Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[dissonance]

"I believe I have figured out a major piece of the puzzle for FRM today. I have to wait until I'm not loopy to run the models on it, but it seems foolproof to me. Fingers crossed for FRM 4.4!"

How much longer until FRM 4.4 is finished? If pretty soon, would you want to do 3.3.1-D with jumping to FRM 4.4 instead of trying with FRM 4.3? Or you want to see the effects of 4.3 without the new breakthrough findings of 4.4 before testing out 4.4 itself?

[apollolux]

With all this resurgent talk of The Models ™©®(OMG) I realize I've never asked how long does it usually take to run them given an acceptably sufficient amount of input info?

[dweller94]

I've identified a block that runs deeper than fear well for me anyway, my lack of success is to do with the fact that women reduce my overall happiness. I've noticed that if anything remotely threatens my peace of mind, like when you're in a relationship or dating you start thinking about stuff and it can destroy you depending on your attachment, DMSI so far doesn't seem to have helped get rid of this but I've identified the block, it's simple hoes make me unhappy, whether it's because I'm overthinking shit or I'm trying to see if there's more. If only I genuinely was care free and women wouldn't bring me down my life would be great and full of them, this is why DMSI isn't doing its thing for me (design goal) it's working alright but don't want to say much rn.

Point 1. This is not something that runs deeper than fear. It is fear. You fear that "women will reduce my overall happiness".

Point 2. Identifying that block is part of FRM working on that fear.

Point 3. All females != "hoes". If "hoes" bring you down then find a woman worth having, or at least having sex with.

Based on what you're saying here, you have concluded that "all women are hoes who will make me unhappy", which is definitely a false belief based in faulty logic, which generates FEAR.

And by getting you to the point that you were able to identify that FEAR consciously, FRM IS doing it's thing. Keep going.

Taking this example, if we remove the fear, wouldn't the faulty belief still remain, thus creating the fear again at some point? If we are going forward with FRM & no H&C how will this faulty belief be dealt with? As an analogue, the fear is the tree, but the roots are the beliefs that remain which means the tree (fear) will keep growing after cutting it down.

What causes fear runs deeper than beliefs. When we remove the fear, the beliefs that interact with the cause of the fear to create fear (when it is triggeted by beliefs) are automatically adjusted by the removal of the underlying cause of the fear. If the tree is fear, then FRM results in the tree and all of its roots, branches, twigs, leaves, flowers and fruit evaporating. Ceasing to exist.

Just speculating, but guys I know who think that “girls are hoes” are often not in touch with themselves and failing to have a rewarding relationship with women. They are needy and when this isn’t reciprocated they get angry and blame the women. Sure there are asshole girls but when you blame everyone something may Ben wrong with you.

I guess It’s also based in fear. Fear of facing yourself amen regocnizing what you need to work with to become a healthy individual perhaps.

I think what I wrote was misunderstood but I've taken what you said on board either way, ta.

Okay I should have used girls instead of hoes, too much trap music. Nah I don't see girls as hoes, rn the girls I'm speaking to / dating are really sweet to me and DMSI is doing great for me rn, it's just the deep fear belief whatever it is that results in women causing me unhappiness, I overthink stuff, I know I'm running DMSI but a relationship would be nice appose to just a bang, each to their own, I'm using DMSI for upping my attraction which it's doing but not enough to get me approaches but yeah. I've identified my block anyway, it's been f*cking with my head recently, I'm dating and speaking to women rn wasn't before the latest release and now I'm actually more unhappy than I was then, so I'm blocking myself by thinking I was happier alone. I don't know I'll figure it out, i'ma keep going.

[Shannon]

Shannon, will there ever be a 'remove all fears' sub? Thanks

There will probably be an OF 5.5G or 6G.

Probably in 6G. But it will have to be created very carefully, because once fear is gone, people will have to use their brains (OMG!) and actually think (OMG!) to keep themselves safe instead.

