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Day 30 (contd.)
So... I was listening to my two loops today and around ten minutes before the end of second loop I get a message from one of the three girls who changed their minds about meeting me this weekend.

She asked me what my plans were for rest of the afternoon and that she may be able to meet me. I told her I haven't got anything planned and was willing to meet etc.

About 2.30 - 3 hours later, she says she won't be able to meet today. Maybe another day.

It seems like listening to the sub initiates something somewhere, but then the effect falls off very quickly. Unless something else is going on.

Also, after I finished my two loops today... I started to feel really sad. I felt a longing for the girl who cancelled on me two weeks ago and later told me she's decided to enter a relationship with someone.

I don't know if the sniper is still spending energy trying to snipe her or if I've got oneitis Sad
Day 31
Have been sleeping really well and been waking up well rested for last couple of days. It could either be the weekend, or I'm coming down with something (flu season) or the sub is using energy (I haven't felt much energy to do stuff during the weekend - except for going to gym).

I forgot to mention in last few posts that on Friday, that feeling of being attacked was back. Don't know much about it from the sub's perspective, but I feel like there shouldn't have been a reason for them to behave this way as I haven't even tried to engage them into anything. Let's see how things pan out this week.
Day 31 (contd.)
Had a long and busy day at work and after work. A friend told me that I looked low. I was a bit surprised to hear that because I didn't think so. According to her I was in a much better mood when I saw her three weeks ago.

This strangely coincides with how my experience changed on v3.1a. In the first few days I was feeling very energetic and I was happy too. Then things changed and now that she mentioned it, I agree... I am feeling a bit low and sad.

A lot of things seem like an effort. Even making conversations with girls on dating apps. One more day of "A".
Day 32
So I listened to 32nd set of loops for DMSI v3.1a this morning. Current state: feeling sad and low. Lack of enthusiasm and motivation to do anything. I also sense a feeling of being alone.

I was reading some dmsi journals on Sunday and realised that some people have had great success with dmsi. I have had insignificant results in comparison.

It is possible that I may require healing, I may be resisting, or simply put dmsi is not working for me or maybe something else is the matter. On dmsi it looks like all girls who show interest in me back off after the initial interest. This is so bizarre that it makes me feel like my results before any sub were much better than this.

On the other hand, I could attribute it to dmsi as well: a change in mindset means I'm not chasing after girls who do not make enough efforts to move things forward and it could very well be the anti sniper. Or maybe dmsi may have made subtle changes and my thoughts about girls may have changed or are changing.

All in all, as they say, proof is in the pudding. I think I'll give 'B' side a go for maybe a week or two. If it works, great... otherwise I'll go back to sorting my life out instead of chasing skirts.

I have seen tiny glimpses of the impact of subs. So I do feel that subs do work. If not anything else they at least make a particular area your focus. The side effect of that could be that the other areas in your life which may require attention, take a back seat.

I'm happy to hear from Shannon or anyone with any insights on my run. Please feel free to ask any questions for clarification.
(04-04-2017, 01:01 AM)hunk Wrote: [ -> ]Day 32
So I listened to 32nd set of loops for DMSI v3.1a this morning. Current state: feeling sad and low. Lack of enthusiasm and motivation to do anything. I also sense a feeling of being alone.

I was reading some dmsi journals on Sunday and realised that some people have had great success with dmsi. I have had insignificant results in comparison.

It is possible that I may require healing, I may be resisting, or simply put dmsi is not working for me or maybe something else is the matter. On dmsi it looks like all girls who show interest in me back off after the initial interest. This is so bizarre that it makes me feel like my results before any sub were much better than this.

On the other hand, I could attribute it to dmsi as well: a change in mindset means I'm not chasing after girls who do not make enough efforts to move things forward and it could very well be the anti sniper. Or maybe dmsi may have made subtle changes and my thoughts about girls may have changed or are changing.

All in all, as they say, proof is in the pudding. I think I'll give 'B' side a go for maybe a week or two. If it works, great... otherwise I'll go back to sorting my life out instead of chasing skirts.

