Subliminal Talk

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

My theory is that subconscious already sensed some TID from UMOP2 which means a threat to the subc itself and therefore created this diversion or distraction /escape. Even before using UMOP2

(11-20-2018, 08:52 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

My theory is that subconscious already sensed some TID from UMOP2 which means a threat to the subc itself and therefore created this diversion or distraction /escape. Even before using UMOP2

But that would mean that the program was used in the upstream future to trigger that TID, thus automatically defeating the effort to prevent using it.

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

I had to rush away so couldnt reply but I did see this message and have been trying to mull over it at times today.

I can only assume that my subconscious is afraid of me reaching all of my goals. Goals of weight loss to goals of study etc.

I feel these are all goals given to me that society or family want me to achieve or expect me to achieve.

Even though consciously I know these are good goals, healthy goals and goals that I will benefit from I think maybe a part of me resents my family telling me what to do because as with most kids, growing up I got mixed signals of love from my family perhaps. Im of course guessing about all of this.

I say all this because a few years ago, I did something which was pretty darn remarkable but it was easy, a goal that I did because I believed I was super able to and that made procrastination on that goal less likely.

However I honestly dont know why my subsconsious is stopping me so is there a way from your FRM to either ask it or to Shut it the fuck up and make it execute my conscious healthy desires?

(11-20-2018, 08:52 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

My theory is that subconscious already sensed some TID from UMOP2 which means a threat to the subc itself and therefore created this diversion or distraction /escape. Even before using UMOP2

Ok this could be true yeah thats likely

(11-20-2018, 01:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:52 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

My theory is that subconscious already sensed some TID from UMOP2 which means a threat to the subc itself and therefore created this diversion or distraction /escape. Even before using UMOP2

But that would mean that the program was used in the upstream future to trigger that TID, thus automatically defeating the effort to prevent using it.

so the program can actually instigate TID? wow I thought that was only with DMSI.

Im not sure what you mean exactly but if its not TID then im thinking its something else in which case my conscious mind.

Could it be that consciously I know what I want to do, the things I want to achieve/not procrastinate on and thus this pre-warns my subconscious which fears the action?

Could it be that running the sub, UMOP was already being defeated but then I increased the loop, it was aware of this so again overcame it but then when UMOP2 was being made and released I was reading all about FRM and thus this sent fear or a warning to the subC and in turn it worked hard to prevent me from even starting UMOP2?

I mean seriously the subconscious is making me feel a little schizrophenic, as if there are 2 of me inside of me

(11-20-2018, 03:08 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

I had to rush away so couldnt reply but I did see this message and have been trying to mull over it at times today.

I can only assume that my subconscious is afraid of me reaching all of my goals. Goals of weight loss to goals of study etc.

I feel these are all goals given to me that society or family want me to achieve or expect me to achieve.

Even though consciously I know these are good goals, healthy goals and goals that I will benefit from I think maybe a part of me resents my family telling me what to do because as with most kids, growing up I got mixed signals of love from my family perhaps. Im of course guessing about all of this.

I say all this because a few years ago, I did something which was pretty darn remarkable but it was easy, a goal that I did because I believed I was super able to and that made procrastination on that goal less likely.

However I honestly dont know why my subsconsious is stopping me so is there a way from your FRM to either ask it or to Shut it the **** up and make it execute my conscious healthy desires?

The FRM will remove any and all fears that stand in the way of you achieving the goals of the program. In your case, you can bet that you fear losing control of yourself and/or the situation. So when it removes that fear, everything will be free to flow, and you'll be able to achieve whatever goals you have at that time as a result of running the program.

Update of today continued...

Tues 20th November
Today is Day 58 of UMOP in total & Day 1 of the New UMOP2 = 58:1
Day 1

**Masked trickling Stream now**
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I have finally checked the MD5sum and the file I played lastnight was indeed version 2 of UMOP masked trickling stream.

