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Have to wonder what you fear from removing procrastination.
Shannon, if you are referring to catman's running OP4g, he's running overcoming pornography 4g, not overcoming procrastination, so resistance is in reference to pornography
(01-30-2016, 10:12 AM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, if you are referring to catman's running OP4g, he's running overcoming pornography 4g, not overcoming procrastination, so resistance is in reference to pornography

Wow, I too thought it was overcoming procrastination... never gave it a thought that it could be overcoming pornography.
(01-30-2016, 10:20 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]
(01-30-2016, 10:12 AM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]Shannon, if you are referring to catman's running OP4g, he's running overcoming pornography 4g, not overcoming procrastination, so resistance is in reference to pornography

Wow, I too thought it was overcoming procrastination... never gave it a thought that it could be overcoming pornography.


That's a misunderstanding on your part, friends.

I WAS running OPA4G earlier...I will return to it, for now, it's OP4G...which is Overcoming Procrastination 4G.

Procrastination is hurting my business, and since OPA4G has done a good enough job for now, I need to deal with Procrastination before finishing the last bit of hours on OPA4G and SM4G.

I've been listening to OP4G for 3 weeks now. Whatever I'm currently listening to is always in the description thing under my avatar.
Procrastination is a challenging one to deal with. It's usually based in a combination of fear and stubbornness. I had to deal with it a lot when I was younger. What killed it for me was learning how to transform my stubbornness into strong will directed to my own best interests, and overcoming the fears that triggered the resistance that was being expressed as procrastination.
my bad
(01-30-2016, 10:29 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Procrastination is a challenging one to deal with. It's usually based in a combination of fear and stubbornness. I had to deal with it a lot when I was younger. What killed it for me was learning how to transform my stubbornness into strong will directed to my own best interests, and overcoming the fears that triggered the resistance that was being expressed as procrastination.

That was EXACTLY why I combined OF4G along side! Great minds think alike haha.

But, it was too much resistance, and the exhaustion, even after sleeping for 12+ hours a day and latent depression wasn't helping. If it gets to the point where it's affecting me with my company, I have to make changes. So, I had to stop using OP4G along side OF4G and just focus on the one. I've been able to go 21 hours/day on OP4G no problem the last two days of just doing OP4G. So, maybe it was OF4G all along causing that? I don't know, I just know I got more out of OF4G than OP4G so far, even after 21 days. That's been surprising to me. But, everyone has different areas they need work on, and I've known procrastination has been an awful habit of mine for a very long time. So, not that much of a surprise I suppose. It's more of a surprise that the program is taking so long to get a foothold maybe. Maybe those two particular programs didn't mesh well, or it was TOO much, TOO fast.

I'll get my "focused fear destruction" in OF5G, I have no doubt. I plan to use it for an extended period. And you know how high I go on hours/day, haha!
I realized, for me, procrastination was fear of facing whatever I was putting off, but also how I motivated myself. I'd wait to the last minute, and the time pressure motivated me to get it done - so I suppose, motivation by fear of failure.

I wonder if removing that fear would just cause me not to do anything at all. I guess that's where programming for redirecting stubborn will - as well as motivation toward doing what's "in my best interest," - would come in.
I've run Overcome Procrastination 4G (OP4G) multiple times. When its working...it's absolutely amazing. Problem is that it that if you're buying OP4G to begin with it probably means procrastination is kicking your ass which usually means lots of resistance. I ran OP4G from January to August of last year and I might need to rerun it myself. That being said its an amazing program. I wish you luck.
remove the fear of action, and you are free to act.

sounds like OP needs an upgrade. Base it on OF 5G.
Hi K-Train! Smile

Your thread is exactly what I was thinking of when I said in Shannon's Journal Thread earlier, that he has expressed a desire to upgrade OP4G to 5G. His posts in there go way back saying that.

I'm very excited by the possibility of OP5G, Shannon. That'd be an amazing sub. Basing it off of OF5G could give me more fear destruction, and since it's obvious I need lots of that, that would be wonderful to get in this sub as a bonus Big Grin.

I think Ultra Motivation could be good to add into it. So you have the fear being removed, and then the motivation to see it through.
(01-30-2016, 11:52 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Hi K-Train! Smile

Your thread is exactly what I was thinking of when I said in Shannon's Journal Thread earlier, that he has expressed a desire to upgrade OP4G to 5G. His posts in there go way back saying that.

I'm very excited by the possibility of OP5G, Shannon. That'd be an amazing sub. Basing it off of OF5G could give me more fear destruction, and since it's obvious I need lots of that, that would be wonderful to get in this sub as a bonus Big Grin.

I think Ultra Motivation could be good to add into it. So you have the fear being removed, and then the motivation to see it through.

Thanks man Smile. And I agree, I think that's a good idea. I've found through personal usage of OP4G that it's basically a gate destroyer. In other words if something ( fear/laziness/whatever) is blocking you from doing something it will clear the crap out of the way so you CAN do it. Need to clean your room? As soon as the thought comes up you do clean it. Need to study? OP4G makes you study. This is when it's hitting on all cylinders mind you. I used it with MLS 3.0 for that reason because MLS has motivation programming within it and the combo was very potent.
I remember Shannon talking, even way back in that thread about OP5G, so this is amazing if he does this! I'll buy opening day and get the rest of my hours done on that version.

I need to get this handled, even before moving onto OF5G to deal with girl-related fears etc.

I remember you wrote about your issues with reflux, I hope those are much better now, buddy.
They are, in fact I don't even get it anymore thanks to MHS. Now I'm back on MHS to help with my ears although I have been doing some experiments with NSFM and have been pleased thus far. Thanks for the concern amigo. Smile
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