Subliminal Talk

(10-05-2016, 12:53 PM)mat422 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2016, 03:30 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]I just think that with enough willpower anything should be possible. But it seems like that isn't the case. I'm just specifically thinking of my past with girls. I was shy as kid, the hottest girls flocked to me in middle school but I didn't see it at that time and was too shy and afraid to do anything. I failed. I did what I thought was the right thing to do relating to girls in high school. And failed. I came to college and got my shit together, come to cusp of success repeatedly with hot girls. But still somehow, almost like some force was holding me back, failed. No one can tell me anything about willpower. But I see that willpower isn't the unstoppable thing I've always thought it to be. I thought willpower and correct actions always guaranteed results, but I was wrong. I don't care what others say. Being "cool" or "popular" doesn't really mean shit with regards to women.

Willpower is great, but in my experience it doesn't last. Willpower is like manual override for your behavior, but eventually it switches back. Good in a pinch, but no long term solution. But you've got determination and strength which keeps you going. If you didn't have these things you would have given up a long time ago.

As for true power, you're already on the path to that. True power is just the result of having cleared so much of your limiting beliefs that you see no limitations. When your conscious and subconscious work together to bring about something instead of the whole tug of war thing that often goes on. Have you read reality transurfing at all? The author discusses this. It's the difference between inner and outer intention. Inner intention you fight to change things, you exert tremendous willpower because you don't believe such things are possible. Outer intention is understanding that all things are possible, you just have to set the intention and allow it to unfold in your life. You don't fight to make it happen because you know it will happen. A lot of this is releasing the beliefs that paint reality as a hard, blood sweat and tears struggle and accepting that it's only one interpretation of how reality is. Something that I personally have had tremendous difficulty carrying out. We tend to see reality through the filter of all we've absorbed throughout our lives and most of us only see pain and struggle. That's the truth to us and anything else is wishful thinking or delusion. But the real delusion is not taking advantage of the fact that our own realities are highly malleable and choosing to stay in a reality that is full of pain.

Having said that, I think the fastest road to claiming that true power is to get into the habit of questioning what you hold as truth vs what is your personal belief. I'll give you a personal example to emphasize how powerful it can be. I used to struggle with depression a lot. I spent a lot of time on forums where people stated it was a disease and a defect in the brain, it couldn't be cured, you just learned to live with it, it was genetic, etc. That was my truth for years and it prevented me from moving on from it. The hard part when we do this is we aren't aware that these are merely beliefs, we think they are reality and don't question it enough. So we get stuck and can't move on, but at the same time we don't know what it is we need to change.

Sorry for the length, I get carried away sometimes because I've been on a quest for that true power for a long time now and I like to drop in my 2 cents whenever possible if I think it'll help.

You have no reason to apologize. Thanks.

I've seen "Reality Transurfing" mentioned often on the forum but haven't read the book myself. If it has really made a difference for so many people, I should at least give it a read.

I think that the only real thing I feel I've been fighting for in my life is all related to social circumstances and girls. With regards to my career, it sounds more like it's an outer intention from what you described. I definitely feel the difference between the two. But yeah, if Reality Transurfing leads to the true power, I'I'll definitely read it.

Thanks again man.

(10-05-2016, 02:54 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-05-2016, 12:53 PM)mat422 Wrote: [ -> ]

(10-04-2016, 03:30 PM)maxx55 Wrote: [ -> ]I just think that with enough willpower anything should be possible. But it seems like that isn't the case. I'm just specifically thinking of my past with girls. I was shy as kid, the hottest girls flocked to me in middle school but I didn't see it at that time and was too shy and afraid to do anything. I failed. I did what I thought was the right thing to do relating to girls in high school. And failed. I came to college and got my shit together, come to cusp of success repeatedly with hot girls. But still somehow, almost like some force was holding me back, failed. No one can tell me anything about willpower. But I see that willpower isn't the unstoppable thing I've always thought it to be. I thought willpower and correct actions always guaranteed results, but I was wrong. I don't care what others say. Being "cool" or "popular" doesn't really mean shit with regards to women.

