Subliminal Talk

So another instance of OF showed itself today and it was totally unexpected.

I do a bit of scuba diving and have always loved to get crayfish (lobster) the one problem I used to have was I was so afraid of going among the kelp (seaweed) and also grabbing the crayfish. I think this had to do with fear of the unknown. So today I was down and it was really easy to get among the kelp and to grab crayfish, two years ago I physically couldn't bring myself to do it now its easy and there is absolutely zero fear there

Awesome!

That is amazing to have such a visceral fear completely erased by WM!

It's not just good for the ladies, it's good for the stewpot!

So I've found myself lacking motivation and isolating myself a little lately. I think this may partially be due to the fact my diet while I was away was not good. Its amazed me how much of an impact my diet can have on my emotional state as well as my energy levels. When I do get out socializing though I've found that I've been a fair bit more talkative and saying whats on my mind a lot more. I've also found there's been a fair few more random people starting conversations with me. On top of that I've also noticed more attractive girls starting to smile at me and give prolonged eye contact as well.

On the plus side I did a bodyfat assessment today and am now down at 14% (I actually had to get the guy to do it again because I didn't believe I had dropped quite that much) which is a far cry from the 25% I was at 7 weeks ago. On that subject does anyone have any really good ab exercises? I want to start building my abs as I suspect I will be down below 10% within the next 6 weeks. I may have to get to around 8% before my abs show though as the fat around my abdominal area seems to be the last to go

Wow! Impressive Jim

Hey Jim, since you are asking about ab exercises i would recommend you scooby's channel on youtube.

Here is the playlist for everything considering abs http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL59B036EB66B488D3

he also covers everything else you could wish for on his channel, just browse through the videos. Been doing multiple sets of the 3min ab exercises, alot of cardio and nutrition. By now u can see them really good already, but i was rather skinny already to begin with so it was easyer.

Gl with your progress!

Nice progress Jim! How far are you from completion of WM and what's next on your list of subs to use?

Thanks K Train and everyone else.

I'm most of the way through stage 6 now. The women side of things seems to have slowed down a lot but still making good progress in most other areas of life.

I've got a few things on the list to do next. I was thinking of a run through of OGFS as I've been discovering that I have a lot of shame built up which still holds me back in certain situations. From there I have a choice which I have been shying away from which is do I do BAMM or continue on with AM. A lot of the reason I'm shying away from it is due to fear and even though my sole focus for the last two months has been developing a business that will turn me into a Multi Millionaire I still shy away from using BAMM through fear. So I will make the jump after OGFS into BAMM. I want to do it before BAMM as its something I want to focus on exclusively for a while. I feel with WM while it dealt with a lot of fear using OF by itself would have dealt with a lot more.

On the topic of shame there is something that has been niggling at me for a while now. I've always been described as being highly sensitive and a friend who knows me better than anyone reiterated this point to me last night. He was trying to get me to see it as a positive trait and something that should be cherished. I find it hard to understand how being highly sensitive falls into being a man and I have always feared this trait only hinders any attraction I may be able to build with women and holds me back in many areas of life. Maybe this is a quality that I was born with and need to manage the not so good traits of it and personify the good traits of it, or maybe it is a quality that I developed in childhood that I should be trying to overcome. That is all something I don't yet know but I do know what I did do in the past was repress my feelings which wasn't in the slightest bit healthy.

Edit: One more thing I've also found myself starting to be extremely honest firstly with myself and with certain other people as well. I had a girl a girl I've known for a while tell me the other night that she loves how i'm not judgmental of her and that i'm the one person who will give her an honest answer and not just tell her what she wants to hear. This is something i'm trying to bring more and more into all my relationships.

So a few more things have started to click the last couple of days. The bad patch I went through and worked through a few days ago has bought some inner clarity both around relating to women and relating to myself.

I was out with a friend last night and ended up with a slightly older women (I seem to be doing that a bit lately). She was interesting to talk to and we got along well, so just being in the moment and not thinking just lead the way to where the night ended up. Afterwards the friend who I was out with asked me how I do it, how I seem to end up with a girl every night i'm out with him. This got me thinking and bought a few realizations about.

When I end up with a women the following happen
* I'm relaxed and confident - I'm not load or out going I am just me
* I listen - I mean really listen I think 95% of guys these days can't listen to a women (I used to never understand women saying I wish guys would listen and thought that I did already listen, but I now do and realize that I never did)
* I'm ridiculously present - this falls back into listening, I'm just in the moment and completely present with her. It's almost like I fall in love with her for however long the encounter is but without any neediness what so ever
* I love women - I genuinely love talking to women
* I play and tease her - without even thinking light teasing and playfulness comes about like I would with my little sister
* I'm unattached to any outcome
* I'm genuine and honest - I say it like it is not what I think will get her into bed (The women that I was with last night kept saying 'you're so genuine' why aren't there more guys like you around).

