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(06-25-2020, 06:46 PM)ncbeareatingman Wrote: [ -> ] (06-25-2020, 01:28 PM)Omni3 Wrote: [ -> ]Inception.
The difference between DOing and BEing...
I like to see it as, we are human BEings and not human DOings..
Sounds like you arrived at the centre 
Word!!!
I thought it was something like that, but I couldn't remember the exact word used.
Been pretty tired the first couple days of the break. Now it seems to be getting better.
I'm noticing that OF seems to be easier for me to deal with than it is for my GF. She is a more emotionally focused personality type than I am, and more polar emotionally. It was a bit challenging for her on days 2 and 3 of the break, and the first and second nights back on, she's been having some serious moodiness. Interestingly, it appears that her subconscious is trying to fight the process, but is not able to, and the result is that it is getting angry. She's become moody and snappish, and has realized that she is so, and will apologize after the fact.
That means this program is not only incredibly strong (as she has been subconsciously able to prevent LTU5 from making certain important changes that would result in not needing to play it all the time), but it is working. She is one of the most resistant testers I have. That impresses me.
On my end, it's been mildly challenging for the last 5 days for me as well. Not experiencing anxiety or fear, but finding that some part of me was trying hard to un-do the effects of the program during the days off, and trying to resist when I got back on. This takes the form of trying to procrasttinate, amusingly, but even that isn't working.
Yesterday I found the models were unstable, so I could not accomplish much. So I was playing Skyrim and re-checking every hour if they had stabilized. At one point, I suddenly decided that it was time to get rid of my couch. I then proceeded to do exactly that; now it's out by the curb and I have no couch.
The back story on that, to put the significance of that act into perspective, is that some part of my subconscious was associating the furniture and the clutter with my mother, and trying to "hold on to her" by doing so. She's been dead 10 years now, come June 26th. So it was not making any sense and not helping things.
Also, over the years the couch has become very ratty. It started off ugly, and went downhill from there. I found that no matter what I did I could not get it clean, and then one of my dogs had a "little explosion issue" that left me with the option of washing the whole thing down, or throwing it away. For a little while, I was paralyzed between wanting to just toss the damned thing, ugly and dirty and impossible to get really clean enough to make me happy, and keeping it because (insert excuses #1 through #349 here).
Yesterday, I up and got rid of it. No pushing from anyone... GF wisely allowed me to do that on my own time. Now there is no couch, and that section of the room is empty, and has been vacuumed four times. Lots of dust etc. under it.
My old ratty couch is not a tie to my mother's memory. I have that inside me, and it will never go away. "Things" don't tie me to her memory, and that is becoming more and more true every day. This is MAJOR progress, because ever since she died, some part of me was wanting to hoard crap to "hold on to her memory". (Partly because she was a hoarder, and so was my grandmother.) I have tried to push back and keep the hoarding to a minimum, but there has always been more clutter than I was happy with, and I couldn't seem to get past a certain amount of progress with removing it.
Now I am seeing that these "things" are not necessary. I'm going to throw away the old end table that I have left over from 20 years ago, which is long since the last part of the set it was part of (a living room coffee table and two end tables). In fact, hold on while I go do that.
(10 minutes later)
It's done. Ahhhh, freedom. This actually feels good!
I had my subconscious attempt something sneaky and amusing while I was doing that. That end table was glass-top. The glass was big enough that it would have made a nice cover for the areaof my desk that I use for work. "We could put it on the desk. It would make the desk much more pleasant to write on. And when you're doing perfumery, it would be easier to clean up!"
Then I realized it was trying to hold onto the glass, just like it had tried to hold on to the table. No. I put it out by the curb, along with the table and the lamp that had been sitting on it.
I am going to clear out the clutter in my house, a little at a time. And then I'll be free.
Given how difficult it is to work with people who have bad hoarding habits (mine are not bad), this really impresses me. Maybe OF 5.75G will prove to be an effective treatment for hoarding too!
That certainly makes sense. I would categorize that as fear of letting go.
I have a slight hoarding challenge.
Hearing about the power of the light side within this sub makes me excited for UMS 2. ?
I am noticing that I don't remember any dreams lately. I don't remember if this was happening before OF, but it's definitely not happening since. Interesting.