I can only surmise from this that for the past 11 days what I thought was UMOP2 was probably not. I deleted all those files out of sheer fear last night, of playing the wrong thing or getting confused again, but im fairly sure that its been UMOP1 Hybrid.

That therefore means that today was officially day 1 of UMOP2.

This means that I was on UMOP for 57 days and today was the (58th day of UMOP) and day 1 of UMOP2.

I can then offer no real understanding of the various dreams ive had in the past 11 days which I thought were attributed to UMOP2, but hope that going forward FRM can really be tested.

I apologise to @Shannon for this erroneous error resulting in data that was wrong for UMOP2 so im sorry about that bro!

That being said im now on the correct road and hope to keep it going forward.

I therefore will be on this sub for the next 90days or less as per @Shannon 's instructions for me to change.

I will remain on Masked, as its supposed to be the most effective anyway for those like me.

I will now change my signature to reflect this new change.

Today in all honesty I did feel a little maybe motivated or perhaps very lightly driven to get moving.

After waking up, the only thing on my mind was that I need to sort this MD5 mess out and then also sort out my exercise regime as per my post from yesterday as well as other things I really should get moving on. Study still scares the shit out of me so is always the last thing on my mind lol.

I also spoke to my uni friend. He's over in europe while im here chilling in the UK. We talked at the start about my exercise and how he sees me as simply having reasons not to start but that I need to and so he said I can join him at his gym where nobody we know goes and thus it will be helpeful.

I havent been able to do much else due to helping out in the kitchen today with a roast that was being made as an experiment pre-xmas.

I however then came back and im now replying to and organising my posts here.

I had no dream last night though.

I will now change my signature to reflect the new situation as it stands.

(11-20-2018, 03:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 03:08 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

I had to rush away so couldnt reply but I did see this message and have been trying to mull over it at times today.

I can only assume that my subconscious is afraid of me reaching all of my goals. Goals of weight loss to goals of study etc.

I feel these are all goals given to me that society or family want me to achieve or expect me to achieve.

Even though consciously I know these are good goals, healthy goals and goals that I will benefit from I think maybe a part of me resents my family telling me what to do because as with most kids, growing up I got mixed signals of love from my family perhaps. Im of course guessing about all of this.

I say all this because a few years ago, I did something which was pretty darn remarkable but it was easy, a goal that I did because I believed I was super able to and that made procrastination on that goal less likely.

However I honestly dont know why my subsconsious is stopping me so is there a way from your FRM to either ask it or to Shut it the **** up and make it execute my conscious healthy desires?

The FRM will remove any and all fears that stand in the way of you achieving the goals of the program. In your case, you can bet that you fear losing control of yourself and/or the situation. So when it removes that fear, everything will be free to flow, and you'll be able to achieve whatever goals you have at that time as a result of running the program.

@Shannon I replied above to you and to @Zane if you could check those to see if they are valid to help you with data.

Fear of losing control, yeah but of what, of taking action?

Could there be other fears that are also stopping me you think from executing?

(11-20-2018, 03:36 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 03:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 03:08 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

I had to rush away so couldnt reply but I did see this message and have been trying to mull over it at times today.

I can only assume that my subconscious is afraid of me reaching all of my goals. Goals of weight loss to goals of study etc.

I feel these are all goals given to me that society or family want me to achieve or expect me to achieve.

Even though consciously I know these are good goals, healthy goals and goals that I will benefit from I think maybe a part of me resents my family telling me what to do because as with most kids, growing up I got mixed signals of love from my family perhaps. Im of course guessing about all of this.

I say all this because a few years ago, I did something which was pretty darn remarkable but it was easy, a goal that I did because I believed I was super able to and that made procrastination on that goal less likely.

However I honestly dont know why my subsconsious is stopping me so is there a way from your FRM to either ask it or to Shut it the **** up and make it execute my conscious healthy desires?