Willpower is great, but in my experience it doesn't last. Willpower is like manual override for your behavior, but eventually it switches back. Good in a pinch, but no long term solution. But you've got determination and strength which keeps you going. If you didn't have these things you would have given up a long time ago.

As for true power, you're already on the path to that. True power is just the result of having cleared so much of your limiting beliefs that you see no limitations. When your conscious and subconscious work together to bring about something instead of the whole tug of war thing that often goes on. Have you read reality transurfing at all? The author discusses this. It's the difference between inner and outer intention. Inner intention you fight to change things, you exert tremendous willpower because you don't believe such things are possible. Outer intention is understanding that all things are possible, you just have to set the intention and allow it to unfold in your life. You don't fight to make it happen because you know it will happen. A lot of this is releasing the beliefs that paint reality as a hard, blood sweat and tears struggle and accepting that it's only one interpretation of how reality is. Something that I personally have had tremendous difficulty carrying out. We tend to see reality through the filter of all we've absorbed throughout our lives and most of us only see pain and struggle. That's the truth to us and anything else is wishful thinking or delusion. But the real delusion is not taking advantage of the fact that our own realities are highly malleable and choosing to stay in a reality that is full of pain.

Having said that, I think the fastest road to claiming that true power is to get into the habit of questioning what you hold as truth vs what is your personal belief. I'll give you a personal example to emphasize how powerful it can be. I used to struggle with depression a lot. I spent a lot of time on forums where people stated it was a disease and a defect in the brain, it couldn't be cured, you just learned to live with it, it was genetic, etc. That was my truth for years and it prevented me from moving on from it. The hard part when we do this is we aren't aware that these are merely beliefs, we think they are reality and don't question it enough. So we get stuck and can't move on, but at the same time we don't know what it is we need to change.

Sorry for the length, I get carried away sometimes because I've been on a quest for that true power for a long time now and I like to drop in my 2 cents whenever possible if I think it'll help.

You have no reason to apologize. Thanks.

I've seen "Reality Transurfing" mentioned often on the forum but haven't read the book myself. If it has really made a difference for so many people, I should at least give it a read.

I think that the only real thing I feel I've been fighting for in my life is all related to social circumstances and girls. With regards to my career, it sounds more like it's an outer intention from what you described. I definitely feel the difference between the two. But yeah, if Reality Transurfing leads to the true power, I'I'll definitely read it.

Thanks again man.

No prob, anytime. It's a bit of a hefty read but it goes very in depth, so if you're the type of person that likes knowing the finer details of stuff it's definitely the book for you.

7th MONTH!!!!

Well due to a series of unexpected events (aka the hurricane), I'm now spending time with my family in a safe location. When I found out I was going to be with the family for a while, I had some major resistance. That's much better now though.

I'm still having some kind of resistance dealing with one specific girl and girls in general. It's still about how I haven't had the fun in college that I intended to and I know that time is running out.

For some reason, I've felt compelled to really look at all of my options in terms of mind programming and moving forward to achieve the fun I want in college. In my experience with subliminals, Shannon's goes the deepest. Since I believe that Shannon's subs are the best in the sub industry, I only looked at hypnosis cds. I've had some fast noticeable external results from one hypnosis CD set I used. Since it was noticeable and worked, then I looked into other hypnosis CD's from the better producers in their industry. Not naming any, but I have 6 other options to choose from for achieving success with girls.

Of course, DMSI is my first choice. I will use that first, but if it doesn't produce results for me, then I will be using hypnosis CDs. Regardless, I will accomplish what I intend to.

Really at this point, E2 feels like "How much can you take" instead of "Let me remove the pain". I'm only really sticking with it because I'm consistent.

