Subliminal Talk

I'm curious what the 4th stage focuses on.

R u doing sky again or grounding? Nearing the end of the 2ND stage I certainly feel indifferent, confident, and when I engage women things go well but I wouldn't exactly say women problems r I thing of the past-ina way IM to withdrawn

Roy is further along than I am on stage 4 but to me thus far, stage 4 is feeling like more of the same with regards to stage 3.

I'm doing a few mirror affirmations, but nothing about women really. They're more general affirmations about feeling good about myself than anything else. That's something you really can't affirm enough. I wouldn't say the fact that women problems are kind of a thing of the past comes directly from the subs. That was something I spent a few years actually working on with my group of friends actually. We spent a lot of time reframing all of our beliefs that didn't serve us and forging a very powerful mindset. The subs did put my progress on crack, though. They have been a great and very valuable resource. As far as the rest of my mindset goes, we actually recorded a few podcasts the other night for fun and to help some other people out. I'll give to anyone that wants it. It's pretty funny.


@Ronatello-Sounds good. 3rd stage was some good growth for me.

How long is the podcast?? and I'd be interested in listening to it.

I'd love to heart the podcast
where can I listen to it?

I put it on facebook. There's the link below.

The facebook page of which it's name contains curse words and therefore cannot post here

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It's like 45 minutes, btw.

It hasn't exactly been an easy month, but needless to say, I have been feeling pretty well. In the past, if all these things came my way at once, I would sink in to a deep depression and although I feel it a little bit from time to time, all in all, I'm pretty zen. I do have bursts of anger come up from time to time, but they feel pretty deep seated like something that may be being brought to the surface by the subliminal. Stage 4 is pretty intense for me. I like what this program is doing to me, though, I have no doubt that it works incredibly well.

Lately I've been very indifferent to unimportant things and able to better sort out the things that I put my attention on that actually have a point and the things that are essentially meaningless. I've been able to multi task way better and I swear I am getting smarter alll the time. My increased focus and intelligence is really starting to impress me. I am becoming way more assertive, but even though, I still have a problem with procrastination. I might add in Seize the day at some point if I feel it's neccesary. People around here seem to like it, I've always had a huge procrastination problem, but maybe the alpha will help with that by itself. I do feel it lessening somewhat, maybe I'm just impatient,lol.

I've been REALLY indifferent to women lately and of coruse like they do, women are throwing themselves at me because of it. I'd just rather spend time with my family and friends lately. That seems more satisfying to me than hanging out with any woman. I had an interesting night with a girl last week. A girl that I know from Texas gives me a call and says that she's in Oklahoma and if she can stay on my couch so, I'm like "Yeah, ok, why not." Apparently her boyfriend or soulmate or whatever stupid crap she attached to this guy, cheated on her. She told my friend this, not me, because she knew what my reaction would be i.e. "So what?" and her first thought was to come to Oklahoma and stay the night with me. So she came over, I built us a fire and we watched some Netflix on the Wii in my living room(I LOVE NETFIX). I wanted to watch Harry and The Hendersons, so I threw that on knowing full well that we were about to get down and dirty. I'm ridiculous, but I just thought it would be hilarious to throw on Harry and The Hendersons and then start going at it. Needless to say, she didn't sleep on my couch, but we didn't go much further than messing around either. She's a mormon and therefore against sex without some kind of intense attachment. Poor girl, she's so neurotic because of it, so ready to get to get attached to someone. It's sad really. Everything is the end of the world with someone like that and she really can't handle me because I am so unnatached to everything. It was an odd night, but a funny one nonetheless...

Again, I will say that this is a rough stage, but it seems to be working through a lot of deep rooted issues and that is good. I know feel driven to take care of problems and not give myself the satisfaction of any kind of reward until I do take care of said problems. I want to succeed in all of my endeavors more than ever before and I feel as if I really can do anything I put my to which is not something I've felt in the past. That's mainly because of my family, stomping any ambition I've ever had and telling why things are bad and gonna get worse, but I'm not mad at them for it. They were operating on auto pilot and they are also slowly pulling themselves out of their despair and of course, as I always have felt the need to do, I help them in any way I can.

One thing lately that has been absolutely hilarious to me is the sheer abundance of women that I have found thrown in my path. I met one recently and we immediately had that connection. She asked me what I was doing for New Years and I said "Nothing yet, why did you have something in mind?" and she started giggling and turned red. I told her to find something fun for us to do and let me know, but nothing like a dive bar or anything like that. I wanted something classy that we had to dress up for. So a few days later she calls me and tells me that she found a masquerade ball to go to. I'm heading to that tonight with her, it should be ridiculous. I'll take some good pictures. Other than her, there's just been a lot of women throwing themselves at me lately, whether it be outwardly asking me to do stuff or being really feminine and passive about it. I'm getting very good at the eye game and it happens every where I go. The alpha set has definitely increased my presence with women. I had another amazing experience with this girl at the supermarket yesterday, that one will be interesting to pursue in the future.

