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I'll put this in my journal later but FRM 4.4 has picked up where FRM4.1 left off in terms of dealing with my fear of success. The way this has occured is that I view fear of success as a bully and as such my response to it has been extremely aggressive. Instead of "man...I really don't want to do this" I consciously recognize it as fear and instead of running away from it simply acknowledge it and attack it right away.

Ex.) Desire to fap leads to "F*ck this shit, it's just going to derail me from what I want. I ain't doing it."

Ex 2) Desire to procrastinate on daily tasks "You're [referring to fear] trying to make me unattractive by not allowing me to do what needs to be done as far as work/school/self development. F*ck you. I'm going to do this task ASAP".

Hopefully I don't jinx myself but I do believe that right now FRM 4.4 is just strong enough to get me recognize my fears (some of them anyway) and be willing to stand up to them.

You're doing great Shannon. Please don't give up. Your FRMs are helping us. Slowly but surely.
 
(02-05-2019, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 02:53 AM)dissonance Wrote: Is E3 your next task? I think I’m going to try out E3. If I want to change from DMSI 3.3.1-D to e3, do I need to take a break? How long?

I was planning to do USLM4 and then E3.

Once USLM4 is done, are you going to insert that into a mini-update for LTU at some point?
 
(02-06-2019, 12:39 AM)dissonance Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 02:53 AM)dissonance Wrote: Is E3 your next task? I think I’m going to try out E3. If I want to change from DMSI 3.3.1-D to e3, do I need to take a break? How long?

I was planning to do USLM4 and then E3.

Once USLM4 is done, are you going to insert that into a mini-update for LTU at some point?

USLM4 is already done. It’s the version that’s in LTU. As I understand it, all he has to do now is separate out all the parts of LTU that aren’t USLM4.
 
(02-05-2019, 03:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 11:54 PM)Username Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 05:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 12:51 PM)Username Wrote: Did 7 days with the new version of dmsi... Now I'm thinking of switching back to last version. I was progressing massively on the last one, but the new is not executing very well... Flipping back to some old patterns, that I had pretty much forgotten that existed. It is resistance for sure, but it kind has a similar feel like going from 3.1>3.2...this version just doesn't fit to my subc. Who knows what exactly triggers it...but I have no interest of seeing where this resistance might take me. Going back and waiting for the new one, while running previous.

Sounds like a good way not to get to the program goal to me.
I think it has to do with the additions, that consider sleep. Just like you can't stay still and run at the same time, so if it takes few nights of restless sleep to process some stuff, I don't mind. There are fundamental rules to life and reality, that you can't change... Gravity still works, no matter what your limiting beliefs are. Same way, if there is some heavy stuff to work through, you can't just snip your fingers and get it over with. If you want to get from point A to point B, at one point you have to take those steps. But most people still choose to wait for the teleportatation to be invented, so they wouldn't have to. I have had a week of nice and peaceful sleep, and now it's time to move on.
And yes, I understand your viewpoint, and most likely I would have said the same thing to someone else.

I'm rather confused as to what you're saying the issue is, and I'm guessing sleep interruption.

Going back to an old version doesn't give me the data I need to advance the technology so it works. It is a free upgrade because you're paying for it with your reports. So you're not keeping up your end of the bargain here. Besides, you didn't really give it much of a chance, either, with only a week of use. I understand that life requires you to be functional, but again, you get it as a free upgrade because I get feedback on each new release. The less feedback I get, the longer the process takes. So you tapping out after a week, and saying, "Yeah, I know it's resistance, but **** it." only tells me that you apparently can't handle the job. It doesn't help, or tell me anything else except to confirm what I have been saying for a while now, which is, as we get close to finished, we will have only two options: run away or execute. So you're not helping me develop this thing, you're just reinforcing that we are close.

