Subliminal Talk

(11-30-2012, 07:12 AM)Ryan Wrote: [ -> ]Sick, LM!

Can I officially be known as the reviver of the WM series? ;P

That's a good ego boost, yes!

Ryan

Sadly Ryan I am the official reviver of the WM series so all the ego boost drifts my way

LM, those results are nothing short of amazing! I can't wait to start WM. Your stories give me cause to reconsider my next sub...

Tonight was another great night. A random very cute and sincere girl came up to me and said I was very hot and just kept being in my presence. We kissed. I'll elaborate tomorrow when I've regained myself...

I'm glad to see you're enjoying yourself. With results like this so soon, I'm guessing it's gonna get downright freaky awesome by the end.

Shannon, this is already pretty cool and I've been listening to it less than 10 days.. and there are still 22 to go.. and there are 5 stages more..




Stage 1 - Day 8,


Yesterday night I was out with two great buddies and we went to different bars. Many things happened before but can't tell you all the details but you can guess some out of what I've noticed of change.

Anyways we were on our regular bar at a point. A blonde on the way to go downstairs told my tall friend that he was hot.

Me and my two buddies go downstairs. My tall friend sat by a table while me and our other friend was on the dance-floor. The blonde from before danced closer and closer to us with her brunette friend. The blonde made a quick movement with her hand to feel my friends crotch and a bit later mine.

I told her something along like what Shannon have said, "Why is it that girls can grope guys and guys can't grope guys and it is totally unacceptable?

She said something and then she said, "I wont touch you anymore"

Then I replied, "I take that as an insult"

Her, "No. it's a compliment"

She disappeared suddenly but her brunette friend was still there.

Anyways, I was talking to my tall friend and we were going to leave and then suddenly this cute, petite dark skinned girl came up to me and told me I was very hot in a very vulnerable, sincere way.

Her friend, whom was with her the whole night took her away (My friend told me about that. I had first noticed the girl there).

So I kept talking with my friend. He asked me what happened and I said, nothing really but she wanted to f*** me. When I said that she stood just behind me by herself.

We talked very little, me and her, she felt around my body and complimented it. She said she was nervous because I was so hot. So I kissed her but she weren't much into it. "Was that better?" she was like no in her vulnerable way. So I made a little fun out of myself and she laughed a bit.

Anyways, I wasn't very attracted to her (I've become a very lazy lover ) and we were on our way to the next place and she was going to another place with her friends. Gave her my number but haven't heard from her.

Going out again tonight with some friends


Positive changes I've noticed so far,

- Voice is much improved, more resonant, more loud

- Much more in the moment - hitting eye-contact with a girl and immediately start saying something (which is incredibly effective)

- Attachment is not noticeable

- Much more smooth in an interaction with a girl

- Caring so much less that I often sense I am a bit of an asshole

Once upon a time there were two guys, whose names were Shannon and Shawn. Shannon was a nice guy, and Shawn was an asshole to all the boys and girls.

Guess who could pull lingerie models into bed within hours of receiving a wrong number phone call from them, the bastard.

Girls will go for assholes, but the better bet is to be a genuine leader. Assholes are "false positives", so to speak. I suspect you think of yourself as being a little bit of an asshole because you are now acting in ways that you defined as "asshole" when other guys did it. It may or may not be asshole, but when you're less invested than she is, you win.

The amount of asshole doesn't matter, they all pull women. The question for you is, are you pulling the women you want to be pulling at the level of "asshole" you're expressing? Too much and all you get is the broken ones. But again... genuine leader is better. I think you're going to find that's where you end up.

WM 2.0 in 5G is pretty good, no? It better be, as much work as it required to build.

If it's good? Well...


I am really doing the advertising for this subliminal! lol.

... On my way home from her place I visited burger king and I had the best whopper in my life. Later I almost got into a car-accident.

Just met another cute blonde last night and we ended up at her place. It was with minimal effort and she was supposed to leave with her friend. I'll elaborate when I get time...

This sub seems to get better and better

Last night I met up with a great friend of mine, his sister and his girlfriend at the cocktail bar I am voluntarily promoting for. A great place for warming up.

We got some high-quality cocktails and headed to our regular bar. I was hungry so I went to get something to eat while they went inside. When I came in they were sitting at a table with two girls I didn't knew. A cute blonde and a brunette. I quickly realized that my friends had also just met them.

