Thanks Shannon. That's an interesting perspective I've always been very quick to write off girls that were a bit over weight even if they fit very well in all other areas. In all honesty this girl would have been quite stunning if she had lost the weight and she was working on it with a clean diet and working out. Oh well I live and I learn, I won't be quite so quick to write them off in the future.
So last night I went along and did some Shen therapy which was interesting as its pretty much purely body work that focuses on drawing out repressed emotions. I was a little skeptical at first but had read positive reviews about and subliminals have helped to open me up to new methods that are outside of conventional thinking. I must say I was pleasantly surprised, first off the lady I saw was a trained psychologist which lead me to think she may not be so open minded but when I mentioned subliminals she said yes those can work and can work well if they are made properly. We then lead into my session which she mentioned I would have to have a few more than the average of 6 due to the amount of trauma I had experienced in my life, which was believable. I was a little bit apprehensive going up onto the table and within 15 minutes had some anxiety coming up and felt like it was hard to breathe. I accepted this and continued on from there I fell into a deep sleep and awoke at the end of the session felling like I had been hit by a freight train and feeling completely emotionally rung out. That was when I knew it had had an impact.
All in all a very interesting experience that I will continue with for another 7 or so sessions.
So its been a rough few days the last few days.
The business that I've been developing has hit a major hurdle. There is another company that has just released something almost identical to what we have been developing, they managed to beat us to market by around 6 months and have a team of 15 people working on it along with 5 million in VC (venture capital). They were quoted as the next big success story and the tech start up to watch this year. This really annoyed me at first to think this is where we should have been and were on the path to be in 6 months. At the same time I was able to to move past that and start thinking of new ideas to move forward with. We have a new idea that while not quite as good as the first could really address a need out there in the market. At the moment I'm struggling to find a way to monetize it but I know in time that will come because of the fact that there is a real need out there for it. It amazes me how me and my partner bounce ideas of each other and can build something from nothing based on a need that exists.
To add to all of that I had a mouth infection most of the weekend and been on tramadol and antibiotics as well as nursing the start of a flu and my car wouldn't start for work this morning. As well as this one of the girls I had as a FWB has become very needy which is pissing me off as well. I get busy at times with business as well as gym and catching up with mates and she tries to demand to much of my time. I've found myself being more and more aloof whenever she does this.
On the plus side the amount of stress I've felt off all of this has been minimal in comparison to what it would have been in the past. Its actually surprised me how well I am handling it all and finding alternatives to make things work instead of wallowing in everything that isn't going my way at the moment.
A few night ago I decided to give Natural Seduction a go and listened to it for 2 hours on headphones. The change in my state was huge and it resulted in some very different experiences. There has been this one girl that I live with that has been non talkative or friendly for over a month and after Natural Seduction she just seemed to open up and start talking. We also had a few people over at the time and everyone seemed very keen to include me in on everything and get to know me which is quite different to usual. I had similar experiences throughout most of the night.
OFGS has been knocking me around a little bit leaving me in a bit of a bad mood and getting angry a bit. So far the anxiety has been zero as has the stress, I usually get stressed and anxious while starting out on subs that touch on deep seeded issues but we will see how this progresses.
Hey Jim you've purchased Natural Seduction for Men correct? What's been your experience with it? I'm thinking about grabbing it and using it to help capitalize on opportunities created by the TUWs.
So I stopped OGFS for natural seduction while i have been dealing with a few things which i expect to take about another month. Ive been using it now for 4 weeks.
Last night was one of the craziest nights of my life. I was out catching up with a friend and while waiting for my ride to come and pick me up i had a car full of girls yell out "youre cute. Come over here" so i walked over and went up to the car door and starting hooking up with the girl that had yelled out. Then as quickly as it had happened they drove off.
From there i got picked up and went off to another bar where the craziness continued. Everytime i walked to the toilet i had different girls grabbing my arse. I had a mates sister hook up with me which i stopped due to the fact that its a good friend and i know the girl was on a break with her boyfriend. I ended up hooking up with a few different girls on the dance floor. The weird thing is hardly any words were exchanged. The only thing i can think of is that my energy and body language has changed alot. I felt like a rockstar in there with girls coming up and saying things like "dont stop your moves" followed by a wink and fuck me eyes. All in all a crazy and very fun night.
