(07-02-2017, 08:28 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Affected side resistance is real. ALCT was as cute as her pictures. Nice, thick body. We got along very well, lots of kino and the such until she asked me if I were seeing other women. I answered honestly -- said yes, and suddenly her entire demeanor changed. She started "rejecting" my escalation attempts. I say "rejecting" because it wasn't a real rejection. She didn't tell me to stop. She'd let me feel all over her breasts, ass and upper thighs, then pull away while calling me a player. She claimed everything I said was just game that "three other women" probably heard this week. She even swerved me for a kiss on the lips, but let me kiss all over her neck, moaning as I did it.
Once I get home, I get a text from her about how much fun we had and asking if we can go out together on the 4th. I told her we could go to the park and do other free things (since I didn't have plans anyway). I told her that she needed to come relaxed and to let her guard down a bit. Not sure what happened here, but she definitely put up a fight. Was a waste of $45 on drinks. Unless we **** on Tuesday.
Maybe she just needs to know you care about her, personally? Just a theory.
Nah, it sounds like the chick was insecure. Needs more affected side resistance removal and clearing. Just like what I experienced yesterday....
Her demeanor was cool until she found out chaos was dating other chicks. But she wasn't fully rejecting the escalation, so she "wanted it" but something stopped her.
(07-02-2017, 09:22 PM)eternity Wrote: [ -> ]Nah, it sounds like the chick was insecure. Needs more affected side resistance removal and clearing. Just like what I experienced yesterday....
Her demeanor was cool until she found out chaos was dating other chicks. But she wasn't fully rejecting the escalation, so she "wanted it" but something stopped her.
Yeah but what if she was afraid he didn't care about her and just saw her as a notch? That could easily explain it.
(07-02-2017, 09:25 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (07-02-2017, 09:22 PM)eternity Wrote: [ -> ]Nah, it sounds like the chick was insecure. Needs more affected side resistance removal and clearing. Just like what I experienced yesterday....
Her demeanor was cool until she found out chaos was dating other chicks. But she wasn't fully rejecting the escalation, so she "wanted it" but something stopped her.
Yeah but what if she was afraid he didn't care about her and just saw her as a notch? That could easily explain it.
That could be it. It could also just as easily be that finding out about the other chicks meant that she was afraid of not getting as much attention as if she was the only one. We'll never know.
(07-02-2017, 09:29 PM)apollolux Wrote: [ -> ] (07-02-2017, 09:25 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ] (07-02-2017, 09:22 PM)eternity Wrote: [ -> ]Nah, it sounds like the chick was insecure. Needs more affected side resistance removal and clearing. Just like what I experienced yesterday....
Her demeanor was cool until she found out chaos was dating other chicks. But she wasn't fully rejecting the escalation, so she "wanted it" but something stopped her.
Yeah but what if she was afraid he didn't care about her and just saw her as a notch? That could easily explain it.
That could be it. It could also just as easily be that finding out about the other chicks meant that she was afraid of not getting as much attention as if she was the only one. We'll never know.
Yes.
And yes we may never know but I think this is what is causing the affected-side resistance: lack of trust.
Another part of trust is believing the other person has your best interest at heart.
It's insecurity about whether or not she is good enough. Competition anxiety and past experiences. She's looking for security.
In other words, affected side resistance. WTF is up with all this "empathize with the women" shit? We're running a sub designed to reverse the tables, make women chase us instead of them and all of a sudden, we're finding moral issues with that? "We need to CAAAARE about them more." Wha-?
Regardless of the underlying reason, it's affected side resistance and we need to get around that. But, I imagine most of the people talking about this shit have never seen what a woman's sexuality looks like when it's unleashed. When she finds you attractive enough, she doesn't give a damn about whether you care about her or not. That's a myth that women need an "emotional connection" to have sex -- one that they've hidden behind for eons to artificially inflate the price of p*ssy.
She actually confessed to me that she had a long-time boyfriend that started cheating on her and thought that since he openly told her that he was going to sleep with other women, it was okay. Apparently, I reminded her of him. Whatever. Like I said, she never quite rejected me. She curled up in my arms multiple time, moaned as I kissed her neck and rubbed her chest and thighs. This is classic "good girl game."
Good girl game is what Rollo calls the "epiphany phase," though he overcomplicates it. Good girl game is basically this -- around 30, after she's been nailed to the bed more times than most men can imagine, she suddenly begins to pretend she's not really sexual anymore. She tries to find a man who will wait weeks / months / until marriage to have sex to inflate the price of vagina. In this case, she also wants me to get rid of my budding harem and devote time and resources to her, WITHOUT providing intimacy in return. It's a ridiculous strategy, but lots of men do it because they think they've found a non-slutty unicornsnuffywuffykins.
She texted me last night, begging me to take her out for July 4th. I told her we'd do something completely free -- like a park and fireworks near my house. The only reason is because I suspect the aura will break through this time. It was close last night. Shannon never promised first night lays, but I think I can convert her. My intuition is telling me what to do.
In other news, for the past week, I've had incredible headaches and INCREDIBLE HUNGER. I mean, insane hunger. Woke up this morning and looked at myself in the mirror. I lost a TON of weight seemingly overnight. Musculature had developed. Face looks amazing. My jawline has emerged. Didn't realize I had such a stunning jawline with all that baby fat covering it. In fact, ALCT asked me why I wanted to be a semi-pro kickboxer. She interrupted my answer with, "I'm just saying, it'd be suuuch a shame for you to ruin such a beautiful, beautiful face."
Annnnnd... looks like my erection quality is INSANE, like Viagra level and flaccid hang is "fuller." I suspect the exhaustion, headaches and hunger were the result of my body responding to the sub's instructions to change the physical body.
