Subliminal Talk

Stage 3, Day 5. I'm in love...

Stage 3 had a pretty much instantaneous effect of fixing my eye contact issues. Had a long-time female coworker clearly forget what she was doing, or where she was going, when I accidentally had my mojo on at work in the morning of Day 1, lol. Also seems like strength at the gym increased suddenly and clearly, which is evident from how sore I've been after those 2 times I've been to the gym on Stage 3.

So, halloween party at a club.... I was dancing with a group, still sober, left to get a drink, and then I'm heading back towards them.. I just started shouting something to my friend when I looked up and this most freaking hot & beautiful pretty tall sexy blonde if ever seen in my life is coming my way and looking right at me. I basically fell in love right that instant, mid-sentence, and let it show to her. After some 2-3 seconds, she looks down, smiles and grabs her friend so they stopped to dance there with us. It was clearly on after that, e.g. we were holding eye contact at around 30cm, then I broke it to look down and take in her body, to eyes again and she instantly moved close and touched my arms. Anyway, we we're doing this push-pull thing and it turned out she was a player, she started to grab some guys to dance with her and stuff and I wasn't into competing over her. It was funny for the rest of the night, I saw & went up to her maybe 5-7 times on the dance floor that night.. One time she had this guy grinding on her from behind, so I just came to stand/dance right up in front of her and we held eye contact for something like 30s to minute while that was happening. We never spoke a word at any point during the night, btw. Constant eye contact and push-pull touching only. We both left with someone else, but I stalked her up on fb and I'll send her a request a little later. I don't think it'll go anywhere, but why not.

I didn't approach anyone else for hours, I just walked around etc. Drank too much, 3 or 4 beers and a drink. I tried to find someone who'd really spark my attention, but there was just always something off about them or the situation (excuses, of course). Didn't help that the girl I was talking about was so freaking stunning and making everyone else look bad, either. But then I finally noticed someone I felt good about, went up and it was instant magic too. She was younger, not as confident as the other girl and almost sober, but she was absolutely sexy in this cute & happy way. Very pretty too. Anyway, we danced & talked normal stuff, constant physical contact, lots of teasing and stuff. Direct verbal stuff too when it got hot. Very good & open, human connection. Her friend left us plenty of room, though I had the impression that she though I was a player and that, I guess, eventually prevented us from hooking up later. I told my girl we should hang out after and she clearly wanted to, but after she talked to her friend about it for many times, she just didn't want to go against the social pressure. My attitude was "you can come or not, its all good". I wanted to see her again anyways. So I got her number and we texted good night later. And yes, I'm in love with her too It just felt so good & natural. Oh, and girl #1 appeared from a long ways of to dance almost next to us with her friend for the last hour or so, wonder how that happened.. She was turned my way but didn't make eye contact anymore.

Afterwards I'm walking home on the street, smiling quite a bit inside, and this group of people walk towards me, I look to one of the girls as we're passing each other by and she holds it, then gets all girly, smiles, looks down and quietly says hi to me while looking up from the corner of eye.. and then 15 seconds later another group comes by and the same thing happens with them.. and then another girl walks towards me alone and it happened for the third time in a row.. I was just tripping so bad from it all I didn't even think to try stop them and headed home to sleep.

So, good times. That was a little drunk and at night-time, though, so I'm becoming certain SM3 will deliver for me, but it'll still take time or another run-through to get this effect daytime and sober. Approaching is of course the 1st thing I need to fix, i.e. start doing. I might go out again today, and if I do I might ask girl #2 to joint me.

Quote:Without even a word, he can and does instantly convey to her that she is going to be his lover, and in doing so, make her quickly want the same thing he does.

^^yep. The 1st part happens in about 1 or 2 seconds, before anything is said.

Wow, and that's just the begin of stage 3...

