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(12-25-2013, 08:13 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I believe that a lot of the current ADD "epidemic" is due to the fact that people are training themselves to stay in Theta or Alpha all the time, with too much exposure to TV, movies, video games, etc., which all trigger those states of awareness.
Very interesting.....what's your opinion on sex and reading?
I believe that sex and reading exist. Beyond that, your question is too vague for me to answer. :-)
Quote:Interesting... thanks a lot for letting me know, i have never realized anything like this before...

i ran the exact same program about a year ago but i think a different level of the program though.
i wasnt on any subliminal at the time or any other brain involvement . I ran that program every single day. for months ...
Never had the headaches or dizziness afterwards or anything even close...

so if thats the case that you are talking about having negative effects... what is the benefits of running brainwave entraining and sit there and "meditate" for 30 minute.. ????

All things in moderation. Too much of a good thing is not a good thing. Even with meditating, if you spend too much time in an altered state, you will stay there when you should not be. That's why some people report feeling "zoned out" as a result of meditating: they do it to excess and they have a hard time balancing their brainwave state correctly after that. But there are benefits to be had by doing it in moderation, or balancing the effects so you don't train yourself to stay in an unwise state forever.

Quote:im guessing its good to be in those states for 30-60 minutes and get the benefits of it ??
then right afterwards run Beta wave for 10 minute to get back to the normal state ?

It depends on how much and how often you use the altered states. If you don't overdo it, you won't train yourself to remain in an altered state, and you would not need to re-entrain the Beta state afterward. There are benefits to be had whether you re-entrain Beta or not, as long as you balance your usage so that you don't train your brain to stay in alpha or theta too much.
Shannon : Ah okok , instruction says use it everyday .. but i dont think its that powerful enough i end up in an altered state. ima start entrainning back to beta for 10 minutes after i start doing 1 hour sessions .

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Wow.... so scary i had to just stop sleeping and open all my lights and come to type this out =_=....

I pretty much just had a scary ass nightmare i havnt had one like this for about 4 months that actually effects me after i woke up.

i did run the brainwave entrainning and follow up right after with SM3 on reply then went straight to bed but im pretty sure thats not what caused the nightmare???

Wow im feeling so scared right at the moment its crazy...

here it is...

As i recall. i think i did something wrong so i was punished to going to die. i cant recall what i did wrong. all i can remember was someone , bigger then average person, just appeared and told me...
next them i know i was like teleported to this place. through some kinda elevator instantly. The place has a bunch of people there i recalled them wearing blue greyish clothes. next thing i realized is that soon everyone here gets kills either by getting stabbed in heart or killed with pill. i think it happens every certain amount of time.

the scary thing about it is , its more of a spirit type of dream . not like a jail u see on TV and where the shot to kill people and its done...
i met one guy. said he wasnt gonna die until he shot some bullets. i saw he hide a gun...
next thing i know i think we were called to "gather up" . some how i end up obtaining his gun.

i was walking down a hallway on my way to whatever i was suppose to go.
i saw guard... i hide the gun in a recycling bin.. guard looked at me afterwards
i pretend to vomit and walk back and literally vomit in the recycling bin.

heres where even SM3 can kick in ur nightmare .. seriously wtf lol
next thing i know guard said wait i gotta ask u something , "u havnt ate last 5 days , how come..."
then next thing i see is 3 girls... they arent ordinary girls... its like they are witches or some kinda who knows what... fox girls that lures people to attract to their beauty and then devour them.

then i saw one of their bare butt showing. next thing i saw was the guard completely forgot about me and was onto two of the girls. next thing i know i was slapping and grabbing the third girls butt =_=. Felt like things got hot ofr a second but there was no kissing or touching anywhere else. then me and her were in a room alone. somehow we chatted. i think was to take me off guard. i asked her how she gonna escape her death ( its weird i dont recall asking anything but it was more of a i just know what i asked base on what the situation has happened). she told me she got a flight to X place already. thats it for chatting i think

i think i knew what she was so i distant myself but i was so tempted . so i think i asked her " would u _______ me if we _______" i think is eat and sex. but i dont recall saying those words might be other words. she either hinted no non verbally or said it.
i got close for one second she fuckin turns into some... what knows what ... a witch with a face u shit ur pants and my gosh her nails turns instantly into like 50 cm long and black and it like stabbed my thigh . good thing i was far enough so i only got stabbed once.

so right after this... instantly i was then gone from her.
then instantly i only saw fuckin grass..
you guys know when on TV when someone is getting chase in the wild they are running and u can only see the plants and grass they are running through?
i was talking to my mom and thats the only thing i can see
me saying "hmmm mom i should go to X place too, thats a good idea" . mom , mom ?
while saying these i just saw flashes of plants and grass
then something killed me ... wtf?
didnt even see what it was thank goodness...
i felt a energy at my balls u know where when u wanna activate ur kundalini energy that u squeeze ur muscle . its like exact or similar place to PC muscle.
i just felt i was pinned down at that place and felt fear all over entire body like i was dead...
instantly i woke up ...
i was laying on my bed with both hands wrap around my body... i was too sacred to even move...for the next 10 minutes. finally i got the courage or come back to sense to even move and quickly open the lights..