Today while out at the grocery store and getting stuff I need with my parents, I kept thinking of bending over girls that looked remotely attractive and fucking them. I wanted to grab the big boobs I saw, motorboat them and then titty-fuck. Again, I didn't masturbate to porn for almost two weeks so that may be part of it, but come on E2. Come on. Don't let me feel like fucking this much and not even provide a girl

Other news
I hope Shannon makes a Develop Maximum Sexual and Romantic Irresistibility soon after DMSI is finished. That's what I'd really want because I think it'd allow more flexibility with steering relationships. I just don't want any BS like manifesting girls that find me "romantically irresistible" but not "sexually irresistible". I don't see why adding a line like "the responders feel the same level of romantic feelings as the user" to DMSI would be that bad. No romantic feelings from user? None from responder. Feelings from user? Feelings from responder. But it just seems like it would cause a conflict in the script for whatever reason. If it can "gender neutral" why can't it be "romantically neutral". But whatev.

7 Month Comments!
The post is out of order now, but I just realized today marks my 7th month of using E2! I'm so glad that I somehow had the will to keep with it for this long. Sometimes I wonder if I've really been on it for this long, and yeah I have. Started on March 6th, release date.

So glad I'm 7 months in! This has been a very very slow journey, but here I am. I've been facing stupid thoughts and fears that never consciously came into mind before. It's as annoying as fuck, but just knowing I endured all that shit for all this time I'm glad. That may be a bit masochistic, but whatev. I'm SO ready to get off of this. SO READY.

But it seems like I'm only now just even seeing the energy effects from it. And it's not consistent. There are so many times I think that E2 is just BS, mental masturbation that's not actually going to remove trauma. Either Shannon is good making up stuff to describe the process of E2 or it has been working for me but slowly (which gets on my nerves something fierce). It has to be the latter because of the shared experiences I've had with the other E2 users. This has been such a brutal experience overall with windows of hope every so often. I still have some GSF but it's pretty much just related to my lack of success with girls.

My current plan is to read Reality Transurfing, meditate, and then use DMSI. I really thought about doing 9 months of E2, but no. Fuck that. FUCK THAT! Only 1 more month at most, then I'm done. Last stretch

Past few days I noticed that general anxiety along with GSF is lower. I'm with family and believe it or not I use to feel a lot of anxiety when being around family I haven't seen in a while. This hasn't been the case recently. I also noticed I've been a little more at ease in public. That's good.

I've also been thinking more sexual thoughts in public. I see a nice rack and want to grab and motorboat and suck on 'em.

Unrelated

Yeah, the time is almost here. Almost ready to run DMSI. I have a few questions for Shannon before I make the purchase, which will be soon. If DMSRI is going to be released in the forseeable future or is going to be tested alongside v3.x, I'll totally go for that instead.

Greenduck made a post that compared being on E2 to being a driver in a race and waiting for it to be upgraded and repaired. Perfect analogy. I've recently been thinking to myself that with all I've done in the past, I've been going 120%, but at the same time I'm pulling a ton of weight with me. I still made strides with all that weight to carry. Doing E2, I've slowed down and am going at maybe 40-50% which feels slow and unusual for me. But once I'm done with E2 and I get back up to speed at 120%, I should be flying, progressing at excellent speeds, handling everything much better.

It seems like astrology has validity. About 85-90% of what I read for myself based on my chart is dead on. I'm glad there's nothing there about having trouble with women. But it really just seems like I'm good at manifesting things based on deep deep subconscious beliefs. And it hasn't been that easy for my subconscious to let go of the past. Once the past has been let go, and I've changed those deep beliefs, I should be highly effective at creating the life I want to live. I just have to let go.

I've also been getting turned on in public by seeing attractive girls. Almost got a semi today getting my haircut since the barber was a kinda attractive lady. Crazily enough, my Mars on my natal chart totally explains why I have the kind of aggressive sexual thoughts I do.

Other news
Shannon totally surprised me saying that he was going to work on/release DMSI 2.5 tonight. I saw it on my phone and was like "Oh, if I want healing I better get this right now." So I did. I officially have DMSI v2.4. I'm not using it yet of course, but soon. As long as 2.5 actually helps Shannon collect data for 3.x, then that's great.

