Subliminal Talk

(09-17-2018, 11:27 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If you don't really understand why, start using the Socratic method. Ask yourself questions that lead to understanding more in steps. You may not be able to answer each step instantly. Some of them may require that you think about it for a while.

@Shannon, ive no real idea what that is but if its a form of introspection then its worth a try. Ill have to google about it but dont want to do that just yet and have it become a way to procrastinate further lol

Do you feel whatever the issues are around my fear, that if UMOP-B doesnt clear it, then track A might?

and will track A use beast 17 and other updated tech?

thanks bro

Day 2 - Tuesday 18th Sept 2018

Yesterday booked flights to go back to the UK for 5 days and asked family to buy logitech z150 speakers for me so that I can continue with UMOP when there too. - I will be going next week.

Yesterday to bed earlier, so that I could try and get good sleep and also give UMOP better chance to work.

I turned the volume 1 click less, so its now at 4/15 on my samsung s4 phone plugged into my speakers which is on full volume.

So todays update:

UMOP did wake me up a little when it played so I guess that is unavoidable.

My alarm woke me up at 6.30am but I struggled to get out of bed until 7.05am. - was exhausted.

Went uni for 8.30am, finished at 10.30am

Since coming home ive eaten, and done more laundry, dishes, and found bills (past 2 years worth of utilities) that I needed to show my landlord as im being overcharged by the heating company. I didnt want to do this as the feeling of effort and overwhelm to find and then organise these bills felt like it would take too much time (EPHIPHANY moment - I do have an issue with time, could this be what @Shannon wants me to figure out?).

Anyway I found and collated the bills and then organise that cupboard too. - check

I took the laundry out and now at 4.05pm its time to unwrap my wall planner/academic calendar and swap with the outdated one stuck to my wall - been putting this off and avoiding this too so will get this done.

It seems that im doing things with either less focus than I should or im doing is lazily rather than quickly or at a healthy pace - this could be due to me feeling tired since im not getting enough hours of sleep yet.

I aim to go to sleep earlier today in the hope I get the desired 9-10hours that I need.

Lastnight I went to sleep at 11.30pm and so today will aim for 9pm.

update 2 of day 2:

time is 6.23pm

I ate and procrastinated or was just lazy but then got back into gear!! swapped the wall planner which wasnt easy as sticky tac (stick rubber to stick things to walls) took forever to remove, clean and reapply.

New planner is up on the wall and eventually I can fill in my uni time table and years schedule to it and get more organised.

I wont lie, I have been horny since I got back and doubt this is UMOP but ill mention it incase its relevant to this sub as it was to DMSI lol

Now im drinking a hot herbal tea for my throat which is sore, and also had a chat with 3 friends and will now plan to have a shower, and then aim to get into bed by 8.30pm if I can.

Update3 of day 2
Time:10.50pm

Procrastinated. Ate. Watched 2hours of the big bang theory and then finally had a shower. Then rather than sleeping was on the phone to a girl from UK who I think is into me but only now had to tell her I need to sleep as getting late here.

Overall not pleased about my wastage of time.

(09-18-2018, 11:52 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Update3 of day 2
Time:10.50pm

Procrastinated. Ate. Watched 2hours of the big bang theory and then finally had a shower. Then rather than sleeping was on the phone to a girl from UK who I think is into me but only now had to tell her I need to sleep as getting late here.

Overall not pleased about my wastage of time.

So maybe do something about it.

Jake even when I had days where I wasted time after being productive nothing to worry about. I think this sub works from small to big..

(09-18-2018, 01:11 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-18-2018, 11:52 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]Update3 of day 2
Time:10.50pm

Procrastinated. Ate. Watched 2hours of the big bang theory and then finally had a shower. Then rather than sleeping was on the phone to a girl from UK who I think is into me but only now had to tell her I need to sleep as getting late here.

Overall not pleased about my wastage of time.

So maybe do something about it.

What more do you suggest I do @Shannon ?

(09-18-2018, 07:17 PM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]Jake even when I had days where I wasted time after being productive nothing to worry about. I think this sub works from small to big..

thanks bro I hope thats the case

Day 3 - Wednesday 19th Sept 2018
Time:2.10pm

I got to bed late as you know from above and finally slept maybe around midnight.

I didnt hear or get woken up my UMOP so hope it played.

I got woken up by my alarms set at 6.30am but kept snoozing as was just so tired.

I was exhausted and finally woke at 8.20, 10mins before my class.

I decided it was unlikely I would get there in time and going in late for simply a 1-2hour class seemed silly so went back to sleep.