I have seen tiny glimpses of the impact of subs. So I do feel that subs do work. If not anything else they at least make a particular area your focus. The side effect of that could be that the other areas in your life which may require attention, take a back seat.

I'm happy to hear from Shannon or anyone with any insights on my run. Please feel free to ask any questions for clarification.

The feelings of doubting the sub are all too familiar to me, and I've seen it as a common theme around the boards and others using dimsee.

It's particularly evident in my mind as of the last two days. I think it's just internal noise. I acknowledge these thoughts, then laugh because there's no logical reason for ME to doubt that there's something being done.

We ARE going against the tides in flipping the paradigm to women seducing men. To go from our existing lifeline to the desired one, we need a lot of reality shifting. And the process of shifting lifelines has been a bit turbulent in my experience.

So, acknowledge the doubt but rest assured that despite 3.1 being the beast it is, we still have more versions for us awaiting. Which will get us to the design goal Smile

It's not a matter of if... just when.
(04-04-2017, 01:01 AM)hunk Wrote: [ -> ]Day 32
So I listened to 32nd set of loops for DMSI v3.1a this morning. Current state: feeling sad and low. Lack of enthusiasm and motivation to do anything. I also sense a feeling of being alone.

I was reading some dmsi journals on Sunday and realised that some people have had great success with dmsi. I have had insignificant results in comparison.

It is possible that I may require healing, I may be resisting, or simply put dmsi is not working for me or maybe something else is the matter. On dmsi it looks like all girls who show interest in me back off after the initial interest. This is so bizarre that it makes me feel like my results before any sub were much better than this.

On the other hand, I could attribute it to dmsi as well: a change in mindset means I'm not chasing after girls who do not make enough efforts to move things forward and it could very well be the anti sniper. Or maybe dmsi may have made subtle changes and my thoughts about girls may have changed or are changing.

All in all, as they say, proof is in the pudding. I think I'll give 'B' side a go for maybe a week or two. If it works, great... otherwise I'll go back to sorting my life out instead of chasing skirts.

I have seen tiny glimpses of the impact of subs. So I do feel that subs do work. If not anything else they at least make a particular area your focus. The side effect of that could be that the other areas in your life which may require attention, take a back seat.

I'm happy to hear from Shannon or anyone with any insights on my run. Please feel free to ask any questions for clarification.

What you describe is the results of internally fighting the programming. You're simultaneously sending some attraction and some repulsion signals, as parts of you fight and struggle with each other internally. That is what causes the results you get with women right now. Turbulent transition between the two realities you now straddle. Women become confused and uncomfortable with the subtle communications you are sending. Come hither... go away! Come seduce me... stay away! Conflict creates chaos and uncertainty, and women will respond accordingly. When you settle into one state... then they will respond with whatever you are communicating to them in and from that state.

Proof is in the pudding, but if you refuse to buy the pudding, or make the pudding, or serve the pudding... how can you have proof?
(04-04-2017, 01:01 AM)hunk Wrote: [ -> ]Day 32
So I listened to 32nd set of loops for DMSI v3.1a this morning. Current state: feeling sad and low. Lack of enthusiasm and motivation to do anything. I also sense a feeling of being alone.

I was reading some dmsi journals on Sunday and realised that some people have had great success with dmsi. I have had insignificant results in comparison.

It is possible that I may require healing, I may be resisting, or simply put dmsi is not working for me or maybe something else is the matter. On dmsi it looks like all girls who show interest in me back off after the initial interest. This is so bizarre that it makes me feel like my results before any sub were much better than this.

On the other hand, I could attribute it to dmsi as well: a change in mindset means I'm not chasing after girls who do not make enough efforts to move things forward and it could very well be the anti sniper. Or maybe dmsi may have made subtle changes and my thoughts about girls may have changed or are changing.

All in all, as they say, proof is in the pudding. I think I'll give 'B' side a go for maybe a week or two. If it works, great... otherwise I'll go back to sorting my life out instead of chasing skirts.