FRM is possibly the most ridiculous challenge any one person could have undertaken. I need feedback. Lots of feedback.
And Im giving you the feedback. I'm saying that the previous version was best ever that I have run. And the new version is not. And I think that the new restful sleep addition is responsible. It creates this roadblock that subc does not know how to overcome ... In one hand program wants you to process all the fears and get rid of them but the addition is basically puting chains on you, so the brain can't run freely. A good analogy would be to ask a person to relax while they are in the gym lifting a heavy bar. And yes, this my personal experience, other people may have different ones. I think that this is a best feedback that you can get, if you only want one that supports your ideas and opinions and is positive , then you really don't want an actual feedback. So I can't give you feedback of the new version of dmsi, when it does not execute, as much as I wanted to. The change was clear as a day when going from previous to new one. You can say that the week is not enough, but the 3.3 didn't need any time at all, started working during tid already. Question for you, is why should I wait for the miracle, that may or may not happen, if there is a version that works just fine.
 
Shannon,

Why didn't you include the high effect in Uslm into DMSI?

At the beginning of the new Version of DMSI I got really interesting results but soon after within a week I became numb to life. Literally cant get excited or feeling the joy of life.

Anyways I hope it gets better from now on
 
(02-06-2019, 01:13 AM)Username Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 03:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 11:54 PM)Username Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 05:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(02-04-2019, 12:51 PM)Username Wrote: Did 7 days with the new version of dmsi... Now I'm thinking of switching back to last version. I was progressing massively on the last one, but the new is not executing very well... Flipping back to some old patterns, that I had pretty much forgotten that existed. It is resistance for sure, but it kind has a similar feel like going from 3.1>3.2...this version just doesn't fit to my subc. Who knows what exactly triggers it...but I have no interest of seeing where this resistance might take me. Going back and waiting for the new one, while running previous.

Sounds like a good way not to get to the program goal to me.
I think it has to do with the additions, that consider sleep. Just like you can't stay still and run at the same time, so if it takes few nights of restless sleep to process some stuff, I don't mind. There are fundamental rules to life and reality, that you can't change... Gravity still works, no matter what your limiting beliefs are. Same way, if there is some heavy stuff to work through, you can't just snip your fingers and get it over with. If you want to get from point A to point B, at one point you have to take those steps. But most people still choose to wait for the teleportatation to be invented, so they wouldn't have to. I have had a week of nice and peaceful sleep, and now it's time to move on.
And yes, I understand your viewpoint, and most likely I would have said the same thing to someone else.

I'm rather confused as to what you're saying the issue is, and I'm guessing sleep interruption.

Going back to an old version doesn't give me the data I need to advance the technology so it works. It is a free upgrade because you're paying for it with your reports. So you're not keeping up your end of the bargain here. Besides, you didn't really give it much of a chance, either, with only a week of use. I understand that life requires you to be functional, but again, you get it as a free upgrade because I get feedback on each new release. The less feedback I get, the longer the process takes. So you tapping out after a week, and saying, "Yeah, I know it's resistance, but **** it." only tells me that you apparently can't handle the job. It doesn't help, or tell me anything else except to confirm what I have been saying for a while now, which is, as we get close to finished, we will have only two options: run away or execute. So you're not helping me develop this thing, you're just reinforcing that we are close.

FRM is possibly the most ridiculous challenge any one person could have undertaken. I need feedback. Lots of feedback.
And Im giving you the feedback. I'm saying that the previous version was best ever that I have run. And the new version is not. And I think that the new restful sleep addition is responsible. It creates this roadblock that subc does not know how to overcome ... In one hand program wants you to process all the fears and get rid of them but the addition is basically puting chains on you, so the brain can't run freely. A good analogy would be to ask a person to relax while they are in the gym lifting a heavy bar. And yes, this my personal experience, other people may have different ones. I think that this is a best feedback that you can get, if you only want one that supports your ideas and opinions and is positive , then you really don't want an actual feedback. So I can't give you feedback of the new version of dmsi, when it does not execute, as much as I wanted to. The change was clear as a day when going from previous to new one. You can say that the week is not enough, but the 3.3 didn't need any time at all, started working during tid already. Question for you, is why should I wait for the miracle, that may or may not happen, if there is a version that works just fine.

Okay, so I think in part we have a miscommunication. Please explain to me why you think the sleep adjustments are responsible for this when the sleep adjustments are only aimed at causing you to sleep through whatever you're working on while listening. It's not trying to get you to relax and be tense at the same time, it's trying to get you to deal with your fears in ways that are easy and stress free, and at the same time, stay asleep.

