dmsi so far so good.... (Afzal/Dzemoos run)

[Sickologist]

And their mental masturbation about being in the moment like that's so fucking hard. And the endless newbies looking for ways to get women to approach them, basically making themselves boy toys and actually revelling in it. Mystery had some good concepts, after that every guy who managed to get laid 5 times was suddenly a master.

[chaosvrgn]

I think there is a big misunderstanding about the healing/clearing in DMSI. It is intended to clear all the stuff that prevent taking action and all the stuff that is causing some kind of self sabotage on the way to get pussy and not turning you into a zen monk. If I would tell you how close I was to get sex several times and how strange way of self sabotage I experienced you probably wouldn't even believe me. That's what the healing is for. You, Sick or Chaos don't need the healing to get pussy at all. You probably only need it to get healthier pussy.

Exactly. There'd be times when I had a choice of pussy, and I chose the more damaged chick and hamstered it away. Of course, only for her to end up being a royal bitch who put me through a lot of shit that's hurting my progress now.

You can take action and heal at the same time, just like I'm doing. You guys are trying to turn it into this attack on masculinity, this "I'm better than you because I don't want to heal" type of thing. Shaming, like society does. And that's kinda fucked up. For real.

Dzemoo -- You mentioned to Shannon that you've seen more pussy than more of the guys on the board. Okay, probably true. Now, what's the trade off? Do you feel fulfilled in life because you're banging chicks every night?

I had a lot of friends that were huge in the San Diego PUA scene. I went to this one guy's 300 party -- dude had banged 300 women. You know what he told me? That he was going to get to 600 and then he was going to kill himself. That was his life. Going to a crummy job and then going out to bang two or three women a night.

If that's the path you guys want to take, then by all means, do that. I won't judge. But, that's not the path I'm going to take, nor can I sit around and watch others be shamed because their goals don't align with yours.

[RisingSon]

Reality check this...

You guys pursuing 'game' are just lying to yourselves, playing GAMES. The entire PUA industry was created by some marketing scammers in the first place, it's just problem/reaction/solution to cultural marxism and feminism where women have been given too much power in the sexual market (and probably their own lives). Shannon is right that healing is most important. A wise chinese qi-gong master once said that very same thing and he surely knows more about life than some club boys running around spritzing pheromones on themselves. LOL! Your self-worth as a man is NOT dictated by women. However, by living to entertain them and running around paying money for all these gimmicks, going clubbing, etc, you are doing just that and it will never be satisfying in the long run. And neither will they by the cheap sex. I'd rather be alone than with most modern hoes. Especially ones that have been ran through by insecure player types. Passed up lots of pussy in my youth even when I was into the drug scene. Do I regret it? Hardly. I found personal integrity, instead.

This is like some sort of deep self-worth issue. Go for a walk in nature, idk. Run AM6 a couple times.
Yeah, women are crazy but why mimic their destructive behavior that is about to pretty much destroy civilization?

And women SHOULD be coming to me begging for sexual favors (Shannon!). In more natural societies where they aren't so self-absorbed, females are always the first to show interest and flirt. They select the males, not the other way around because the man is the stimulus/prize. It's backwards with the glamorization in the Western media where you are like some salivating Pavlov's dog, conditioned to want some fantasy lifestyle or think those insecure girls are all that special underneath their fakeness in the first place. Real recognize real but fakeness is everywhere.

[The rest of your post is fine, but not calling people 'immigrants'. Pay attention to the rules -Ben]

That's all I felt like saying and I won't stick around for responses, so don't bother. (AM6 Stage 3)

[JackOfHearts]

Sicko, Dzeemo you are not helping yourself by criticizing others method like that. Putting them down like that even if their method isn't effective. This remind me of pherotruth when I read them talking about us, it's so degrading when someone does this. There is no good reason for doing this, you should know better. By respecting others you will respect yourself at the same time because what you are criticizing them for maybe in the past you did the same thing or in the future you may do something worse.

What doesn't sound good in Dzeemo behavior is that he says something and 2 month later he will contradict himself completely, if not 2 weeks later.
This is the opposite of a man behavior who is constant in his behavior, that's why I said steadfastness, you are lacking this quality a lot, so much that you are making a fool out of yourself. If you are appearing this way to us, this will certainly appear to the women you are dating. If you behave this way with the women you are with I don't think they will think highly of you and for good reasons. If you care about that.

I don't want to bring you down by saying this, but women tend to behave more like this, constantly changing their idea on a daily basis. I'm sure you don't want to be like a woman. I'm sure you can do better. Also I don't want to bring women down by saying this. There nothing wrong with that, it's just a gender difference, if any women is reading this

[Dzemoo]

Reality check this...