There is a small conflict , though. While I do attract women like crazy, I absolutely despise dates. I want them to come over to my house, preferably with wine and then we can watch a movie and do whatever...or not, but I'm not a fan of pretense, there is either intense passion or not at all with me. I don't like to draw things out. Traditional dates drive me nuts, and most of the time I'd rather do nothing at all than go on one, unless it was something that I was already going out to do or wanted to do anyway, then she can come along. I find myself being more and more honest with girls. I like for them to decide if they hate me or love me right of the bat, so I just tell them what I'm all about. I'm just not the boyfriend type right now, and that's not even saying that I may ever be. I tell them that I will only promise them today because that's all I have to give. I really don't like to commit to seeing a girl day in and day out, having her call me on the phone, wanting to know what I'm doing etc. So at the very least I can tell them who I am, hell, sometimes I have them fan The Modern Libertine facebook page before I even get to know them. If they don't back off in horror after that, then they must really like me, lol. Honesty is the best policy. Anyway, that's conflict, that I'm attracting a lot of girls, but I hate dating and enjoy my freedom more than anything. I don't think it's a huge conflict really. I will just continue what I am doing and refine it from there. At least I'm being honest with these girls.

Best New Years Eve ever...and I'll leave it at that.

I'm liking the Carpe Diem sub a lot. I commend Shannon on a job well done. I can tell that it is already doing things to me and it gives me a great feeling inside while listening to it. It's also great to listen to while I work out. It seems like I push myself a lot harder than normal.

I'll start stage 5 Alpha tomorrow. Let's see what it has in store.

Haha your podcast was sweet
very much in the style of the infamous Brent Smith
except group style.
(I heard it a while back just commenting on it now)
Carpe diem really seems to compliment Alpha
can you describe a summation of the effects of stage 3 for u please
I cant really tell whats its doing, I definitely feel something at times, and times it feels like nothing. Just curious on what your take on it was.
Also I know you've been a stud with women for a while, but how does stage 4 seem to effect
women in your life? I remember wildflower said in the 2009 set he started approaching automatically and getting some internal "boost" from it. Is this the case for your stage four? He also said it was the stage that really started to enhanced his presence and ease with women.
Stage three is actually making me want to ground and do magnetic mindset mirror stuff more and more and I really enjoy doing that stuff, but I feel like I'm building myself into this untouchable tantalizing price, since unless I'm partying or introduced I really have no interest in talking to women and I'm hoping the later stages of alpha will help with this a bit.

Thanks! Those are a lot of fun to record. Hopefully we do a good job of conveying our mindsets through all of our vulgar analogies, lol.


I wouldn't say I've been a stud for a while. I just cultivated what worked for me and it was really just hit or miss, because sometimes I still had neediness. I used Magnetic Mindset and Brent Smiths methods. Even so, their methods can take a little while for deep rooted change so that's why I'm glad I came across this stuff.

It's hard for me to really notice what these stages do for me. I think I really became more peaceful and present in stage 3. There were times when I felt like a caged beast and then I would release it all and feel amazing the next day. I felt a strong tugging on my solar plexus most of the time, feeling as if I should be doing something and then that would release and I would be peaceful again. When stage 3 really became assimilated, things started slowing down around me and I was able to disconnect from the behaviors that I had that really served no good purpose and that continued in to stage 4. At the beginning of stage 4, I was feeling entirely indifferent to women. I go through these stages. Sometimes, I feel like an absolute ladies man and other days I just to feel entirely indifferent to them all and I want them to leave me alone. I think it's neccesary for men to take breaks from women. In body and mind. It's rejuvanating for me at least. So I was going through that stage at the beginning of stage 4 where I was completely at peace with myself. I felt SO at peace with myself at the beginning of the month. I don't think I wrote about it but I really should have because I felt like I released so much stuff that I was in the moment all the time and I was getting crazy attraction from girls as a result, but that really didn't matter to me then because I felt so good that I didn't need anything from them. That went away in the later half of stage 4 and was replaced by a powerful sexual energy.

I did start approaching girls more come to think of it, but even more so than that, my ability to play the eye game got ridiculously better. It's almost the feeling that I have the power to look in to a girls soul when I have it turned on. I've been attracting a lot of girls lately with little to no effort and I would say that the alpha set is largely to blame for that. I met a really amazing one last week as a matter of fact that I really enjoy spending time with. The quality of women that I am attracting is much better now too. I really believe that you generally attract people at your level and also, I can see crazy girls from a mile away.


So stages 3 and 4 were incredibly powerful for me. I was going through some stressful stuff last month and whereas in the past this kind of stuff would have really stressed me out, I was totally cool the whole time. I really don't get stressed like I used to. That's another amazing thing I have noticed. I have enjoyed the alpha set alot so far. I think Shannon's made an amazing product. I'm almost tempted to do the whole thing over again once I'm done.

Thanks for posing this! I was trying to figure out what I was feeling today exactly. And for the first time I felt peace, serenity, and bad ass-ness on a subtle level consistently all day. And I've been wondering how to describe it. I think the bad ass-ness has to do with letting go of any neediness and replacing it with strong indifference to all situations. But my gaze is as hypnotizing as ever and it's very natural for me at this stage in the journey. And I love everyone. or atleast I show the love. But again when it comes to women I don't make it a thing to want to hang out with them or flirt. I think about it.. but I don't do it. Of course when I'm out I flirt with all the women just using my eyes such as cashiers, waitresses, or bartendresses. I don't go talk to them for the sake of talking to them and I don't give them out my number. I may still be hung up on some of the past experiences I've gone through but regardless it doesn't bother me anymore which is nice.

Today was a very nice day for me.

..and I'll post this up in my journal for my records.