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I was an adept at watching NG a while back when I was on stage 4 AM5. At that time I didn't really know how hypnosis worked. But I do a lot better that I used to now. I have just watch 10 NG video and 2 of them was obviously hypnosis. This
One for example, I noticed the exact same reaction my body has when I'm in trance.
Some of the video like "Grace" seems to be more beta than alpha behavior. It shows alpha female behavior but the guys seems to be lead by the girls, the girl take action for him. Some of them show real alpha behavior, the one with James bond and the other movie alpha male. All of them has some hypnosis in them because it makes you more "sleepy".
One of the thing that NG has really help me it's porn. I remember when I start watching NG one weeks later I didn't feel any needs to watch porn at all.
One if the things which seems really similar to hypnosis is the time it takes to affect me which is around 1 week.
Hmm, I usually watch the Girls Generation videos. Do you HAVE to watch these kinds (the Graces and ones, for example)?
maniac - Agreed that the guys in Grace seem beta and overall NG is pretty fluffy. It would definitely not qualify as my primary means of self-development, but I think it can be useful. Don't really know what is the definition of "hypnosis" and if it matters that it is or isn't hypnosis? Is hypnosis a "suggestible state"? Would you say there are suggestions in NG and, if yes, what suggestions? Oh, and how did you notice it started affecting you after 1 week? Curious.
I am actually in a bit of a trance-like state on dates sometimes. Some would say this is "bad", but the point of a date for me is usually to enjoy the lovely woman I'm going out with. Yes, she does get to be the center of my attention, but I won't fake liking her if I don't or anything like that. If I specifically wanted to DO stuff I could just do it on my own. Instead now I'm choosing to do her, if she's fun and up for it ;)
What I like about NG is it seems to direct you to focus on, and value, her movement, freedom of expression and how she's feeling instead of details like the shape of her tits. In what's going on inside her as opposed to her body I guess. Of course the focus on her body comes naturally if she's hot, so this just balances it out. Disclaimer: you don't have to feel LIKE she feels, just observe it as something fascinating that's outside you.
(11-20-2014, 06:07 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm, I usually watch the Girls Generation videos. Do you HAVE to watch these kinds (the Graces and ones, for example)?
You don't HAVE to do shit :D My favorite is
natural grounding reel 2.0, especially the latter 20 minutes of the whole 40. I like slower shots, allows me to focus better. Girls generation is usually good for me too.
This one's hot.
(11-20-2014, 07:11 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]maniac - Agreed that the guys in Grace seem beta and overall NG is pretty fluffy. It would definitely not qualify as my primary means of self-development, but I think it can be useful. Don't really know what is the definition of "hypnosis" and if it matters that it is or isn't hypnosis? Is hypnosis a "suggestible state"? Would you say there are suggestions in NG and, if yes, what suggestions? Oh, and how did you notice it started affecting you after 1 week? Curious.
I am actually in a bit of a trance-like state on dates sometimes. Some would say this is "bad", but the point of a date for me is usually to enjoy the lovely woman I'm going out with. Yes, she does get to be the center of my attention, but I won't fake liking her if I don't or anything like that. If I specifically wanted to DO stuff I could just do it on my own. Instead now I'm choosing to do her, if she's fun and up for it 
What I like about NG is it seems to direct you to focus on, and value, her movement, freedom of expression and how she's feeling instead of details like the shape of her tits. In what's going on inside her as opposed to her body I guess. Of course the focus on her body comes naturally if she's hot, so this just balances it out. Disclaimer: you don't have to feel LIKE she feels, just observe it as something fascinating that's outside you.
I notice the same kind of smile, freedom on my face when I did NG and now hypnosis after one week.
In daily life we are often on a trance, trance is natural process. We just describe things around us or in our mind and as a result we get deeper into trance. So whether it's bad or not I would say it's a natural process to be in. Maybe it's better to stay conscious, it's depends on what your goal are and where you are. Girl tend to fall easier in trance because there are more submissive. A logical answer would be guys should stay more conscious. I would say it depends on what you want to achieve in the moment and place you are. It's impossible not to fall in trance from time to time anyway for both gender.
I'm not a professional about this so basically I would trust Shannon on the "don't use NG with AM or SM". Because Shannon has a lot more understanding on hypnosis/NG and his sub. Though I don't think it would drastically degrade the SM3 or AM6 results because obviously some of us did get result with both.
About the suggestion the one I linked on my last post seems to have them. He is talking about gender and your role as a male to free/help the girls to show their true nature. The others seems more like visualizations. Again I'm not an expert about it so I would trust Shannon on that.
update: I'm wondering if the better result I got from AM5 wasn't linked to NG because I got more result more AM5 than AM6.
Stage 3, Day 26. Drunk times. I was just on a Tinder date, which went horribly, lol. The girl was visiting with her friend from out of town and was really exited at first, but she was a bit drunk and for whatever reason she couldn't understand what I was saying... she said I should speak slower, but everyone else understood me quite well, so... lol. Anyway, she went away and avoided me, so I got to talking with her friend and the guy she was on a date with and they were really cool (and more sober). The guy actually said that we should definitely "get drunk sometime", but I passed b/c I'm not too much into getting drunk anymore. Went to a club afterwards and met some friends.. had a lot of fun and fondled a pair of breasts.. one really really good connection, but I lost her in the traffic eventually. Drank too much, because I thought "fuck it" after the date. Maybe 5 or 6 beers. What's noteworthy about the night is that overall I got along really well with random people and it was fun overall. Now to sleep this off and I'll be out again tomorrow. This drinking thing sucks, but I managed to justify it to myself again with the date and going out alone and whatever excuses. Well no matter, there's always time for progress.
