to answer you frosted, i first of all must say that NO, girls have NOT talked like this to me before. this is completely new to me. second, i've had VERY minimal experience with girls. I've had only 1 real "relationship" worth calling a relationship, which was also my last one -- 5 years ago.
We have a couple stray cats at our sober community, of which I love more than any of the people around here (LOL); I'm perceived as the CatMan of our community... not to steal the thunder of the real CatMan on here
Dissonance, here you go. There's more but there's a lot of personal communication back and forth..... this girl literally just ended her engagement a couple weeks ago, and her ex fiance is a close friend of mine. so the weird thing is that she's already with some other dude, and she's macking on me (and a few other guys too, let THAT be known now).
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stage 3 day 31
i had a dream today while taking a nap. i don't see how it's connected with SM.
i deleted the images and chats for anonymity purposes, if anyone wants to see them going forward, send me a PM.
I'm excited to start stage 4 tomorrow. let's see how the 4th stage works its magic
yeah dude i dreamt that i was at a starbucks in the ghetto, and they had vicks vaporub on display that said "come smell our product! unless you're drunk, high, or on speed"
and then i saw one of my friends at the starbucks had a carton of chinese cigarettes, and i saw that the price for a pack was $2.99 and asked him where he got it, and he said "counter fair".
So me and a buddy roll up to this Counter Fair store and my buddy goes and sits at a slot machine. I see my friend posted up in a corner, holding speakers in both hands (he sells speakers in real life). I say "HEY [friend's name]" and he mumbles "dammit you ruined my cover. I was stealing something" and storms out of the store.
Then I see the cigarettes section, but my buddy who was at the slot machine was like "OH SHIT I OWE THE MACHINE $1000" and ran out the store so I went and caught up with him. When we got out of the store, I was all of a sudden in a park, with a guy friend and two girls. I was riding a skateboard through the flowerbed in a park and this azn maintenance man was like "ooo he ruinin mai flowa"
then the dream ended...
no idea how it could possibly be connected to anything SM3 related.
BTW I just started stage 4 a couple hours ago.
Keep in mind OGSF is in every stage (and OAA is in stages 1-3, 5), so dreams don't have to coincide with SM3's script itself. I'm the biggest expert EVER on this, as all I've done is spam OGSF dreams for months sadly lol.
Those visions, definitely sound like GSF, particularily fear imo.
All part of the process man.
JUST DON'T RUIN THE DAMN FLOWERS, BRO!!!!
(10-16-2015, 02:26 PM)CatMan Wrote: [ -> ]Keep in mind OGSF is in every stage (and OAA is in stages 1-3, 5)
Do you have a link to any posts where SM is laid out as to what programs (ie OAA in stages 1-3, 5) are contained in which stages, stage-by-stage? I think I've seen one for AM6, if I recall correctly.
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BASE 2.1's page is done amazingly well and is fully detailed and describes exactly which program is in there and what stage. I wish the others were as detailed, I LOVED reading that page and I'm not even doing BASE 2.1 lol, awesome read, very impressive looking program. SM3's page has which programs, but finding out which ones in what stages I've learned by Shannon randomly posting about it when asked about things.
On AM6, EHPRA 1.0, and OGSF are in every stage. Seek The Challenge is in there too, but I'm not sure what stage(s). There seems to be a form of DAOS, but I don't know if it's that actual program, or just elements of it formed a different way.
stage 4 day 2
I went out to a bar with a couple other sober friends to see the performance of an electronic artist. It sucked. the bar scene is not fun when you're sober. There were a few super hot girls with some good looking alpha's (no homo), and this is HUGE because I actually didn't RESENT these guys for being with super hot girls. The old me saw this as a threat and put me on the defense internally. But now, it was like "meh"; it was no big deal. I guess I'm seeing these super hot girls as more attainable to me now.
I doubt it has anything to do with stage 4... I just finally got a chance to test being out in "public" for once. my friends say there was this one dude who was giving me the death stare all night, even though I never made eye contact with him. I wonder what he wanted from me?
BY THE WAY, since we're speaking of OGSF, I highly recommend anyone reading this to make a list of everything they fear. whether it be rational or irrational. I made a list of a lot of my fears, identified the cause, and identified what areas of my life it affected. I then proceeded to ask my higher power for help me with those fears, but since this topic is not allowed here i'll leave it at that. but exposing my fears allowed me to be aware of them, so I can know my strengths and weaknesses. For example, i have a fear of success AND a fear of failure; I realized that my mind entertains "no man's land", which leaves motivation at a standstill. I'm afraid of failing, so why try at anything? nobody will expnect anything of me if i'm at the bottom. I'm afraid of success, because it means I will have responsibilities, and I will have to do work... And then I'll have to be accountable to myself and most likely others.
