(12-14-2016, 01:56 PM)Aventus45 Wrote: [ -> ]Why am I envisioning Version B is essentially going to be D-Day for the subconscious while Version A is a silent coup?
Version A achieves it's goals by healing and clearing anything standing in the way and executing the script. Version B has only a goal and a directive to "do whatever it takes". So to whatever degree it can, it will use whatever means it has to, to achieve it's goal.
In other words... over, under around... or through.
(12-14-2016, 02:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2016, 01:56 PM)Aventus45 Wrote: [ -> ]Why am I envisioning Version B is essentially going to be D-Day for the subconscious while Version A is a silent coup?
Version A achieves it's goals by healing and clearing anything standing in the way and executing the script. Version B has only a goal and a directive to "do whatever it takes". So to whatever degree it can, it will use whatever means it has to, to achieve it's goal.
In other words... over, under around... or through.
Or through. ...... ??????
Hahaha well if nothing else, I have these howitzer's pointed at me in the name of science. You all will remember me for eternity as the man who brought a katana to a howitzer fight.
I think I'm more intimidated by what you guys say than by what I feel at this point. We shall see. I'll most likely get back on A tomorrow night.
I've been on B for almost a week now, and in another two days I'll be back on my week stretch of A. I can tell you this much about B - at first glance you don't realize the full assault of it.
It's the retrospective aspect of it, it reminds me of this quote from one of my favorite movies, Rumble Fish.
"California's like a beautiful, wild... beautiful, wild girl on heroin... who's high as a kite, thinkin' she's on top of the world, not knowing she's dying even if you show her the marks."
(12-14-2016, 02:08 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2016, 01:56 PM)Aventus45 Wrote: [ -> ]Why am I envisioning Version B is essentially going to be D-Day for the subconscious while Version A is a silent coup?
Version A achieves it's goals by healing and clearing anything standing in the way and executing the script. Version B has only a goal and a directive to "do whatever it takes". So to whatever degree it can, it will use whatever means it has to, to achieve it's goal.
In other words... over, under around... or through.
version b should have faster results?
(12-14-2016, 05:06 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]I've been on B for almost a week now, and in another two days I'll be back on my week stretch of A. I can tell you this much about B - at first glance you don't realize the full assault of it.
It's the retrospective aspect of it, it reminds me of this quote from one of my favorite movies, Rumble Fish.
"California's like a beautiful, wild... beautiful, wild girl on heroin... who's high as a kite, thinkin' she's on top of the world, not knowing she's dying even if you show her the marks."
How is your experiences on Version B? Seems like it is more of a forced march that will drag you to your destination.
(12-14-2016, 06:13 PM)Aventus45 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2016, 05:06 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]I've been on B for almost a week now, and in another two days I'll be back on my week stretch of A. I can tell you this much about B - at first glance you don't realize the full assault of it.
It's the retrospective aspect of it, it reminds me of this quote from one of my favorite movies, Rumble Fish.
"California's like a beautiful, wild... beautiful, wild girl on heroin... who's high as a kite, thinkin' she's on top of the world, not knowing she's dying even if you show her the marks."
How is your experiences on Version B? Seems like it is more of a forced march that will drag you to your destination.
Not really a forced march, that's not how I would describe version B. Version B is a different animal from version A. Version A is really smooth, it just eases me into something and before I know it I'm in a deep sleep. The healing in Version A also keeps a lot of whatever is happening under the covers, so I don't know any better.
Version B is like a Mack Truck, except, you don't realize you're being run over. It's really direct and it changes you in an almost instantaneous way, except, you're so deep in the change, you don't realize the change is happening. Then, a few days pass by, and you catch your reflection, and you realize that the person looking back at you isn't the person you knew a week ago.
It's almost like the state shifting transforms you in such a way, you're living a parallel life, and the longer you spend on B, the more that parallel life becomes your everyday reality.
That being said, again, I'm switching between the two versions on a weekly basis. I'm actually looking forward to round two of the A version, because I'm interested to see what comes up after the assault of B has subsided.
I'm taking a day off between the switch, just to let it all process properly. Last week before the switch when I took that day off, the sub bloomed for me in a big way. I literally was ready to go and fuck any woman that caught my fancy, and women knew, you could see it on their face.
This week, that's been subdued some, but, it's as Shannon mentioned in one of his posts, I think the people around me are still trying to adjust to this new frame of mine.
At the end of the day, the sub is much bigger than slaying women. This sub can change your life. Women are just a byproduct of that.
So I wouldn't go into B thinking that you'll become an overnight superstar - that's not what will happen. What will happen is the sub will do everything to make you more of the high value individual that naturally has women soaking their panties wet at the idea of your mere presence.
This sub makes you the very best version of you that you can be.
(12-14-2016, 07:32 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2016, 06:13 PM)Aventus45 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-14-2016, 05:06 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]I've been on B for almost a week now, and in another two days I'll be back on my week stretch of A. I can tell you this much about B - at first glance you don't realize the full assault of it.
It's the retrospective aspect of it, it reminds me of this quote from one of my favorite movies, Rumble Fish.
