Thank you for your kind words, Eternity.
I seem to be getting a lot of negativity lately towards me, since I experienced a positive breakthrough for some reason. Nice to see there's still some great positive users here!
Keep up the effort on subs, bud.
negativity serves no purpose unless there's some SOLUTION attached to it.
Stage 4 day 5
I've been asked by two girls if i was okay. Something in my eyes have changed, they said. One of them said my eyes look like i'm taking on too much of other people's sh** and not letting go of things. Yes, I'm going through a lot of stress right now, but I didn't think much of it until I realized just now that there's EYE SEDUCTION in SM3. one of these girls I've known since december of last year, and was a part of the sober living community until may so she's been seeing me grow from a beta to an alpha to a sex magnet, and maybe she didn't know what was going on? IDK this is pure speculation.
Other than that, no real updateworthy comments for now.
side note, i just had dejavu while writing this post.
hey temple, i'm not sure when you started AM6 but I would wait to make your decision until the END of the run, when you've started to see the goals of AM6 manifest in your life. I would also consider your starting point to gauge where you're starting off as a baseline comparison.
Go through the bullet points on the AM6 sales point and make a note of what your level of "mastery" is for each bullet point BEFORE starting the sub and then after finishing the sub, so you know how much you grew. THAT will help you make your decision on what sub to do next.
stage 4 day 8
It's now 11 days since I PMO'ed and things are starting to get interesting. I did a bit of reading on nofap subreddit, and now i see how destructive porn and daily masturbation really are! WOW i never would have guessed.
today while i was at an AA meeting, this plastic blonde lady (probably late 30's early 40's?) decided to sit right next to me. I didn't find her particularly attractive, but if I'm being completely honest, her plastic-ed up face made it very easy to objectify her in my mind. Her lips kind of stuck outwards in a really weird way but i just thought it's already pre-shaped to suck a dick lol. i figured that since stage 4 is introducing women to start seducing me, I give it a shot and I struck up a conversation. We just talked about simple shit, like how long we've been sober, career, etc. She was on her phone pretty much the whole meeting, but every few minutes I noticed her head was reeaaally close to my head lmao. it was almost creepy. after the meeting, my friend who was sitting across the room commented about how that lady was "hovering over" me. she asked me for a cigarette, i giver her one and jokingly say "when are you give it back back?" She replies "uhhh? i dont' know? will you be here tomorrow?" I say "i'm just messing with you, haha" and we went about our separate ways.
It's starting to become so second nature to be surrounded by girls, that it's REAL easy to forget that it has not always been like this. I find myself hugging girls for up to 30 seconds, and they love to linger around me, the younger ones especially (18-22). also one of the girls i mentioned in a previous post, 9/10 girl was talking to my buddy, and he asks why she doesn't have his phone number. she politely rejected him, then looked at me and said "i call and text you all the time!". and then walks away and says "see you saturday" to me, while my buddy is DUMBFOUNDED.
This must be a dream, because this is not supposed to be happening to me. my track record says i am not a desirable male. or at least my thought pattern, actions, and fears say that. i haven't gotten laid yet, but it's cumming soon.
Plus 11 days of nofap no porn no orgasm is REALLY starting to push the envelope in a new direction, and it's TORTURE! pure physical torture! I get slightly erect just from a girl touching me, it's ridiculous. but i like it, and i want more.
(10-21-2015, 09:31 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]stage 4 day 8
It's now 11 days since I PMO'ed and things are starting to get interesting. I did a bit of reading on nofap subreddit, and now i see how destructive porn and daily masturbation really are! WOW i never would have guessed.
...
Plus 11 days of nofap no porn no orgasm is REALLY starting to push the envelope in a new direction, and it's TORTURE! pure physical torture! I get slightly erect just from a girl touching me, it's ridiculous. but i like it, and i want more.
I have to be honest. I was able to easily cut out porn from my life after watching ONE video from Dr. Gary Nelson about how disastrous it is to the mind. And it's likely a very big reason why I've been so screwed up with girls for so long. That and masturbation.