I have seen tiny glimpses of the impact of subs. So I do feel that subs do work. If not anything else they at least make a particular area your focus. The side effect of that could be that the other areas in your life which may require attention, take a back seat.

I'm happy to hear from Shannon or anyone with any insights on my run. Please feel free to ask any questions for clarification.

I'm getting quite similar results to yours, where I seem to get some results but nothing pays off in the end. I'm very curious what kind of results you'll be getting from version B, if it's gonna work I might switch as well Smile
(04-04-2017, 07:44 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]What you describe is the results of internally fighting the programming. You're simultaneously sending some attraction and some repulsion signals, as parts of you fight and struggle with each other internally. That is what causes the results you get with women right now. Turbulent transition between the two realities you now straddle. Women become confused and uncomfortable with the subtle communications you are sending. Come hither... go away! Come seduce me... stay away! Conflict creates chaos and uncertainty, and women will respond accordingly. When you settle into one state... then they will respond with whatever you are communicating to them in and from that state.

Proof is in the pudding, but if you refuse to buy the pudding, or make the pudding, or serve the pudding... how can you have proof?

Thanks very much for your opinion, Shannon. Appreciate it.

Now the question is, if there's anything I can do consciously to settle into that state. Or is it just a matter of time? In terms of listening to dmsi, I'm assuming this would mean continuing to listen to "A" rather than "B"?
Day 2 on B
So I started listening to B after 32 days of A. I probably do need more healing, but I wanted to try out B as well. So will listen to it for a week or two depending on how things go.

First day was accompanied by feelings of anxiety which changed into sadness and loneliness by the end of the day. Second day was much better and I felt more energetic after listening to my two loops and I felt like I was joking around a bit more.

Then another Tinder girl who I was supposed to meet on Saturday started showing signs of flaking. She wanted more of my pics stating after all I was just another stranger from Tinder. I'll send her a couple of pics and will leave the ball in her court on whether or not she wants to see me.
(04-06-2017, 05:46 AM)hunk Wrote: [ -> ]Day 2 on B
So I started listening to B after 32 days of A. I probably do need more healing, but I wanted to try out B as well. So will listen to it for a week or two depending on how things go.

First day was accompanied by feelings of anxiety which changed into sadness and loneliness by the end of the day. Second day was much better and I felt more energetic after listening to my two loops and I felt like I was joking around a bit more.

Then another Tinder girl who I was supposed to meet on Saturday started showing signs of flaking. She wanted more of my pics stating after all I was just another stranger from Tinder. I'll send her a couple of pics and will leave the ball in her court on whether or not she wants to see me.

She is on Tinder. That whole point of it is meeting strangers. Unless she's some kind of shy person just starting trying Tinder out I call BS on that.
yeah that kind of behavior sounds to me like she's trying to find a reason to disqualify you. It's one of the facets of the female mind that online dating exploits. She's subconsciously just looking for you to show that you're a high value male who doesn't have to prove himself, but it manifests as her trying to find reasons to disqualify you.

pre-(un)selection, so it seems. And it's a pretty damn unfair exploit that leaves a high value male like yourself at the mercy of the woman's inflated sense of importance on an online dating app.

It's why online dating makes me sick now. lol.
Had a girl like that who wanted to vidcam with me, and she was just a robot. Be careful Tongue
(04-06-2017, 05:31 PM)kalmah0804 Wrote: [ -> ]Had a girl like that who wanted to vidcam with me, and she was just a robot. Be careful Tongue

I have her phone number, so at least she doesn't seem to be like the typical bot.
Day 5 on B
Running option 'B' is proving to be a bit of a roller coaster. I have been experiencing changes in my mood and energy all through the day. They range from excited, wanting to dance to music playing to downright sad and feeling lonely.

At work, my desire to even complete my work has gone. At home, there is no motivation to even do the dishes or laundry or clean up.

Also, my focus is a bit off. I think the sub is moving shaping me to only think about girls. Other things are taking a back seat. For example, I even forgot to pay my health insurance and certain other things which are a given.
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