"California's like a beautiful, wild... beautiful, wild girl on heroin... who's high as a kite, thinkin' she's on top of the world, not knowing she's dying even if you show her the marks."
How is your experiences on Version B? Seems like it is more of a forced march that will drag you to your destination.
Not really a forced march, that's not how I would describe version B. Version B is a different animal from version A. Version A is really smooth, it just eases me into something and before I know it I'm in a deep sleep. The healing in Version A also keeps a lot of whatever is happening under the covers, so I don't know any better.
Version B is like a Mack Truck, except, you don't realize you're being run over. It's really direct and it changes you in an almost instantaneous way, except, you're so deep in the change, you don't realize the change is happening. Then, a few days pass by, and you catch your reflection, and you realize that the person looking back at you isn't the person you knew a week ago.
It's almost like the state shifting transforms you in such a way, you're living a parallel life, and the longer you spend on B, the more that parallel life becomes your everyday reality.
That being said, again, I'm switching between the two versions on a weekly basis. I'm actually looking forward to round two of the A version, because I'm interested to see what comes up after the assault of B has subsided.
I'm taking a day off between the switch, just to let it all process properly. Last week before the switch when I took that day off, the sub bloomed for me in a big way. I literally was ready to go and **** any woman that caught my fancy, and women knew, you could see it on their face.
This week, that's been subdued some, but, it's as Shannon mentioned in one of his posts, I think the people around me are still trying to adjust to this new frame of mine.
At the end of the day, the sub is much bigger than slaying women. This sub can change your life. Women are just a byproduct of that.
So I wouldn't go into B thinking that you'll become an overnight superstar - that's not what will happen. What will happen is the sub will do everything to make you more of the high value individual that naturally has women soaking their panties wet at the idea of your mere presence.
This sub makes you the very best version of you that you can be.
Thanks for the description. I needed a better idea of how Version B operated.
(12-14-2016, 07:32 PM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]This sub makes you the very best version of you that you can be.
This is what I have been feeling.
Here's my report.
So, I didn't end up getting laid like I was hoping. But it became very clear to me that she has put me in the LTR/"won't have sex unless in a relationship with" category, and i'm CERTAINLY not in the friendzone at all, like I had feared --lots of thanks to the dimsee in that department, duh. She kept having freudian slips while we were talking throughout the night. Some part of me believes they really weren't freudian slips and she was doing it on purpose.. She was also all over me, physically. making lots of contact; some of it blatantly obvious and on purpose, other contact was seemingly on accident, but we all know girls don't touch guys by accident. When she found out about the girl that I am talking to that lives in her house, she nearly flipped out and almost walked out. She said she was so surprised and disgusted that I waste my time and energy talking to someone she thought so lowly of, and that she was jealous.
A friend warned me to make sure to be careful that she's not a "time ho", and I need to deliberate on that for a while before I understand fully what is the meaning of the situation.
Anyway, I can tell the "healing the affected person and clearing anything that prevents her from achieving the goals of the program with me" works like a CHARM. She was talking about how just being with me today she realized how naive she was about the guy she was with off and on for 5 years. A guy she really loves. And that now, she's "Grieving the L that was in love with him"... my interpretation of that was "i am taking him out of the picture".
At one point she started talking about an experience she really enjoyed when dating another guy. She was telling me about this experience with him, and said something along the lines of "when i was dating [eternity], i really loved that X,Y,Z"... like.. SHANNON. WHAT IS THIS SORCERY!? She was playing back a film strip of an experience she had of a man she really enjoyed but she saw ME as the one who provided her the experience.
So while I was driving home, she called me and was like "hey i'm disgusted at the way I feel right now. I can't believe I was so demanding and manipulative that I felt the need to impose my views on who you can and can't spend time talking to. I have no idea why I feel the way I do!"
me thinking to myself: yeah i know exactly why you feel the way you do. You connected the dots that I was talking to a girl in your house, and that me and her have a thing going on, and you don't like it because you're starting to have feelings for me again (yes, she is the same person who SM3 manifested for me, dec 31 of last year)
so shannon, for your data:
-the aura is showing signs of healing the other person
-her face was completely red at a few points of the night, something i've never seen in her EVER.
-her memory slipped into a reality where it was ME who provided such a positive experience for her when in fact it was some other guy who gave her that experience
-friendzone was nullified.
-the so called shit test from the other day turned out not to be a shit test at all, and i was overthinking things because of the emotions I needed to heal and clear.
-i survived round one of the howitzer. (duke.to.go. and chaosvrgn has me scared shitless about tomorrow tho :'( )
(12-14-2016, 08:26 PM)eternity Wrote: [ -> ]Here's my report.
So, I didn't end up getting laid like I was hoping. But it became very clear to me that she has put me in the LTR/"won't have sex unless in a relationship with" category, and i'm CERTAINLY not in the friendzone at all, like I had feared --lots of thanks to the dimsee in that department, duh. She kept having freudian slips while we were talking throughout the night. Some part of me believes they really weren't freudian slips and she was doing it on purpose.. She was also all over me, physically. making lots of contact; some of it blatantly obvious and on purpose, other contact was seemingly on accident, but we all know girls don't touch guys by accident. When she found out about the girl that I am talking to that lives in her house, she nearly flipped out and almost walked out. She said she was so surprised and disgusted that I waste my time and energy talking to someone she thought so lowly of, and that she was jealous.
