Subliminal Talk

(03-30-2018, 04:10 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-29-2018, 10:47 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-29-2018, 04:17 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]From some of the things you're saying, anxiety and insecurity you may want to consider Version A since it's more gentle and for the healing. That's just the feeling I get from it, but in the end it's up to you.

I think he's listening to "A". Do remember him saying that he's downloading "A" or maybe it was just a dream xD

Haha ok cool. I thought I remembered something about him saying he would stay on B, but that was probably someone else.

That was me xD

(03-30-2018, 04:13 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]No you have to remember "Don't watch porn with your wife, BE porn with your wife".

Or make porno's with your wife

(03-30-2018, 04:10 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-29-2018, 10:47 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-29-2018, 04:17 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]From some of the things you're saying, anxiety and insecurity you may want to consider Version A since it's more gentle and for the healing. That's just the feeling I get from it, but in the end it's up to you.

I think he's listening to "A". Do remember him saying that he's downloading "A" or maybe it was just a dream xD

Haha ok cool. I thought I remembered something about him saying he would stay on B, but that was probably someone else.

No youre right bro, I was planning to stay on B but at the very last moment I changed my mind, based on the recent replies from Shannon and I understood them to be.

Saturday 31st March 2018 - (36-1.5A)
Time: 7.27am on the morning of Sunday 1st April
Listening to loop as I type this update.

So ive finally returned from the house party that fightgirl and our mutual friend invited me too.

They ended up inviting alot more people and had specially called me to come an 1.5hours before others to help out. I unfortunately got there late, 30mins before the party started haha but I helped alot.

The evening was great and fun, started at 8pm and well im now home so was there for around 10-11hours.

I am listening to the loop to not break the ASRB.

So the party yeah was fun.

I had a great time and the girl I liked alot, the Pots Girl was there as was my friend, her ex.

She loved my sense of humour alot and really enjoyed my company and our private jokes.

I guess looking back I could see that I was making all the effort or most of it. She did at one point come and sit by my feet/legs on the floor and chatted to me but I cant read into that.

I cant say for sure that I noticed any IOI or any attempts to be within my sphere/personal space etc.

Eventually all my humour wasnt enough and she eventually left with a female friend of hers that was there too and left a few hours after being there.

The party continued and then more people left. A few around 6 of us were left so we watched some boxing and then some movies.

Fightgirl saw I was sitting on a chair and asked me to come sit with her on the sofa if I wanted. I declined but then later on decided it would be alot more comfier so sat with her.

She got very comfy and put her head on my arm and then snuggled up with me.

I got home and then fight girl messaged me and so we got chatting on the phone about the party and the people for around an hour before she started falling asleep and I left her to it.

I cannot say as yet that beyond fapping anything has changed. I am a little more confident but thats my trust in DMSI helping me but nothing is seen or noticed.

I can also say that yes when potgirl came to the party, I did get more anxious because suddenly I was sweating alot more and realised I needed to dry my face and calm the fuck down. Eventually I did.

I also know I MUST get into shape asap to give me a chance to be liked by girls.

I know 3.2 will work at getting girls to approach us and work for our attention, and I know that im using 3.2 mostly for the clearing, healing and execution or non-stonewalling proof.

So even though girls werent and havent been my focus, its hard not to be a man and think about the girls I like of course.

I havent fapped still, and its now day 36 of no fapping.

Ammendum:
Snapchat girl:
she was there too and she didnt say hi to me directly when she came in which I realised was her nervousness but as the evening progressed she warmed to me even though she called her bf to come later as he had a laptop that we could connect to the tv.

At 1 point she said something about coming to mine to watch a show but I cant recall exactly yet I sensed it and I said yes definitely.

By the evening we got on alot but again its not clear if its more than a friend but im sure it is. Im realising more and more that until I get into shape (i cant do anything about my hair loss) I wont get girls, UNLESS 3.2 kicks in.

We got stuck in the lift, 4 of us and snapchat was 1 of the 4 and the other her bf. So she couldnt really be any more friendly than normal.

We got home and she messaged that she got home ok and I used that as a tool to say we should chill again soon and maybe watch a show together and she said Definitely.