Doing lots of lost of hours of SM3 at the moment. Not getting tired at all and feeling pretty good. I bought Blackdragons book like everyone else and it seems really good so far. It always annoys me a bit when someone points out that I'm not really taking responsibility in the money department, but I feel like I should get this women thing handled before I really start breaking my career apart.. I am planning and doing some changes, but I could do more. I just feel like that would take all my time, so I couldn't focus on other stuff.
Also, I've noticed that I've taken a more "screening" mentality in the last month or so. I only realized it when I looked into Good looking loser. How this manifests is I care less about rejection, because "she just didn't want what I wanted tonight" and also in that even if it seems that a girl likes me and we get along fairly well, I tend to push to find out if she's actually interested and open to anything happening or not. It used to be that I was good with a girl just liking me and eventually being unavailable for anything sexual. So that's good, more internally validated.
Gonna play some Dragon age tomorrow, I'm hearing its good :) Loved DA1, but got bored with DA2 pretty soon.
Stage 3, Day 28. Christmas holiday season, ugh.. What that means is that, yes people are out to get drunk and girls may even think hooking up more than usual, but... the better clubs are packed full of drunken people who are all trying that.
I'm gonna went for a bit, so feel free to pass this if you have stuff to do. I'm fine, just gotta set some priorities when going out.
As my 1st approach, I grabbed a very hot passing girl who was sober by the hand and pulled her to me. She was very confident and challenged me on anything I said that left something to interpretation, but she was just testing whether I was legit or some drunk who'd turn all supplicating beta the moment she questioned anything. She remained quite open, didn't leave, held solid eye contact up-close the whole time and after a while visibly decided that I was someone interesting and started laughing more, investing, introduced herself and so on. She was of course taken, but I enjoyed the chat and the chemistry. That's the sort of interaction I like (obviously more with single girls, but still). Lately I've been feeling fine just standing at whatever visible spot at the club by myself, moving to the music slightly and waiting if something interesting comes up. I was in observation mode a lot tonight, and what I saw was that every guy who managed to somehow "get with" a girl (pair up dancing, exchange numbers, talk about after parties) was acting quite beta and pleading the girls for their attention. Or at least that's what it looked like to me. And of course they're forced to do that; there's a horde of drunken guys around competing for the girl's attention, and the girls seldom select anything actively, so the guys must act that way to get the girl's attention and drag them along. But I just don't have any fucking interest to do that. I don't feel its something that a self-respecting man does. Its a lose-lose deal; the guys are forced to supplicate and the girls don't get to experience a stronger male presence. So what I end up doing is a lot of nothing, which of course isn't what I want either.
I feel like the advantages I have are confidence and sexuality when I'm actually with the girl one on one (sober or with only a little alc) and my intentions of being open, honest, loving and so forth. The solutions I see for myself are to:
(1) do more daygame or internet dating (ugh, texting and flakes...)
(2) avoid the larger clubs in the holiday seasons, or
(3) when in these really packed club situations, drop the normal connection stuff altogether and really go for a screening for dtf girls attitude. Aggressive, non-supplicating, high risk, high reward. But still kind of gentle, because I wouldn't enjoy it otherwise. I don't live in a very big city so I'm still a bit wary of doing that, but.. well. Actually I was already a lot more aggressive a month ago. I feel fine about it when I'm just going up like that "voluntarily", but I feel like a sorry little fan boy if I have to go and compete with 5 other guys who start trying to imitate me on the dance floor and shit (had a few tonight).
^^Slept on it. I thought it might be fear of failure again, but no, I'm pretty sure what was holding me back yesterday was avoiding messiness. (And a slight hang over.) I've been going for a bit of a James Bond thing again lately and it was just very out of place in those clubs yesterday. Also, I was looking for signals of attraction too much before approaching. I got those at the beginning of a night (one shorter girl dropped her jaw a bit when she saw me lol), but then things got crowded, boozy and messy. I didn't see a good example from the other guys around, but something like RSDAlex game would've been more appropriate. Or what Julien called "drunken game" at some point: just walk around only concentrating on the people within a 1-2m circle of you and talking to them, no getting an overall picture of the room at all. Like you were drunk and had impaired vision.
Damn, that one very good connection I had on Friday.. I think she might've thought I'm not interested in her. It was just flowing so well and we we're talking about socializing and I mentioned how can get kinda weird when I'm somewhere and I approach some girl just to talk to them (pass the time) when I don't want to hit on them. Then a little later when she was replying I think she said "..like I'm not hitting on you right now, its just like let's see what happens..". Then a while later still she just suddenly said she's going dancing with her friends and left a bit out of the blue. My friend said he was really surprised because he'd been watching her reactions to me a bit and said she seemed really into it. So I guess I should remember to express/verbalize my interest to her even if I get carried on into the conversation ("its ok to hit on me, I like you"). She was a psych major, so we got to talking about intro/extroversion, fears and so on. I remember demonstrating and talking about picking my nose (talking about talking about stupid subjects). So Bond of me. Could be that my threat level was a bit lower due starting NG this week. But I'm just adjusting and learning. Note to self: If in doubt, look at boobs.
Ok, off to other stuff.
(11-23-2014, 01:09 AM)LionKing Wrote: [ -> ]Note to self: If in doubt, look at boobs.
Totally lol. Going pure sexual disarms the woman completely and goes to the very core of an interaction.
Hahahahaha! Thanks Lionking! Love the video's!
Lmao Simba, round up those lionesses
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I think a he's been killed by a lioness who he was cheating on...
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