(09-05-2014, 07:09 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Don't forget that many women have a 'default bitch face' :) It doesn't mean it is anything to do with you, they just have a serious/harsh normal expression (same for men of course) and they are probably entirely unaware that they are walking around frowning at people.
Yeah, you're probably right. I've just been so insecure during those seconds that its been like a kick in the balls :D
Anyway, I found a flaw in my step-by-step method... tried it for the 2nd time now and all I got was extremely horny. Shit, lol. Well ok, there is still some anxiousness, but the horniness gets so heavy it gets buried under it. Its like I explode a little bit inside if I lock eyes with some hottie. When I went to get some take-out tee, the waiter seemed pretty much uninterested and would only glance at me briefly.. but then I had the feeling she was looking at me a lot from the side when getting the water and the cup I got was about half bigger than its ever been, so..
Well, I'll try to find something negative about it & clear it. Or at least run a positive track. I'll be going out tonight anyway. Maybe I should also start holding eye contact with guys and everyone just to get the insecurities cleared.. don't really want to, but I might.
(09-05-2014, 05:49 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]btw, I don't have a brother so that's someone else 
I meant it more hypothetically for people reading your journal, not directed at you
Quote:hmm, you may have a point. Though depression by itself isn't really empowering, I usually feel like I want to stop the whole thing and "accept my place"?
Depression never comes alone. It is just the low that is caused by the high of anxiety. If you clear anxiety your depression should be cleared as well. But if you clear your depression first, you don't give your body the regeneration it needs from the anxiety overdrive. Same reason why coke users get depression, but instead of anxiety they put their body in other ways on overdrive.
Quote:Well ok, there is still some anxiousness, but the horniness gets so heavy it gets buried under it. Its like I explode a little bit inside if I lock eyes with some hottie
haha the horniness begins! Let the might of horniness fuel you until it is harder to prevent yourself from getting your "prey" than it is to actually get it.
(09-05-2014, 08:26 AM)athanas Wrote: [ -> ]Depression never comes alone. It is just the low that is caused by the high of anxiety. If you clear anxiety your depression should be cleared as well. But if you clear your depression first, you don't give your body the regeneration it needs from the anxiety overdrive. Same reason why coke users get depression, but instead of anxiety they put their body in other ways on overdrive.
Very interesting point of view. Depression is very hard for me to clear anyway, because there isn't really any 1 strong feeling that I could focus on, its more like a heavy cloud over everything... which would make sense from what you're saying, if the body is down regulating, regenerating.
Anyway, I found the anxious feelings after all that horniness subsided and ran some click tracks. Got a huge, laughing release from them this time. This has been a huge block for me, so I'm really glad its getting handled :)
(09-05-2014, 07:22 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, you're probably right. I've just been so insecure during those seconds that its been like a kick in the balls 
Anyway, I found a flaw in my step-by-step method... tried it for the 2nd time now and all I got was extremely horny. Shit, lol. Well ok, there is still some anxiousness, but the horniness gets so heavy it gets buried under it. Its like I explode a little bit inside if I lock eyes with some hottie. When I went to get some take-out tee, the waiter seemed pretty much uninterested and would only glance at me briefly.. but then I had the feeling she was looking at me a lot from the side when getting the water and the cup I got was about half bigger than its ever been, so..
Well, I'll try to find something negative about it & clear it. Or at least run a positive track. I'll be going out tonight anyway. Maybe I should also start holding eye contact with guys and everyone just to get the insecurities cleared.. don't really want to, but I might.
Isn't this a good thing? I remember we discussed about holding strong eye contact while being in a sexual state is good for seduction. I think RSD calls this "State Transference". Maybe you should utilize this feeling in a productive way.
(09-05-2014, 10:23 AM)guilotine Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2014, 07:22 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]and all I got was extremely horny.
Isn't this a good thing? I remember we discussed about holding strong eye contact while being in a sexual state is good for seduction. I think RSD calls this "State Transference". Maybe you should utilize this feeling in a productive way.