[Shannon]

Quick question for Shannon and anyone running USLM 3.

I accidentally ran 7 loops the other night (clicked repeat on the playlist by mistake).

When I woke up I was initially groggy but I felt super clear, focused and super motivated after a little while/
The stated number of loops is 5 per day or night...but is there anything wrong with running more? Even as an experiment?

If you run more, you're not following the instructions. Beyond that, I can't stop you.

[Shannon]

My question is even with all this high tec anti fear mods healing and clearing and still we can't execute. Where is all this fear coming from and how it'd get so strong that even with the best subs in the world it still having a time at taming it?

It's relatively simple. When the subconscious fears something, the fear grows proportionate to how close that thing is to being experienced. It is how the subconscious thinks it is keeping itself "safe".

The problem is, the more powerful we go, the more likely the experience is, the more fear it generates, and the more nothing happens. Which is why I started with H&C and have moved on to FRM. We have to kill that fear. The situation now is about like holding a dragster back while it is at full blast throttle, using a rubber band. As long as that band holds, the car appears to be doing nothing even with the throttle open and the tires spinning and smoking. When it finally breaks, that car will jump like a bat out of hell to it's goal.

The final challenge is to figure out how to turn off fear without triggering it. And I am going to find the last key when the time is right, but at the moment, it apparently is not. Timing is everything, so they tell me.

What we are attempting to do here by removing the fear has never in the history of mankind been done successfully. So bear with me. It's not the easiest thing to do.

We have complete faith in you Shannon. So with constant updates of the anti-fear mod, and once the fear is handled you think dmsi will explode to a level never before seen? Will it mean us being in a state in which we no longer fear fear at all or just the subconscious be effected?

There are plenty who have no faith in me at all, actually. But I believe that once the FRM is finished, DMSI will be executed at levels never before seen, and people will achieve the goals like never before.

The vast majority of people don't fear fear itself. But fear doesn't just affect the subconscious. Remember that the fears that are removed are the ones that stand in the way of achieving the goals of the program. When they are gone, they will be gone consciously and subconsciously.

[Shannon]

I think it's a good idea. I'm a little disappointed at the same time, b/c being an emotionally-driven person, H&C always helped me quite a bit - especially on the anger and irritability front - and right now my tendency to overreact w/ anger is still on the rise. I always thought the combination of H&C w/ FRM would be the end-all-be-all. Perhaps after a few months, we'll get a chance to see that in action. :hrug::

I have run it through the models recently to see which of the following options produces the best results for DMSI:

1. No H&C, no FRM
2. H&C, No FRM
3. FRM, no H&C
4. H&C and FRM

The clear, hands down winner? Option #3. As I suspected.

That can only mean that when FRM is finished, it not only kills fear, it prevents the need for H&C.

Hi Shannon,

I apologize if you have already answered this in the past, but I am curious about the models you use to test the subs. Are they computer models, actual test subjects, or something else ? I am not looking for trade secrets but I was wondering how you do this. Obviously, whatever method you are using is working beautifully.

The models are three variants of a single theme which has been codified as a computer program, and I have been refining it and the databases it uses since about 2006/7. In fact the program is due for a rewrite to automate a lot of it. I am not looking forward to that, since it is rather ridiculously complex to code and I haven't written or edited the code in several years now.

[Shannon]

Will 3.3.1D include healing again?

3.3.1C is with H&C, which isn't going to be released yet

And C may never be released, if I have my way with FRM...

[Shannon]

"I believe I have figured out a major piece of the puzzle for FRM today. I have to wait until I'm not loopy to run the models on it, but it seems foolproof to me. Fingers crossed for FRM 4.4!"

How much longer until FRM 4.4 is finished? If pretty soon, would you want to do 3.3.1-D with jumping to FRM 4.4 instead of trying with FRM 4.3? Or you want to see the effects of 4.3 without the new breakthrough findings of 4.4 before testing out 4.4 itself?