Second, the program doesn't self execute. You execute it or you don't. If you do or don't is your choice. The only difference between FRM 4.1 and 4.4 is the sleep module, how much easier it tries to make the process, and the amount of power behind the instructions. This would mean that your entire issue is with the amount of power behind it. You're fighting "going that fast" to the goal and giving yourself a free pass by personifying the program as being the one who executes or not.

Look, I see your point of view, that 3.3 seems better because it is more readily executed. But 3.3 failed to get everyone else onboard, and I changed it. Now I need to know how it works for people like you in the longer run. Not just a week. Because if you're fighting 4.4, then you probably weren't fully executing 4.1.

Your feedback amounts to, "I don't want to use the new version because I don't like it. It expects more of me than the last version did, and I don't like what it's trying to get me to do." That isn't what I need to know. What I need to know is, how does it affect that reaction after 2, 3, 4, 6, 8 weeks of use?

Once again...

The agreement is, you pay once, and I work for feedback until it's right. But that feedback has to be the feedback I need to get to advance the program. Not "Last version was easier, you should stop there, and I'm going back to it."
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
 
(02-06-2019, 01:42 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

Why didn't you include the high effect in Uslm into DMSI?

As I have said before, LTU is built with USLM4 in it. It has all of everything I planned to put in it, and to build the daughter programs, we simply turn off everything else that isn't the title in question or the skeleton script. So LTU4 will "give birth" to USLM4, E3, UMOP3, etc.

Quote:At the beginning of the new Version of DMSI I got really interesting results but soon after within a week I became numb to life. Literally cant get excited or feeling the joy of life.

Anyways I hope it gets better from now on

Tell me about the results you got and how the transition happened, please.
Subliminal Audio Specialist & Administrator

The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!
 
Which Sub Shannon is currently working on? I see LTU and DMSI-3.3.1 is out. So what's next on his list?
 
(02-06-2019, 06:31 AM)Zane Wrote: Which Sub Shannon is currently working on? I see LTU and DMSI-3.3.1 is out. So what's next on his list?

A few posts above, he said he was working on USLM4 and will likely build it today.
 
(02-05-2019, 03:10 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 02:53 AM)dissonance Wrote: Is E3 your next task? I think I’m going to try out E3. If I want to change from DMSI 3.3.1-D to e3, do I need to take a break? How long?

I was planning to do USLM4 and then E3.

(02-06-2019, 06:31 AM)Zane Wrote: Which Sub Shannon is currently working on? I see LTU and DMSI-3.3.1 is out. So what's next on his list?

Literally just on the prior page. Read the journal, ppl.
 
(02-05-2019, 06:22 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 05:05 PM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, you mentioned fears are being removed quite fast for you in last few days with frm 4.4.

Im almost 2 cycles through dmsi, i havent felt any changes internally or externally, have any suggestions what i should try to do to see something start to happen?

First, understand that for some people, it may take more than 2 cycles.

Second, experiment with settings.

Third, remember that you cannot compare your results to those of others, because others aren't you, and may not be using the same program.

I happen to respond very well to subliminals - my own and those of others, as long as they are made properly. That's a function of my personality as much as anything else. Some people will find FRM 4.4 challenging, which is why I'm not calling it 5.0, which is the finished product.

And last but not least, remember that it is very unlikely that you can stonewall this completely. It is much more likely that you are preventing your conscious self from seeing what is actually happening, in an effort to discourage your use of the program, while changing slowly as you fight the process tooth and nail.

Is the self eeffects ie lack of fear or the auras effect on others is the main way the goal of the program will be reached.
 
(02-05-2019, 06:08 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(02-05-2019, 03:45 PM)KingDavid93 Wrote: Just reposting it in case you didn’t see my post earlier:

“Hi Shannon,

I’ve been on USLM3 since release- so around 3 months now.

How is it that I’ve yet to see any truly significant changes or occurrences on USLM3, but on USLM 1+2 I noticed this positive feeling that everything was going to be ok and I also warmed up while I was playing it (kind of like a DMSI aura effect but it happened consistently when I played as opposed to sporadically with DMSI and it was stronger on 2 than 1 but I haven’t felt it at all on 3).