The problem is, while I easily cut out the porn, I am finding the masturbation a chronic habit of daily, sometimes a few times daily. So, while I don't seem to need the OPA sub, I may need to consider the Stop Masturbation sub still. I've toyed with the idea of that sub since it came out, looks like it may be needed. I'm envious of guys having reports of having epic sexual energy with women and how they feel relaxed and anxiety free etc. It's probably time that habit went bye bye lol. Plus, I'm sure a real-life, beautiful woman is far better haha
. It sounds like going nofap somehow affects your attractiveness? I'm skeptical, but hey, I'm so happy for you man! Great job on the nofap. I'll likely need the sub to accomplish that feat!
Keep up the great progress on SM3. I'm so jelly of how well it's going for you lol. My run is done in 3 days and it's been a disappointment to say the least.
(10-22-2015, 03:08 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-21-2015, 09:31 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]stage 4 day 8
It's now 11 days since I PMO'ed and things are starting to get interesting. I did a bit of reading on nofap subreddit, and now i see how destructive porn and daily masturbation really are! WOW i never would have guessed.
...
Plus 11 days of nofap no porn no orgasm is REALLY starting to push the envelope in a new direction, and it's TORTURE! pure physical torture! I get slightly erect just from a girl touching me, it's ridiculous. but i like it, and i want more.
I have to be honest. I was able to easily cut out porn from my life after watching ONE video from Dr. Gary Nelson about how disastrous it is to the mind. And it's likely a very big reason why I've been so screwed up with girls for so long. That and masturbation.
The problem is, while I easily cut out the porn, I am finding the masturbation a chronic habit of daily, sometimes a few times daily. So, while I don't seem to need the OPA sub, I may need to consider the Stop Masturbation sub still. I've toyed with the idea of that sub since it came out, looks like it may be needed. I'm envious of guys having reports of having epic sexual energy with women and how they feel relaxed and anxiety free etc. It's probably time that habit went bye bye lol. Plus, I'm sure a real-life, beautiful woman is far better haha . It sounds like going nofap somehow affects your attractiveness? I'm skeptical, but hey, I'm so happy for you man! Great job on the nofap. I'll likely need the sub to accomplish that feat!
Keep up the great progress on SM3. I'm so jelly of how well it's going for you lol. My run is done in 3 days and it's been a disappointment to say the least.
idk man, i have experience giving up physically and psychologically addictive substances like IV heroin and IV meth, so quitting porn and masturbation
IS a cakewalk in comparison, at least from MY perspective. so hopefully you're not too hard on yourself for being addicted to masturbating (i don't find the term "habit" fitting. it's a straight up addiction). I GUARANTEE you that once your orgone battery starts filling up, you'll start seeing crazy changes, especially after around the 5th day. But you need to occupy your time pretty well, and being at home is the worst place because relapse is almost inevitable. I find myself wanting to isolate, and then I feel the urge to fap come on and I immediately leave and go be around others (I live in a house of 20 people so that's easy for me).
see the attachments for a conversation i saw on reddit in the nofap section, between a guy and a girl.
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heheheehhehehe lego's 4 frostedfake
(10-22-2015, 03:08 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-21-2015, 09:31 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]stage 4 day 8
It's now 11 days since I PMO'ed and things are starting to get interesting. I did a bit of reading on nofap subreddit, and now i see how destructive porn and daily masturbation really are! WOW i never would have guessed.
...
Plus 11 days of nofap no porn no orgasm is REALLY starting to push the envelope in a new direction, and it's TORTURE! pure physical torture! I get slightly erect just from a girl touching me, it's ridiculous. but i like it, and i want more.
I have to be honest. I was able to easily cut out porn from my life after watching ONE video from Dr. Gary Nelson about how disastrous it is to the mind. And it's likely a very big reason why I've been so screwed up with girls for so long. That and masturbation.