So -- canceling date with ThaiChix tonight. I'm EXHAUSTED. I mean, straight up exhausted. Put in 6 hours at the thai gym this weekend. I need a day off before going out tomorrow night AND Wednesday night.
Based on your interaction with her, I'd say you'll probably lay her within an hour of meeting her tomorrow night.
Looking forward to reading your update on how it goes.
(07-03-2017, 09:07 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]Based on your interaction with her, I'd say you'll probably lay her within an hour of meeting her tomorrow night.
Looking forward to reading your update on how it goes.
I concur -- was just talking to the Skype chat peeps about that. She actually wanted to meet today. She said I could "prove" that I wasn't a player by meeting with her today. I saw that as a compliance shit test and declined. Plus, like I said -- I've been doing (no lie) 12-15 hours of Muay Thai a week and yesterday I bashed the shit out of my shin checking a kick. Tonight, I'm going home and watching a bunch of mindless television and letting my weary bones rest.
(07-03-2017, 09:13 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ] (07-03-2017, 09:07 AM)Duke.Togo Wrote: [ -> ]Based on your interaction with her, I'd say you'll probably lay her within an hour of meeting her tomorrow night.
Looking forward to reading your update on how it goes.
I concur -- was just talking to the Skype chat peeps about that. She actually wanted to meet today. She said I could "prove" that I wasn't a player by meeting with her today. I saw that as a compliance shit test and declined. Plus, like I said -- I've been doing (no lie) 12-15 hours of Muay Thai a week and yesterday I bashed the shit out of my shin checking a kick. Tonight, I'm going home and watching a bunch of mindless television and letting my weary bones rest.
Agreed, if she's pushing you to meet with her tonight, it's a shit test and also for her a self compliance test. She needs to justify to herself that it's OK for her to allow you to f*ck her brains out.
She'll probably give you a little shade initially, but that would be her last bit of defense before she gives into you completely.
Have fun tomorrow night setting off your own fireworks.
(07-03-2017, 08:14 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]In other words, affected side resistance. WTF is up with all this "empathize with the women" shit? We're running a sub designed to reverse the tables, make women chase us instead of them and all of a sudden, we're finding moral issues with that? "We need to CAAAARE about them more." Wha-?
I assume this is directed at me.
I'm reading a book atm about Trust and that's one of the things he advocates. (that you care about what's in the other person's best interest).
However, he also says you don't HAVE to care about others. trust can be accomplished by owning the fact that you don't care (you suggested this to me once) however, there is a "tax" to be paid on that which he gets into later.
Anyhow, even your story about the girl and her ex boyfriend indicates a high level of trust (he told her about the other girls).
Anyhow, everything I'm considering atm is being filtered through the trust thing.
If it turns out I'm wrong, great. I can go back to being a selfish, sociopath. But if it turns out Trust works the way they say it does, I have much to work on.
Because being the caring type is a higher return of investment.
We shall see.
(07-03-2017, 08:14 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Regardless of the underlying reason, it's affected side resistance and we need to get around that. But, I imagine most of the people talking about this shit have never seen what a woman's sexuality looks like when it's unleashed. When she finds you attractive enough, she doesn't give a damn about whether you care about her or not. That's a myth that women need an "emotional connection" to have sex -- one that they've hidden behind for eons to artificially inflate the price of p*ssy.
Yeah I'm not saying they need emotional connection, I'm saying they need to trust you.
(07-03-2017, 08:14 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]She actually confessed to me that she had a long-time boyfriend that started cheating on her and thought that since he openly told her that he was going to sleep with other women, it was okay. Apparently, I reminded her of him. Whatever. Like I said, she never quite rejected me. She curled up in my arms multiple time, moaned as I kissed her neck and rubbed her chest and thighs. This is classic "good girl game."
Trust. >>
You can achieve trust simply by being honest, Sarge. That does not require caring about them. But I'm not sure it was, or was entirely, directed at you.
(07-03-2017, 08:14 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ -> ]Good girl game is what Rollo calls the "epiphany phase," though he overcomplicates it. Good girl game is basically this -- around 30, after she's been nailed to the bed more times than most men can imagine, she suddenly begins to pretend she's not really sexual anymore. She tries to find a man who will wait weeks / months / until marriage to have sex to inflate the price of vagina. In this case, she also wants me to get rid of my budding harem and devote time and resources to her, WITHOUT providing intimacy in return. It's a ridiculous strategy, but lots of men do it because they think they've found a non-slutty unicornsnuffywuffykins.
AKA: "I've HAD my fun...now it's time to settle down/where are all the good men?". "Good men" being the guys they had zero time for during their prime, of course. Now that the bad boys moved on, she has time for the "good men". Keep trying to have that cake and eat it too, let me know how that works out, lol. Guys seem to be wising up to hypergamy more and more. I know a couple really hot ex-party girls trying to pull this on me, and they're just Alpha Widows, trying to cash in way too late. I'm not a ladies man at all (yet?), but I know a bad business deal when I see one!
Rollo taught me I've been thinking correct about many things. Very reassuring, us as men, we have such few true resources that aren't warped to support the FI. I'm thankful for both books and am spamming them daily until they're memorised. If only I had them when I was 12-13...
Glad to see you executing, champ. One day, I just may join you!
(07-03-2017, 01:32 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]You can achieve trust simply by being honest, Sarge. That does not require caring about them. But I'm not sure it was, or was entirely, directed at you.
Fair enough. I thought it was so responded. If it wasn't, that is fine. No worries.
Btw Shannon, what if you have internal conflicts? Like on the one hand, I don't want to have to care, but I also don't want to hurt people, and I recognize sometimes my carelessness and IDGAF does hurt people, so I am conlflicted sometimes.