It is, very good! You missed the sarcasm / I forgot to put in a winkey smiley. "Damn, I could find those pesky anxieties, because they got buried under all this "I'm a sex god" greatness" ;) Yesterday I was all tensed up, but after clearing some of that anxiety, today there was room for me to relax and for that horniness to come up. And I cleared some anxiety today as well. And now I'm off, good evening Gentlemen!
(09-05-2014, 05:49 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]athanas - yep, I'm being somewhat selective about it. I read Tim's book on pstec and sexual issues and he seemed very cautious towards clearing (deleting) sexual desire and attraction. And I want my desire to be very high, for reasons mentioned on the Bed mastery thread.
Damn, really? I went and cleared a HUGE horny desire I had from porn just the other day. Guess I'll see where it gets me. >>
(09-05-2014, 03:46 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Damn, really? I went and cleared a HUGE horny desire I had from porn just the other day. Guess I'll see where it gets me. >>
Theres a book about PSTEC targeted to clearing sexual urges specifically. You definately should look that up. It says if properly used it can cure almost any sexual dysfunction, from bed performance anxiety, to Impotence, to Paraphilia down to Premature Ejaculation and Addiction.
If used improperly, you could lose your sex drive and attraction, arousal to anything whether conditioned or "born with". That's how powerful PSTEC is... you have to be careful not to clear the sub away.
(09-05-2014, 05:30 PM)athanas Wrote: [ -> ] (09-05-2014, 03:46 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Damn, really? I went and cleared a HUGE horny desire I had from porn just the other day. Guess I'll see where it gets me. >>
Theres a book about PSTEC targeted to clearing sexual urges specifically. You definately should look that up. It says if properly used it can cure almost any sexual dysfunction, from bed performance anxiety, to Impotence, to Paraphilia down to Premature Ejaculation and Addiction.
If used improperly, you could lose your sex drive and attraction, arousal to anything whether conditioned or "born with". That's how powerful PSTEC is... you have to be careful not to clear the sub away.
Jesus f*ck. Clearing away sexual desire, really? Could I still get hard? lol. If I could clear sexual desire but still act, now THAT would be something, wouldn't it?
you can't "clear away" the ability to react in the future in a normal way. you'll get horny when you see a hottie. you'll get angry when threatened. you'll get sad when there's a loss. you'll be happy when you find something you thought you lost.
"clearing" just removes the emotions that haven't been expressed or are associated with a "type" of situation where you associate a certain emotion with a certain thing such as blondes or st bernards or teachers or whatever.
in essence, "clearing" makes a blank slate for emotions to be appropriate and correct to the situation in the future. like removing old dead wood so a new tree can grow.
it's not possible to "clear" horniness unless you have some repressed dark frustrated horniness that s stuck in you and in the way of a normal no-baggage horniness.
(09-05-2014, 08:37 PM)stratos Wrote: [ -> ]you can't "clear away" the ability to react in the future in a normal way. you'll get horny when you see a hottie. you'll get angry when threatened. you'll get sad when there's a loss. you'll be happy when you find something you thought you lost.
"clearing" just removes the emotions that haven't been expressed or are associated with a "type" of situation where you associate a certain emotion with a certain thing such as blondes or st bernards or teachers or whatever.
in essence, "clearing" makes a blank slate for emotions to be appropriate and correct to the situation in the future. like removing old dead wood so a new tree can grow.
it's not possible to "clear" horniness unless you have some repressed dark frustrated horniness that s stuck in you and in the way of a normal no-baggage horniness.
Lol really? How do you know? Also, how does this affect situations I keep finding myself in? Just now my cousin is over and I still have some weird feelings going on. I'm gonna clear them, but if these feelings are "normal" and keep coming back, what does that mean? Do I have to "learn" how to act differently?