my gosh.... what the fuck =_= felt so ..weird
i was so tired my eyes kept on closing on me but i cant even fall alseep so i just came to the computer.... still feeling some sort of fear... holy shit...
didnt even feel close to this fear when i was almost hit by a car ...
listen to SM3 -> have a profound, scary dream about threatening women -> work out some of your deep-seated fears about women. awesome.
that is fucking awesome fluffy. These traumatic dreams are probably a good sign that you are facing your fears from deep down and it'll be cool to see what unfolds as a result
Quote:Shannon : Ah okok , instruction says use it everyday .. but i dont think its that powerful enough i end up in an altered state. ima start entrainning back to beta for 10 minutes after i start doing 1 hour sessions .

60 minutes a day, every day, for long enough, is most assuredly powerful enough to train you to stay in an altered state.

If you entrain, say, Theta for 60 minutes every day while your body would naturally be in Beta, and then entrain Beta for 10 minutes, have you prevented the training of your brain for staying in Theta?

If I train my left arm for 60 minutes and then de-train it for 10, will I have bigger muscles than when I started?

That's why I recommend that if you're going to use BWE daily, you entrain Beta for at least the same amount of time that you entrain anything else. Ultimately, it's your call. I'm just explaining why I recommend what I do.
Hey Fluffy,
I've had exactly the same thing and it does seem to be the way some people work through stuff with subliminals, usually deeper stuff. A couple of times i've woken up drenched with sweat and a huge amount of fear in my body. I learnt through meditation to just allow it to be there and sit with it and usually it clears. Try to just focus on that feeling while allowing it to be there instead of focusing on your thoughts.

Then I noticed after it cleared I felt more solid and better like something had been let go.

-Ben
(12-26-2013, 02:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I believe that sex and reading exist. Beyond that, your question is too vague for me to answer. :-)
HA-HA.

OK. You said
Quote:I believe that a lot of the current ADD "epidemic" is due to the fact that people are training themselves to stay in Theta or Alpha all the time, with too much exposure to TV, movies, video games, etc., which all trigger those states of awareness.
1)I was asking if too exposure to sex or reading will also trigger theta and alpha states of awareness and thus cause ADD.
2)And how to find out if some activity is triggering theta and alpha states of awareness?
I don't think that reading books creates alpha or theta waves unless it's off tv or pc. I find when I read a book my beta waves increase hence why reading improves focus.
(12-28-2013, 01:14 AM)Ace Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-26-2013, 02:26 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]I believe that sex and reading exist. Beyond that, your question is too vague for me to answer. :-)
HA-HA.

OK. You said
Quote:I believe that a lot of the current ADD "epidemic" is due to the fact that people are training themselves to stay in Theta or Alpha all the time, with too much exposure to TV, movies, video games, etc., which all trigger those states of awareness.
1)I was asking if too exposure to sex or reading will also trigger theta and alpha states of awareness and thus cause ADD.
2)And how to find out if some activity is triggering theta and alpha states of awareness?

1. I don't see anything to suggest there is any such correlation to ADD, or triggering alpha/theta states that are entrained by sex. Reading for long periods of time certainly can create alpha or theta states, but I think you'd have to spend a LOT of time reading the right sort of books to get that to be an issue.

2. Shy of an EEG, you would have to consider whether or not it produced the hallmarks of a brainwave state dominated by alpha or theta activity.
(12-28-2013, 02:57 AM)AlphaScorpio Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think that reading books creates alpha or theta waves unless it's off tv or pc. I find when I read a book my beta waves increase hence why reading improves focus.

Beta will increase when critical faculty is used; alpha or theta increases as the imagination is used more. So for instance, reading a book on advanced quantum physics will tend to trigger beta/gamma, while reading a fantasy novel (and being really into it to the point that you stop seeing the words and start experiencing it in your mind) will be triggering alpha or theta.

Reading it on a TV or PC screen doesn't make much difference. Movies and video games are not static, as text is.
interesting Shannon. I am currently reading the silmarillion by Tolkien (big Lord of the rings fan) and I absolutely love getting into that state where the pages come to life. Would listening to alpha/theta brainwaves whilst reading help produce that state more easily?
(12-28-2013, 06:04 PM)AlphaScorpio Wrote: [ -> ]interesting Shannon. I am currently reading the silmarillion by Tolkien (big Lord of the rings fan) and I absolutely love getting into that state where the pages come to life. Would listening to alpha/theta brainwaves whilst reading help produce that state more easily?

I don't know. Sounds like a good experiment.
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