Stage 3, Day 6. So I did go out again yesterday, but probably shouldn't have. I wasn't feeling too good because of the drinking and lack of sleep. Tried to have a few drinks again to take that off, but overall there wasn't much enthusiasm to anything. And the places I went to were too full, it was just people bumping into each other from every direction. There were some short occasions I felt the good vibes, like when I went to stand at the edge of the dance floor and soon had 2 girls backing into me from a meter away. I did some advances but I had no drive-though motivation. Eventually I noticed that someone pretty cute was dancing alone in front of me, so I went with that and danced & grinded with her for the rest of the night. She did have some friends who joined us a bit later. Again, me and the girl didn't speak a word to each other for about one and a half hours until the bar closed down.. Seems I'm really getting lazy with talking, lol. In the end, she was kinda cute but not really my type.. the D wanted to get wet, so I tried to make myself more exited, but it was no use. Didn't feel good about pushing it, so I didn't. I know it was fun for both of us, but I feel a bit dirty because it wasn't as "honest" as usually.

Sent girl #1 from the previous post a friend request and she msgd me a couple hours later, repeating how sorry she was for being so messed up, drunk and acting stupidly. Not sure what she meant exactly, but I replied that if one isn't making any mistakes, its because they're being too secure with their life. Told her that I fell in love with her from the 1st second, that it'd be absolutely great to see her again in a more sober setting, and to contact me if she wants to. I now remember she had this not-so-impressive guy always around her at the end of the night, maybe a bf. Anyway, moving on. Girl #2 was feeling too tired to go out yesterday, but we'll be in touch.

I know that drinking (alcohol & caffeine) is just a sad and stupid excuse for being too afraid to fail. I thought if I go out alone I'll allow myself to drink a bit more, but I should drop that already. It makes it harder to feel the tension, its expensive and leads to these annoying half-hangovers where I'm not inspired anymore. Maybe the caffeine drains my adrenalin too, idk. I'd want to work on this overwhelmed feeling I had at the club a few times, but I'm not feeling my feelings well enough to do it properly atm. Date night today.

Good things are starting to happen to you!

Alcohol, caffeine and cigarette isn't good for your sex drive.

Going out alone or not it's irrelevant , you are taking action and that's all that matters. You can tap on going out alone too that may help.

(11-02-2014, 07:20 AM)maniac360 Wrote: [ -> ]Alcohol, caffeine and cigarette isn't good for your sex drive.

Caffeine has no bearing on your sex drive whatsoever.

I read a lot of books who say the same things repeatedly: Caffeine is bad for your prostate. Contrary to what the mass media propaganda who says that caffeine is good for health.

(11-02-2014, 10:27 PM)maniac360 Wrote: [ -> ]I read a lot of books who say the same things repeatedly: Caffeine is bad for your prostate. Contrary to what the mass media propaganda who says that caffeine is good for health.

You mean how coffee consumption reduces prostate cancer risk? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21586702

I'd question those 'books' you are reading. I question any source of information about nutrition that isn't referenced with valid studies. Do these books also tell you breakfast is the most important meal of the day and that you need to eat protein every 2 hours to maintain muscle?
I really wish people wouldn't post their little anecdotes about nutrition in this forum.

You are right to question the books I'm reading. Official source tend to say coffee is good for everything. I don't trust what they say even if they say they have done a lot study. I tend trust more what the old Chinese medicine say and Ayurvedic medicine. What they say seems to correlate more to what the reality is. It doesn't mean I take it as gospel truth but what I observed in general is that Coffee is not good for health. What I have concluded is that some unofficial sources says seems to be more what the reality is. Test what the Chinese and Aryuvedic medecine says and you will see for yourself.

You say "valid study", most of the study done by the government is founded by big corporation who sell the product they are studying. How can they be sincere when they make a large profit out the product they sell. The source that I trust the least is the government. They have lost all their credibility.

(11-02-2014, 10:27 PM)maniac360 Wrote: [ -> ]Caffeine is bad for your prostate.

(11-02-2014, 11:20 PM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]You mean how coffee consumption reduces prostate cancer risk? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21586702

robstar, is that really how accurately you check your "valid studies"?

You know, coffee and caffeine are not the same. We're talking about caffeine here and your study excludes caffeine regarding any potentially beneficial health effects.

Quote:Coffee contains many biologically active compounds, including caffeine and phenolic acids, that have potent antioxidant activity and can affect glucose metabolism and sex hormone levels

Quote:Follow-up Study who reported intake of regular and decaffeinated coffee in 1986 and every 4 years thereafter.

