a time i see my productivity drop every time when running a because it makes me chill
If dmsi ist doing anything for you right now it wouldnt change things anyway
I ran Version B awhile ago to test for Shannon. Ran V3.1-B for a week, then went back to Version A.
I've heard things about it, how brutal it can be etc. but I didn't feel any real difference. I think I had a few head aches, but I can get those on this one too. At least, it didn't rip me apart as they say, lol. Maybe I am not ready for it, but I figure if that is the case, I would've felt real bad things or something. I don't know, it seemed a bit uneventful for me. Which was a disappointment to me again in a sense...as I was hoping it WOULD do those things to me, at least then I could see it can do something big for me. Back to A Now, maybe later versions will break through. But, I'm not the only one to still be looking for clear external signs, of course.
I will say though, that exhaustion is one thing that still happens in spurts. Like yesterday, I slept for 12 hours, after barely being awake for 12 hours beforehand. And doing nothing straining to me that day, so hardly should be exhausted in a normal sense. So, as usual for me on this, SOMETHING is going on on some level. But it never seems to translate to clear results with women around me, which gets very frustrating, especially given the length of time on this. That's what causes the doubt in the program when it pops up.
Why not doing more loops like 5 as shanon told this one guy to try out