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(12-04-2016, 11:53 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe she just senses you becoming more desirable to women and feels insecure?


You could be right. But I suspect that she's trying to bait me. Maybe to get an excuse for her to do the same. She's been saying in the last few months that she wants to go out with her friends. I have no problem with that but I'm wondering in the back of my mind what she's up to.
(12-04-2016, 02:24 PM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 11:53 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe she just senses you becoming more desirable to women and feels insecure?


You could be right. But I suspect that she's trying to bait me. Maybe to get an excuse for her to do the same. She's been saying in the last few months that she wants to go out with her friends. I have no problem with that but I'm wondering in the back of my mind what she's up to.

After you explained your situation at home awhile back, and then reading that your wife asked if you thought about sleeping with other people, my immediate thought was she's been having thoughts of sleeping with other people and wanted to see if you were as well. That's a hard question to answer honestly if the answer is, "Yes."

I personally don't believe in being "honest," as a must-follow rule. For instance, when my brother and I applied for the same job in high school, I got the job and he didn't. The question that lost him the opportunity was, "Are you willing to work holidays?" I said, "Yes," and he said, "No, I enjoy spending the holidays with my family." If you want the job, you tell them what they want to hear.

Another example is when your wife asks, "Does this article of clothing make me look fat?" I don't think a smart man would ever say "Yes," unless they're not protecting their spouse's feelings or they're looking for a fight.
(12-04-2016, 05:29 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 02:24 PM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 11:53 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe she just senses you becoming more desirable to women and feels insecure?


You could be right. But I suspect that she's trying to bait me. Maybe to get an excuse for her to do the same. She's been saying in the last few months that she wants to go out with her friends. I have no problem with that but I'm wondering in the back of my mind what she's up to.

After you explained your situation at home awhile back, and then reading that your wife asked if you thought about sleeping with other people, my immediate thought was she's been having thoughts of sleeping with other people and wanted to see if you were as well. That's a hard question to answer honestly if the answer is, "Yes."

I personally don't believe in being "honest," as a must-follow rule. For instance, when my brother and I applied for the same job in high school, I got the job and he didn't. The question that lost him the opportunity was, "Are you willing to work holidays?" I said, "Yes," and he said, "No, I enjoy spending the holidays with my family." If you want the job, you tell them what they want to hear.

Another example is when your wife asks, "Does this article of clothing make me look fat?" I don't think a smart man would ever say "Yes," unless they're not protecting their spouse's feelings or they're looking for a fight.

Hmm... no wonder people have trust issues.
(12-04-2016, 06:08 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 05:29 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 02:24 PM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 11:53 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe she just senses you becoming more desirable to women and feels insecure?


You could be right. But I suspect that she's trying to bait me. Maybe to get an excuse for her to do the same. She's been saying in the last few months that she wants to go out with her friends. I have no problem with that but I'm wondering in the back of my mind what she's up to.

After you explained your situation at home awhile back, and then reading that your wife asked if you thought about sleeping with other people, my immediate thought was she's been having thoughts of sleeping with other people and wanted to see if you were as well. That's a hard question to answer honestly if the answer is, "Yes."

I personally don't believe in being "honest," as a must-follow rule. For instance, when my brother and I applied for the same job in high school, I got the job and he didn't. The question that lost him the opportunity was, "Are you willing to work holidays?" I said, "Yes," and he said, "No, I enjoy spending the holidays with my family." If you want the job, you tell them what they want to hear.

Another example is when your wife asks, "Does this article of clothing make me look fat?" I don't think a smart man would ever say "Yes," unless they're not protecting their spouse's feelings or they're looking for a fight.

Hmm... no wonder people have trust issues.

That's a very generalized conclusion.
(12-04-2016, 06:11 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 06:08 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 05:29 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 02:24 PM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 11:53 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe she just senses you becoming more desirable to women and feels insecure?


You could be right. But I suspect that she's trying to bait me. Maybe to get an excuse for her to do the same. She's been saying in the last few months that she wants to go out with her friends. I have no problem with that but I'm wondering in the back of my mind what she's up to.