I am also noticing that I generally have more confidence lately, and I am more freely and more frequently expressing my "very ridiculous" sense of humor. It's fun! Not everyone gets it, but it's fun. This morning we went to have breakfast at a restaurant. The walk from the host stand to the table was 3 steps. "That was entirely too far of a walk, sir!" I said to the man. He didn't get it. GF made fun of me for being stupid. I had fun laughing at my own silliness, even if nobody else did.
I am also noticing something very unexpected, which pleases the hell out of me. Since LTU5 came out, my GF has been using it to keep herself emotionally comfortable. If she went three or more days without it, she would become depressed, hopeless, negative, irrational, angry, lash out, etc.
Now the reason for that was because while it was working for her, her inner child was very stubborn, and would not make the changes necessary to allow the effects it was having when she listened to it to become permanent. It couldn't override the cooperative parts except to prevent itself from changing. That inner child had a negative identity because all it knew was that it was always guilty of everything, so it must be that it deserved to suffer. (Her parents did a doozy on her, let me tell you. Emotional child abuse would be a couple step up from what they did.)
So her inner child was always trying to execute on that "I must be terrible for them to treat me that way, so I deserve to suffer, be miserable and fail all the time." LTU5 caused the rest of her to override that and she would be happy and productive and emotionally stable. All the therapy, counseling and pills they threw at her did nothing to help, ironically because her parents would punish her more for seeking help, because that threatened to expose them as abusers. Unfortunately, LTU5 could not override that core belief that she was deserving of suffering and punishment, because she interpreted their abuse when she was an infant and very young child as, "They wouldn't be treating me this way if I didn't deserve it, so I must be terrible and deserve to suffer and fail."
We could never go more than 2-3 days without running it, which made for using anything else very challenging, to say the least...
We have only used OF 5.75G since it came out, and I think that was 15 days ago now? And only once has she gotten moody and cranky... but even then she didn't get ridiculous like she used to. And that only happened once, and she recognized she was doing it and responded rationally. That never happened before.
That means OF 5.75G is not only more powerful than LTU5, but it's accomplishing what LTU5 could not... which apparently was based in a fear. I would bet that it was based in the fear of being unlovable, or unworthy of love.
THIS IS INCREDIBLE PROGRESS FOR HER!!!
I have made a lot of progress with her over the years we have been dating, but this is just next level. When we started dating, she would sometimes go through periods of depression so deep that she wouldn't get out of bed. Just lay there in the dark wanting to die, sometimes for days on end. Nothing I did helped.
Then my programs began helping because they became powerful enough. EHPRA v2 and 3.
Then I created LTU5 for her, and that basically acted like an anti-depressant pill for her; it worked, but we needed to keep using it all the time.
Now OF 5.75G is replacing it, and doing what it couldn't. That means that her deepest issue was fear, and that fear is being removed. I cannot tell you how thrilled I am with this, or how impressed I am by it.
Makes me so happy to hear how OF is helping your GF get better.
Wow Shannon that is deep. I'm also glad that your GF is doing better. Do you think with enough usage LTU5 would have eventually overwritten her inner child programming? I'm as excited as anyone that your subliminal technology continues to advance and get better. I look forward to trying out the new FRM once I finish my current LTU5 run.
(07-02-2020, 04:05 PM)Tao374 Wrote: [ -> ]Wow Shannon that is deep. I'm also glad that your GF is doing better. Do you think with enough usage LTU5 would have eventually overwritten her inner child programming?
Given her pattern of results and responses, I unfortunately have to say that I doubt it. Her inner child is extremely strong and very polar in it's "thinking", which amounts to extreme emotional states and responses that are often based on jumping to conclusions before it understands everything. The result is often very off conclusions that it tries hard to do the slippery slope thing with, driving them to the worst case scenario. It was successfully resisting being changed, but it was not successfully being able to dominate the rest of her, which was cooperative. So continued usage was required.
Quote:I'm as excited as anyone that your subliminal technology continues to advance and get better. I look forward to trying out the new FRM once I finish my current LTU5 run.
I am too. I can't wait to see what a long term run of OF 5.75G does for people. How much of things like anger issues, depression and other emotional and mental health issues has its roots in faulty beliefs that result in faulty thinking that result in fear, which result in irrational responses at the subconscious level that come to the conscious level as things like bi-polar disorder, depression, anger management issues and the like?