I regularly won something while playing different lotto games on 1+2 and noticed life and job success- more so on 1 than 2, but there was a boost in lotto winnings on 2.

So my main question is how is it that there were benefits and changes noticed on 1+2 but not really on 3, and the improvement was noticed from 1 to 2 but not really in 3. The main thing I noticed on 3 is that I was dead tired for the first 1-2 weeks then went back to normal- I’ve noticed more sabotage and reverse resistance than anything on USLM3.”

I’m trying to justify not returning to an earlier version of USLM when I noticed results the first several weeks of using both of them.

Well, Version 1 had no FRM and V2 had an early version (V2 if I remember), and V3 has v3.2.

The FRM represents a course of action that the subconscious does not want to take. The stronger it gets, the better it gets, the closer it gets to achieving it's goals regardless of what the subconscious does.

Which is why you see more sabotage and reverse resistance on 3. Your subconscious doesn't want to do what the FRM is telling it to do, and is seeking any possible escape.

Which is why I keep advancing FRM. v3.2 wasn't good enough to be the final version. But it is better and more powerful than v2 and that is apparent by the efforts to resist. If there was no resistance, the goal would be met. Previous versions either didn't aim at the real heart of the matter, or didn't have the power to get past your subconscious escape tactics. This version is good enough and powerful enough that it forces consciously obvious escape tactics to be used to avoid the FRM.


Thanks for the reply- so what you’re saying is that with the introduction of the FRM into USLM most of focus has gone into fear removal- or more likely the resistance towards that removal- leaving a limited amount of focus/energy being paid towards actually being successful at whatever it is you are interested in...
 
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Okay, so I think in part we have a miscommunication. Please explain to me why you think the sleep adjustments are responsible for this when the sleep adjustments are only aimed at causing you to sleep through whatever you're working on while listening. It's not trying to get you to relax and be tense at the same time, it's trying to get you to deal with your fears in ways that are easy and stress free, and at the same time, stay asleep.

Second, the program doesn't self execute. You execute it or you don't. If you do or don't is your choice. The only difference between FRM 4.1 and 4.4 is the sleep module, how much easier it tries to make the process, and the amount of power behind the instructions. This would mean that your entire issue is with the amount of power behind it. You're fighting "going that fast" to the goal and giving yourself a free pass by personifying the program as being the one who executes or not.

Look, I see your point of view, that 3.3 seems better because it is more readily executed. But 3.3 failed to get everyone else onboard, and I changed it. Now I need to know how it works for people like you in the longer run. Not just a week. Because if you're fighting 4.4, then you probably weren't fully executing 4.1.

Your feedback amounts to, "I don't want to use the new version because I don't like it. It expects more of me than the last version did, and I don't like what it's trying to get me to do." That isn't what I need to know. What I need to know is, how does it affect that reaction after 2, 3, 4, 6, 8 weeks of use?

Once again...

The agreement is, you pay once, and I work for feedback until it's right. But that feedback has to be the feedback I need to get to advance the program. Not "Last version was easier, you should stop there, and I'm going back to it."
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Come on Shannon - to a good degree it's not a choice.
Your task is not to seek for Love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
 
Hi Shannon. I just wanted to tank you (again) for making the products, and saying I am impressed about the struggle you have gone through to come where you are. I don't know how it has been but I think I can imagine. Those entrepreneurs that dedicate themselves to what they believe in and do it with fierce commitment over years are truly inspiring and impressive. I'm sure that it will pay off and you will get the success you anticipate in the long term.

One thing I have reflected upon, which maybe is done intentionally for reasons I don't know, is that the description for your product pages is written in a way that members here understand them, but people from the outside new to this stuff, will probably find as confusing as reading the description of a heavy-machinery ment to be used in a industrial park. Maybe you are doing it that way until you are truly satisfied with your products (I guess when you have enough 6G titles)... However, I would think you could have use of hiring a marketing agent (if you are not able/willing to put the time into doing it yourself) to formulate the products in a way that can be more easily absorbed by a general person. This would probably improve your conversion (people buying who see the page) and your number of visits, as the descriptions would go more hand in hand with what people search for on google for finding the solution for their problems (depression, etc).
 
  


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