After you explained your situation at home awhile back, and then reading that your wife asked if you thought about sleeping with other people, my immediate thought was she's been having thoughts of sleeping with other people and wanted to see if you were as well. That's a hard question to answer honestly if the answer is, "Yes."

I personally don't believe in being "honest," as a must-follow rule. For instance, when my brother and I applied for the same job in high school, I got the job and he didn't. The question that lost him the opportunity was, "Are you willing to work holidays?" I said, "Yes," and he said, "No, I enjoy spending the holidays with my family." If you want the job, you tell them what they want to hear.

Another example is when your wife asks, "Does this article of clothing make me look fat?" I don't think a smart man would ever say "Yes," unless they're not protecting their spouse's feelings or they're looking for a fight.

Hmm... no wonder people have trust issues.

That's a very generalized conclusion.

Yeah, but it's probably true.
(12-04-2016, 05:29 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 02:24 PM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 11:53 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe she just senses you becoming more desirable to women and feels insecure?


You could be right. But I suspect that she's trying to bait me. Maybe to get an excuse for her to do the same. She's been saying in the last few months that she wants to go out with her friends. I have no problem with that but I'm wondering in the back of my mind what she's up to.

After you explained your situation at home awhile back, and then reading that your wife asked if you thought about sleeping with other people, my immediate thought was she's been having thoughts of sleeping with other people and wanted to see if you were as well. That's a hard question to answer honestly if the answer is, "Yes."

I personally don't believe in being "honest," as a must-follow rule. For instance, when my brother and I applied for the same job in high school, I got the job and he didn't. The question that lost him the opportunity was, "Are you willing to work holidays?" I said, "Yes," and he said, "No, I enjoy spending the holidays with my family." If you want the job, you tell them what they want to hear.

Another example is when your wife asks, "Does this article of clothing make me look fat?" I don't think a smart man would ever say "Yes," unless they're not protecting their spouse's feelings or they're looking for a fight.

I thought as much and that is why i was wondering if She's being affected by the sub. She also shared that some of the younger dudes at work have been checking her out. To be frank, and I've told her as much, I don't have any intention of sleeping with any one else. That being said, she's a responsible adult and trust that she will make a good decision if tempted. I can't be paranoid and won't lose sleep over this.
Guys. Shannon also said that this sub would probably cause relationships to end. Just something to consider as well...
(12-04-2016, 06:53 PM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 05:29 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 02:24 PM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-04-2016, 11:53 AM)swisston Wrote: [ -> ]Maybe she just senses you becoming more desirable to women and feels insecure?


You could be right. But I suspect that she's trying to bait me. Maybe to get an excuse for her to do the same. She's been saying in the last few months that she wants to go out with her friends. I have no problem with that but I'm wondering in the back of my mind what she's up to.

After you explained your situation at home awhile back, and then reading that your wife asked if you thought about sleeping with other people, my immediate thought was she's been having thoughts of sleeping with other people and wanted to see if you were as well. That's a hard question to answer honestly if the answer is, "Yes."

I personally don't believe in being "honest," as a must-follow rule. For instance, when my brother and I applied for the same job in high school, I got the job and he didn't. The question that lost him the opportunity was, "Are you willing to work holidays?" I said, "Yes," and he said, "No, I enjoy spending the holidays with my family." If you want the job, you tell them what they want to hear.

Another example is when your wife asks, "Does this article of clothing make me look fat?" I don't think a smart man would ever say "Yes," unless they're not protecting their spouse's feelings or they're looking for a fight.

I thought as much and that is why i was wondering if She's being affected by the sub. She also shared that some of the younger dudes at work have been checking her out. To be frank, and I've told her as much, I don't have any intention of sleeping with any one else. That being said, she's a responsible adult and trust that she will make a good decision if tempted. I can't be paranoid and won't lose sleep over this.