Ive also noticed ive become alot more open with everyone dicussing things i never would have in the past.
Lol, what clubs are you going to??
Thats great progress to hear about Jim! Wow that's so positive in regards to how you want to pick up and explore women. I plan on using natural seduction as well for 90 days so hopefully I can even surpass your results
. Be careful with kissing too many girls in one night though you might get sick.
Would you say you have more of an added confidence to your energy?
Thanks
Fonzy
Great stuff Jim, and thanks for your response! So would you say that your experiences are due to NSFM blending with your previous programming from WM2.0 or was this something that was "normal" for you while on WM2.0?
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Spiral well they aren't high class but they are definitely a long way of being dingy dives. The crowds generally young professionals.
@Fonzy I would say so. Some of the stuff that I did that night was a long way out of my comfort zone as well. I think as K-Train mentioned below this is actually working very well with WM2.0
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K-Train no worries main. I would say its definitely because of that. During WM2.0 I had experiences with girls that were average to below average and while there was quite often 1 or 2 a night it was nothing like this. Unfortunately later on in the night I got to drunk and that was the end of the results. In saying that a few of the girls from the other night were quite stunning although most not what I would take as girlfriend material, not due to their looks though. So I think whatever has happened with NSFM its blended very well with WM2.0. I haven't been out to somewhere I didn't know everyone well in about 3 weeks so its interesting to see the difference. I'll try head out a few more times in the next few weeks.
Nice Jim. I really liked the looks of NSFM as soon as I saw it come out. Taking things to a whole new level for you jim.
That it is spiral. So I have been away for a while and there have been some experiences to say the least but tonight showed me the bad side. I was out at a friends place and this girl came round with her brother. While the girl was attractive, I didn't want her but she kept on pushing and pushing. I literally got dragged into a room by her the whole time saying no. At that time her brother barged into the room and threatened to beat me up. This guy was twice my size and would have been able to beat me to a pulp with ease. Luckily I had a few other friends there who calmed him down. While I kept saying "No I don't want to step outside with you".
So I learnt a bit tonight. I need to be a bit more forceful when saying no to a girl and I also have some fear to work through as I did feel very afraid when confronted in that manner by her brother.
So had another realization around how much my life has changed today.This time last year I had just finished AM and had got so independent that I struggled to find one person to come out for my birthday. This year its almost the opposite I've got a good group of mates who are organizing me my birthday. Its times like this that I realize how much I have actually changed and I've got to say it feels great
Have decided to finish up with Natural Seduction. I found a lot of changes around women with it, namely that the quality of women ended up being higher. I also managed to get myself into a bit of trouble and had one or two women pursue me even more viciously than I have ever had in my life.
I am now moving onto depression relief aid. I plan on using this for an extended period to get past this nagging depression that has seemed to come and go throughout my life. I've noticed in the past that I react strongly very quickly to it which has lead me to believe that my depression is more biological than it is emotional. So i'm hoping with continued use it will get rid of it once and for all. I've made a few lifestyle changes as well including giving up porn (Which I used everyday since I was 13).
LOL! Damn Jim, it's rare that people stop using a program because it's too effective! Nice results man, you and MD81 definitely inspired me to run NSFM and it's a hoot so far, even with minimum usage time. So on a scale of one to ten, how do you rate NSFM? Any tips or advice you'd like to give?
I'm sure that Depression Relief Aid will be just what the doctor ordered or you could even run the Gratitude sub because I know Fonzy is getting great results with that as well. Either way, best of luck man, hopefully Depression Relief Aid kicks in before Christmas so you'll be able to enjoy the holidays worry free.
Either way, best of luck to you my friend.
Good for you Jim on quitting porn. That was a harder for me to quit than smoking was.
I do like to browse reddit's porn gifs and pics occasionally but stick to the model pics. The key is not spending an hour or multiple hours wasting time looking at the stuff. ..And doing it seldom throughout the week or month.
So I havn't completely quit. Shame on me lol