Unfortunately, finding the root of the issue is of no interest to most of the psychological or medical community, because solving the problem ends the profit flow. So they rely on the pill-or-knife dichotomy to make a profit, and who cares what happens to the patient? Hopefully at the very least, my work will show that the root reasons for some of these issues is psychogenic and needs to be dealt with as such, not through endless pills and profit seeking.
Quote:Unfortunately, finding the root of the issue is of no interest to most of the psychological or medical community, because solving the problem ends the profit flow. So they rely on the pill-or-knife dichotomy to make a profit, and who cares what happens to the patient? Hopefully at the very least, my work will show that the root reasons for some of these issues is psychogenic and needs to be dealt with as such, not through endless pills and profit seeking.
I'm actually reading a book at the moment, and part of it is delving into CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) and how it's being pushed so much as the 'ultimate thing' because it's also paired with drugs for depression, and is being pushed by the pharmaceutical companies.
I knew of this with other medical drugs but never considered it in this case. And it confirms what I discovered for myself, that CBT isn't very effective at all past a little bit temporarily. It did little to me, and having people tell me "You just have to force yourself to change your thoughts" and similar processes never helped much.
And then the book expands and says that alot of people feel worse because of that, because they feel like "Well CBT is sold to us as the best thing ever, as effective, and it doesn't work for me, so what's wrong with me".
And that alot more needs to be done than just 'changing your thoughts'. I'm glad I know this now because occasionally i've had people tell me how great CBT is, even though it's not working for them that well.
So now I have more information on it.
(07-03-2020, 04:45 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Unfortunately, finding the root of the issue is of no interest to most of the psychological or medical community, because solving the problem ends the profit flow. So they rely on the pill-or-knife dichotomy to make a profit, and who cares what happens to the patient? Hopefully at the very least, my work will show that the root reasons for some of these issues is psychogenic and needs to be dealt with as such, not through endless pills and profit seeking.
I'm actually reading a book at the moment, and part of it is delving into CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) and how it's being pushed so much as the 'ultimate thing' because it's also paired with drugs for depression, and is being pushed by the pharmaceutical companies.
I knew of this with other medical drugs but never considered it in this case. And it confirms what I discovered for myself, that CBT isn't very effective at all past a little bit temporarily. It did little to me, and having people tell me "You just have to force yourself to change your thoughts" and similar processes never helped much.
And then the book expands and says that alot of people feel worse because of that, because they feel like "Well CBT is sold to us as the best thing ever, as effective, and it doesn't work for me, so what's wrong with me".
And that alot more needs to be done than just 'changing your thoughts'. I'm glad I know this now because occasionally i've had people tell me how great CBT is, even though it's not working for them that well.
So now I have more information on it.
Same sentiments here towards CBT. It’s akin to playing charades.
What’s your take on EMDR?
(07-03-2020, 03:33 PM)XyzN Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon,
You may have answered somewhere else previously, but which track do you and your gf primarily listen to for OF? And through what means? I think you mentioned you listen just on your phone? I have a small 6 inch wide speaker that I can hook up to my phone if it would give me better results. Being a standalone speaker I thought it may be better.(though I still wouldn't be getting full stereo since it's not around my head...)
Do you think it'd be worth using the speaker still or just use my phone in between me and my gf overnight?
I always use my cell phone on my night stand on my side of the bed, playing through the cell phone's speaker using ultrasonic format. We use a volume of 12 or 13 most of the time, depending on what program we are using. Try that. I've been doing it that way for a long, long time now.
(07-03-2020, 06:03 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ] (07-03-2020, 03:33 PM)XyzN Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Shannon,
You may have answered somewhere else previously, but which track do you and your gf primarily listen to for OF? And through what means? I think you mentioned you listen just on your phone? I have a small 6 inch wide speaker that I can hook up to my phone if it would give me better results. Being a standalone speaker I thought it may be better.(though I still wouldn't be getting full stereo since it's not around my head...)
Do you think it'd be worth using the speaker still or just use my phone in between me and my gf overnight?
I always use my cell phone on my night stand on my side of the bed, playing through the cell phone's speaker using ultrasonic format. We use a volume of 12 or 13 most of the time, depending on what program we are using. Try that. I've been doing it that way for a long, long time now.
12-13 out of what total #? What kind of phone do you have?
I use the iPhone and I find that if I listen to ultrasonic via speakers higher than 5-7 out of 16 for a prolonged period of time it will lead to ringing in my ears and sometimes headaches- it also makes it difficult to fall asleep if it’s too loud
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