Shes clearly a young niave and super protected girl that is very innocent so I doubt her interest is more than a friend, im fairly sure of it but still a shame.

anyway its now 7.44am as I type this and im waiting for the loop to finish and then ill go to sleep. thanks for reading.

Sunday 1st April 2018 - (37-1.6A)
Time: 9.29pm
Listening to loop as I type this update.

Woke late again but slept late too. Got around 6-7hrs sleep today.

No dreams.

Been chatting to fightgirl and so things cool there.

Definitely making more of an effort with PotsGirl, the one I do like and shes kind and polite to reply as well as enjoy my humour but then doesnt advance it once I stop it too. The chat has been about how she wouldnt be cool as me in a stopped lift and she said she would be cooler than me so I said its a challenge and she said yeah and I said right ill find a broken lift and then said come over to mine and lets break the lift. lol

Got a little flirty well im flirting and threw in some unintentional innuendos such as the breaking lift one above and then realised what was said so I made it apparent to her and joked about it as did she but also made it clear that Im standing by my words.

Still procrastinating, and still moving at a slow pace, which isnt something I always mention but will now.

Havent still fapped, 37days so far.

No idea if im executing anything else.

Was stuck in a lift at 4.30am with 3 others on my way home lastnight from the house party. Forgot to mention this. Wasnt stressed or anxious. Probably because had 3 others in the lift with me.

Snapchat girl is up for watching a show with me, she said either at her place where she has a laptop only or at mine where I explained i have a laptop and a tv. it'll be mine. She was up for coming over on tuesday before she flies home for easter but i have other plans so said after shes back and she was cool with that.

She has a bf and I dont think shes into in that way, I dont think any of the girls are. I dont think they see me as anything but a good loyal friend. Im not the dating type for them, even though they all love my wit and humour alot.

Nothing else to report unfortunately.

Any girl who still doesn’t know you that much and agrees to come to your place has thought about the possibility of sex. Not that she wants it, but it is in the back of her mind.just don’t cancel the possibility yourself. Let them at least do that!

Any girl who still doesn’t know you that much and agrees to come to your place has thought about the possibility of sex. Not that she wants it, but it is in the back of her mind.just don’t cancel the possibility yourself. Let them at least decide!

(04-01-2018, 01:46 PM)Light Wrote: [ -> ]Any girl who still doesn’t know you that much and agrees to come to your place has thought about the possibility of sex. Not that she wants it, but it is in the back of her mind.just don’t cancel the possibility yourself. Let them at least decide!

thanks for that bro, if its the case then awesome!!! ok ill let them decide and just be my self then.

Monday 2nd April 2018 - (38-1.7A)
Time: 11.32pm
Listening to loop as I type this update.

Tomorrow will be my 1 day ASRB break.

So far I havent fapped for 38days.

Today have felt less desire to check any of my various sites. I havent had the urge to check the pornsite, but I just did for 4secs to see if I got any messages. I think maybe the anti porn is kicking in but lets wait and see.

So anything happen?

Lastnight Fightgirl & mutual female friend who ill now called "MutualGirl" came by around midnight to drop off my pots and pans. They stayed until 6am. I was exhausted and wanted them to leave when they came but as usual we got social and chatted away.

During the chat, mutualgirl seemed to want to ask me stuff like who do I fancy at uni and this and that. I upto now have suspected that fightgirl likes me but shes always anti men and saying she hates men (BS) but anyway so I went with it and told mutualgirl I fancied her flatmate who is a 10...no lies!!

Anyway she gave me other names and I went with saying yes shes ok and she isnt etc.

Not once did she ask me about fightgirl though and by the evening I felt that maybe even though we really really get on she doesnt see me in that way.

FG is on her periods and so she gets moody cranky and angry. She left without hugging me whereas MG did. Not hugging me is very odd and rare. It was 6am she could have been really fucked up cos of the periods/menstrual cycle or also the 6am but maybe she was pissed off I said I fancied this girl or that girl, but fuck it right?

