Subliminal Talk

Thank you for that.

On the one hand, I'm humbled by so many responses when I make a post. I read every one and I find it amazing so many people take time out of their day to write things to me. This forum is unlike any other I've been to. Other times I wonder if it's "my" thread about my sub experience anymore as it changes to a chatterbox thread. Or an argument between two other people about something that may or may not have to do with me even indirectly, lol. But, I respect that others have opinions on things, or see something I don't. So I continue to post, and try to remember I am part of a community here, not a one man island.

There are times I feel shame for being a virgin still for sure, or feeling bad about myself about it, or just loneliness. I guess that's natural, it tends to spark up more around my birthday, or Christmas, or Valentine's Day, that type of thing. Seeing all the guys I know with their girlfriends or spouses, many times even kids, can start the comparing game "Why am I different?" stuff. I'm not in denial about the fact that it is abnormal to be a virgin by my age. But the fact that the 3 women who have known about it, have been shocked to hear it and never seemed to fully believe it means I may not be too far gone, lol. It's probably that some serious clearing and healing of my awful past needs to be done, and/or mixed with new beliefs far removed from that reality. Then I can finally be able to release the death grip it's had on me and my sex life.

We'll see if DMSI can do that in time.

I thought it'd be better to post this in my journal, as to not derail Ben's. Also, it gives some commentary from my perspective on DMSI, so it's probably more relevant in my journal after adding all of that.

(03-12-2017, 02:51 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Definitely a battle going on in Ben.

Right? I'm amazed. Maxx is posting in a very similar way too, both talking about doing other stuff other than subs, and thinking of washing their hands of it, or setting time limits for it to work. Despite the sub being even stronger than before by over a two fold margin (I think like 240-250 percent minimum, up to like 370 if I recall the post correctly?) etc. Eerie how similar the posts are. Maxx and Ben have had my back in dark times, so I'm happy to return the favour by posting this so they can see it from an outside perspective. Resist the dark side! Don't quit, don't let your mind trick you, you guys got this. It'll pass.

I remember the words: "1. Execute, 2. Stonewall, 3. Run Away.". Words to that effect. Also that V3.1 would be for the people who REALLY want this goal after all, and are willing for the sub to change their life around as much as necessary to make it work. Maybe in the end, some aren't truly FOR that after all, and that's okay. At least they will then know what their true priorities are. I know I for one have thought often about just how MUCH "change" we're talking about and feeling a bit of concern about that. I had images of me getting sleeve tattoos and becoming a loudmouthed roided up douchebag, as I've watched girls line up for that so I was worried my mind would gravitate to that to execute the script, LOL. Honestly concerns me. But regardless, I admit big changes need to be made as so far I haven't gotten the job done, clearly change is needed, so overall I welcome that change.

Interesting. Seems like that stuff is already burbling to the surface for many.

I do get frustrated at times. But then I realise that this program is constantly upgraded (NO HYPE SHANNON, LOL). As well as it dealing with the exact issues I came here for a long time ago. And that even E2 is a big step down in power now and deals with a very wide scope comparatively so it would likely take far longer to get down to the issues I "want" to prioritise. After all that, my decision is easier than most to stick with it. I suppose worst case, as long as Swisston and I stick with this program to help you develop it, as "worst case scenarios", it should be stellar for other guys when they come back for the final version. In fact, I've advised guys to do just that, as then they get to use proven subs while we help build the experimental, and come back and enjoy it when it's also proven, win-win for them. But the siren's song of DMSI is irresistible (see what I did there? lol), that is, until resistance strikes .

But, just to hedge my bets...I'm going to stockpile some Ed Hardy and Tapout and Affliction T-Shirts and all the seasons of Jersey Shore on Blu-Ray, and also just in case...

My homework:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKKUg08ytWw

Jersey Shore on Blue-Ray..? How decadent.

I agree with your sentiment, CatMan. As girl-stuff in general is something I feel I need to fix, I will keep at it with DMSI until and as such, as I believe that working with the program is the fastest and most efficient way of doing just that. And with each new iteration, the program is becoming more and more efficient at blowing away all excuses. This can be trippy! Especially when "the reason why" starts hitting you in the face with a cudgel.

