(11-28-2016, 07:37 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Anything that directly threatens the stability of my family.
If a chick that I'd normally eye-**** grabbed my balls, told me I'm the sexiest man she'd ever seen, and wants to go to my house immediately - and found myself considering the logistics of whether or not I'd get caught, that'd do it.
If, however, I'm in the same situation and feel flattered, but say, "No thanks," easily - I'd continue.
(11-28-2016, 07:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]The reason I have been warning you so much is because of two facts.
1. The goal of the program - when achieved - would result in you only realizing after the fact what had happened, and
2. I don't want to have a hand in damaging your home, marriage, child's life, etc.
So as long as you are willing to test... best wishes. But my goal is directly contradicting yours. And sooner or later, I will achieve my goal.
(11-28-2016, 08:51 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]Those are some strong claims...you make it sound like someone could wake up next to a hottie and then suddenly remember all the crazy fun that happened last night and be like "I don't know how...it just happened".
The hype makes it sound like the v3 branch is lethal!
Even as a sexually experienced single man... that would be astonishing when that happens!!
Especially if you are completely sober during the entire experience...
Alright, guys, quit junkin' up my journal!
Wait so Shannon are you saying that there will come a time in this program's future in which we will no longer have control over our choices and who we have sex with (in a sense- given that they just comply with our idea of an attractive individual of a certain gender) and that it will all be on auto-pilot.
(11-28-2016, 11:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2016, 08:51 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2016, 07:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2016, 07:37 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Anything that directly threatens the stability of my family.
If a chick that I'd normally eye-**** grabbed my balls, told me I'm the sexiest man she'd ever seen, and wants to go to my house immediately - and found myself considering the logistics of whether or not I'd get caught, that'd do it.
If, however, I'm in the same situation and feel flattered, but say, "No thanks," easily - I'd continue.
The reason I have been warning you so much is because of two facts.
1. The goal of the program - when achieved - would result in you only realizing after the fact what had happened, and
2. I don't want to have a hand in damaging your home, marriage, child's life, etc.
So as long as you are willing to test... best wishes. But my goal is directly contradicting yours. And sooner or later, I will achieve my goal.
Those are some strong claims...you make it sound like someone could wake up next to a hottie and then suddenly remember all the crazy fun that happened last night and be like "I don't know how...it just happened".
The hype makes it sound like the v3 branch is lethal!
As I said, it may not be the 3.x branch that achieves that level of power. But eventually it will happen.
And it won't be waking up later and saying you don't know what happened. It will happen, and you will be on full autopilot the whole time, fully willing and finding ways to make it happen... and later you will realize that you were on autopilot and executed the script regardless of what might have been your desires had you not used the program.
(11-29-2016, 02:23 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Wait so Shannon are you saying that there will come a time in this program's future in which we will no longer have control over our choices and who we have sex with (in a sense- given that they just comply with our idea of an attractive individual of a certain gender) and that it will all be on auto-pilot.
(11-28-2016, 11:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2016, 08:51 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2016, 07:47 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (11-28-2016, 07:37 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Anything that directly threatens the stability of my family.
If a chick that I'd normally eye-**** grabbed my balls, told me I'm the sexiest man she'd ever seen, and wants to go to my house immediately - and found myself considering the logistics of whether or not I'd get caught, that'd do it.
If, however, I'm in the same situation and feel flattered, but say, "No thanks," easily - I'd continue.
The reason I have been warning you so much is because of two facts.
1. The goal of the program - when achieved - would result in you only realizing after the fact what had happened, and
2. I don't want to have a hand in damaging your home, marriage, child's life, etc.
So as long as you are willing to test... best wishes. But my goal is directly contradicting yours. And sooner or later, I will achieve my goal.
Those are some strong claims...you make it sound like someone could wake up next to a hottie and then suddenly remember all the crazy fun that happened last night and be like "I don't know how...it just happened".
The hype makes it sound like the v3 branch is lethal!
As I said, it may not be the 3.x branch that achieves that level of power. But eventually it will happen.
And it won't be waking up later and saying you don't know what happened. It will happen, and you will be on full autopilot the whole time, fully willing and finding ways to make it happen... and later you will realize that you were on autopilot and executed the script regardless of what might have been your desires had you not used the program.
The way I see it:
Nope. It is always *you* who is in control, even if you do not have conscious insight into certain aspects of what you might be doing or what exactly is happening, as far as I understand it. It's you who chooses whom you are going to have sex with (even if subconsciously, in part). As I understand it, it will simply make the process and all the steps towards having sex with the person you're attracted to so natural and automatic that it will, in a way, "just happen". And it might seem to be happening "on its own", in a way, to the conscious mind, because the program is designed to prevent all sorts of conscious/subconscious interference in regards to achieving its goals. But it's always you who acts. The act of running and listening the subliminal is testament to that.