Anyway I was bothered that she was or had acted strangely as shes a good friend and we fought and lost touch for a year before as you all know. Anyway messaged MG earlier and she said na she was maybe annoyed I brought up our fight which she now wants to leave in the past but I brought it up simply as its something that happened, I dont give a fuck about it but she thinks I do cos I brought it up in conversation which makes me realise she cant handle it and wants to forget it.

MG said she will see how her housemate the "10" feels about me cos apparently she heard my voice once on the phone to MG and thought I sounded really good and ive 2 guy friends say this to me too. I also was told that 10 said she really liked me after we had met at a birthday part, the one that PotsGirl organised for her now ex. Today I made sure MG knew that she should name drop me to 10 and see what happens so ill pursue that slowly and in due course.

Yesterday during the whole day I had been messaging back and forth with PotsGirl, the girl I do like so today she replied with a friendly "hahahah " so I replied "lol" and left it at that.
Im not here to become her gay best friend, I do like her but ill focus on me and whenever I bump into her or we chat ill chat away but then bring to a close cos if she doesnt give me any clear IOIs then I cant be a chump and assume she likes me and then ruin the friendship. Thats happened so many times to me.

All this is the latest.

The only other thing is that for the past few days now if not 1 week im literally playing 1 or 2 tunes a day all day long. Im killing them by playing them. Today I played a tune only a few times. Ive got it playing away in my head.

Is this due to DMSI?

Addendum: My male friend came over today, and he reiterated that yes I have a nice voice and he finds it very calming soothing and relaxing. He also reiterated to me that I just need to lose my weight. If I lose my weight boom ill have an easier job with girls.

I dont know, cos I can chat to girls but they always go for pretty boys, or guys that are the opposite to how I am currently, which is slim, toned and with hair that isnt thinning. Hoping DMSI is executed more by me.

Extra Info: With track A, there is definately less of a tired sleepy feeling that I got with B.

Wed 4th April 2018 - (40-2.1A) - 2nd cycle, 1st Day
Time: 12.30am on Thurs 5th.
Listening to loop as I type this update.

Yesterday was my 1 day break.
Yesterday until today not heard from fightgirl. She's arrived back in UK for easter so chilling.
Was in contact with MG, and thats all cool as were just friends.

Yesterday I drank over 4.5litres of water. Its my first day of actually doing that. No uni made it easy.

I seem to be more and more into PotsGirl, as in I think about her alot and at times about '10' too.

I seem to be wanting to sort my image out more too. I have always wanted to but I can now during the 1-2weeks easter break actually get onto doing something about it asap.

I must sort my sleep out.

Yesterday I had only 4hrs sleep, I woke at 7am which is awesome and made sure I stayed awake all day but then PotsGirls ex came over and we chatted about everything, especially how they broke up and we chatted till 3am. No idea how I managed to stay awake even with just water and no caffeine.

The Ex is now with another girl, theyve kissed and hes seeing how it goes with her. I asked him 'hypothetically' how he would feel if I dated PotsGirl and he said he wouldnt be happy at all and maybe it would break our friendship. Bros before hoes, but she aint no hoe so lets hope DMSI make this happen.

Honestly I would love DMSI to help me with PotsGirl and with '10' - but can it??

I woke late today after sleeping around 4 or 5am. - no surprise right.

Today I got woken by my friend who went into lectures and found it wasnt on and that now uni is officially closed. So he came over, we talked and then we decided to watch a new movie at the cinema for 4.10pm.

I got into the shower and we got into the taxi. I was getting anxious cos the taxi driver was so fucking slow!!!! I was getting irate inside that we might get to the movie late. So no idea if anger management or stress relief has forgotten to kick in haha

So we got to the mall, and today I wasnt as self conscious about my looks or weight, but a little more relaxed.

I didnt get any IOIS except from a big beaming smile from our waitress at the restaurant we went to after the movie. The movie was awesome!! The meal was relaxed and cool, we were there for around 3-4hours I think and we had such a good time today.

I got home and was supposed to speak to my personal trainer to iron out some confusion around my macros but he has rescheduled now for tomorrow.

Pots girl
Well we have been chatting via whatsapp. Do you all use that, its a messaging app anyway.

She doesnt always carry the conversation, sometimes she does but usually shes laughing at my replies and then ill carry them on.