The FRM will remove any and all fears that stand in the way of you achieving the goals of the program. In your case, you can bet that you fear losing control of yourself and/or the situation. So when it removes that fear, everything will be free to flow, and you'll be able to achieve whatever goals you have at that time as a result of running the program.

@Shannon I replied above to you and to @Zane if you could check those to see if they are valid to help you with data.

Fear of losing control, yeah but of what, of taking action?

Could there be other fears that are also stopping me you think from executing?

For people who fear losing control, there is a common thread in that earlier in life, sometimes VERY early in life, they experienced one or more situations that terrified them during which they had (or believed they had) no control. To prevent this threat from happening again, they subconsciously refuse to allow themselves to be outside of a state of control again - which may manifest itself as laziness, manipulative behaviors, self deception or delusion, stonewalling, stubbornness, contrariness, procrastination and other things as well.

(11-20-2018, 04:07 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 03:36 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 03:20 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 03:08 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

I had to rush away so couldnt reply but I did see this message and have been trying to mull over it at times today.

I can only assume that my subconscious is afraid of me reaching all of my goals. Goals of weight loss to goals of study etc.

I feel these are all goals given to me that society or family want me to achieve or expect me to achieve.

Even though consciously I know these are good goals, healthy goals and goals that I will benefit from I think maybe a part of me resents my family telling me what to do because as with most kids, growing up I got mixed signals of love from my family perhaps. Im of course guessing about all of this.

I say all this because a few years ago, I did something which was pretty darn remarkable but it was easy, a goal that I did because I believed I was super able to and that made procrastination on that goal less likely.

However I honestly dont know why my subsconsious is stopping me so is there a way from your FRM to either ask it or to Shut it the **** up and make it execute my conscious healthy desires?

The FRM will remove any and all fears that stand in the way of you achieving the goals of the program. In your case, you can bet that you fear losing control of yourself and/or the situation. So when it removes that fear, everything will be free to flow, and you'll be able to achieve whatever goals you have at that time as a result of running the program.

@Shannon I replied above to you and to @Zane if you could check those to see if they are valid to help you with data.

Fear of losing control, yeah but of what, of taking action?

Could there be other fears that are also stopping me you think from executing?

For people who fear losing control, there is a common thread in that earlier in life, sometimes VERY early in life, they experienced one or more situations that terrified them during which they had (or believed they had) no control. To prevent this threat from happening again, they subconsciously refuse to allow themselves to be outside of a state of control again - which may manifest itself as laziness, manipulative behaviors, self deception or delusion, stonewalling, stubbornness, contrariness, procrastination and other things as well.

As a child I had many many fears indeed but perhaps something was so bad it affected me. I don't know what unfortunately but upto age 11 I was top of my class. After age 11 I went downhill. Age 15 I think I began giving up and procrastinating.

Well let's see what happens in response to a few months of UMOP2.

Wed 21 November
Today is Day 59 of UMOP in total & Day 2 of the New UMOP2 = 59:2

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Today had to wake up and go to a running shop to get some footwear which I did.

I got home, made breakfast for me and dad, as he stayed home today and said he was going to cook.

I felt as if I was doing things, as in taking some action, simply by coming home and not being tired when making the breakfast of fried eggs for dad and me.

I ate, then got up to clear and tidy up even though I may normally just sit and chill after eating.

Anyway then it seems I knew I had things to do but I was wasting time on Tinder. I had a 50% 1 month discount offer so went for it as I've never paid for tinder ever and never used its features. Im a single man so dont judge lol

Anyway i've been getting matches and thus chatting to girls from there so thats taken and taking my focus. Its actually pissing me off because im not focusing on what I wanted to do but im also enjoying it.

I have 2 girls, 1 wants to date another wants to be my slave :/ anyway these girls I've been chatting to for 2 days and though not relevant to this sub still mentioning incase its data.