That was the things I came up with when I really looked into what was going on. I still struggle with really attractive women even though they are attracted to me (My mate last night commented on this very attractive women from a few nights back that kept giving me the fuck me eyes and wouldn't stop talking to me or about me to others). I think this comes down to feeling i'm good enough and feeling I deserve really attractive women. I know that the way I am now will be attractive to really good looking women but for some reason still struggle with feeling like I'm good enough. I'm not complaining though the progress all round has been huge

So I finished up WM a week ago now but was going through a few unrelated things in life that had left me in a less than optimal mood to post my review of WM. I've passed most of that now and have also realized that a bit of what I call resistance is actually not related to the sub i'm listening to at all but more so my general mood in life and a low level depression that hangs around most of the time.

So what can I say about WM well at times it was a blast at other times a little rough but I feel like I made some major progress from it.

* I lost 14kg (14% body fat bringing me down to 12%) on it and got into the best shape i've been in since I was 16
* I moved out of home twice and feel like I mostly got rid of the fear of moving out (before this I had moved out but only with girlfriends and never on my own)
* I stopped worrying so much about socializing in the last couple of stages and just enjoyed it when it happened
* I became a lot more honest, both with myself and others
* Lots of other little fears got removed (i.e. I used to be afraid of getting in among seaweed to hunt for crayfish which I no longer am)
* I became a lot happier within myself (still more work to be done here though)
* I started up a business with a friend and its still going. In the past I would have given up when the going got tough or I found something difficult. Its still slow going but I'm making progress all the time and pushing through the hard parts
* I hooked up with more women in the last 6 months than I have in the rest of my life
* Socializing did increase a bit
* I feel like i've grown up a bit since starting WM
* Less concern whether girls are attracted to me or not - I had to read back to my earlier posts to find this one out as what I am now just feels like what I've always been
* eating healthy pretty much all the time (have dropped coffee from my life and most sugars)
* Stopped seeing my therapist because I was at a point in life where I felt I could manage on my own
* Decreased ego - Not boasting about girls I've hooked up with and not putting so much emphasis on it
* Certain friends now view me as a ladies man and ask me for advice which seems a little strange to me

Thats about all I can think of for now. There were a few things I didn't get out of WM that I had wanted but I think these would need another run through of WM after a run through of AM

* The girls I did end up with weren't girls I found really physically attractive
* I still struggle a bit socializing with new people and for some reason people I certain areas of my city including the area I live in

That's really about it. All in all very happy with the results of WM and now onwards and upwards with OFGS after I get back from holiday

Nice results. If I were you, I'd run sex magnet. That's just me tho :p

Quote:* I hooked up with more women in the last 6 months than I have in the rest of my life
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* Certain friends now view me as a ladies man and ask me for advice which seems a little strange to me

Ding! Bullseye. Congratulations! Now you need to work on getting enough self confidence and experience to catch the women you do find attractive. I suspect the reason you didn't this last run through has to do with the fact that because you weren't physically attracted, your indifference toward them was higher than towards women you found more physically attractive.

(05-11-2013, 04:57 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I suspect the reason you didn't this last run through has to do with the fact that because you weren't physically attracted, your indifference toward them was higher than towards women you found more physically attractive.

This is spot on Shannon and I've noticed it more and more over the past few weeks, unfortunately consciously being aware of it and trying to change it only makes it worse.

So I'm back from holiday and noticed a variety of changes while I was away. First off for the first time ever I was able to just relax and just be myself when with a completely new group of people. It took a few hours of being with them but it happened. I also realized I was very stressed before I left, I hadn't even noticed how stressed I'd became until I allowed myself to fully unwind. So I managed to make a completely new group of friends which I will be catching up with in the future. In the past when I had gone away on holiday I would get to know people while I was travelling but not to the point where they actually turned into friends.

I also met a girl over there that was open, honest, followed my lead, was great to talk to and was good in bed (One of the best if not the best I've ever had). The only problem was she was a bit overweight and I couldn't bring myself to get into a relationship with a girl that was a bit overweight. Apart from that fact oh and of course she lives a 3 hour plane ride away she would have made for a great girlfriend and had most of the qualities that I want in a girl. On the plus side I have noticed that an abundance mentality has come more into play. I've started thinking well if I met a girl like that there will be others that are not overweight with the same qualities. I also got voted the hottest single guy on the trip by all the girls that were there, which for me is another first.

Anyway I started OFGS yesterday and will continue using it for the next 3 months

Congrats!

Don't discount the girls who are a little overweight. They're often exceptional lovers and girlfriends, and sometimes if you treat them in a way that makes them feel emotionally secure, they can lose the weight.