Quote:The inverse association with lethal cancer was similar for regular and decaffeinated coffee

Quote:CONCLUSIONS: We observed a strong inverse association between coffee consumption and risk of lethal prostate cancer. The association appears to be related to non-caffeine components of coffee.

You haven't even read the very same study you linked in here but complain when people don't take the time to back up every little nutritional "anecdote" with "valid studies" on a subliminal forum?

I don't know about anybody else, but I have better things to do with my time than proving every nutritional advice to users on a sub forum who probably couldn't care less. If somebody asks me or if it is relevant to the discussion I gladly contribute what I have learnt throughout the years about nurturing myself, but I won't take the time to backup everything scientifically that's not what I'm here for. (especially since often counter studies exist, and how "valid" most studies are is another discussion entirely. I have seen too much misuse of selective funding of studies and seen people too easily accept any study as "valid")

If it bothers people that my nutritional advice is only anecdotal, I gladly shut up. I don't lose anything by that. I already know what works for me, just thought it'd be nice to share if I see somebody who could make use of that knowledge. I assumed if somebody is really interested he'd take my anecdotes as a basis to research it for himself properly and on forums where this is the main discussion.

Of course, studies are important and it takes time to backup your claims properly. I rather not post anything at all before I have to spend that time on a sub forum. You can see here in robstars case if you rush it you make mistakes even in such simple caffeine discussions, what do you think how careful you have to be when you're talking about mineral and hormonal correlations like magnesium and testosterone?

Caffeine can't generate energy and alertness out of nothing. It is just a another trigger for your body to use the rescources it already has to generate that energy. Often there is a reason why a healthy body decided to save up and hasn't triggered the consumption of those rescources yet so it puts you into a sleepy state. But with caffeine you can force your body into overdrive against its will. In this case it'll tax your adrenals and cause adrenal fatigue long term. Where are the studies? Go find them yourself. If you're too lazy to do that you can also feel free to not beleive anything I say. I don't care.

But now back to Lionkings journal.

Quote:I know that drinking (alcohol & caffeine) is just a sad and stupid excuse for being too afraid to fail. I thought if I go out alone I'll allow myself to drink a bit more, but I should drop that already. It makes it harder to feel the tension, its expensive and leads to these annoying half-hangovers where I'm not inspired anymore. Maybe the caffeine drains my adrenalin too, idk. I'd want to work on this overwhelmed feeling I had at the club a few times, but I'm not feeling my feelings well enough to do it properly atm. Date night today.

I admire your resolution, I have a hard time going sober myself. It's just too tempting if I know my game could be 10 times better just with a bit of alc. Well at last the first half of the night, the second half the right calibration of tension just gets harder and harder making me fuck up much of what I built up with my awesome care free state in the beginning.

But I know it's possible to get the same level of carefree state even without alcohol, so I keep reducing it. I have a friend who refuses to drink at all as he is taking his bodybuilding seriously and he surpasses my drunken carefree state even when he is sober... that's where I'm aiming at. Naturally the girls flock to him. Most people think it's because of his looks only but then I remember the times when he was fat and carefree and still the girls flock to him.

Quote:Maybe the caffeine drains my adrenalin too, idk.

If you let your body accumulate a lot of rescources by skipping trigger substances like caffein, cocaine or trigger images like porn (which cause you to lose rescources by ejaculation) it will be very easy to use another, voluntary trigger to put your body into the right state (e.g. the masculine intent exercises). Especially the more similiar the requred substances are. (so porn abstinence will make your body save up more of the substances required for arousal, caffeine abstinence more substance that are required for alertness)

The less rescources you have the more you have to force your body into consuming them. Longterm coffee drinkers have to drink more caffeine to get the same kick, the same goes for porn and any other trigger. If you have a lot of rescources you could generate heavy arousal and a very attractive state with just a faint masculine intent exercise. If you don't have much rescources you'd have to do it very very vividly for the same effect.

That's why meditation could also help you with increasing the masculine intent exercise. (I think the creator of MI himself also meditates doesn't he?) Meditation is the complete opposite of putting your body into overdrive. It makes your body save up your rescources.

Even better, if you are advanced in meditation you can get your body into such a deep state that, not only does it begin to save up your rescources, it uses those rescources to repair your organs causing them to become more efficient and be able to suck out more nutrients from your food and even air longterm. So longterm your not just saving up but even generating rescources through meditation.