I noticed only when I challenge her does she then reply and against my cockiness. So if you had read you may recall that I challenged her to be more mentally stable than her in a situation where were in a lift/elevator and it gets stuck.

So ive been going back to that if and when I can. She replies to when i say something like 'oh well you aint gnna win' and shes as like "cos I will".

When I said 'we need to a find a broken lift now', she replies with "hahaha".

So I threw it back to her and said "nervous laughter I see"

and she I think said "haha you think thats nerves"

and i said " sure, I can live with that hahaha"

she "haha"

and she replies like a few times an hour as such rather than immediately and continuously.

So I replied "looks like I won lol"

and she "no you havent lol"


Anyway the point is, is this flirting or not?

any advice guys or thoughts?

My desire to go on any sex/swinging/porn/dating sites has reduced ALOT.

I may go on now once in the whole day and usually ive realised by talking to myself that its due to boredom.

My sex drive seems to have reduced or gone, because im not looking at porn or getting turned on if I do nor am I fapping.

Is this all DMSI? I mean sex drive kinda going down?

40days no fapping so far.


Addendum:
Everytime I post my post up I then remember something else to share.

Snapchat girl today replied to a text I sent her yesterday.
So replied too. I then asked her what shes upto and when shes going home for easter.
She said that shes at the airport right now.
She said shes returning back on 13th (I didnt ask her)
and then she said that when shes back we'll do some TV shows and food.
I obviously said awesome.

Point is I havent really thought about it, nor cared but she seems to have right?


Addendum2:
So at the restaurant I was speaking to my friend (male mate) about potsgirl. I asked him if he noticed anything about her behaviour at the houseparty last week.

To my surprise, he said he had and that she seemed to be a little more chatty than usual, a little more less reserved and more open that before.

I then told him in confidence that she and ex had broken up. I also told him I liked her.

He said that it now made sense that she was more chatty and confident. It was as if a shroud had been lifted from her.

He said it was clear that she and I get along however he also said that she could have been trying to make ex jealous, even though im a mutual friend.

He has said that my personality is amazing and my hair loss isnt even an issue. All a girl wants is a guy that can work and provide however in my case all I need to do is lose my weight and thats it.

Shannon answered my questions and here are the answers...

(04-04-2018, 03:59 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-04-2018, 01:58 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon good to see you back more.

1) Whats the current plan you have? I recall something about you having to make a custom sub (which I think may be released to us all) and then some focus fire subs and then not sure?

I'm going to be releasing Disconnect From Negative Stress shortly, if I can finish the damned thing, then release the experimental program, then build the custom, then probably DMSI 3.3. I'm not sure what I will do after the custom.

Quote:2) Any thoughts on when DMSI 3.3 may be released, are we looking at a 12 month ETA?

I'm not expecting it to be anywhere near 12 months. I don't know when it will be though.

Quote:3) Will 3.3 have any updated tech for those resisting and those not executing many points in the 3.2 sub, such as The Wall 2.0 perhaps?

I don't know what's going to change with regards to that yet.

Quote:4) who contacts you to make custom subs and how? I ask because if any of us want to request you to make a custom sub how and where can we do it?

Currently, that avenue is closed. I have a custom job contracted for and that is all for the foreseeable future. Custom work distracts me from running the business, so until everything else is done, I am taking 0 to very few custom jobs per year.

Quote:5) I remember when I first joined, at that time the guidelines were to test a sub for 32days however best to try it for 96days and then to assess if it has succeeded in its goals. Is that still the case with 3.2 and I ask because so far for me its 40days no fap and this is so far what I can categorically say has been executed. I just hope alot more will be too.

Better than nothing.

Quote:6) Oh and will 3.3 have the long range sniper in so we can think about the girls we dont always see daily yet want to have?

Don't know yet.

Quote:7) DMSI is designed only to get you laid, but can that lead to a relationship too if that is what we want?

thanks in advance as always buddy!

It's designed to make you so sexually attractive that they approach and try to have sex with you. Nothing stopping you from a relationship.

Thursday 5th April 2018 - (41-2.2A) - 2nd cycle, 2nd Day
Time: 2.45am on Friday 6th.
Listening to loop as I type this update.