Also, there's safety limiters in there, too.
(Probably that's why Shannon needs to implement a legal disclaimer. It'd be very easy to have a sassy lawyer blame him for anything undesirable in retrospect that could possibly happen, going with the *I was not in control of my own actions* defense or somesuch)
Quote:Run the healing/clearing version of V3.0.1 for a month - you'll see how powerful it is (more so, since it's the 3.x branch) for making you clear negative thoughts and beliefs revolving around women. Before DMSI (even after running E2), I walked around craving female validation. Hangups from beliefs and neediness I carried weighed me down more than I knew, and was in great part responsible for many stupid fights I'd have with my wife. DMSI also improved my sex life and frequency with her greatly. She's even initiated sex a few times, which before was unheard of! My anger issues have also greatly diminished, and were detrimental to our relationship.
Cool, good explanation. Definately makes sense. The walking around craving validation is a big one, i'm improved but still definately alot of that.
Alot of my thoughts are still around women and wanting that validation. E2 has dealt with it some, but it may be good to deal with it in a more focused way so I can better deal with other areas in my life. It's not as bad as before but it still seems to overshadow and is way more important in my mind than most other things.
Quote:Having said all that, I hope you board the DMSI train again. I know healing is a top-priority for you. I can say, without doubt, this kind of healing is paramount to any man - dare I say, anyone.
I definately will at some stage but gonna stay with E2 a while longer. Doing a few other things around healing that may interrupt E2 a little bit but are still on the goal but if I do DMSI they will conflict way more with that. So i'm gonna probably do it another few months.
(11-29-2016, 02:23 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: [ -> ]Wait so Shannon are you saying that there will come a time in this program's future in which we will no longer have control over our choices and who we have sex with (in a sense- given that they just comply with our idea of an attractive individual of a certain gender) and that it will all be on auto-pilot.
I'm saying that when the program achieves it's full power potential, it will be able to achieve it's goal. When you start using it, there will be reasons why you need the program to achieve those goals. As long as you don't succeed in resisting, the program will remove those reasons and persuade you to achieve those goals.
Ultimately, you are still making the choice to cooperate. But the job of the script is to be sufficiently capable of achieving it''s goals, that resistance becomes very, very unlikely with enough exposure.
I just don't want people to get the result of the program and then get hurt somehow because they assumed it wouldn't work.
You're still responsible for the choice to run the program, and the choice of how to respond to its instructions.
For instance, in my case, I'm sure responding to the instructions without resistance would be self-talk justifying having sex with whomever I snipe when they respond (and then actually going through with it), where I wouldn't have before.
(11-29-2016, 06:09 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]For instance, in my case, I'm sure responding to the instructions without resistance would be self-talk justifying having sex with whomever I snipe when they respond (and then actually going through with it), where I wouldn't have before.
The goal of the program is... to achieve it's goal.
To accomplish this, it is going to find ways to stop, prevent, bypass and otherwise overcome and get past resistance. That's how it will achieve it's goal.
That's what's so important to understand what's going on when you choose to run it while you're in a relationship.
There won't be resistance in most cases.
just embrace polyamory RT, that'll solve everything.
(11-29-2016, 09:58 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]just embrace polyamory RT, that'll solve everything.
... Steps into Delorian...
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....Steps out of Delorian, having come back from... THE FUTURE!
Great Scott! My aura after running three loops of DMSI 4.2 caused my wife to drool over the same three women I was drooling over! Not only did those women seduce me, but they seduced her WITH me (because *I* wanted *them*) & we had the greatest 4-on-1! It rivaled the orgy in Caligula! After it was done, they all thanked me (wife included) and said, "When can we go again, Master?" Oh, did I mention that the women were my wife's sister, mother, and cousin!? And the best part? All of their husbands dropped them off at my place, then thanked me when they picked them up! AMAAAAZING!
(11-30-2016, 04:59 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ] (11-29-2016, 09:58 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]just embrace polyamory RT, that'll solve everything.
... Steps into Delorian...
.......
.......
.......
....Steps out of Delorian, having come back from... THE FUTURE!
Great Scott! My aura after running three loops of DMSI 4.2 caused my wife to drool over the same three women I was drooling over! Not only did those women seduce me, but they seduced her WITH me (because *I* wanted *them*) & we had the greatest 4-on-1! It rivaled the orgy in Caligula! After it was done, they all thanked me (wife included) and said, "When can we go again, Master?" Oh, did I mention that the women were my wife's sister, mother, and cousin!? And the best part? All of their husbands dropped them off at my place, then thanked me when they picked them up! AMAAAAZING!
I'm going to hold you to that prediction, Mister!