I woke at 10am - bathroom - back to sleep.

Kept feeling exhausted.

Finally woke at 12pm because of calls and was informed uni was relaxed today so i missed nothing at all - very lucky!

I finally got up, rushed to the ATM to take some money out, get some snacks from the local bakery and am back typing this before a maintaince guy comes at 2.30pm; after which ill finally sit to have my late breakfast.

Overall its been an exhausting day and even now I feel rather tired and no idea why.

I was actually about to go over to @Shannon's journal and ask him the following:

Will Beast 17 be incorporated into UMOP-trackA and thus would track A be better at helping me get past the fears I have that were highlighted in my journal so far?

I then realised even with breast 16 there were 'ooohs' and 'aahhhs' at how powerful it would be and so many hopes and each time I would sit hoping the next sub would be that much more powerful to help me execute it that its best I dont ask but just continue until Shannon releases Track A at which point I can see what development I have made with this sub.

You could use a more regular sleeping schedule. Right now, it`s all over the place.

(09-19-2018, 03:56 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]I was actually about to go over to @Shannon's journal and ask him the following:

Will Beast 17 be incorporated into UMOP-trackA and thus would track A be better at helping me get past the fears I have that were highlighted in my journal so far?

I then realised even with breast 16 there were 'ooohs' and 'aahhhs' at how powerful it would be and so many hopes and each time I would sit hoping the next sub would be that much more powerful to help me execute it that its best I dont ask but just continue until Shannon releases Track A at which point I can see what development I have made with this sub.

I have told you this before, Jake. Your problem is that you don't want to achieve the goals. You want to pretend to try to achieve the goals while using the subs as a scapegoat, while you just do what you wanted to do to begin with.

And if that's the case, you might as well just stop using subs, slack of or whatever, and save yourself some time and me some frustration. If you want to fail that badly, be my guest.

But if you want to achieve the goals of the programs, you will have to admit to yourself that you are responsible for your own choices and actions, and even if we are not talking about subconscious ones, you know consciously when you are slacking off. You know consciously what choices and actions lead to slacking off or achieving the goals you have. And you can choose to not slack off, at any time. It's always your choice. Just like it's your conscious choice to buy a sub, use it, ignore what it's trying to do, and then try to say the sub is responsible for why XYZ happened.

Even when the subs work they work because YOU made them work.

Children act like this. It's time to grow up and start taking responsibility for yourself and your choices and actions, Jake. Whether or not you use subs.

You always have an excuse for doing what you really want to do instead of doing what you know you should be doing.

Your actions tell me that you want to be a manual laborer, or work in fast food all your life while you sit around and slack off, never accomplishing anything of real worth and then wondering why nothing ever goes right for you because everyone else and everything else somehow failed you.

I will tell you for a second time.

Stop trying to hide behind everyone and everything else, and grow the hell up. YOU are responsible for your choices and actions. Subliminals are a list of instructions that YOU have to CHOOSE to execute. You are just using them as a weak outward display of "But it's not MY fault that I'm not doing anything, it's THE SUB'S FAULT! It's supposed to be doing this FOR ME!"

At least grow a pair and own your own choices and decisions. And at that point, why bother pretending to try ding anything else? Just sit in a chair all day and drink beer.

When I have a job to do, I don't always want to do it. Like building the same sub over and over and over. MLS or DMSI, for instance.

It gets old. It's frustrating. And part of me is NOT interested in doing it again.

But it gets done anyway. Why? Because consciously, I know that that subconscious part of me doesn't want to do it, but I know consciously that I am responsible for the results regardless. So I consciously choose to do it, and then I DO IT.

That's the difference between children and adults. Adults do what it takes to get what they need and want done. Children do what you are doing.

I didn't have or use UMOP when I was building DMSI all those times. Or MLS. But they got done. All I ever see from you is this same pattern. You buy a sub, and seem to get excited, and then you use it and ignore what it's trying to do, and then complain for ages about how it doesn't work.

Every sub!

So I'll hand it to you, you have a strong will. But a strong will makes your success in life polarize: you'll either have a lot of it, or you'll screw yourself by refusing to do what is necessary to get there.

What's gonna happen when you blow university because you decided "it wasn't worth getting to class"?

You're going to end up without a college degree. And working without one of those means you either have to work for yourself (which you surely will not be able to do if you haven't got self control enough to get anything important done) or you're probably going to end up in retail or foodservice forever.

