I'm disappointed, Jake. You find excuses not to for the first two days you were supposed to, then choose to masturbate the first time out and try to blame it on the sub, and then you immediately find excuses to lower your loop count. I thought you were more interested in achieving the goals than that. Apparently you really don't want to achieve the goals, because this basically says that the moment you are faced with what would actually make progress, you pussy out.
(07-09-2018, 04:46 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I'm disappointed, Jake. You find excuses not to for the first two days you were supposed to, then choose to masturbate the first time out and try to blame it on the sub, and then you immediately find excuses to lower your loop count. I thought you were more interested in achieving the goals than that. Apparently you really don't want to achieve the goals, because this basically says that the moment you are faced with what would actually make progress, you pussy out.
Im not entirely sure what you mean. The excuses were genuine reasons for not being able to listen to the required 7loops that I want to.
Having travelled back to the UK, I will listen nightly but whether that is 7 loops or less i cannot control due to the lifestyle I have here.
When I am back in Europe then I hopefully can have a more disciplined and capable experience of 3.2 but I can only hope that what I do listen to during this vacation time is sufficient to make an impression on my subC to execute.
Yes in regards to masturbation, it occurred however when I had listened to 1 loop, I couldnt. I simply was unable to yet now I was able to without any stress. I have done nothing different then or now except listen to more loops through a mobile phone rather than through speakers.
I havent pussied out though, I have began listening but im realistic in understanding that I can only listen this way due to my lifestyle here and without the desire to influence other members of my family with 3.2. I also cannot agree that masturbation is me pussying out, since the desire and action to masturbate now was stronger than the 1 loop and this I cannot explain hence my disappointment.
I still however am holding faith that this is simply the initial stage of listening to 7 loops and that in time, perhaps in 30days time I will begin to see better execution as our friend Thor from Asgard seems to be having.
I am trying my friend.
I also should add that masturbating here at my family home in the UK is superbly more difficult than masturbating at my university apartment over in Europe where I live alone. Yet there I did not masturbate and the execution of the no-fap was effortless so why I have masturbated from 7 loops makes little sense to me but it is what it is for now.
Day 4
Tuesday 10th July
Lastnight I could not sleep due to the heat of summer we are experiencing in the uk.
I masturbated again. I had the desire, it was there and it was more than usual I guess so I masturbated and slept.
I listened to 7 loops - I hope - I say I hope because my phone fell to the floor but I do recall it continued to play so yes I do believe 7 loops was reached.
Other than this nothing else to report as yet.
As usual my sleep is disrupted somewhat due to minor jet lag and change of environment from Europe to UK thus this may affect the execution of 3.2 but more than this im trying to get used to listening to the noise of:
1) Noise of a cooling fan in my room that is loud
2) Noise of trickling stream playing from my phone near my pillow, louder than the noise of the fan.
Day 5
Wednesday 11 July 2018
Masturbated before listening.
Got woken up by family during the start of my 7th loop.
Im in a bad mood. Bad mood because trying to get 7 loops is not easy. I dont get 7-8hrs sleep at home at all, we sleep late wake early as you all know and listening to 7 loops is getting stressful as im trying to prioritise it.
nothing happening yet, no execution nothing instead im masturbating more than I usually do (1 a day).
Living alone in europe, I wasnt masturbating like this so no idea why this is the case.
Not happy!
Day 6
Thursday 12 July 2018
I seem to wake up by loop 6 and dont know why this is the case as im sat in bed waiting for an hour to pass (ie loop7 to finish) so that I can get up and on with my day.
I ate breakfast and relaxed before having a shower to go to see a consultant at hospital today. Before my shower I masturbated again.
I seem to have a desire to masturbate, or put another way my horniness seems to have gone up since I started 7 loops - is this normal? is this expected? has this happened to anyone else?
When I was rushing to the hospital, I was going to get late, my mood changed to frustration and anger yet I called and dealt with the problem effectively by speaking to many different departments to inform them of my late ETA, until someone was able to assist me.
Upon entering the hospital I didnt seem to have any anxiety, any worries, I seemed calm, in control and in power.
It is far far too naive and early to suggest this is DMSI, it could simply be my state at the time but I wanted to share it here for further and future analysis and attention.
Nothing to report otherwise as yet!
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EXTRA: At the hospital, it was just me and 1 female in the waiting room and she didnt once look at me.
I also went shopping, at the supermarkets (I went to 2) I saw many attractive females, yet none looked at me, however I also didnt seem to bothered - I seemed in a way unaffected or eager to win their attention.
Again still early days but mentioning all I can here as I remember it.
Hi Jake sorry to post on your thread, but what your noticing is same with me, can be in locations full of attractive women can sometimes start a short conversation with one or 2 sometimes but no looks or any interest from women, when do chat with someone they will talk for a couple minutes but dont want to hang around long.
Hopefully the aura in the next version will improve that for us that aernt getting interest from women so far.