I just read the first and last parts might read the rest later.
I just want to say that, sometimes women feel like this too.
You know that whole that men seem "above" us too good for us, hard for us to attract, whatever. I know some guys think that women NEVER go through this, but some of us do.

I AM seeing some good things from the subs, but also I want to say, ok 2 years is a long time, but with this sub the thread starts with, dude, you've done it for 5 days!

I read about the hooker suggestion.

I wouldn't want to do that either. Simply because I want anyone I have sex with to be really attracted to me. Not PAID to fake it. Even though there have been dry spells at times, I think I'd rather never have sex again than have sex with a guy who wasn't into me. Even if by into me it was only this strong lust as in ooh she's hot I want to have sex with HER. But not just eh, she'll do. No thanks! But that's just my personal views on the matter. I don't judge people who have sex with hookers.

Not all of us look like goddesses either. I'm curvy, I've never had an athletic body either. I probably never will at this stage. Some guys like my curves, but I hardly look like a gym bunny and I probably never will. We don't all look like that. Just like we don't all have massive boobs and blonde hair!

I get called hot or beautiful sometimes by online guys, but I am a woman next door type, we don't all look like supermodels. Oh BOY do I WISH I DID. But I'm a petite, curvy, brunette MILF (with no kids, by personal choice) who ranges between a C cup and a D cup and I'm coming to accept that, that that's OK. But we don't all look like actresses and porno stars.

I've also known women going through what you are going through.

But, well I don't really know what to say except i hope things turn around for you.

But please don't think every single woman just snaps her fingers and gets whatever guy she wants, we DON'T.

And a lot of women, including me, also have a lot of guys who ONLY want to have sex with us when we want to have a relationship, so that's a real issue for some of us. I guess it's hard for guys to identify with that who haven't had and really really want sex.

I don't really have much to say just I hope things get better for you OP. That is all. (((hugs)))

If I'm not misstaken, the sub is instructing each users own subconcious (as I understand it - the pretty much ONLY entity that has the "blueprint" for each users own individual success in such matters) to execute the changes needed to reach the goals of the program. So, IF full sleeve tats and general douchebaggery are my best ways for reaching the goals, I guess I'd have to go for mayan theme sleeves and brush up on some Jersey shore...

However, I doubt that will happend. The program, as I understand it, is about making us "deluxe" - starting out from each users foundation, accentuating the good, building from that, rather than tearing it all down and changing who we are on a fundamental level. Keep going, CatMan. You'll get there, tattooless and nice

DMSI V3.1-A: Day 15

-I feel pretty much no exhaustion, only have had a couple random spurts of massive exhaustion, that go away after 30 minutes max. One of those last night, first one maybe very early on in the run? I don't recall exactly. Otherwise, very smooth sailing on this front for me, thankfully.

-After the first few nights, I now never remember dreams. At all. In any way.

-Both of those combined have actually at times made me wonder if I am listening to the sub at a loud enough level, as for a week now or more I've lowered the volume. Or if something is wrong with my setup, even though I use Frequensee every time before doing my loops. I'm currently listening to hybrid as usual, headphones, at -30db ultrasonic, -50db masked. Before the volume change, the masked was up maybe 10 decibels to -40db.

-I seem to be either more disinterested, or girls are just taken off their pedestal. I'm not sure which.

-I still have this constant feeling of "blankness", or "detached numbness". I don't dislike it, don't get me wrong. It's just a foreign feeling I'm not used to, that this version is causing. It's peaceful. Also, feeling a form of relaxed contentment and quiet confidence in myself and things.

-I've been talking back and forth with the girl I spoke of earlier in posts. 2-3 times in the past couple weeks by text, no big deal. I am far less involved, she's one I probably was overinterested in long ago. Now, I feel far different. She, and others, are nowhere near the massive deal they used to be. Again, I don't know if this is the girls being taken off their pedestal, or just disinterest in pursuing and "making things happen". Overall, just far more chill and detached and letting them show more to me before getting all nervous or invested so early and just turning them off and ruining things.

-I seem smoother or more calm and self assured when talking to girls I find attractive. I'll put this to the test in person when out at my next social gathering.