(11-03-2014, 06:55 AM)athanas Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-02-2014, 10:27 PM)maniac360 Wrote: [ -> ]Caffeine is bad for your prostate.

(11-02-2014, 11:20 PM)robstar Wrote: [ -> ]You mean how coffee consumption reduces prostate cancer risk? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21586702

robstar, is that really how accurately you check your "valid studies"?

You know, coffee and caffeine are not the same. We're talking about caffeine here and your study excludes caffeine regarding any potentially beneficial health effects.

Quote:Coffee contains many biologically active compounds, including caffeine and phenolic acids, that have potent antioxidant activity and can affect glucose metabolism and sex hormone levels

Quote:Follow-up Study who reported intake of regular and decaffeinated coffee in 1986 and every 4 years thereafter.

Quote:The inverse association with lethal cancer was similar for regular and decaffeinated coffee

Quote:CONCLUSIONS: We observed a strong inverse association between coffee consumption and risk of lethal prostate cancer. The association appears to be related to non-caffeine components of coffee.

You haven't even read the very same study you linked in here but complain when people don't take the time to back up every little nutritional "anecdote" with "valid studies" on a subliminal forum?

I don't know about anybody else, but I have better things to do with my time than proving every nutritional advice to users on a sub forum who probably couldn't care less. If somebody asks me or if it is relevant to the discussion I gladly contribute what I have learnt throughout the years about nurturing myself, but I won't take the time to backup everything scientifically that's not what I'm here for. (especially since often counter studies exist, and how "valid" most studies are is another discussion entirely. I have seen too much misuse of selective funding of studies and seen people too easily accept any study as "valid")

If it bothers people that my nutritional advice is only anecdotal, I gladly shut up. I don't lose anything by that. I already know what works for me, just thought it'd be nice to share if I see somebody who could make use of that knowledge. I assumed if somebody is really interested he'd take my anecdotes as a basis to research it for himself properly and on forums where this is the main discussion.

Of course, studies are important and it takes time to backup your claims properly. I rather not post anything at all before I have to spend that time on a sub forum. You can see here in robstars case if you rush it you make mistakes even in such simple caffeine discussions, what do you think how careful you have to be when you're talking about mineral and hormonal correlations like magnesium and testosterone?

Caffeine can't generate energy and alertness out of nothing. It is just a another trigger for your body to use the rescources it already has to generate that energy. Often there is a reason why a healthy body decided to save up and hasn't triggered the consumption of those rescources yet so it puts you into a sleepy state. But with caffeine you can force your body into overdrive against its will. In this case it'll tax your adrenals and cause adrenal fatigue long term. Where are the studies? Go find them yourself. If you're too lazy to do that you can also feel free to not beleive anything I say. I don't care.

I'm well aware that caffeine and coffee are not the same thing. However if coffee can potentially reduce prostate cancer risk, I think its a safe conclusion to make that caffeine cannot be significantly bad for your prostate, considering coffee contains caffeine.
Well I appreciate the freedom to not believe what you say, which is what I will do.. as in all my time researching caffeine because of people who have told me "its not good for you, you'll get adrenal fatigue!" I have not found a single thing to prove that true, unless we're talking about very high (600mg+) daily doses. So if you can point me to one of those studies I'm all ears, otherwise I will continue to be a moderate caffeine user and feel awesome.
Anyway my point is none of us should be believing what some other dudes on a forum say, without doing our own research. And yes, Maniac360 saying that caffeine isn't good for your sex drive, as if its some indisputable fact, bothered me a little. So I apologise for being snarky.
Sorry Lionking

I didn't meant that as an indisputable fact, nothing is to my point of view. I think people here are clever enough to research things on their own. If I had to prove everything I say I wouldn't say anything because it will take me too much time. It's like for subliminal, we know it's working but we can't prove it scientifically because we don't have enough time and resources. It's like for magnesium oil I can't know for sure it's working unless I test it on my own and even then I can still doubt it. I can't trust some government to do the study for me it's even more stupid. Read the study they have done on subliminal while they sure know it's really working because they use it everyday on TV.