You guys pursuing 'game' are just lying to yourselves, playing GAMES. The entire PUA industry was created by some marketing scammers in the first place, it's just problem/reaction/solution to cultural marxism and feminism where women have been given too much power in the sexual market (and probably their own lives). Shannon is right that healing is most important. A wise chinese qi-gong master once said that very same thing and he surely knows more about life than some club boys running around spritzing pheromones on themselves. LOL! Your self-worth as a man is NOT dictated by women. However, by living to entertain them and running around paying money for all these gimmicks, going clubbing, etc, you are doing just that and it will never be satisfying in the long run. And neither will they by the cheap sex. I'd rather be alone than with most modern hoes. Especially ones that have been ran through by insecure player types. Passed up lots of pussy in my youth even when I was into the drug scene. Do I regret it? Hardly. I found personal integrity, instead.

This is like some sort of deep self-worth issue. Go for a walk in nature, idk. Run AM6 a couple times.
Yeah, women are crazy but why mimic their destructive behavior that is about to pretty much destroy civilization?

And women SHOULD be coming to me begging for sexual favors (Shannon!). In more natural societies where they aren't so self-absorbed, females are always the first to show interest and flirt. They select the males, not the other way around because the man is the stimulus/prize. It's backwards with the glamorization in the Western media where you are like some salivating Pavlov's dog, conditioned to want some fantasy lifestyle or think those insecure girls are all that special underneath their fakeness in the first place. Real recognize real but fakeness is everywhere.

You immigrants/minorities may also need to wake up and realize that blonde pussy isn't your savior like Chaos did.

That's all I felt like saying and I won't stick around for responses, so don't bother. (AM6 Stage 3)

Lol you sound like a whiny nazi pussy to me immigrants? Pavlos dogs? Insecure player? Insecure girls? Women should beg you?

Lol maybe you should wake up and realize what bullshit you are producing, all i read from your post is a whiney 'i am jealous of you guys fucking more women than i am so i am gonna pretend to be enlightend and dont want these bicthes while i masturbate to pornhub everyday' yeah go and take your walks in the forest but stop. Scamming my Journal with your bullshit

And for konfuzius, i dont follow konfuzius i follow mohamed and he said 'the best thing on this earth is a women, i can resist food but i cant resist women' and he was greater leader than kofuzius

And dont worry you will be alone with this attitude the pussys will stay away. From you for sure

@chaos i smell some hostility here against me and sicko? Who am i shaming? I am not shaming anyone but i feel like you guys are trying to shame me and sicko because we life this lifestyle. Why are you trying to force your believes on me and yes fucking different pussy is more fullfilling to me than having no pussy and dont worry i am not going to kill myself, because my goal is. Self development and the pussy is my measurement and indicator you really seem weirde to me lately its more and more going in the directions ryan and some usera did in my sm journal there you supoorted a different position

@Alpha do you know what a fool is to. Me? A guy that drives a few miles to bring a girl her bra back and then whines when she breaks up. With him while i predicted this? Why you care about my steadiness? Did i critizesed you contracdicting yourself? Why do you even care you dont have to marry me

I dont have anything against constructive criticism but i dont let anyone talk to me like this you are not better than me its quite the opposite you are far behind me

I am sure you dont want to be like a women too alpha so why are you bitching around like this now? Or do you want to say you are more of a man than me? You are not i assure you.

I see so much betaness and bullshit in other journals but i dont say anything because i am tolerant but somehow everyone thinks he can say something about my faults and lesson me, you cant lesson me ;-)

[Sickologist]

You guys are missing the inside jokes between me and Dzemoo. We've pretty much seen it all so when some pua (which isn't even related to most of you guys) come up with some new "life changing" way, I can discredit that however I see fit. My way is better, my results prove it.

Time and time again I've given hints to everybody on this forum to check out the stuff that actually works.

And I'm gettting fed up about all the assumptions from some guys on here. Over the last 2 years I've dated beautiful girls who usually do well in school, come from good families etc.

That being said, I'm seriously drawn to the darkside. This is a part of me, I can't change that. I have strong instincts and desires. And thst in turn makes me a better artist, I need those experiences to be excellent within my field.

I haven't knocked anyone here who wanted healing, I've always said get some healing if you need it. And I never said I was better than anyone here.

On the issue of pretentiousness, look no further than alpha260. Seriously guys, read some of his posts, he's totally trying to impose his beliefs onto others. I can ignore it, but I'm also drawing the line somewhere.

All in all, maybe considering some of Dzemoos and my view ain't such a bad thing. If you actually want some success, that is.