And hey, if college isn't for you, great. Do your thang. But unless you get this issue solved, you are almost certainly going to screw yourself royally in life, and it's going to continue until one day you have to face the reality that will become more and more bitter every day that YOU did that to yourself, and it's YOUR FAULT. Nobody else's. And the one resource you can't ever get more of is TIME.

So instead of trying to sit and wait for track A, why don't you get off your ass and do something, with or without the sub? Your grocery list isn't going to go grocery shopping for you, it's there to make your shopping easier.

This definitely does not incentivize me to make UMOP A until after I finish DMSI. All you would do is continue this cycle of excuses and hiding, with results I can almost bet on. You need to choose to get off your ass and face your fears. Not run subliminals that you can and do very obviously ignore.

(09-19-2018, 04:48 AM)cataleya Wrote: [ -> ]You could use a more regular sleeping schedule. Right now, it`s all over the place.

story of my life unfortunately

(09-19-2018, 04:49 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-19-2018, 03:56 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]I was actually about to go over to @Shannon's journal and ask him the following:

Will Beast 17 be incorporated into UMOP-trackA and thus would track A be better at helping me get past the fears I have that were highlighted in my journal so far?

I then realised even with breast 16 there were 'ooohs' and 'aahhhs' at how powerful it would be and so many hopes and each time I would sit hoping the next sub would be that much more powerful to help me execute it that its best I dont ask but just continue until Shannon releases Track A at which point I can see what development I have made with this sub.

I have told you this before, Jake. Your problem is that you don't want to achieve the goals. You want to pretend to try to achieve the goals while using the subs as a scapegoat, while you just do what you wanted to do to begin with.

And if that's the case, you might as well just stop using subs, slack of or whatever, and save yourself some time and me some frustration. If you want to fail that badly, be my guest.

But if you want to achieve the goals of the programs, you will have to admit to yourself that you are responsible for your own choices and actions, and even if we are not talking about subconscious ones, you know consciously when you are slacking off. You know consciously what choices and actions lead to slacking off or achieving the goals you have. And you can choose to not slack off, at any time. It's always your choice. Just like it's your conscious choice to buy a sub, use it, ignore what it's trying to do, and then try to say the sub is responsible for why XYZ happened.

Even when the subs work they work because YOU made them work.

Children act like this. It's time to grow up and start taking responsibility for yourself and your choices and actions, Jake. Whether or not you use subs.

You always have an excuse for doing what you really want to do instead of doing what you know you should be doing.

Your actions tell me that you want to be a manual laborer, or work in fast food all your life while you sit around and slack off, never accomplishing anything of real worth and then wondering why nothing ever goes right for you because everyone else and everything else somehow failed you.

I will tell you for a second time.

Stop trying to hide behind everyone and everything else, and grow the hell up. YOU are responsible for your choices and actions. Subliminals are a list of instructions that YOU have to CHOOSE to execute. You are just using them as a weak outward display of "But it's not MY fault that I'm not doing anything, it's THE SUB'S FAULT! It's supposed to be doing this FOR ME!"

At least grow a pair and own your own choices and decisions. And at that point, why bother pretending to try ding anything else? Just sit in a chair all day and drink beer.

When I have a job to do, I don't always want to do it. Like building the same sub over and over and over. MLS or DMSI, for instance.

It gets old. It's frustrating. And part of me is NOT interested in doing it again.

But it gets done anyway. Why? Because consciously, I know that that subconscious part of me doesn't want to do it, but I know consciously that I am responsible for the results regardless. So I consciously choose to do it, and then I DO IT.

That's the difference between children and adults. Adults do what it takes to get what they need and want done. Children do what you are doing.

I didn't have or use UMOP when I was building DMSI all those times. Or MLS. But they got done. All I ever see from you is this same pattern. You buy a sub, and seem to get excited, and then you use it and ignore what it's trying to do, and then complain for ages about how it doesn't work.

Every sub!

So I'll hand it to you, you have a strong will. But a strong will makes your success in life polarize: you'll either have a lot of it, or you'll screw yourself by refusing to do what is necessary to get there.

What's gonna happen when you blow university because you decided "it wasn't worth getting to class"?

You're going to end up without a college degree. And working without one of those means you either have to work for yourself (which you surely will not be able to do if you haven't got self control enough to get anything important done) or you're probably going to end up in retail or foodservice forever.

And hey, if college isn't for you, great. Do your thang. But unless you get this issue solved, you are almost certainly going to screw yourself royally in life, and it's going to continue until one day you have to face the reality that will become more and more bitter every day that YOU did that to yourself, and it's YOUR FAULT. Nobody else's. And the one resource you can't ever get more of is TIME.

