Subliminal Talk

and finally....

(10-01-2018, 06:00 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

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(10-01-2018, 09:50 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]The key to being helpful is to help me understand how and why you are resisting, and how to help you execute instead. So far the only thing I have been able to do to figure this out is build, observe, adjust, repeat.

The next few versions of DMSI are going to need to be tested by the most challenging of you. I'm seeing a definite pattern in why the resistance is happening, and what is behind it. Figuring out how to change it to execution is what I'm working on now.

The only thing I can suggest is, keep doing DMSI when it comes out, and stick to whatever instructions I give you during the run.

Thank you @Shannon.
Therefore shall I immediately stop UM/OP?

And if so may I have a refund for this which will help me towards further versions of DMSI?

I will try my best to give you as much data as I can from my journals and ask that you ask me anything specific as we go forward should you need more information from me.

Thanks buddy!

If you're using UMOP, keep using it. If you want a refund, you have to follow the refund policy. It is in place to be fair to both our customers and ourselves. Ignoring it on a whim makes it useless.

I have run you through the models, and these are the results for how to get results from UMOP.

The best results (which look really good) for you come from using it for 11 loops per day, every day.

Second best results come from 5 loops per day.

11 loops a day is vastly superior, of course, but may be difficult for you to get in a single day. If it is at all possible, do 11 loops. I think you'll be very pleased with the results.

Don't worry about DMSI until you're done using UMOP for three months, as instructed. I think it is important to find a way to get past your fears without focusing on so many goals at once. UMOP is a much less ambitious option for the time being. Let's try to take baby steps, shall we? And if this doesn't work, we can go back to DMSI.

I think you'll find, once you break through your resistance to UMOP, that two things happen.

1. You're going to really enjoy UMOP.
2. You're going to feel a lot better because you'll see that you can break through that fear and get things accomplished.

(10-01-2018, 06:26 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-01-2018, 06:22 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-01-2018, 06:10 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-01-2018, 06:00 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:Thank you @Shannon.
Therefore shall I immediately stop UM/OP?

And if so may I have a refund for this which will help me towards further versions of DMSI?

I will try my best to give you as much data as I can from my journals and ask that you ask me anything specific as we go forward should you need more information from me.

Thanks buddy!

If you're using UMOP, keep using it. If you want a refund, you have to follow the refund policy. It is in place to be fair to both our customers and ourselves. Ignoring it on a whim makes it useless.

I have run you through the models, and these are the results for how to get results from UMOP.

The best results (which look really good) for you come from using it for 11 loops per day, every day.

Second best results come from 5 loops per day.

11 loops a day is vastly superior, of course, but may be difficult for you to get in a single day. If it is at all possible, do 11 loops. I think you'll be very pleased with the results.

Don't worry about DMSI until you're done using UMOP for three months, as instructed. I think it is important to find a way to get past your fears without focusing on so many goals at once. UMOP is a much less ambitious option for the time being. Let's try to take baby steps, shall we? And if this doesn't work, we can go back to DMSI.

I think you'll find, once you break through your resistance to UMOP, that two things happen.

1. You're going to really enjoy UMOP.
2. You're going to feel a lot better because you'll see that you can break through that fear and get things accomplished.

Wow thank you Shannon.

11 loops is 11 continuous loops I presume yes or total of 11 loops in any way within 24hours?

As always, all loops must be contiguous.

Quote:I'll have a good think about it but 5hours seems most likely I think which is a pity if 11 will give me the most results.

How much more inferior would 5 loops be to the 11? Can I not compromise and do 6-8loops a day?

Did I say you could compromise? You will get best results at 11 loops a day, and second best results at 5. 6 also showed a positive result, but the indicators were suggesting that you would not be getting as good a result as 5 loops. I would count 6 loops as a third rate choice, and one which will not pan out well in the long run.

Quote:And the ARSB please is now daily no breaks or it remains 7 days on 2 days off?

Again thank you really appreciate it!

ASRB is the same. Just do 5 or 11 loops a day. Let's see if you find a way to stonewall this.

Haha ok understood. It's 3.25am here so I'll do the 3 loops for tonight and then plan how to fit in either 5 or 11 loops into my day. Again thank you very much for taking the time out to model me etc really appreciate it!

So based on the above:

Doing 11 loops is amazing for me = "12hours 28mins"

5 Loops isnt as good but its still going to help me compared to the current 3 loops = "5hours 40mins."

6 Loops is the 3rd option but wouldnt be as effective in the long run.



I have been trying to figure out how to get 11 loops into my day on a consistent basis.

I have tried to really figure it out and cannot see any credible way.

Assuming I wake up at 6am, then I need to start playing the sub from around 5.30pm.

I cannot play USilent, since the speakers I have that play 20khz are positioned well around my bed and are not portable at all.

I need portability since I am not only in my living room, but move around of course from the lavatory to the kitchen to the bathroom for a shower to the living room etc - so something portable that can play masked.

This means a stereo speaker not a mono which mobile phones are and we know mono arent effective and I as a heavy resistor need to try and do this right!