I was under the assumption/experience that changing my emotions DID change my actions. Quite literally I've been reacting with super positivity during all of his usual BS and we're having a rip-roaring good laugh. My feelings that are creeping in are still of the "this isn't right/normal" variety. >>
I'm less informed about f-eft, but I did watch that Robert Smith's playlist, read those pdfs Geodude linked and something more. I understand the effects and usage of it are similar to those of Sedona. I watched a Sedona video series, where they instruct to also let go of the positive emotions so you're not attached to them either and they can come and go naturally. It all pretty much makes sense to me. But I wouldn't redily equate pstec with f-eft and sedona in how they work and what's best, at least without really thinking it through. Tim does say in some of his audios that many mistakes are made when people assume pstec works like other methods, such as eft. To me, pstec is holding a thought/memory + feeling association in mind and then breaking it with pattern interrupts and hypnotic suggestions. If you want to know what the suggestions do, I suspect a good way would be to just listen to the words on the click track carefully. I don't see any other reason it wouldn't attempt to "delete" good associations as well, except that he does, at least usually, say "negative emotions". Maybe always, idk? Do you have to be 100% sure and congruent that its a negative emotion? There's some slight guesswork there, I think.
Quote: "When I created pstec, I did with one purpose in mind: I simply wanted a tool that could be used to detach emotions from events. ... In other words, pstec is simply designed to be a neutralizer of feelings attached to events."
-PSTEC Level 1 - Therapy course audio - from 3:23 to 4:02
I did run the click tracks on porn 1 or 2 times while on AM6, but I focused on the quilty and shamefull feelings and not on the sex itself. I imagined (*cough* remembered *cough*) sneaking away to my computer in the middle of the night from the bed me & my GF were sleeping in, being wary of getting caught and events like that. Or some of the disgusted feelings I had about gaping, suffocating and such that they do on the videos.
From the book:
Quote:SEXUAL JEALOUSY
Jealousy is bad mkay ....... Some people make the mistake of vividly imagining their partner having graphic sex and then Click Tracking that. It's not the best approach in this instance. Firstly there is no benefit to be had by doing that or by making it sexually graphic. Also, when you do use the Click Track to deal with the jealousy aspect, you don't want to inadvertently hit any of your own excitement connected to the sexual act itself. This is because you also don't want to reduce any of your own desire for your partner. If you inadvertently did that then you'd subsequently have to work on your beliefs related to desire in order to rebuild it.
INCOMPATIBLE LIBIDOS
... Sex drive should not be Click Tracked unless dealing with something such as Nymphomania or a full blown sex addiction. If you simply want to be more compatible in terms of libido with your partner and the difference is not vast, sex drive can be safely lowered by using PSTEC Positive to directly suggest it.
NYMPHOMANIA AND SEX ADDICTION
... In order to lower your feelings towards sex, you would imagine the biggest and most inappropriate “turn on” and use a PSTEC Click Track on it. As you do this you will need to try to feel excited throughout. Before doing this be sure that you understand how to use the Click Track and test it on something completely different first. Only use it in the manner just described after you are absolutely sure you are using it correctly and that it works for you.
Whenever Click Tracking sexual excitement you should be prepared to stop the track part way in order to check your level of feeling. This is because you want to lower it, but not completely of course. When using Click Tracks in this way, try ONLY to imagine sexual encounters with strangers and also in the kinds of locations where things have happened before that you would want to avoid in future. If there are any such events in your past about which you feel particularly ashamed, which were dangerous, very stupid or downright nasty then they make ideal candidates for this procedure. Be sure to recall that event and TRY hard to feel ONLY excitement as you use the PSTEC Click Track on it. Doing this should interrupt your addiction significantly. Whatever the result, wait a few days and monitor the effect. You can repeat this if necessary.
The following is unlikely but I include this just for the sake of completeness: If having done this you find it has inadvertently lowered your libido to a level which seems too low then be aware that you can reset it to a higher level by using PSTEC Positive. If however you have been prone to sex addiction you would be well advised to wait a few weeks before doing this. This is because your libido is likely to naturally elevate to a more normal level in that time.