Well that went from "I hope it comes through the models" in my post to "It's happening, so tell us when" in yours. Apparently you have complete faith in me, lol.

If my idea makes it through modeling and becomes FRM 4.4, it will most likely require about a week for me to model and then script.

If it makes its way through the models, there will be no need to test 4.3. We can proceed directly to 4.4 in DMSI, etc.

[Shannon]

With all this resurgent talk of The Models ™©®(OMG) I realize I've never asked how long does it usually take to run them given an acceptably sufficient amount of input info?

Let's just put it this way. There is a good reason that I spend several times what an average laptop costs on my production laptop, after weeks of carefully researching which brand and model is available that can fulfill my needs, and it's not because I want to play games on it. Running the models can take a long, long time, but the exact amount of time it takes depends on whether they are stable and how many and complex the required queries are.

[Shannon]

Point 1. This is not something that runs deeper than fear. It is fear. You fear that "women will reduce my overall happiness".

Point 2. Identifying that block is part of FRM working on that fear.

Point 3. All females != "hoes". If "hoes" bring you down then find a woman worth having, or at least having sex with.

Based on what you're saying here, you have concluded that "all women are hoes who will make me unhappy", which is definitely a false belief based in faulty logic, which generates FEAR.

And by getting you to the point that you were able to identify that FEAR consciously, FRM IS doing it's thing. Keep going.

Taking this example, if we remove the fear, wouldn't the faulty belief still remain, thus creating the fear again at some point? If we are going forward with FRM & no H&C how will this faulty belief be dealt with? As an analogue, the fear is the tree, but the roots are the beliefs that remain which means the tree (fear) will keep growing after cutting it down.

What causes fear runs deeper than beliefs. When we remove the fear, the beliefs that interact with the cause of the fear to create fear (when it is triggeted by beliefs) are automatically adjusted by the removal of the underlying cause of the fear. If the tree is fear, then FRM results in the tree and all of its roots, branches, twigs, leaves, flowers and fruit evaporating. Ceasing to exist.

Just speculating, but guys I know who think that “girls are hoes” are often not in touch with themselves and failing to have a rewarding relationship with women. They are needy and when this isn’t reciprocated they get angry and blame the women. Sure there are asshole girls but when you blame everyone something may Ben wrong with you.

I guess It’s also based in fear. Fear of facing yourself amen regocnizing what you need to work with to become a healthy individual perhaps.

I think what I wrote was misunderstood but I've taken what you said on board either way, ta.

Okay I should have used girls instead of hoes, too much trap music. Nah I don't see girls as hoes, rn the girls I'm speaking to / dating are really sweet to me and DMSI is doing great for me rn, it's just the deep fear belief whatever it is that results in women causing me unhappiness, I overthink stuff, I know I'm running DMSI but a relationship would be nice appose to just a bang, each to their own, I'm using DMSI for upping my attraction which it's doing but not enough to get me approaches but yeah. I've identified my block anyway, it's been f*cking with my head recently, I'm dating and speaking to women rn wasn't before the latest release and now I'm actually more unhappy than I was then, so I'm blocking myself by thinking I was happier alone. I don't know I'll figure it out, i'ma keep going.

I found my ideal relationship with DMSI 3.1, and it shows every sign of being permanent. I know of at least one other person who did the same. DMSI doesn't force you to bang every woman who offers, or prevent you from selecting, keeping and being faithful to just one... although once you find that one you want to keep, it's a good idea not to use it anymore. Everyone I know who has found such a relationship with DMSI has stopped using it for that reason.

[dissonance]

"I believe I have figured out a major piece of the puzzle for FRM today. I have to wait until I'm not loopy to run the models on it, but it seems foolproof to me. Fingers crossed for FRM 4.4!"

How much longer until FRM 4.4 is finished? If pretty soon, would you want to do 3.3.1-D with jumping to FRM 4.4 instead of trying with FRM 4.3? Or you want to see the effects of 4.3 without the new breakthrough findings of 4.4 before testing out 4.4 itself?

