Subliminal Talk

My heart chakra is not quite as wise open as it was before, but I am opening it back up as much as possible. I think it's working too

So I've decided to start practicing the becoming method again. There is a specific person I want to be in a long term relationship with (not my exfriend, I won't say who though) and I'm trying to imagine for 10 minutes straight very vivid scene of me taking this woman's virginity. Problem is, I myself am a virgin and have no experience when it comes to sex, so it's hard to imagine what it'll feel, taste, or smell like. I'm trying to set up a vivid scene in my head, but I'm not able to use all 5 senses yet. I believe in my ability though to manifest with the becoming method and I won't get discouraged. It just takes practice. I also realize that for this to work, I have to only fantasize about it for those 10 minutes in the morning and evening and then get my mind off of it the rest of the time, or my subconcious mind will read it as a fantasy, not an experience, signalling a lack of having. I'm wondering though... does it make my manifestation any more effective if I don't masturbate? Or does it not matter? Obviously, I'd be masturbating to something else if I did.

You've never successfully used this method before, and you want to use it on a specific person? Are you sure you understand how to do that without taking away their free will?

(10-15-2019, 04:56 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You've never successfully used this method before, and you want to use it on a specific person?  Are you sure you understand how to do that without taking away their free will?

Well... the plan is to imagine us having sex. A vivid scene of us having sex. I'm not specifically imagining how it gets to that point. It's not like I'm imagining that it's rape. I'm imagining that we're having consensual sex. Is that not enough? What should I do to make sure this doesn't infringe upon her free will?

The plan is to just imagine this scene 10 minutes every morning and night and forget about it the rest of the time until the scene becomes a real experience.

I'm imagining she's doing it because she's sexually attracted to me and wants to. Is that not enough?

Is this doing it wrong? I'm not trying to infringe on free will. What do I have to do to make sure I don't?

Because you said one couls imagine a reality where they choose to do it of their own free will, right? Well that's what I'm imagining.


Also, does masturbation (to the thought of somebody else) lessen the efficacy of the manifestation method or does it not matter?

(10-15-2019, 04:59 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-15-2019, 04:56 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You've never successfully used this method before, and you want to use it on a specific person?  Are you sure you understand how to do that without taking away their free will?

Well... the plan is to imagine us having sex. A vivid scene of us having sex. I'm not specifically imagining how it gets to that point. It's not like I'm imagining that it's rape. I'm imagining that we're having consensual sex. Is that not enough? What should I do to make sure this doesn't infringe upon her free will?

The plan is to just imagine this scene 10 minutes every morning and night and forget about it the rest of the time until the scene becomes a real experience.

Is this doing it wrong? I'm not trying to infringe on free will. What do I have to do to make sure I don't?

Because you said one couls imagine a reality where they choose to do it of their own free will, right? Well that's what I'm imagining.

True.  But you have to know how to do it first, and then know how to specifically do it to retain their free will.  You need to make sure that what you visualize doesn't just include consensual sex, but consensual everything leading up to the sex.

Much better idea to use it at this point to visualize sex without specifying anyone you know in specific.  You can use the visualization to specify general traits like age, hair color, body type, but using it to achieve something with a specific person makes the process much harder if you don't want to violate free will, even by accident.

(10-15-2019, 05:18 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]True.  But you have to know how to do it first, and then know how to specifically do it to retain their free will.  You need to make sure that what you visualize doesn't just include consensual sex, but consensual everything leading up to the sex.

I admit, that's gonna be a lot harder. How do I imagine ALL OF THAT with just 20 minutes each day?

How would YOU go about it?

(10-15-2019, 05:31 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-15-2019, 05:18 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]True.  But you have to know how to do it first, and then know how to specifically do it to retain their free will.  You need to make sure that what you visualize doesn't just include consensual sex, but consensual everything leading up to the sex.

I admit, that's gonna be a lot harder. How do I imagine ALL OF THAT with just 20 minutes each day?

How would YOU go about it?

If I wanted to have sex with a virgin, I would do one of the following:

1. Simply go about achieving that without using any causality manipulation method, or
2. I would use the method I showed you to result in deflowering "the perfect virgin for me", but not a specific person I actually know.