Edit: I'll also add that us players often contradict ourselfs because we constantly get into different situations which forces us to contemplate.

[JackOfHearts]

@Alpha do you know what a fool is to. Me? A guy that drives a few miles to bring a girl her bra back and then whines when she breaks up. With him while i predicted this? Why you care about my steadiness? Did i critizesed you contracdicting yourself? Why do you even care you dont have to marry me

I didn't say you were a fool by the way. I said you are making a fool out of yourself, which is vastly different. I won't talk about the other stuff you are going over the edge here. I'm not here to compete with you, just trying to help you realize that you won't get any happiness long term wise with that kind of behavior. Because the women won't respect you once they realized how you behave with them.

I dont have anything against constructive criticism but i dont let anyone talk to me like this you are not better than me its quite the opposite you are far behind me

And how do you measure that? I wouldn't even compare myself with you. Because I don't need to do it and I won't because we are too different, we have different goals, different needs, etc

[Sickologist]

Also, how do Risingson know that me or Dzemoo use game tactics on women? Have you actually read my thread? People who knows me keeps complimimenting me on my honesty and integrity. Assumptions, completely baseless and rooted in jealousy and too much reading of internet articles from self proclained alphas.

Very few members here have original thoughts, I wonder why....

@ alpha360, if you have different goals, then who are you to tell him what to do and how to behave?

[Dzemoo]

Also, how do Risingson know that me or Dzemoo use game tactics on women? Have you actually read my thread? People who knows me keeps complimimenting me on my honesty and integrity. Assumptions, completely baseless and rooted in jealousy and too much reading of internet articles from self proclained alphas.

Very few members here have original thoughts, I wonder why....

@ alpha360, if you have different goals, then who are you to tell him what to do and how to behave?

Thank you thats excactly what i was thinking while reading it

[JackOfHearts]

On the issue of pretentiousness, look no further than alpha260. Seriously guys, read some of his posts, he's totally trying to impose his beliefs onto others. I can ignore it, but I'm also drawing the line somewhere.

Please tell me where I did that. I have to admit I sometimes go too far into this direction. I'm not perfect. But about pretentiousness I'm not the one sleeping with women every night so it's hard for me to believe I would be the one being pretentious here

There is one thing that I regret doing, it's calling my journal "King" but well this was mainly the feeling I felt when running SM3. It wasn't something I did to say I'm the best. But I understand why people would interpret it that way.

[JackOfHearts]

Also, how do Risingson know that me or Dzemoo use game tactics on women? Have you actually read my thread? People who knows me keeps complimimenting me on my honesty and integrity. Assumptions, completely baseless and rooted in jealousy and too much reading of internet articles from self proclained alphas.

Very few members here have original thoughts, I wonder why....

@ alpha360, if you have different goals, then who are you to tell him what to do and how to behave?

I like to give people advice when I think they need it, I may be wrong though. You are free to not listen
I don't understand why you react so negatively over such simple matters. People give advice to others every time. Do you feel threatened that I may know more things than you? It's a simple exchange. Nobody is dead yet.

[Sickologist]

I lost all respect for you when you posted nonsense in Frosted's thread that time. To break it down, Frosted was talking about how he wanted to make money online. Chaos was kind enough to give some of his knowledge for free and provided enough proof to show us he's not full of shit. Frosted were free to do what he wanted with that intel.

You started slamming Chaos for being a know-it-all and trying to impose his beliefs on to the kid. That's crazy. And that's why I usually ignore everything you write. Your posts are often failed attempts to be rational. In other words, not your original thought tested by real experience.

You hinted that Dzemoo thinks like a woman, better go check yourself potna


Edit, yeah, opinions and constructive criticism is welcomed by most here, but you were definitely imposing faulty assumptions onto him. Like you said yourself, you're not him. you will not be percieved by other people the way he does.

[Dzemoo]

Anyone who thinks me and sicko are posting our experiences to show off and proove we are better than he is very childish and dumb

I post my experience because i saw you as my online buddys and community but it seems some of you are not thinking the same was around, i am happy for you when i read your success stories and dont doubt them but it seems its not the same from your side

But seeing this attacks and hate and jealous coming out of nothing shows me that i am hitting a good point with my dmsi run because that always happens when things are going well for me

Its seems this community only gives you sympathy and support when you are down and or completly clueless while the once having success and achieving the programms goal are called confused and get prophecys like ' you wont achieve happiness with this' oh i am so . Scared of it lol i wonder while alle the guys here run attraction subs when it seems they just want spirtual fullfillment

[Sickologist]

Exactly Dzemoo, 90% of the guys here want to hear sob stories so they know they're not the only one's. That's just the truth, I'm not even sure some of you want success.