So instead of trying to sit and wait for track A, why don't you get off your ass and do something, with or without the sub? Your grocery list isn't going to go grocery shopping for you, it's there to make your shopping easier.

This definitely does not incentivize me to make UMOP A until after I finish DMSI. All you would do is continue this cycle of excuses and hiding, with results I can almost bet on. You need to choose to get off your ass and face your fears. Not run subliminals that you can and do very obviously ignore.

thats not entirely true or the case I feel.

I feel what you're saying here is that if the subs dont work its our fault.

Im achieving my goals but always whenever I am it is at the last minute, due to my heavy procrastination, and thats when i get on with the task at hand and get it done and usually at a high level but this isnt what I want to do. I would prefer to be the guy that doesnt leave the task till the last minute. In this case the task and ONLY goal that I have had this issue with more than any other is studying and has been the case ever since I joined IML.

I however have only been on UMOP for 3 days so far and thus far too early to say whether it will or wont work for me.

I was thinking about track A simply because you brought up investigating my fears consciously to see if there is a root cause and thus perhaps dissolving it I presume in this manner, which is what I have always done and always come with 101 different conclusions as to where all this stems from. Only due to this I wondered whether track A would be best and then realised that rather than again joining the hype and hoping beast 17 or track A will fix me, its best I just continue as I am and see what happens.

Im at the stage where I am relieved I have made it to the 4th year of my degree even though I joined IML at the very start of my 1st year in fear i would perhaps not make it this far on my wit and merit alone but ive managed to albeit not easily and with many many hours and nights of stress.

I however am still hopeful that UMOP 5.5 or a 6G will work on me or perhaps more correctly work with me to utilise its power.

However I cannot accept that I am trying to not make the sub work or that I am choosing to not execute. Im sure everyone here is listening to subs in the hope that we all execute them and for whatever reasons those that arent are at a loss as to how it is our choice not to except that we hope you will get around whatever obstacles we have to make it so.

If I felt my procrastination and my fears were merely something so small that I could simply will myself to overcome I wouldnt be here using subs at all and everyone here wouldnt need subs, from those that do not have confidence to speak to females on 3.2 to those that wish they could overcome phobias and fears on E2. We are all here because we acknowledge 1 way or another that we need help, and for some of us its either to spend money on hypnotherapy and other courses such as PUA etc and waste money that way or we use a seemingly less intrusive form of mind programming such as IML and hope it works.

If it doesnt work then it doesnt and we say well its not working and wait till the next more powerful version comes out.

In IML's defence I can say having a crazy schedule due to university and travelling across time zones as well as being sick and unwell have all played a role in my lack of execution. I have also only these past months realised that what works for you, such as listening via a phone doesnt work for us and this is what you had written whereas I had been told by yourself a year or so ago to not worry whether its on a phone that I play the sub or not.

For this reason I have now invested again in another set of speakers for those times that I fly back to the UK (such as next week) and listen to the subs.

I havent made excuses in not being able to play subs, my lifestyle both in the UK and in europe have made it tricky for me to maintain consistency. There are things in my private life that I choose not to share here on the world wide web for sensible reasons suffice to say I know when im avoiding something and when im not. Avoiding to play the subs has never been the case.

It is the same now and will be until i graduate in 3-4 more years time.

All I can do is what I have always done which is figure a way to get around the problem and then get on with it and thats what im doing now.

All I did say was that im going to remain more composed rather than get on the hype of beast 17 or track A as I have done myself in the past and try and remain steady. This is just another form of enlightened thought that I shared as it dawned on me and perhaps was the power of UMOP bringing me such insights.

Perhaps if you had read this journal from the start of Day 1 on UMOP you would see I am actually doing and getting on with things but unsure if its me and my motivation to get these things done or whether its the sub - not a criticism but an observation and enquiry until more days can be spent on the sub to see if its indeed the sub or not.

I have like many other procrastinators, had bouts of sheer motivation followed by inactivity and so im again being composed about this until more facts are gathered.

I agree that we are all here wherever we are due to our choices in life, whether they be easy or hard choices, whether due to whim or desires and perhaps are all emotionally driven but we are here and we seek support if not help in making changes, and thats why I and others use the subs.

CatMan has gained great success finally from a sub here, and I hope I become the same, a success with UMOP.

Im also not waiting for Track A and never said I was, im only on day 3 of UMOP and im continuing to listen to it and hope I get some results but its too early to say its worked or not. Give it some time Shannon lets see what happens mate.