So all in all... Of course he has to be careful for legal reasons, but if you want to do releasing on positive emotions, I would personally do it with f-eft, sedona and/or similar methods just to be safe. But that's just me. As I said earlier, I will be running the pstec tracks on any constricting/weak/anxious feelings of "I MUST have this" aspects of attachment if those come up, but I will not be click tracking the good or empowering feelings for now. And likely not depression either, since athanas' comments.
click track is bilateral stimulation (left-right tactile stimulation while trying hard to feel the feeling) while tapping goes up and down your body more or less stimulating the vagus nerve while sitting with the emotion. the are both a way to process old emotions aka "energy work" despite what Tim says. pstec is right that it's different than tapping but they're both a way to bring your body alive in a way that helps process emotions. "havening" (look it up) is similar.
Hmm, well it seems like you can re-set it with PSTEC positive, which is cool. You can literally build yourself to be how you want. Totally cool.
I have yet to notice any change since tapping on that scene (if anything, I'm hornier lol) but what do you mean by "I MUST have it"? Isn't that what lust is, and isn't that good? See, that's the exact feeling I had with that porn scene, so yeah.
Anyhow, since you've tapped on the shame surrounding porn, do you find you're more accepting of it, maybe even don't care if your GF knows?
(09-06-2014, 05:08 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]I have yet to notice any change since tapping on that scene (if anything, I'm hornier lol) but what do you mean by "I MUST have it"? Isn't that what lust is, and isn't that good? See, that's the exact feeling I had with that porn scene, so yeah.
No I didn't mean that.. it's kinda difficult to explain with words. I mean a kind of stinging need to get something to complete me, this feeling that I'm not enough without that thing or person, a feeling of weakness because I'm "lacking" and so on. So I'm only trying to clear those kinds of feelings now.
(09-06-2014, 05:08 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Anyhow, since you've tapped on the shame surrounding porn, do you find you're more accepting of it, maybe even don't care if your GF knows?
I think its 2-3 months back, I can't remember... Anyway I haven't masturbated to porn in.. I guess in over 6 months. I don't think I did while on AM6, to finish anyway. I downloaded a single video a few times to see an especially hot girl and I might've taken a few good squeezes. I'm just not into it anymore, I'd much rather project that energy somewhere else. I can't even remember the last time I came on my own, except those 3 energy things.
Stage 1, day 12. Went out yesterday, which was an almost complete bust. The place we went to was just almost empty. One thing that was kinda funny was that for some reason the bouncers suspected us of throwing up all over the place and pulled us aside to question us. I'd had 2 beers the whole night and my friend 1, so it was completely ridiculous. Anyway, I thought it was funny and raised my voice quite a bit to challenge them and for the rest of the night the bouncers always quickly looked down when they saw me. Its something I've noticed lately: I'm not feeling angry or anything but I've been making my points unusually strongly and maybe loudly.
I'm feeling like crap today. Like a huge hangover, even though I only had two beers?! Blah. Went to the gym for legs anyway. The only hot girls I saw were a teenager and my currently only fb. I want to quit drinking completely, its just lame. I'm only doing it to escape anxiety and maintain presence.
The guy from MasculineIntent has a book out and I like his style so I got it and will read it this weekend. Low-energy, high sexual intensity, meeting girls as you go out & about.
Quote:When he saw a woman he desired, he would ask himself, 'ok, what must I do in order for her to like me'. This is not showing love. The contrast to that, is how I feel when I see a woman I desire, 'I want to share her beauty with HER'. I see her 100 times more beautiful than she sees herself, and I share this with her.
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Trees grow, the rain falls, night becomes day, and women are sexually attracted to men, and demonstrate this through sexual intimacy.
STOP GETTING IN THE WAY!
EDIT: lol, its only day 12 of the 1st stage so I shouldn't even be expecting anything! It just feels like I'm much further because I've seen some internal shifts happening already :) With AM6 I had to wait some 3-5 months for anything tangible.