No fap for 41 days

Desire to go on to adult sites reduced (swinger dating site or porn site and even facebook)

I may flash on there to see if I have any messages but overall desire had gone alot.

Desire for sex may have gone too but unsure.

I felt confidence yesterday at the restaurant. I didnt express this but i felt i walked at times as if I had a rhymth, a sway, an attitude and I was totally loving myself.

I came across videos that were about IOIs from girls as well as no fap benefits from Youtube and well confidence and hair growth as well as penis growth are some benefits from no fapping but no idea as yet if I ever got any IOIs from anyone including PotsGirl.

She hasnt messaged me at all today and I havent messaged her so im feeling that shes just not into me as I am into her

I have drank around 2-2.5Litres of water today then drank some tea and also coke zero.

I am sleeping very late and waking late which is a real shame.

I am going to see another friend tomorrow to play some pool and have some food so ill snapchat that which potsgirl is on but doubt she'll be in touch or want to find a way to contact me.

nothing more to report.

1 more thing, potsgirl I kinda left the communication open for her to contact me back. She hasnt. Just wanted to put that out there.

I really want to fix myself, I have 1 week now off from uni. I need to fix myself after I see my friend tomorrow, from sleep and other things.

Friday 6th April 2018 - (42-2.3A) - 2nd cycle, 3rd Day
Time: 5.12am on Saturday 7th.
Listening to loop as I type this update.

Yesterday forgot to mention this.
Went to the bank, as I came out I made eye contact with a girl (think she may have been a bank staff) anyway she and eye looked into eachothers eyes and I kept them there and she smiled, the kind where ive reached inside her unexpectedly lol. She walked past and I continued on my way.


Today
Woke around 1-2pm and had shower and met my friend at 3.30pm
We were gnna play some pool and eat out.
We chilled at this, went to play pool and then went to a mall to eat.

Nothing happened and then we decided to go to a strip club, so came to my area and went for a walk in the rain and I ended up taking some cool scenic snapchats.

We then came to mine, chilled and went to the strip club.
The girls were nice and he recommended I get a private dance so I did. I asked her if I could suck her tits and feel her all over and she was cool about it and she was very energetic so I went all out and gave it to her like I was some fucking stallion. Her collegues at the other end were staring at us lol. I could suck her tits cos she was moving so much but then she stopped, was sweating and sat with me until I paid her.

We chilled there some more and my friend got a dance.

I didnt once get an erection. It was nice but it wasnt a turn on. Unsure if this is DMSI or not, anyone know?

I could have taken a hottie home for a paid fuck, but I didnt cos I dont want to ejaculate for some escort/hired gun and lose the effect of DMSI.

If I come its cos a girl wants to fuck me without me paying as is per DMSI, not cos I simply went out looking for it. It also was easy cos I wasnt holding a hardon in my pants.

I did however want to go to a club and kiss a girl. I just wanted to kiss a girl cos yes im thinking alot about PotsGirl :/

So we finally ended up in a club and we danced and I got a mild cramp but not kissing or IOIs. My friend went to a girl and got chatting to her and then eventually her female friend cockblocked him.

I asked him what he did he said he just said hello and chatted shit. So as we were leaving I went to chat shit with a girl I thought was nice but he could tell she wasnt interested so we left.

Im now home and even at 5am, have placed my headphones on and im listening to DMSI.

I really want to change myself, I want to get more fit, more disciplined and make it easy to chat to girls and have then approach me as is the purpose of DMSI but I realise im so far away from this goal

As we left this club he asked a mixed group for a cig and then got chatting to them. The girl was hot but I just wasnt in the mood to try and talk to them even though I did out of politeness.

Eventually we found a taxi and voila im home.

I came home, got my headphones on and started to look at online adverts for local escorts, but im just bored, and not horny and wont call anyone cos im staying loyal to DMSI so it can work on me and for me.

My personal trainer is gnna hopefully call me tomorrow so I can ask more about the macros, as theres a little confusion for me with this.

42 days of no fap.

Damn! I don't think u should be dissappointed.. This a big step to be honest. I think DMSI is slowly opening up a path for u and changing ur perception so that u can work on urself