So it means getting a new mp3 player that can play flac, is affordable and then to purchase a new portable stereo speaker which then I use from 5.30pm in my apartment and then take everywhere with me and then eventually back to my bedroom and leave it on there.

This just isnt feasible

I know my nature, I will become so fixated on the speaker and making sure I am listening right and taking it everywhere that I wont focus on anything else I feel.

I also know that spending more money isnt feasible for me at all.

Most of all I also know that I will have days, when I need to leave the apartment or have friends come over, to chill or study and having trickling stream will annoy them or confuse them especially as for now these subs are a private part of my life and not something I can advertise UNTIL I start seeing results.

I also have used mask and for me its just pointless watching a movie or show as it always interefers and I end up either turning the laptop volume up or the mask - something always ends up losing in the end!




I really really want to do the best for me but the logistics are not on my side.

In the past for anyone reading this, I had tried sleep headphones and they were very sore for my ears - just the way my head and ears are shaped.

I have also tried headphones and know from experience that after 1 hour my ears do get warm or slightly uncomfortable which could be subconscious so I know this doesnt work for me either.

I had just before working all this out, spent a few hours researching portable speakers and portable mp3 players before realising that this is not possible for me since im not at home or living out of my basement but at uni abroad and travelling to and from the UK does play a part in breaking consistency which I also have to factor in and work around.

So far the things I have bought for these IML subs are:

A2+ audio engine speakers - $280 / £200

Sony NWZ-B183B Portable Walkman - $60 / £40

Bose Bose AE2w Bluetooth Headphones - $280 / £200

Total: $620 / £440

I think its fair to say I should use what I have and not spend a penny more.

Therefore the best option for me at this stage is to use the sub for the 5 loops and hope for the best.

Use it at night, whilst sleeping using the A2+ speakers connected and playing through my phone.

Thanks

Extra: I should also mention that I will also be starting soon with a personal trainer and im sure going to and from the gym (7mins awake away) will make life tricky too to fit in 11 loops.

Not all smartphone have stereo but.
I bought Motorola play z phone with stereo speaker MOD, they goes up too 20khz, works great and it's very mobile, speaker last around 8hours before recharge and 30min recharge for full power.
Just a thought.

(10-03-2018, 06:39 AM)Ryu Wrote: [ -> ]Not all smartphone have stereo but.
I bought Motorola play z phone with stereo speaker MOD, they goes up too 20khz, works great and it's very mobile, speaker last around 8hours before recharge and 30min recharge for full power.
Just a thought.

I just found this, is it this?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motorola-SoundB...tr_m101-21

I cant find any specs on whether this is stereo though at 20khz bro.

Unfortunately I have been on the online chat with VodaFone UK as they have this phone with the speaker but it will cost me monthly and this I cannot afford at this moment in time

Solution: I think I have managed to find the phone that RYU mentioned over in Europe/the country that I am studying in.

Once I fly back I will enquire and see.

Therefore for now its best I start with 5loops until further notice.

thanks @Ryu

Once you pick one and start doing it, that's your choice, and it will probably cause ripples that invalidate the other option. It would need to be re-calculated for you to make a change from whatever you chose. Which I am not going to do. So by all means, stick to whatever you chose.

Every action you take changes your future course and all variables associated with it, however imperceptibly small. Over time, those changes become magnified through the butterfly effect. So after you start doing 5 loops, you can't just switch to 11 later on because you didn't choose that path when the option was still valid. Now you have a different set of variable values and a different probability line set to choose from, and to know if 11 loops would still do you well, you need to re-calculate the probability lines.

You could have just used it on your cell phone. I think you are too afraid of failure and success at the same time.

Whatever the case, do the 5 loops a day and we'll see what happens.

(10-03-2018, 07:46 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]Once you pick one and start doing it, that's your choice, and it will probably cause ripples that invalidate the other option. It would need to be re-calculated for you to make a change from whatever you chose. Which I am not going to do. So by all means, stick to whatever you chose.

Every action you take changes your future course and all variables associated with it, however imperceptibly small. Over time, those changes become magnified through the butterfly effect. So after you start doing 5 loops, you can't just switch to 11 later on because you didn't choose that path when the option was still valid. Now you have a different set of variable values and a different probability line set to choose from, and to know if 11 loops would still do you well, you need to re-calculate the probability lines.

You could have just used it on your cell phone. I think you are too afraid of failure and success at the same time.

Whatever the case, do the 5 loops a day and we'll see what happens.

Thanks Shannon, I appreciate the feedback here.

I have used phone in the past and I remember specifically at first how I used it at the time because it works for you and modern phones are better than old mono speakers and then later (maybe earlier this year) how a phone works for you but all of your subs work for you and thus phones may not be best for others.

On this basis I stopped relying solely on my phone and thus invested in speakers to use in the UK whenever I go back.

For Europe, I have looked into the phone that RYU has suggested (a motorola and a Lenova). The motorola is there but is expensive. The Lenova i've just finished researching isnt there and in the UK its price is still outside of my budget as I have more outgoings to consider than last year unfortunately.