The problem is, while I easily cut out the porn, I am finding the masturbation a chronic habit of daily, sometimes a few times daily. So, while I don't seem to need the OPA sub, I may need to consider the Stop Masturbation sub still. I've toyed with the idea of that sub since it came out, looks like it may be needed. I'm envious of guys having reports of having epic sexual energy with women and how they feel relaxed and anxiety free etc. It's probably time that habit went bye bye lol. Plus, I'm sure a real-life, beautiful woman is far better haha . It sounds like going nofap somehow affects your attractiveness? I'm skeptical, but hey, I'm so happy for you man! Great job on the nofap. I'll likely need the sub to accomplish that feat!
Keep up the great progress on SM3. I'm so jelly of how well it's going for you lol. My run is done in 3 days and it's been a disappointment to say the least.
Oh wow, definitely quit fapping too. Fapping and porn are deeply interconnected for us porn users. I don't know if you read Dr. Nelson's forum that he made (yourbrainrebalanced), but it's common knowledge that quitting porn without quitting fapping isn't enough to recover from the negative effects (both physical and emotional subconscious). People have tried doing a "scheduled fap" or something like that during recovery where they fap once a week, but it never worked or people, and was always detrimental. This was the case for me when I tried it. Keeping the habit of fapping a few times daily would be hugely detrimental.
Also, don't use "porn substitutes" like bikini pics, browsing facebook pictures of hot girls, or even erotic audio of any kind. You pretty much have to cut out all "artificial sexual stimulation", which means everything (porn, fapping, bikini pics,etc) except for sex with another human.
Quote:edit: new people are gonna show up to this forum and be like "why are there legos everywhere?"
Haha I only got a few people to do it but now it's evolving without my participation
I've created a monster.
(10-22-2015, 07:30 AM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2015, 03:08 AM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ] (10-21-2015, 09:31 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]stage 4 day 8
It's now 11 days since I PMO'ed and things are starting to get interesting. I did a bit of reading on nofap subreddit, and now i see how destructive porn and daily masturbation really are! WOW i never would have guessed.
...
Plus 11 days of nofap no porn no orgasm is REALLY starting to push the envelope in a new direction, and it's TORTURE! pure physical torture! I get slightly erect just from a girl touching me, it's ridiculous. but i like it, and i want more.
I have to be honest. I was able to easily cut out porn from my life after watching ONE video from Dr. Gary Nelson about how disastrous it is to the mind. And it's likely a very big reason why I've been so screwed up with girls for so long. That and masturbation.
The problem is, while I easily cut out the porn, I am finding the masturbation a chronic habit of daily, sometimes a few times daily. So, while I don't seem to need the OPA sub, I may need to consider the Stop Masturbation sub still. I've toyed with the idea of that sub since it came out, looks like it may be needed. I'm envious of guys having reports of having epic sexual energy with women and how they feel relaxed and anxiety free etc. It's probably time that habit went bye bye lol. Plus, I'm sure a real-life, beautiful woman is far better haha . It sounds like going nofap somehow affects your attractiveness? I'm skeptical, but hey, I'm so happy for you man! Great job on the nofap. I'll likely need the sub to accomplish that feat!
Keep up the great progress on SM3. I'm so jelly of how well it's going for you lol. My run is done in 3 days and it's been a disappointment to say the least.
idk man, i have experience giving up physically and psychologically addictive substances like IV heroin and IV meth, so quitting porn and masturbation IS a cakewalk in comparison, at least from MY perspective. so hopefully you're not too hard on yourself for being addicted to masturbating (i don't find the term "habit" fitting. it's a straight up addiction). I GUARANTEE you that once your orgone battery starts filling up, you'll start seeing crazy changes, especially after around the 5th day. But you need to occupy your time pretty well, and being at home is the worst place because relapse is almost inevitable. I find myself wanting to isolate, and then I feel the urge to fap come on and I immediately leave and go be around others (I live in a house of 20 people so that's easy for me).
see the attachments for a conversation i saw on reddit in the nofap section, between a guy and a girl.
There is merit to no fap. I tried it when I was interested in Taoist sexuality via The Multi Orgasmic Male. Spent a few months fapping every 5th day. You do feel that sexual energy coursing through your body. Apparently women pick up on the heightened testosterone. There's also a cool effect where your horniness overpowers your inhibitions. The downside is that you will nut pretty fast.