-Haven't been around females in person that I'd like to see DMSI work on for a couple weeks now. But, unlike other times I'd miss outings and not see all the girls and get mad or depressed about it, it doesn't really bother me now to be honest. I mean of course I'd prefer to see them, but it isn't such a huge crushing thing if it doesn't happen. I might finally be able to this weekend, we will see. It hasn't been possible yet, other than when I first started V3.1 and was only a few days in.

-Been able to be more productive, and not procrastinate. I'm glad for this. Taking care of silly small things I've let lapse for a long time. Things that will benefit me and/or make me a lot of money, have been left to the side for a long time for unknown reasons. I've seemed to actively avoid doing them for very long periods of time. Lately, on this, I seem more able to actively force progress on those things. This I'm relieved about. I will try to keep the pressure on here in particular.

-Overall, I'm not sure what this version is doing to me in totality yet. I feel "something" it seems, but to me the real test is how it works on girls in reality and if they show clear signs of "something". Not just believed internal effects. So we will see when I get in front of females I am interested in, in person. Then things can be evaluated more. Hopefully I'll be free this weekend so I can get a look at where things are at.

If I remember something else I'll post.

That's it for now.

Seems DMSI is helping to get rid of your neediness, so I'd guess we can say that DMSI has started to make changes for you now!

(03-15-2017, 06:50 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]-I still have this constant feeling of "blankness", or "detached numbness". I don't dislike it, don't get me wrong. It's just a foreign feeling I'm not used to, that this version is causing. It's peaceful. Also, feeling a form of relaxed contentment and quiet confidence in myself and things.

I also feel at peace...
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-8544-p...#pid160991

(03-13-2017, 03:54 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]While on 3.0.1 I developed an IDGAF attitude. That attitude is gone.
Now on 3.1 it has shifted towards, "I'm okay with that." A more calming, less stressful attitude.

Desperation kills attraction. More options makes each option less valuable and important. The most attractive man is the man who has options. Women know who has options by who acts like they have options.

(03-16-2017, 05:38 AM)Blink Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-16-2017, 05:33 AM)eternity Wrote: [ -> ]There's a lot of clearing and healing going on! You're right. I have feelings Carman mentions all the time. Are women really worth all the pain I'm enduring? Is it REALLY that big of a deal that I will figuratively climb through hell, to come out on the other side and pat myself on the back for having laid women. Women aren't worth it. Nope.

For whatever reason, CatMan's having his nickname misspelled in the same exact way on this sub

Not sure if you did it on purpose, tho it doesn't look like it.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-4698-p...#pid161071

(03-16-2017, 06:09 AM)eternity Wrote: [ -> ]I mispelled his name on purpose, because he's now CarMan

(03-14-2017, 09:05 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-14-2017, 05:00 AM)kalmah0804 Wrote: [ -> ]Damn, thanks for keeping me in line with that post, Carman. Resistance was getting really bad for me. So bad, in fact, that I had actually switched to the AM6 refresher stage for the last 2 nights. Your post brought me back to dmsi, though.

I think due to two people doing this, there's only one logical explanation...

Shannon introduced a new module for V3.1:

TCABHHTMKIAB

Trolling CatMan's Ass Because He Has Trolled Me Karma Is A Bitch.

This module seems to have scripting to make people call me CarMan. Very clever choice, Shannon, as it gives plausible deniability: "Oh gee, it was a mistype, the r is right beside the t, sorry CarMan, err CatMan!". Thankfully, it seems most of you are resisting this programming, but two of you have apparently started executing the script.

Now Shannon's like:

Considering a name change possibly...as no lie that .gif Boss posted is fire...

It's being misunderstood. They should be calling you CarMax, but I guess I'll take what I can get.

From Catman to Carman... reality bending at work.

Quote:Shannon introduced a new module for V3.1:

TCABHHTMKIAB

Trolling CaRMan's Ass Because He Has Trolled Me Karma Is A Bitch.

This module seems to have scripting to make people call me CarMan. Very clever choice, Shannon, as it gives plausible deniability: "Oh gee, it was a mistype, the r is right beside the t, sorry CarMan, err CatMan!". Thankfully, it seems most of you are resisting this programming, but two of you have apparently started executing the script.

It's my favourite module so far, i'm really enjoying the effects of it. But I fixed the wording for you up there as you misspelt Carman.

I had no idea my phone's autocorrect would be the undoing of this thread :'(