My theory on why some people do better on the non-healing version
So this is my take on maybe how DMSI works. It's just a theory. Maybe the healing version requires everything to be healed to the point that when it does short-circuit, BOOM 0-100 instantly. But it seems like it may be "testing" aura generation every so often. That explains the unpredictable but short lived bursts of results. The script may go "Heal. Heal. Heal. Test execution. Execution not at 100%, continue healing..." That's all I can come up with. Bogdy who stuck with 2.3 apparently gets consistent results, but it's not accomplishing the end goal. I take this as he has healed to be able to execute 55% of the full program's scripting and that's the cap until he heals further. If this is the case, I see why Shannon would release a version with clearing and one without. At least you can use the one without like if you had a night out planned or a date and know you'd execute at least something.

Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see. It's disappointing that DMSRI isn't even guaranteed to be created, but that's part of the reason I jumped and bought 2.4 now.

Anyway, I'm sure that once I start 2.4/2.5 that Shannon will get plenty of data. I come across attractive girls almost every day, so this will be interesting.

P.S. I've been doing the masked track solo the past few days. I'm gonna stick with it for a little while. It feels more soothing and I feel like I'm getting more out of it right now.

Okay. Let's recap. So over the weekend, I feel pretty anxiety-free around my family, which was an improvement. I felt less GSF in general in public, especially when I get turned on, which was an improvement. I even get back to my place and even knowing that I still have those stupid roommates of mine who are annoying, I still had that content/everything is gonna be good feeling. I went to sleep and had such a great sleep despite getting to bed later than expected!

Today everything was going fine. Until I get an email from a teacher about how I have to lead a discussion in class this week. It soon went to the back of my mind and I didn't focus on it. Then I get to my dance class, and repeatedly failed to do the moves we were being taught, only doing it right a few times with bad form. And that's when it ALL went to shit. I didn't wanna be there, I didn't wanna talk to anyone, and I wanted to set the place on fire. COME ON! I just had a weekend that made me feel like I made progress and then this shit happens. GIVE ME A FUCKIN BREAK!

It seems like it's the environment that's triggering me. This is such BS. Something else that pissed me off was on the bus ride home, some girl was on the phone, telling her girlfriend about how she doesn't like some guy because he wears skinny jeans! I wanted to slap her and tell her STFU! It really annoyed me.

Unrelated

I'm THIS close to running DMSI. My life, fucking people, and E2 are starting to piss me off. I want run DMSI and be the singing happy sexy mofo I know I am with ultra celebrity treatment. E2 is irritating me. I've been healing for 7 fucking months. This shit is old. I'm ready to move on and enjoy my college life. I'm sick of putting it on hold. I'm sick of dealing with emotional shit while trying to be attentive and alert for all the shit I have to do. And I'm sick of not progressing in the areas of my life that are important to me. And most of all I'm sick as fuck of not having the social life that I could if I didn't have so much shit to do.

P.S. Just started reading reality transurfing. I'm gonna transurf out of this one asap.

I got the "bloom" effect when I stopped E2. It's like all the benefits that occurred "under the hood," came to life. It was pretty amazing. Then, I dove into AOSI - and of course - the rollercoaster began all over again.

I totally think you should stop E2 now and hop on the DMSI train. The best thing about these single stage programs is that you can switch back if you feel the need.

(10-10-2016, 03:45 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]I got the "bloom" effect when I stopped E2. It's like all the benefits that occurred "under the hood," came to life. It was pretty amazing. Then, I dove into AOSI - and of course - the rollercoaster began all over again.

I totally think you should stop E2 now and hop on the DMSI train. The best thing about these single stage programs is that you can switch back if you feel the need.

Hm...it's something to consider. How long of a rest off of E2 did you take to see the bloom effect?

I may take that break and see how I am. Regardless I expect my life to be better without the nonstop emotional turmoil and creativity blockages that E2 causes while running, but if the emotional issues go away then I'll know it's time to move on without a doubt.

So today was interesting. I woke up earlier than usual to take care of stuff I had to get done. A bunch of little things all built up and put me in a bad mood emotionally. I went through a cascade of negative emotions and thoughts. Instead of feeling any specific emotion, I just generally felt "bad" but had thoughts that I normally would have when I'm angry or distressed. This lasted until near the end of my last class. Then it shifted to a grounded feeling. This is the fastest time since I've been on E2 that I've gone from "Today sucks. I hate life. I don't want to be" to "Yeah, I got this!/Let's have fun".