(07-12-2018, 11:26 PM)josh84 Wrote: [ -> ]Hi Jake sorry to post on your thread, but what your noticing is same with me, can be in locations full of attractive women can sometimes start a short conversation with one or 2 sometimes but no looks or any interest from women, when do chat with someone they will talk for a couple minutes but dont want to hang around long.
Hopefully the aura in the next version will improve that for us that aernt getting interest from women so far.
Hey Josh, oh no, no apology needed bro, you and everyone are welcome and free to post as they wish on my thread. Its to help me and to help others that read it so its all good
Exactly, im getting no interest at all and im 1000% sure its all to do with looks, and those that say its little to do with looks are chatting shit!
We can make people interested in us to talk to us, we can make them laugh, we can really make them laugh but it always stays in the friend zone and nothing else.
There was days ago a fairly passionate debate/discussion that took place on Shannon's Discussion thread and it was whether PUA worked or didnt, or whether its a waste of time and money or not.
Im afraid i would have to say PUA works, because it helps those of us that are in the friend zone, that perhaps arent but have no idea how to make a female interested to know that there are many tools at our disposal that we have not considered since thinking outside the box isnt always easy and possible.
Day 7 - Friday 13th July 2018
Listened to 6.5 loops
Masturbated the night before listening.
Urge to masturbate is there and the horniness too.
Day 8 - Saturday 14th July 2018
Listened to 7 loops.
Masturbated before.
Summary:
1 loop via headphones stopped my need and urge to masturbate completely and suddenly.
It made me believe that I had stopped stonewalling and that I was now executing if only 1 sub goal - still a success.
Now listening to 7 loops via my s7 edge phone has resulted in me masturbating and feeling horny.
I have masturbated every single day which I havent done for many many months, even prior to ever listening to 3.2 (which is my 1st DMSI sub).
These are the facts as I am experiencing them at the moment.
I can only hope that I have not become a stonewaller but its early days to know for sure.
Day 9
Sun 15 July 2018
Listened to 6.5loops.
Masturbated again before listening.
No Dreams, or any change at all in any way.
Nothing to report.
Day 10
Monday 16 July 2018
Masturbated again before listening - basically got to bed didnt want to sleep, avoided sleeping early, wasnt tired and searched for some decent porn to smack that monkey to and boom masturbated and slept with 3.2
Listened to around 6 or 7 loops - cant remember.
Went to docs, sat and there were many females around and not a single looked at me.
Went out, to a few shops, many females around and nope nothing.
Also I know ill be going onto 3.3 and no TID either
Day 11 - Tues 17 July
Day 12 - Wednesday 18 July
Masturbated again - thats 18days straight of masturbation, a little odd :/
No change in anything.
Ive gone back to being a stonewaller with more loops how on earth is that possible?
Loops 6 or 7
(07-18-2018, 08:36 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 11 - Tues 17 July
Day 12 - Wednesday 18 July
Masturbated again - thats 18days straight of masturbation, a little odd :/
No change in anything.
Ive gone back to being a stonewaller with more loops how on earth is that possible?
Loops 6 or 7
The more you say the bold part consciously, the more you'll stonewall. Also, remember that Shannon said you have a conscious choice not to sabotage yourself. I got the urge last night to masturbate. I channeled this urge into something healthy and I went running. Try to do something that will keep you busy.
(07-18-2018, 09:43 AM)Tigerismyspirit Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018, 08:36 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Day 11 - Tues 17 July
Day 12 - Wednesday 18 July
Masturbated again - thats 18days straight of masturbation, a little odd :/
No change in anything.
Ive gone back to being a stonewaller with more loops how on earth is that possible?
Loops 6 or 7
The more you say the bold part consciously, the more you'll stonewall. Also, remember that Shannon said you have a conscious choice not to sabotage yourself. I got the urge last night to masturbate. I channeled this urge into something healthy and I went running. Try to do something that will keep you busy.
Hey Tigerismyspirit
Thanks for the advice it makes sense so I'll try buddy
Day 15
Saturday 21 July
1 day break was today.
I think I did masturbate upto this break.
I didn't masturbate on the day of the break because I had to go to a course today and also a full day again tomorrow so needed to be focused and asleep.
At the course there were 15 people. 12 women/girls and 3 guys including me.
I got on with all, a girl in particular. I made all laugh and her. I have a brilliantly awesome wit and sense of humour but did I get any interest or IOI - no
I got nothing at all from anyone there.
I don't seem to be executing squat since my loops increased even though at 1 loop not fapping was fucking easy especially as it wasn't even a goal of mine at all.
I know there may be a subliminal being made by Shannon which will be a combo of motivation and procrastination.
I originally joined this site to help me hit my goals which always falter and fail due to whims and obstacles and procrastination.
I would normally be super excited and super jacked about this sub and super willing to purchase it but if I'm not executing then unfortunately I guess I will have to wait for 3.3.
Any thoughts anyone would be helpful and appreciated please.
In mean time I'll start day 1 of another 14 days again which is the 2nd cycle.