(Anyways, I don't know what it is with this subliminal but women see something in my eyes now, something I had before I got twisted in my beliefs and it is very seductive to them)

I knew who I wanted of these two. My friends sister was sitting beside the blonde. She had to get a new drink, so I took her place and I was suddenly talking with the blonde

Everything went very natural, I was non-needy, I enjoyed my time and I was a bit playful. She began to punch me lightly. While I was getting to know this girl, her friend, the brunette one, who was interested in my friend, found out that the girl next to him was his girlfriend, so she got totally down and boring and eventually made the blonde girl feel bad about it, so they went downstairs.

I was like, hmm.. it went well.. now what? and forgot about it. Things was stall when they left so I told my friends girlfriend to go downstairs and dance.

We danced but without much emotion in it. Just didn't feel it. GF close friend was coming and she had to talk on the phone with her, so we went upstairs again.

A bit later we went down again and I saw the blonde from before. We hit eye-contact and I automatically moved from GF to her and we danced. She puts her arm around me and said, "I've always wanted to dance like this" her head besides mine. Her arms on my shoulders. The music were rolling but we were moving in our own speed, intimately, slowly and closely.

Me: "Yeah ok. You get one dance"

She smiled satisfied. 15 seconds in I said, "Times up"

can't remember what happened but we began to kiss.

Asked her about logistics. She was living with two guys in an apartment. But she also told me that she was going to another guy tonight to sleep at his house.

I played offended and "why are you doing this with me then??" which she answered, "I don't know.. you are just so sweet!"

Gave her my number she didn't have her phone on her, it was in her jacket, so I got hers. Her: "Text me!!"

I head back upstairs to our table.

Fast forward - She was going to leave with her brunette friend. Said goodbye. Then came in again and I grabbed her hand. We begin to kiss again and she said, "The guy didn't answer me".

I'm like ok. So I'm your second best option now?

Blablabla..

She said, "text me.. text me!!" at the doors before leaving. I looked at her and looked away. I wouldn't text her and she knew that.

So I went up to get some water and I see that she was standing there at our table, haven't left with the brunette.

When I was leaving and saying goodbye, my friends girlfriend kissed me on my chin, and her friend too. They looked like they wanted a foursome or something lol.

Long adventure short: I took her to another bar and then we went home to her.


If anyone has some good stuff about giving a girl, who has never had an orgasm, have one, please let me know!

(11-30-2012, 07:12 AM)Ryan Wrote: [ -> ]Sick, LM!

Can I officially be known as the reviver of the WM series? ;P

That's a good ego boost, yes!

Ryan

Well.. it is from your journal with WM 1.0 that I already got intrigued about trying it out, so yeah.. that's accepted

LM you've come along way. Isn't WM so awesome with all the craziness that occurs? I never was one to approach or converse with women like this, but on WM suddenly I was doing so without realizing it.

Anyways,

As for her orgasms. First, I would ask her what she likes, because every woman is different and there could be other reasons why she's never had one. I will say being on Anti-depressants, I've lost that side as well, so it could be a number of problems why. Open communication with her, it's a good learning experience.

A good book I've read before was called "Sex God Method" and had some good tips for this kind of stuff. Though, I don't fully remember the stuff in it because it was more natural to me at the time. The more you do, the easier it will be making women orgasm. For me, I don't go very fast and I won't fuck her like some porn dude, hovering above her, not even touching her with the exception of his penis.

I'll lay my entire body on top of her, push it in as far as it goes, then feel her up, hold her and squeeze her with my arms, and fuck her like a beast animal. Fast isn't always better, I've experienced. Sometimes if you go slowly, pushing it as far in as possible, slowly then slowly pulling out, makes it more sensitive for both of you. You can make a woman cum very fast this way too.

Quote:Girls will go for assholes, but the better bet is to be a genuine leader. Assholes are "false positives", so to speak. I suspect you think of yourself as being a little bit of an asshole because you are now acting in ways that you defined as "asshole" when other guys did it. It may or may not be asshole, but when you're less invested than she is, you win.

The amount of asshole doesn't matter, they all pull women. The question for you is, are you pulling the women you want to be pulling at the level of "asshole" you're expressing? Too much and all you get is the broken ones. But again... genuine leader is better. I think you're going to find that's where you end up.