It's legit crazy how much work I have to do this week, but I guess I'll find a way.

Interestingly, in the past, when I slipped in ultrasonic over the weekend my Monday would be pretty okay. This time I didn't use as much US as I usually do and my Monday wasn't that great. But usually by Wednesday my feeling of contentment tends to go away until the weekend comes and I do the whole thing over again. This time, it's been coming and going throughout the week so far. So I think masked solo is the way to go for now.

Other news

I looked on the forum. I asked for Shannon's opinion. And others have given me their opinion. I will still think this over a little longer when I have time, but as of right now, I plan on stopping E2 this Saturday and doing DMSI the following saturday. 2.4, with the healing. I will list my reasons below. Feel free to comment.

2.4
People seem to at the very least be clearing and healing and those who interact with others often say that it's improving their mood. Along with this, the same people are reporting occasional "results" or what they believe to be results. This includes basic commo IOI's and the rare "noticeable" IOI. Most users are getting these results.

A few users are getting what I consider the baseline of the of the program's goal: they're getting girls to approach them once in a while.

Most users who have felt the aura or used most of the versions agree that 2.1 was the most blatant with the responses. If I could, I'd definitely test 2.1 for myself. But I think that 2.1 proves that Shannon can accomplish this. Especially since it was one of the earlier versions. So I'm thinking that if he really goes all out for 3.x, he'll hit the mark. 2.1 seems like it was so close and it didn't even have all the tech that 2.4 has or even what 3.0 will have.

But I feel that if I do 2.4 and I clear some stuff and more importantly feel good while I run it, then it'll be worth my time to use it before 2.5/3.0. I'll give it a couple more days and if I don't change my mind, then that's what I'll be doing.

Been super busy today. Had to work with a friend for a project, it was fun coming it with ideas. It's the most fun I've had in a couple weeks, but I still have a hell of a lot more stuff to do

Of course this means less hours today, but oh well. Can't control that.

Unrelated
I'm glad to see that even though 2.5+'s energy sourcing will be focused on the long term that nothing is wrong with 2.4.

I think it'll be fun and worthwhile. In the reports I've read it doesn't seem to slow people down mentally like E2 does, which is great and would totally be a HUGE improvement for me.

So guys. Get this. Today was a day of classes, but I actually enjoyed it more than I disliked it! This hasn't happened since the first week of the semester.

I think it's partly because I only did like 2.5 hrs of E2 yesterday instead of my usual 6-7. So today REALLY reminded me of the time back when I was always on point with my game. I had to give a presentation today with my friend I mentioned yesterday. I felt a bit nervous at times because it's mostly me talking and engaging, but afterwards we were told it was the best on yet! Teacher even let us go longer than the standard time since it was so good. I felt good afterwards. It was great!

What's interesting is that I've never been in that flow state of talking to people without feeling a kind of frenetic energy. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the frenetic energy itself as it was like a warmth in my chest. But now for the first time I see that I can be in the flow without emotionally feeling that way. It's great to know.

Honestly, I feel like since I had this experience on the day my hours went lower, it just goes to show that I'm totally ready to move on from E2. I felt less anxious in my first class and did a good presentation in my second. This all happened after getting in less E2 hours. Righteous.

I will, however be finishing off strong with my E2 hours before I stop so that I can get even more processed during my week off. This is great.

Other news
I found it funny that DMSI 2.5 just became available a couple hours ago when it's been uploaded since this morning lol. From Shannon's first post, it sounds like the aura powers up without making the user hungry. Awesome. I will still be sticking with 2.4 however for at least a month.

Living situation should be taken care of soon which is fantastic. Regardless, I still have a bunch of work to do, but at least I'll have an environment conducive to me getting it all done.

Well this is it. Today is my last planned day for E2. I've ran it for about a total of 7.5 months.

Funny enough, my creativity was flowing from me yesterday when I had a project to finish up and turn in. I had little problem just putting my thoughts on paper, which was a surprise for me. Especially considering how yesterday I got a higher number of hours in.