I then got to my laptop and though i have tried to get on with things and I am getting 1 thing done after another, from emails to other bits and bobs, im def wasting alot of time on tinder and on snapchat with the 2 girls mentioned above, as well as others. Its taken me hours to do what should only take 15-30mins max.

I had no dreams lastnight at all and no other changes or feelings to note.

Summary:
Doing some things. Could be due to the fact that I am flying back to Europe in 2 days, so as usual im getting into some action now.

I am doing thing but slowly and without focus, or rather short diffused focus.

I had no dreams.

I smell a change happening and it's getting me excited! Let's see how you are a week or a month from now

(11-20-2018, 03:16 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 01:52 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:52 AM)Zane Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-20-2018, 08:38 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]When the subconscious wants something badly enough, it can do amazing things to cause it.

Now ask yourself, why would it go to such lengths to prevent using this?

My theory is that subconscious already sensed some TID from UMOP2 which means a threat to the subc itself and therefore created this diversion or distraction /escape. Even before using UMOP2

But that would mean that the program was used in the upstream future to trigger that TID, thus automatically defeating the effort to prevent using it.

so the program can actually instigate TID? wow I thought that was only with DMSI.

Didn't see this post previously.

P6 triggers TID, and P6 is a part of the skeleton script. Everything has P6 in it, which is why we wait for 35 days between programs.

Quote:Im not sure what you mean exactly but if its not TID then im thinking its something else in which case my conscious mind.

Could it be that consciously I know what I want to do, the things I want to achieve/not procrastinate on and thus this pre-warns my subconscious which fears the action?

Your subconscious knows what is going to happen before your conscious does... and not only that, it knows about many possible "futures" as well. The conscious mind is like a drop of water and the subconscious is like an ocean in comparison, for what it can do, what it can do at once, what it can remember, and what it can sense and perceive. So "pre-warning" the subconscious because the conscious knows something is like putting your cart in front of your horse.

Quote:Could it be that running the sub, UMOP was already being defeated but then I increased the loop, it was aware of this so again overcame it but then when UMOP2 was being made and released I was reading all about FRM and thus this sent fear or a warning to the subC and in turn it worked hard to prevent me from even starting UMOP2?

In addition to the above, consider that every sub has P6 and P6 generates temporal impact displacement (TID). This means that when you start using a sub, it reaches back in time (as your conscious mind so limitedly perceives things) and influences you before you even started playing the program.

The subconscious is the one that can sense this long before it starts becoming consciously noticeable, and in fact it can see it in more than one way.

Once you have TID, you are on the "downstream" of a probability line that leads to using the program you are getting TID from. It is still possible to change which probability line you are on by choosing not to use the program that triggered the TID before you start using it. When you do this, if that choice holds, you will immediately stop experiencing TID. If you continue experiencing TID from that program regardless, then you are still experiencing downstream from the choice to use it, which happens in what your conscious mind perceives as the "future". You are still on the path to using it.

Because you can still make a different choice that will turn off TID before initiating the action that causes TID, I believe your subconscious attempted to trick your conscious self into thinking you were using UMOP2, but actually using the version it knew it could defeat.

Quote:I mean seriously the subconscious is making me feel a little schizrophenic, as if there are 2 of me inside of me

Depending on which theory of the psyche you subscribe to, there can be said to be many more than two of "you". Some theories postulate that every moment in time records a unique "you" which is recorded in your awareness forever. Some say that there is only the conscious awareness, and some say it's only conscious and subconscious. Others claim there are different parts and/or layers of the subconscious, plus the conscious.

Figuring out what is going on is extremely difficult because we are working with something we can't see, hear, smell, taste or touch - maybe we can hear it in some cases, maybe - which thinks and understands things in a way that is completely alien to the conscious mind, and which has abilities, skills, perceptual abilities and knowledge that the conscious mind does not and cannot.

That's why it has taken me going on 27 years now to figure all this stuff out and how to do it.