That said, I'm on an edging routine to improve my ejaculation control. Masturbation is the very nature of this training.
In theory, there is to be no porn, no fantasies during training, and no fap outside of training, which can be done 4-5 days a week. It is encouraged to release at the end of each training session, as not doing so can lead to serious blue balls.
In practice, I still sometimes look at porn, masturbate outside of training (impulsively), and train 3 days per week on average. I do release at the end of each session, and it feels like I've earned that orgasm.
I would love to write at length about the program and my development, but that doesn't belong here.
Bottom line is this: no fap does not agree with an edging routine unless you want the nastiest of blue balls i.e feels like you got punched in the nuts
What the hell is blue balls. I used to edge a ton, NEVER EVER felt any phenomenon described as blue balls.
Also, edging (masturbating without ejaculating) can be worse for recovery than just fapping fast and being done with it, because you're bathing your brain in those chemicals through the act that your brain is oversensitized to (addicted to), which is porn/fap/artificial sexual stimulation.
god dangit man, every single day i've been saying something that's really getting me into trouble! I've been coming off as sarcastic, rude, sideways, etc. and people around me are REALLY not liking it! NEITHER AM I! I want to shut myself off from everyone and just be silent, to avoid risking hurting people. I'm being insensitive and arrogant, and it's not even because I'm trying to be. I've been really stressed out lately, and it kind of sucks when you live at the place you work, since work never stops and "having a life" separate from work is a big feat. I am pretty sure I'm burned out. I had an hour long conversation with my mentor about some stuff and I feel pretty OK about it now, but I'm teetering on the edge of life at this point, an explosion waiting to happen.
Could it be that SM3 is changing the way I communicate? I was reading my posts in my AM6 thread after posting the legotroll, and I noticed my posting style is a lot different than it is now. I even mentioned a premonition of how SM3 might change the way I communicate lol. I mean it's not like I stopped giving a FU** about people around me, I'm not a rude person by nature. And it's definitely not alpha to be taking verbal shots at people the way I have been lately. Either SM3 is working on something sex related, or something is being resisted. Maybe all this shit is just refining my communication skills. I'm tired of these confrontations though. It's really stressful, and at the end of the day I know it's a GROWING EXPERIENCE, but it freaking SUCKS when your closest friends call you out for being an insensitive asshole to them out of nowhere, and then telling me to take a look at myself because I'm lashing out.
ORRRR i just had a thought! maybe i'm not channeling my sexual energy in a constructive manner! I noticed I can stay up a lot later at night, and I don't need a nap during the day anymore. My energy levels are a lot higher for the past couple days as well.
another thought could be all this pent up testosterone having nowhere to go. i remember my buddy who does MMA fighting would "strategically bust a nut" (his exact words lmao) to get ready for his next fight and maximize the amount of testosterone in his system.
One thing i'm really worried about though is blowing my entire load prematurely and embarassing the shit out of myself in front of the (un)lucky girl who helps me wet my dry spell
also, does anyone know about this dejavu phenomena? I've been having CRAZY DEJAVU during SM3! I swear up and down to my friends that I told them about a dream I had where what I'm doing right that second and I had told my friends about that dream!
Sounds like it's a needed phase. I've had similar phases with AM6, like i'll start expressing unpopular opinions.. though it's not so much that i'm becoming an asshole as expressing things I already thought but wasn't expressing before due to fear or whatever.
It sounds like it's training you to be more expressive, at first it's a little rocky and then you learn how to balance it out. I think it's an important part of learning not to give a fuck about peoples opinion, but that it will balance out to where it needs to be.
It's not always such a bad thing if you blow early with a girl, if you don't worry about it or really even acknowledge it at the time (e.g don't be like "oh my god i'm so sorry") then they don't usually care, then you can recover and go again and last longer after that. I tend to get pent up and i've accepted now that the first time I have sex for the night it's a bit quicker but each time I last longer after that.