I'll admit, I went ham on porn for a little bit. As I've already said, my sex drive is high. I only watch porn once a week, no more than twice and even after I'm done, I still have sex dreams at night. Crazy. If this is some kind of "emotional" thing (doubt it, it's simply sex drive) then I'm sure DMSI 2.4 will handle it.

Also, I've been in a pretty okay mood for the past few days. Maybe masked solo was always the best choice for me with this sub.

I've been sticking to my short workouts every day. Only a couple of times did I forget/time things wrong and was unable to do them. Today, however, I'm taking a rest day because I feel my body needs to recover.

Oh yeah, I think some random girl smiled and waved to me as we crossed the street going in opposite directions. I really wasn't sure. I just smiled and a few seconds later turned around to look. There were 2 people walking on the other side but I didn't think to watch to see if she was going towards either of them. But at this point, I'm thinking it was me.

Other News
I'm super excited reading other's experiences with 2.4's healing. It seems like even though it's all focused on achieving the program goals, it still noticeably affects other parts of life, which is great.

I woke up late today so I'm gonna run E2 for a few hours and then stop.

I had a little bit of time to finally play FNAF Sister Location. Maybe it's because of how long I ran this program or that I'm just used to FNAF games, but I'm never feel afraid playing it. I get startled for a second when an unpredicted jumpscare happens, but not scared.

Wow, I feel so relieved and loose right now about having finished E2. Like just knowing that I have a week free of having to squeeze in hours feels nice!

The great thing is that DMSI 2.4 only needs 5 loops so that's about 5 consecutive hours. It should be easier to get in than what I've been doing with E2.

Here's a short review of what I overall think of E2. If this changes a week from now, I'll add on to it.

Review
At first, it seemed like nothing was happening when I started E2. I didn't feel that bad. Over time, it got worse. I felt worse and worse. First it was ridiculous rage towards girls in general. Then it was dealing with things that happened in the past, then boredom, then lack of a social life, then thinking of all I've done and how I'm not where I felt I should have been, then more current circumstances and how bleak they look. As Shannon said, it cuts open the wound and it has to get worse before it can get better.

I had SERIOUS doubts the sub did anything for me. SERIOUS, SERIOUS doubt that I'd ever break the barrier that holds me back. As of right now I don't feel that way anymore. I saw my astrology chart, which I thought was going to say that I'm stuck with a bad life, but from what I read from it and what others commented, it says that I have great potential, I can be incredibly powerful and successfull. I just need to let go of the past and that all of the pain that I've been through from my past is what sets me up to transform and overcome and become powerful. I need to let go of the past first before that can happen.

And funny enough, this week has been the best week I've been on E2 in a very long time. And seeing now as how my sex drive seems to have been spiked, DMSI is in the middle of testing, how I see concrete changes with how others socially interact with me, and how soon after I decided to get off E2 my everything in my life quickly seemed to get better, the sub is definitely leading me to move on.

The most concrete change is how sometimes guys will open doors for me or say something like "have a good one" while I get off the elevator. It's subtle, but it's respect. I never got this kind of response without using mones. Even though it was much more consistent and frequent with mones, just that I'm getting this kind of response at all without them really shows change (Haven't used mones at all in a really long time).

Also, sometimes female workers or random girls will have initiate short convos with me. I'd assume in the past that meant she wanted me since it never happened, but that doesn't seem to be the case or I'm just expecting something more obvious. Anyhow, in the past, girls never initiated convos with me before I started wearing mones. If they were a friend, then yeah, but never randoms.

Seeing the subtle, but noticeable changes in social responses from a program not even focused on that really makes me think that Shannon will get DMSI to execute it's goal scripting. I look forward to providing feedback. I plan on doing 2.4 for at least a month, maybe until 3.0 is out. Will be starting 10/22.

I think running V2.4 is a smart move, especially coming off of E2. Just be aware, E2 had stuff to blot out the pain from your conscious mind. V2.4 does not. It can be hell. But when the smoke clears, it's glorious, dude. Man, if I could have had these tools when I was in college...