I'm afraid of never having the girl, and also afraid of getting the girl. A catch 22 which makes NO sense and allows NO room for growth. DETRIMENTAL.
A lot of my fears are irrational and by taking a personal inventory, I can do some housecleaning and figure out where I have excess garbage. After identifying the garbage, I can proceed to dispose of it, and I'm sure the subs will have a much easier time if the conscious and the subconscious are in line with each other in that regard.
As far as guilt and shame, I don't really have any of that so it seems. I can talk about really sensitive subjects with ease. I don't feel the overwhelming heartache over the past when I think of my darkest moments. This will be 10 months of OGSF via AM6 and SM3, so I'm probably clear of all that.
****
now onto more relevant matters. I've been texting that LTR material girl every day, and we exchange texts and phone calls all day every day. We're going camping with a group next weekend, and then going out of town together with a different group the weekend after for a minivacation. I'm REALLY into her! The only weidr thing is that when I'm around her, I get all emotional and it becomes difficult to talk to her, and i just get lost in all the attraction. It's so new to me, but I feel like I did when I had my high school crushes. I'm experiencing this for the first time sober, and I realize I'm changing the way I feel through her. All this talk about her makes it seem like I'm putting her up on a pedestal, huh? Well, she's someone I genuinely find attractive at her core. I don't have trouble flirting with hotter looking girls, which is so surface level so this one is different.
I love being constantly horny. When I close my eyes, I can almost envision my sexual energy encompassing girls. I feel like my erections are stiffer lately, but i'm not sure if that's an effect of the program or by not masturbating as often. And I'll have erections in the middle of the day, just by thinking of girls!!! i like this massive sex drive. I DONT like not having a (few) fuq buddy(s).
tl;dr
- i'm becoming more comfortable with being in my own skin
- i'm super attracted to one girl
- i feel clearer of fears
- mass horniness
Well, you're definitely getting effects from the sub. Just watch that onenitis, sometimes it can creep up on you. Keep yourself talking to other hot girls in the meantime to try to balance it out.
I'm glad your run is definitely paying dividends. I'll be done my run in several days, I'm glad it'll finally be over. It's been brutal, very disappointing.
Anyway, keep going and keep up the excellent work. I'm glad for you, man!
(10-17-2015, 11:42 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]stage 4 day 2
I went out to a bar with a couple other sober friends to see the performance of an electronic artist. It sucked. the bar scene is not fun when you're sober. There were a few super hot girls with some good looking alpha's (no homo), and this is HUGE because I actually didn't RESENT these guys for being with super hot girls. The old me saw this as a threat and put me on the defense internally. But now, it was like "meh"; it was no big deal. I guess I'm seeing these super hot girls as more attainable to me now.
I doubt it has anything to do with stage 4... I just finally got a chance to test being out in "public" for once. my friends say there was this one dude who was giving me the death stare all night, even though I never made eye contact with him. I wonder what he wanted from me?
BY THE WAY, since we're speaking of OGSF, I highly recommend anyone reading this to make a list of everything they fear. whether it be rational or irrational. I made a list of a lot of my fears, identified the cause, and identified what areas of my life it affected. I then proceeded to ask my higher power for help me with those fears, but since this topic is not allowed here i'll leave it at that. but exposing my fears allowed me to be aware of them, so I can know my strengths and weaknesses. For example, i have a fear of success AND a fear of failure; I realized that my mind entertains "no man's land", which leaves motivation at a standstill. I'm afraid of failing, so why try at anything? nobody will expnect anything of me if i'm at the bottom. I'm afraid of success, because it means I will have responsibilities, and I will have to do work... And then I'll have to be accountable to myself and most likely others.
I'm afraid of never having the girl, and also afraid of getting the girl. A catch 22 which makes NO sense and allows NO room for growth. DETRIMENTAL.
A lot of my fears are irrational and by taking a personal inventory, I can do some housecleaning and figure out where I have excess garbage. After identifying the garbage, I can proceed to dispose of it, and I'm sure the subs will have a much easier time if the conscious and the subconscious are in line with each other in that regard.