Snoop, a smart man tells a woman the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth - or he simply says "I choose not to comment." When you lie to a woman, she senses that and stops trusting you. And when she figures out what you're lying about (and they always do) you have two choices: end the relationship, or accept a leash.

The other day my GF bought herself new clothes and she was showing them off for me. She asked me what I thought. It was a blouse/skirt combo. Here is what I said, and I quote:

"The blouse color combination and pattern are something my grandmother would have chosen. The cut is nice. Overall, it's terrible because of the color/pattern combination. The skirt is nice though, looks better than I thought it would because of how it falls."

She was upset for all of 5 minutes, and then it was back to playful. Why? Because she, like all women who date me, learned that if you don;t want the truth, don't ask me the question. You can take your GSF and manipulation and shove it. It doesn't work on me, and it doesn't work with me.

My GF will do almost anything to please me because she knows I am honest and therefore trustworthy, and I'm the only man she's ever met like that. She may not like it that I have sex with other women (which, again, I do not hide or lie about), but she's not about to let that stop her from having me in her life because I am the only man she knows she can trust.

And RTB, it is likely that you are seeing the results of your changes being reflected back to you by your wife, who is female and therefore exquisitely sensitive to these things. Eventually, whether or not she senses it, smells it or has you tell her, she is going to conclude that you did it and react to that.

It seems unlikely that she could be affected directly, the way you have it set up.
I have to agree with the honesty means being truthworthy statement you're really in the moment when what is felt and communicated is in sync
Thank everyone for your input. There is an element of truth in what RT said. Can't say anything that comes to your mind when you are married. Otherwise, you will find yourself holding the shitty end of the stick very quickly. The ways the laws are set up here give married men very little maneuvering room unless you can stomach a nice piece of real estate under a bridge.
(12-05-2016, 09:10 AM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]Thank everyone for your input. There is an element of truth in what RT said. Can't say anything that comes to your mind when you are married. Otherwise, you will find yourself holding the shitty end of the stick very quickly. The ways the laws are set up here give married men very little maneuvering room unless you can stomach a nice piece of real estate under a bridge.

Exactly why I have NO interest in being married. You instantly become a slave if you're a man in the eyes of the law, you're always put under that guillotine of divorce and financial ruin. That's very scary to me. I've watched too many guys get their lives destroyed, no thanks. I think any man that gets married now is ignorant of his almost complete lack of rights in the culture about marriage, and only finds out when it's too late.
Ok. Haven't had the time to look at the board lately mainly due to server overload issues. It looks like something is hammering the server. Back to our regular programming. The celebrity vibe of the sub is really hacing an effect. Two days ago, everyone wanted to converse with me. Had people st work, who I never talked to, trying to initiate conversations with me. Considering that I'm not the social type, this is unusual.

Went to the gym yesterday and this skinny woman kept following me around. Each time we crossed path she would shyly smile at me. But no approach so far. Went to the grocery store afterwards and at the check out, I see the manager coming to talk to the cashier. it's a pattern that I've seen repeating with her in the last few weeks each time I pay for my purchases. She's a skinny tatooed red haired and probably in her early to mid 30s.

I dropped my son at school morning. His EA is a petite brunette in her 30s as well. She displayed all kinds of submissive BL when i came back to pick my son up. She was constantly smilling, giggling, shrugging her shoulders inward and looking down and away. Had a meeting with the special education teacher this afternoon. She's of serbian origin and a bit on heavy side. But she has some really nice facial features. She's really cute. She's sitting opposite me. Within five minutes, she was intently starring at me. She had her black hair in a pony tail and thoughout the meeting, she's pulling it up with both her hands, while coyly smilling at me.
(12-08-2016, 02:20 PM)Snoop Wrote: [ -> ]Ok. Haven't had the time to look at the board lately mainly due to server overload issues. It looks like something is hammering the server.

Corrected by Andrew... http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-p...#pid146787
You've been detailing your progress much better than I have despite the server issues. It is my opinion based on what I've gone through with 3.0.1 A and what you are reporting that this is by far the most powerful version we've tested!!
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