A friend warned me to make sure to be careful that she's not a "time ho", and I need to deliberate on that for a while before I understand fully what is the meaning of the situation.
Anyway, I can tell the "healing the affected person and clearing anything that prevents her from achieving the goals of the program with me" works like a CHARM. She was talking about how just being with me today she realized how naive she was about the guy she was with off and on for 5 years. A guy she really loves. And that now, she's "Grieving the L that was in love with him"... my interpretation of that was "i am taking him out of the picture".
At one point she started talking about an experience she really enjoyed when dating another guy. She was telling me about this experience with him, and said something along the lines of "when i was dating [eternity], i really loved that X,Y,Z"... like.. SHANNON. WHAT IS THIS SORCERY!? She was playing back a film strip of an experience she had of a man she really enjoyed but she saw ME as the one who provided her the experience.
So while I was driving home, she called me and was like "hey i'm disgusted at the way I feel right now. I can't believe I was so demanding and manipulative that I felt the need to impose my views on who you can and can't spend time talking to. I have no idea why I feel the way I do!"
me thinking to myself: yeah i know exactly why you feel the way you do. You connected the dots that I was talking to a girl in your house, and that me and her have a thing going on, and you don't like it because you're starting to have feelings for me again (yes, she is the same person who SM3 manifested for me, dec 31 of last year)
so shannon, for your data:
-the aura is showing signs of healing the other person
-her face was completely red at a few points of the night, something i've never seen in her EVER.
-her memory slipped into a reality where it was ME who provided such a positive experience for her when in fact it was some other guy who gave her that experience
-friendzone was nullified.
-the so called shit test from the other day turned out not to be a shit test at all, and i was overthinking things because of the emotions I needed to heal and clear.
-i survived round one of the howitzer. (duke.to.go. and chaosvrgn has me scared shitless about tomorrow tho :'( )
You don't need to be afraid of it. You just need to be prepared. It's not going to kill you, but it will challenge you. Just stand strong. And thank you for the extremely valuable data.
I'm debating whether or not I should switch to B! lol.
It is surely challenging me. Making me feel my own incompetence. I am hyper aware of where I need improvement / self training. Not entirely sure if it is exactly healing I need, but I am definitely aware of where I am lacking in my skills and abilities to achieve the design goals of the program. With that said, version a would be an immediate necessity, as its design goal of doing whatever is necessary to achieve the goals probably includes learning whatever it is that I need to know to be successful with women.
BTW, regarding the effect of healing her, I'm so grateful that MY aura is healing HER. If the aura continues to heal women just by being in my presence, I think this alone makes v3 a gold mine. Kudos.
I forgot to mention a really important piece of information about last night.
As we left the checkout line, L had to go to the bathroom, so I'm chilling there waiting for her and this guy opens me. He was easily 1ft3in taller than me and towered over me. But he was like "so what are you up to man?" since i'm extroverted, we actually shot the shit for a good minute or two until L came out of the bathroom. She saw that I was talking to some random dude lol. I tell the guy "okay man it was nice meeting you, take care." and he responds in kind. As we're walking out the door, L says "You make friends everywhere you go!" me: "yeah that's what i do!"
***
i'm back on A. i was really tempted to do B again, but I was feeling rough around the edges. So I decided to get back on A.
I felt the H drip during the first half of loop 1, but it's almost entirely gone at this moment, listening to loop 3. I'm back on edge again. feeling a tiny bit of anxiety, really... but that could be due to taking moda this morning, or just flat out because I decided to run B. not really sure.
Someone added me on faceobok who i thought was a fake profile. All signs pointed to it being so. I messaged her asking if we knew each other, since we had 30 mutual friends. she responds "like my pro pic please". being such a botty response, i say "u like mine first"
she's like "ok. just did" but she really never did like my profile pic. so, in case she was a spam bot, I took a screenshot of the conversation and posted it on faecbook saying "i don't think she is real" just to give my friends a fair warning in case she adds them and then gets spammed later.
A bunch of mutual friends comment saying "She's real she's real!" and so i start feeling bad that she might actually be real, and that i just shamed her publicly. i comment saying "i'm still waiting on that profile pic like tho".. and a friend tags her and says "yo where's [eternity]'s like 4 like at?". so now, she definitely saw the post. if she's real.
and if she's real, i just created an awesome reason to go meet up with her (she's hot): to make amends for shaming her publicly.
i still don't think her profile is real though. and if it is, she's been hacked. I specifically asked if we had met before, and she completely disregards what i asked her and goes straight to "like my pro pic please".
whatever. dimsee got me feeling like a boss, either way:
1) before, i never would have messaged a girl like this (even if i thought she was fake)
2) i never would have took a screenshot and posted it publicly
3) i have guy friends who KNOW her as being real, who are STILL backin me up on this post.
4) and another friend argued with a girl who says it's a real profile saying it's fake. [eternity] has spoken; great social proof from men.