As far as guilt and shame, I don't really have any of that so it seems. I can talk about really sensitive subjects with ease. I don't feel the overwhelming heartache over the past when I think of my darkest moments. This will be 10 months of OGSF via AM6 and SM3, so I'm probably clear of all that.
****
now onto more relevant matters. I've been texting that LTR material girl every day, and we exchange texts and phone calls all day every day. We're going camping with a group next weekend, and then going out of town together with a different group the weekend after for a minivacation. I'm REALLY into her! The only weidr thing is that when I'm around her, I get all emotional and it becomes difficult to talk to her, and i just get lost in all the attraction. It's so new to me, but I feel like I did when I had my high school crushes. I'm experiencing this for the first time sober, and I realize I'm changing the way I feel through her. All this talk about her makes it seem like I'm putting her up on a pedestal, huh? Well, she's someone I genuinely find attractive at her core. I don't have trouble flirting with hotter looking girls, which is so surface level so this one is different.
I love being constantly horny. When I close my eyes, I can almost envision my sexual energy encompassing girls. I feel like my erections are stiffer lately, but i'm not sure if that's an effect of the program or by not masturbating as often. And I'll have erections in the middle of the day, just by thinking of girls!!! i like this massive sex drive. I DONT like not having a (few) fuq buddy(s).
tl;dr
- i'm becoming more comfortable with being in my own skin
- i'm super attracted to one girl
- i feel clearer of fears
- mass horniness
Most definitely it's the no fapping that is giving you more and better erections.
(10-17-2015, 11:42 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]I'm afraid of never having the girl, and also afraid of getting the girl. A catch 22 which makes NO sense and allows NO room for growth. DETRIMENTAL.
I've found that when I have a similar feeling it's actually "I'm afraid if I get the girl she will turn out to be fake, not the girl I initially thought I was getting." It's about unrealistic expectations and putting girls (or a particular girl/one-itis) on a pedestal.
I'm more afraid that if she turns out to be fake and/or sh!tty that it reflects on me that I have poor taste, attract sh!tty girls, and/or am attracted to sh!tty girls, etc.
That's how I feel about my one-itis, that I know a lot of her flaws and I'm more worried that my attraction to her is some indication of me having bad taste or low standards or something.
(10-18-2015, 10:07 AM)FrostedFake Wrote: [ -> ] (10-18-2015, 09:20 AM)dissonance Wrote: [ -> ] (10-17-2015, 11:42 PM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]stage 4 day 2
I went out to a bar with a couple other sober friends to see the performance of an electronic artist. It sucked. the bar scene is not fun when you're sober. There were a few super hot girls with some good looking alpha's (no homo), and this is HUGE because I actually didn't RESENT these guys for being with super hot girls. The old me saw this as a threat and put me on the defense internally. But now, it was like "meh"; it was no big deal. I guess I'm seeing these super hot girls as more attainable to me now.
I doubt it has anything to do with stage 4... I just finally got a chance to test being out in "public" for once. my friends say there was this one dude who was giving me the death stare all night, even though I never made eye contact with him. I wonder what he wanted from me?
BY THE WAY, since we're speaking of OGSF, I highly recommend anyone reading this to make a list of everything they fear. whether it be rational or irrational. I made a list of a lot of my fears, identified the cause, and identified what areas of my life it affected. I then proceeded to ask my higher power for help me with those fears, but since this topic is not allowed here i'll leave it at that. but exposing my fears allowed me to be aware of them, so I can know my strengths and weaknesses. For example, i have a fear of success AND a fear of failure; I realized that my mind entertains "no man's land", which leaves motivation at a standstill. I'm afraid of failing, so why try at anything? nobody will expnect anything of me if i'm at the bottom. I'm afraid of success, because it means I will have responsibilities, and I will have to do work... And then I'll have to be accountable to myself and most likely others.
I'm afraid of never having the girl, and also afraid of getting the girl. A catch 22 which makes NO sense and allows NO room for growth. DETRIMENTAL.
A lot of my fears are irrational and by taking a personal inventory, I can do some housecleaning and figure out where I have excess garbage. After identifying the garbage, I can proceed to dispose of it, and I'm sure the subs will have a much easier time if the conscious and the subconscious are in line with each other in that regard.
As far as guilt and shame, I don't really have any of that so it seems. I can talk about really sensitive subjects with ease. I don't feel the overwhelming heartache over the past when I think of my darkest moments. This will be 10 months of OGSF via AM6 and SM3, so I'm probably clear of all that.