If this girl (I'm presuming) is someone you want to have sex with, get her to want to have sex with you, but don't use manipulation.

So you're saying just DON'T use the becoming method at all, because I would inevitably infringe on her free will?

Damn. I was hoping to one day use it to reconcile with my friend. If that's the case, why not just wait to use an AYP sub? If I can't get the specific person I want.

(10-15-2019, 05:36 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If I wanted to have sex with a virgin, I would do one of the following:

1. Simply go about achieving that without using any causality manipulation method, or
2. I would use the method I showed you to result in deflowering "the perfect virgin for me", but not a specific person I actually know.

" I would use the method I showed you to result in deflowering "the perfect virgin for me", but not a specific person I actually know."

Could you go into further detail explaining how to do that?

(10-15-2019, 05:49 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]Damn. I was hoping to one day use it to reconcile with my friend. If that's the case, why not just wait to use an AYP sub? If I can't get the specific person I want.

(10-15-2019, 05:36 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]If I wanted to have sex with a virgin, I would do one of the following:

1. Simply go about achieving that without using any causality manipulation method, or
2. I would use the method I showed you to result in deflowering "the perfect virgin for me", but not a specific person I actually know.

" I would use the method I showed you to result in deflowering "the perfect virgin for me", but not a specific person I actually know."

Could you go into further detail explaining how to do that?

You would simply use that method to experience the act of defloration with a person you find attractive physically and sexually, to whatever level of detail you like - but don't use a person you actually know or a specific person.  That isn't hard to do using the method I described.  Make the experience mutually enjoyable, too.

If I practice the becoming method enough, will I eventually get to a point where I can get specific people to make certain choices I want them to make without violating their free will?

(10-15-2019, 09:13 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]If I practice the becoming method enough, will I eventually get to a point where I can get specific people to make certain choices I want them to make without violating their free will?

Just being able to drive a car doesn't mean you know how to race it safely.  You must study the theory behind the action to do advanced things like shifting to a new reality yourself, while preserving the free will of others while also directly anchoring on them during the shift.  It's not something you're going to do in a short amount of time, even if someone like me was to mentor you every day.

But with enough dedication and perseverance, you'll be able to do it.  One of the most important aspects of doing things like that is learning how to know you didn't influence their free will - which I'm not free to teach you.

(10-16-2019, 05:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-15-2019, 09:13 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]If I practice the becoming method enough, will I eventually get to a point where I can get specific people to make certain choices I want them to make without violating their free will?

Just being able to drive a car doesn't mean you know how to race it safely.  You must study the theory behind the action to do advanced things like shifting to a new reality yourself, while preserving the free will of others while also directly anchoring on them during the shift.  It's not something you're going to do in a short amount of time, even if someone like me was to mentor you every day.

But with enough dedication and perseverance, you'll be able to do it.  One of the most important aspects of doing things like that is learning how to know you didn't influence their free will - which I'm not free to teach you.

"But with enough dedication and perseverance, you'll be able to do it.  One of the most important aspects of doing things like that is learning how to know you didn't influence their free will - which I'm not free to teach you."

It's that complicated huh? Well how do I learn it? And how do I learn the proper theory behind the action to do those advanced things? 

(10-16-2019, 05:34 AM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-16-2019, 05:23 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-15-2019, 09:13 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: [ -> ]If I practice the becoming method enough, will I eventually get to a point where I can get specific people to make certain choices I want them to make without violating their free will?

Just being able to drive a car doesn't mean you know how to race it safely.  You must study the theory behind the action to do advanced things like shifting to a new reality yourself, while preserving the free will of others while also directly anchoring on them during the shift.  It's not something you're going to do in a short amount of time, even if someone like me was to mentor you every day.

But with enough dedication and perseverance, you'll be able to do it.  One of the most important aspects of doing things like that is learning how to know you didn't influence their free will - which I'm not free to teach you.

"But with enough dedication and perseverance, you'll be able to do it.  One of the most important aspects of doing things like that is learning how to know you didn't influence their free will - which I'm not free to teach you."

It's that complicated huh? Well how do I learn it? And how do I learn the proper theory behind the action to do those advanced things? 

You are ambitious, and I like that.  But no matter how ambitious you are, you need a solid foundation first.  So worry about that later.  For now, master the basics.