From what I've seen. These guys may or may not get women. It may be harder for them. For example, watching some Jersey Shore, it doesn't surprise me the number of women they bring home who will later decide while in bed, they shouldn't be there and sneak out.

From my experience, I've known girls dating assholes...and these women were easily persuaded to cheat on them with a nice, indifferent guy who was a leader. *Cough* Me! *Cough* LOL

@LionMonkey. Sounds good. Isn't it nice to be appreciated like this. I can't wait to get on WM. It seems, however, that I am getting back with

Giving women orgasms is a nice thing to do, I think. About giving them, although I am no expert, it is, as far as I understand, a case of not making her feel like we try to give them one. It is better to get her to relax and feel pleasure. Orgasm for a women is not like it is for men, it is much more mental. Still, it is important to take the lead, talk to her, and increase the pleasure. Best of luck to you!

Thanks man. It's amazing how much my "game" has changed!

I wrote to the girl next day and she replied, "I think you got the wrong number". I wasn't 100% sure that it was hers but next day I found out that it was her number.

She didn't take the call, so I wrote,

me: "Why are you so strange xyz? I have also a heart.. How would you have it, if you called me and I ignored you?"

her: "Okay. I am sorry that you have it like that but I was drunk, did something stupid, and I just want to forget about it..."

I really don't get her. She was able to make a cup of tea for me at her home so she wasn't that drunk and she really really liked me, until after sex where she seemed a bit cold. I didn't sleep over either. I left 10 minutes after because I just didn't feel like staying and I wasn't tired.

I don't understand it. I sense that it would definitely have been a longer "relationship" if I didn't went home with her that night after we exchanged numbers or if we didn't have sex. hmm...

Any thoughts on this are very welcomed!

PS. I'm going to see the 26y old, who is great at sexual innuendos, at her home this sunday night


Stage 1 - Day 12,


Noticed changes from the subliminal

- I take myself way less serious

- I am grateful most of the time and it makes me being in the moment, which allows me to do things most people would consider "strange"

- I feel a lot of resistance from some of my classmates, especially some of the girls who was very open and interested in me when I started back in september, to not liking me at all (the period where I was very sexual direct) and now I sense they do all kinds of things to avoid giving me the opportunity to reject them. Ignoring my presence and being indifferent with me is particularly strong. It makes me feel bad because I don't judge them and I am greeting them sincerely and open to what they would say but they have blocked me off, they have blocked the real me off and they only see their own egos judgmental view on me...

I don't know what to do with it but gratitude gives me strength to go through the day without too much hassle. Rather be hated than someone who's just "a nice guy"


- People look at me everywhere I go. I had a very beautiful, petite blonde keep looking at me when I was sitting in the bus and she was outside waiting for another bus. I swear if I had stood up and gone out of the bus and met her it would be something she wouldn't forget for a very long time...

- I keep noticing women placing themselves near me or going in front of me so I notice them, even though there's a closer path right next to her or begin talking very loud, to laughing when they walked past me

Sex is a big deal, especially for women. Being drunk may mean "being drunk enough to make a decision I wouldn't make when I was sober". It doesn't necessarily mean she can't make tea. Her making you tea may have been a little way for her to say she cares about you.

Moving to sex that fast is a good way to destroy a relationship's potential for anything other than sex. If she has sex with you that fast, the issue of respect comes up. Does she respect you? Do you respect her? Does SHE respect her? If you want sex only, there may not be an issue. But if she wants more than sex... there WILL be an issue if you move too fast.

In the moment, her sexuality may be in control. The minute you bust a nut and walk away, she's left with... what? Feeling taken advantage of? Used? All the times people told her only sluts and whores do what she just did (or allowed to be done to her, as the case may be)? That's why she went cold afterward.

YOU made the mistake of assuming only sex was involved. You also made the BIG mistake of leaving 10 minutes later. That screams "you were just a piece of fuck meat to me" in her mind. Why would she want to see you again?

If you wanted her to be interested for sex, you should have made sure she was either damaged and expected to be treated the way you treated her (she wasn't/didn't), or that you made the experience pleasurable and enjoyable for her and took her feelings and value into consideration. It appears you didn't do that either.

Hence... she concluded that she made a mistake, you only wanted a fuck toy, and she wanted more than to be used for fuck meat. End of story.