The mobile phone would be a perfect option (it is stereo speaker and 20khz) indeed it seems so there is a 3rd option...

I remain on 3 loops now, and wait until I can afford it which should be in 30days time approximately.

If I can afford it then and it seems a credible option then I purchase and start on the 11 loops otherwise by then I can start on the 5.

@Shannon Is 30days going to change anything do you think?

Thank you

Shannon replied:

(10-03-2018, 09:45 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-03-2018, 09:19 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-03-2018, 07:48 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-02-2018, 06:46 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-02-2018, 04:39 AM)cataleya Wrote: [ -> ]I would get 4 hours in the evening when I`m chilling at home. And the remaining 7 hours while I sleep.

Thank you. I unfortunately cannot do that as the 11hours have to be continuous without any stoppage.

It seems 5hours may be still the most likely way for me even though I would love to do the 11.

Where there is a will, there is a way. I never have trouble finding a way to do 11 loops a day if that's what I want to do. Even a low battery rarely stops me, because I have a 10,000 mAh battery pack in my car, always charged up and ready to go. The truth is, you (or some part of you) doesn't want to do 11 loops because it may achieve the goals.

@Shannon Thanks buddy.

Ive replied to you on my thread but im trying hard to find a way to do 11loops. I dont want to use a phone as the speakers arent great and this has been tested before. I also now only 1 have phone and I am always getting texts and calls. 11loops means 12hours 28mins and thus very likely calls will pause the play at the very least. - (I cannot be out of phone reach for 12hours).

I am looking at another option. If the price of this option/phone stays the same and doesn't go up then I could purchase this I feel in 30days time approximately and then use ultra silent and play it no matter where I go.

Based on your modelling (ive asked this in my thread), will 30days wait be okay or will that change the results of 11loops and 5loops that you found?

If it will then I will choose 5 loops as the most credible option and start on that otherwise wait the 30days see if I can afford to buy the phone that plays 20khz and play 11loops otherwise start on 5loops then too.

thank you again.

For any forecast made for anything in any way, there is a phenomenon known as the Window of Validity. During that period of time after the forecast is made, it is valid, because the variables in play have not changed sufficiently to invalidate it.

After they change sufficiently, it is no longer valid. This window is usually a maximum of about 3 days.

I would just get started now with whatever is possible for you to do.

Based on this above, I have to make a decision NOW and since I dont have any viable way to play ultrasonic I will now choose 5 loops at night (playing HYBRID Trickling Stream as I have been doing so far anyway).

I have re-named this Journal Thread to highlight this.

Once my 2 day break ends, I will begin with 5 loops.

Lets hope this works for me!

After reading all this I am also gonna start 5 loops from tomorrow.

I am havt gotten any result which I was expecting. Only weird dreams and stuff.

(10-03-2018, 03:07 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]After reading all this I am also gonna start 5 loops from tomorrow.

I am havt gotten any result which I was expecting. Only weird dreams and stuff.

Good Luck! Let's hope we see results. - rename your journal like me too.

Day 19 - Friday 5th Oct 2018
Time:12.03pm - (Cycle 3 - Day1 - Start of 5 Loops)
Hybrid Trickling Stream

Just finished listening.
Don't feel any different.

Obstacles:
1> I didnt want to go to sleep. I felt I knew I had to get 5 loops in but was staying awake instead. This could be 2 things:

A) my natural procrastinator behaviour - when I know I need to do something I avoid it (with a sense of arrogance/cockiness usually that I'll be ok anyway)

B) it may have been my subC keeping me from playing the sub as it believes 5 loops will/may work.

C) perhaps none of the above as it's not the first time I avoid sleeping and stay glued to my phone (social media/games etc).

I believe however it could be A & B.

2> I had to take a bathroom break for 1 minute approx during the final/5th loop. I forgot at exactly what time but hope it's not a major issue.

3> Returning from the bathroom I felt the volume was very quiet. Almost barely audible so turned the volume up which was comfortable. Again hopefully not an issue.

4> 10-20mins approx before the loop finally finished my sister came into my room making noise and disturbing me. Hopefully not an issue.

I return back to Europe tomorrow so may not get 5 loops in before my flight but will aim to do it when I'm back in my apartment.

I'll make sure my volume is sufficient.

I will be returning back to the UK in approximately 36days time and may be going on holiday for 1 week. If this is finalised then it may cause an impairment to my listening however my only option will then be to either use my s7 edge phone which is mono or purchase the Lenovo z range with jbl speaker mod add-on which I was discussing with @Ryu.

Thanks

Epiphany:

Whilst just brushing my teeth I was thinking about how I will study next week and be focused etc.

I realised I spend time focused on planning dreaming ie the future and less on the now or less on taking action in the now.

I'm guessing this is what you will call fear Shannon.

Mentioning incase it's important but it would be great to have the desire of the future and the confidence of that future self brought into the present and now.

I see you're already self sabotaging.