****
now onto more relevant matters. I've been texting that LTR material girl every day, and we exchange texts and phone calls all day every day. We're going camping with a group next weekend, and then going out of town together with a different group the weekend after for a minivacation. I'm REALLY into her! The only weidr thing is that when I'm around her, I get all emotional and it becomes difficult to talk to her, and i just get lost in all the attraction. It's so new to me, but I feel like I did when I had my high school crushes. I'm experiencing this for the first time sober, and I realize I'm changing the way I feel through her. All this talk about her makes it seem like I'm putting her up on a pedestal, huh? Well, she's someone I genuinely find attractive at her core. I don't have trouble flirting with hotter looking girls, which is so surface level so this one is different.
I love being constantly horny. When I close my eyes, I can almost envision my sexual energy encompassing girls. I feel like my erections are stiffer lately, but i'm not sure if that's an effect of the program or by not masturbating as often. And I'll have erections in the middle of the day, just by thinking of girls!!! i like this massive sex drive. I DONT like not having a (few) fuq buddy(s).
tl;dr
- i'm becoming more comfortable with being in my own skin
- i'm super attracted to one girl
- i feel clearer of fears
- mass horniness
Most definitely it's the no fapping that is giving you more and better erections.
Idk man... earlier he said that when he took a shit he came a little and that it never happened to him before the sub... I think its a mixture of both.
I meant it's both. But that no-fap is a big part for sure. It's a documented effect of no-fap. Combine that with the power of Shannon's subs, and you've got super-cock
eternity, did your AM6 programming start executing stronger AFTER it ended, and while you were in your SM3 run? If so, what evidence or happenings make you think that?
I'm jus asking because it's an interesting theory Catman posted in his journal. And also because I'm trying to decide if I wanna do SM3 or AM6 again after my current AM6. I'm like 2 weeks from finishing. Catman talks about his theory in post #604 in his journal, page 31.
hey dissonance, I believe that's the case for sure. I even had moments during the first couple weeks of SM3 where I was SURE my mind was executing the AM6 programming. I've theorized this on my own myself based on my experience.
His eloquently written post also touches on "download mode", which for catman has been 21 hours a day. I found my sweet spot to be APPROX 17 hours +/- 1 hr , but i have not found this out in a scientific way by any means. I just have a feeling that's my sweet spot. I do agree with his theory, and I have posted it in this forum in some thread... But when you're in "download mode" a.k.a. inputting info, you're not able to output behavior; i.e, exhibit changes the sub is trying to bring about in you. So when you're constantly in input mode or "download mode", the output process will be pushed back until the sub or stage is done, whichever the case may be (catman may be onto something regarding the diff between AM6 vs SM3).
Every once in a while, maybe once per stage I sleep without subs for the night, just to give more time for output.
So considering my AM6 hours being 20 hrs a day, I still was able to notice the program's goals being fulfilled at about stage 5, and I felt solid about the results after the run. And then all the rebound growth that I wasn't able to output in 4 hours per day hit me like a train when I finished the program, but the challenges of SM3's programming kind of twisted and challenged me in a different direction.
I kind of hit on a few different points so far, I hope I didn't lose you. I feel like I kind of rambled aimlessly, and part of this is a response to catman's journal entry and partly in response to your question dissonance.
As far as wondering whether to run AM6 or SM3 next, I'll share with you my experience.
Being at stage 4 of SM3, I still haven't regretted my decision to do SM3 after only 1 run of AM6, but I do feel I OWNED the bullet points as they are stated on the sales page. Not at a 10/10 level, but at least at 8/10 for most items.
The drawback is that I can sometimes get into a state of being where I question myself, or lose confidence in myself that phases in and out occasionally. I'm pretty sure a second run of AM6 would have cleared that up. I have ALSO noticed my AM6 results might be diminishing.... I stated it in a previous entry last week or so, where I'm feeling the impermanence of 1 run of AM6. However, this drawback is countered because SM3 is giving me new challenges to face and work on, especially in regards to social interactions. I make a fool out of myself a lot, but they are just ripe opportunities for AM6 to work on in its next round... which by the way, I plan on running again after this run of SM3.
So if you're up for the challenge, I don't see the harm of taking the plunge into SM3 after your first run of AM6. Perhaps you can ask benjamin his reasoning for running AM6 back to back instead of going to SM3, he'll give you his experience on that side of the street... which i honestly would like to hear also.
hope this helps