Well that went from "I hope it comes through the models" in my post to "It's happening, so tell us when" in yours. Apparently you have complete faith in me, lol.

If my idea makes it through modeling and becomes FRM 4.4, it will most likely require about a week for me to model and then script.

If it makes its way through the models, there will be no need to test 4.3. We can proceed directly to 4.4 in DMSI, etc.

Lol yeah I just figured with your explanations and experience you must know better than me. Plus, i realized there's no convincing you anyways. Also I decided to just try to run 3.3 during day when I can so i dont get the bad sleep quality i get listening during sleep with 3.3D

[FluffyBunny]

Taking this example, if we remove the fear, wouldn't the faulty belief still remain, thus creating the fear again at some point? If we are going forward with FRM & no H&C how will this faulty belief be dealt with? As an analogue, the fear is the tree, but the roots are the beliefs that remain which means the tree (fear) will keep growing after cutting it down.

What causes fear runs deeper than beliefs. When we remove the fear, the beliefs that interact with the cause of the fear to create fear (when it is triggeted by beliefs) are automatically adjusted by the removal of the underlying cause of the fear. If the tree is fear, then FRM results in the tree and all of its roots, branches, twigs, leaves, flowers and fruit evaporating. Ceasing to exist.

Just speculating, but guys I know who think that “girls are hoes” are often not in touch with themselves and failing to have a rewarding relationship with women. They are needy and when this isn’t reciprocated they get angry and blame the women. Sure there are asshole girls but when you blame everyone something may Ben wrong with you.

I guess It’s also based in fear. Fear of facing yourself amen regocnizing what you need to work with to become a healthy individual perhaps.

I think what I wrote was misunderstood but I've taken what you said on board either way, ta.

Okay I should have used girls instead of hoes, too much trap music. Nah I don't see girls as hoes, rn the girls I'm speaking to / dating are really sweet to me and DMSI is doing great for me rn, it's just the deep fear belief whatever it is that results in women causing me unhappiness, I overthink stuff, I know I'm running DMSI but a relationship would be nice appose to just a bang, each to their own, I'm using DMSI for upping my attraction which it's doing but not enough to get me approaches but yeah. I've identified my block anyway, it's been f*cking with my head recently, I'm dating and speaking to women rn wasn't before the latest release and now I'm actually more unhappy than I was then, so I'm blocking myself by thinking I was happier alone. I don't know I'll figure it out, i'ma keep going.

I found my ideal relationship with DMSI 3.1, and it shows every sign of being permanent. I know of at least one other person who did the same. DMSI doesn't force you to bang every woman who offers, or prevent you from selecting, keeping and being faithful to just one... although once you find that one you want to keep, it's a good idea not to use it anymore. Everyone I know who has found such a relationship with DMSI has stopped using it for that reason.

Currently, this girl i attracted on 3.3v , i would keep as the one thinks i just want to bang her. Shes more of a low self esteem hot girl. Was suppose to see her again the second time but she backed away on the day of. I am pretty inexperienced on what to do with these type of girls...When i saw her she qualifies to me and is more of the shy and low self-esteem type shes young too. Like when i gave her compliments some times she doesnt even believe i mean it...

Anyone have any suggestions of what to do?

[Greenduck]

Shannon, I am contemplating my last relationship where I somewhat got overly attached to the girl, and still in some way am. It's mostly related to a sexual attachment. I haven't experienced this with other girls I have had sex with or being together with, just with her. It's like there is a damn gravitational pull, where I can do anything to get to sleep with her, even loosing myself. I wrote a post about it here if you have time to look it over.

I guess that E2 will take care of it with enough time, but what would really benefit me, would to better understand what causes this kind of attachment in your understanding? Lack of own direction for example? Is it something the girl does that create the situation? An energetic connection? The girl manipulating the male ego? I feel pretty lost on the issue...