Wouldn't it theoretically be possible to send their putative molecules to a laboratory for gc/ms analysis? Provided we send them a list of all possible molecules it can be, so they know what they're identifying? I'm sure it will get expensive but there's gotta be a few labs that do it.
I collect samples to test for psychoactive drug metabolites at one of my jobs and send it to the lab for verification via gc/ms but it ain't cheap
(03-27-2016, 12:16 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn't it theoretically be possible to send their putative molecules to a laboratory for gc/ms analysis? Provided we send them a list of all possible molecules it can be, so they know what they're identifying? I'm sure it will get expensive but there's gotta be a few labs that do it.
I collect samples to test for psychoactive drug metabolites at one of my jobs and send it to the lab for verification via gc/ms but it ain't cheap
Already on this as we speak. The only thing that needs to be taken care is payment, and this should be in order real soon. My own mixes (there are at least 9 of them, mostly conceptual, and two with some degree of testing) require the identities of at least 28 different putatives. There's a chance this will comprise of most or all of the molecules used in PS.
Shannon, just going off memory, which putatives can you recall using in PS?
(03-27-2016, 08:08 PM)Ekscentra Wrote: [ -> ] (03-27-2016, 12:16 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]Wouldn't it theoretically be possible to send their putative molecules to a laboratory for gc/ms analysis? Provided we send them a list of all possible molecules it can be, so they know what they're identifying? I'm sure it will get expensive but there's gotta be a few labs that do it.
I collect samples to test for psychoactive drug metabolites at one of my jobs and send it to the lab for verification via gc/ms but it ain't cheap
Already on this as we speak. The only thing that needs to be taken care is payment, and this should be in order real soon. My own mixes (there are at least 9 of them, mostly conceptual, and two with some degree of testing) require the identities of at least 28 different putatives. There's a chance this will comprise of most or all of the molecules used in PS.
Shannon, just going off memory, which putatives can you recall using in PS?
Just going off memory, the only ones I remember are P83 and P96.
I can imagine Shannon's PS mix being absolutely insane, given his attention to research and detail. I've created a "PS Minor" that works exceptionally well... so well that I don't like using it because it FEELS a little wrong.
And P83 is in that mixture too.
Creating effective pheromone mixes is very much like painting. To get the best resulting "picture" you have to paint with all of the necessary "colors" and you have to use them in exactly the right ratios and amounts to achieve that result. I happen to be synaesthetic with pheromones and they "feel" like specific colors to me. This makes it relatively easy to know which ones will work together for my goal, but only with the calculator/predictive models was I able to really get specific and stand-out results with a large number of pheromones.
That's exactly how Mike over at Apex Pheromones works (also known by his handle Thundr @ Pherotruth). He sees his mixes behave as colors.
That's a really interesting approach. I've always approached mixes from the self-effects. Basically, I'll do some mental alchemy techniques to heighten awareness of what my mind is feeling and which instincts are firing off (the same technique I use before sparring in martial arts class) and then "follow where my inner spirit leads."
It's nowhere as impressive or scientific as the others, but it helped me put together a mix that had a woman begging to f**k in the backseat of my car about an hour after we met. Only problem was, it felt so easy that I began to feel like I had downright manipulated her rather than giving myself an edge, so I locked the mix away and haven't used it again...
But I think I will when I finish my second run of AM6 and start SM.
(03-29-2016, 08:29 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]That's exactly how Mike over at Apex Pheromones works (also known by his handle Thundr @ Pherotruth). He sees his mixes behave as colors.
Chris @ Alpha Dream and myself also experience this. Some of the best formulators in the industry have some form of synaesthesia. I have a mild form of associative synaesthesia, but the way I formulate mixes is much stranger than that.
I use my experiences, meld them with that of others (where those experiences click with me), and use the combination of the two to create a vivid image of the role each molecule plays in a mix. I use that image to seemingly pull new combinations out of thin air. I couldn't explain it if I tried.
At times, I can formulate mixes blind, without testing them, and still come up with exceptional results. I prefer to use other testers to refine mixes rather than myself, as it makes it easier to "step back" and understand what needs to be brought to the table.
P83 is Beta-THDOC - this I'm certain of. P96 is one of my top molecules for decoding purposes. This should become known before the end of this year.
(03-29-2016, 02:44 PM)Ekscentra Wrote: [ -> ] (03-29-2016, 08:29 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]That's exactly how Mike over at Apex Pheromones works (also known by his handle Thundr @ Pherotruth). He sees his mixes behave as colors.
P83 is Beta-THDOC - this I'm certain of. P96 is one of my top molecules for decoding purposes. This should become known before the end of this year.
This info might come in handy in the future. thanks!!!
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i noticed i tend to shame myself if i set expectations for myself, make them vocal, and then these expectations fall short. i really don't like it, and now it's gotten me self conscious of what i say out loud. which is good, because the whole world doesn't need to know me like an open book.
i realized this when i discovered it as a trigger today. I was told that the job in india that i was expecting to be going to in SEPTEMBER of 2015, which ended up getting pushed to november, and then again to january before i called it quits.... is back on and available for me again. however, this time, my ticket to india has already been booked and i am planning to be in pune, india in 30 days. (shout out to my indian brothers on subliminal talk, maybe we can meet up in person!) so now i am taking care on who i tell about this new event unfolding in order to avoid further situations where i would shame myself if it falls through again. i very much believe this to be a strong indicator that E2's ability to prevent future harm is working.
i also talked with the lady friend, and she hinted that our intimate relationship will be coming to an end soon, which i am completely okay with for various reasons. i'm not attached to our emotional/sexual relationship.
i also discovered today that i tend to invent reasons why i get confused emotionally, and thus make life much harder on myself than it needs to be. @Alpha360 even told me about this in one of his astro readings he did for me, but now i'm starting to see the correlation.
unfortunately, every day still feels a little uncomfortable, and i feel like i'm just coasting through this discomfort. i'd say it's like a mild form of depression, but it's not a sadness by any means. a good cry sounds like it would be pretty useful right about now...
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it seems the light at the end of the trouble is the fact that shannon knows what he's doing when he made the subliminal... other than that, it hasn't been a pleasant ride.
if happiness is one of the goals of the program, i'm still waiting on it.
Nobody said that "getting to good" would be all roses. I said that the program directs you to achieve it in ways, and at speeds, that you can handle. Everyone's journey will be different. Just keep going.
Thanks shannon, If I'm being completely honest, I just want the results without the work but that isn't a real thing so I just gotta work through this process to reap the benefits.
I'm grateful some of the difficulties im having is indicative of me having some high class problems , so there's nothing to be worried about lol
That's where the growth is at. All of the physical needs taken care of - food, shelter, other niceties. When those things are covered, we get to explore everything else - and that's where the hard work is. Emotional territory, "What's the meaning of life?" etc. Gratitude is so key when we're feeling down, and the exploration of happiness is a crazy journey.