Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 8

[Shannon]

Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 Stage 4 of 4
https://subliminal-shop.com/collections/...-4-of-4-6g

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Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 Stages 1, 2, 3 and 4 (The Complete Set)
https://subliminal-shop.com/products/ult...3-and-4-6g

Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 Stage 1 of 4
https://subliminal-shop.com/products/ult...ss-v3-1-6g

Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 Stage 2 of 4
https://subliminal-shop.com/products/ult...-2-of-4-6g

Ultimate Monetary Success v3.1 Stage 3 of 4
https://subliminal-shop.com/products/ult...-3-of-4-6g

Just to clarify:  Has Stage 4 usage changed from 3 months to just one month?

Thank you for pointing that out.  I'll be figuring that out very shortly.

[Shannon]

Shannon, I Am grateful that the additional  program links are available , in this case UMS3- Stage 4. That I dont have to go hunting for it,etc, that it is automatically  linked in my  IML account, Just go there and open the page, download it thats all. thank you. Thanks ,too,for your efforts in putting  UMS3 together. I know and trust that you did an excellent job on it, as you are or will be a user of this program as well,so Im shure it will get Us there  in time!!  Looking forward on things to come. Blessings & Light.

That was the only way to make the program available as a full set and stage by stage at the same time before I was finished making it.  Seemed like an elegant solution.

I was hoping to start using it in June, but it would appear that I will be forced to use the experimental I am still testing for another month instead.  Grumble grumble.  Well the data I am gathering will pay off in the end, so it's still worth it.

[Catman]

Hey @Shannon , I hope things are stabilising for you. It sounded intense there for awhile?

Thank you for the info on X4A-1600, any other information on "extreme cases", I and others I'm sure, would be grateful for.

That said, I know DMSI has been trucking along in planning/experimentation for awhile in the background, how is that progressing?

P.S. I can't seem to get my meme to upload right, oof. Oh well, haha.

It's been more than a little "interesting".

I'm working out what is what.  It would be really helpful if you would report on your experiences.  You have stopped providing feedback, but you're one of the very few "extreme" cases.

DMSI needs some questions answered before I can build it, and I am not able to answer those questions right now.  I'm working on it.

Hello @Shannon,

I apologise for not reporting for a long time. I did not enjoy a lot of the "spirited discussions" (read: toxicity lol) that ensued on my journals in the past so steered WAY clear of that possibility. 

However, it seems my perspective can be helpful, so I will do a post now to speak on my experience thus far.



Regimen: Day 86 today. 3 loops per day on cycle, ultrasonic. I have had so many urges to increase the loops over time, especially since they're done so quickly now compared to before...but I've always fought myself about doing it due to this post:

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid267088


I can co-sign a lot of the things mentioned in this post to be largely what I experience so far as well. "Exhaustion, feelings of insecurity, inadequacy, etc." as he says, all often present and accounted for. Not always, they kinda ebb and flow over time. It can often feel like you're two people, or multiple personalities, diametrically opposed to each other. I've experienced that with subs for a long time during periods, but this is my first 6G program. It seems to be a cut above thus far. Here is the reference post for this:

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Bayas...#pid267112


I started getting some depressing, quite dark feelings etc. on off days in a bit more intense fashion than the usual fare somewhat early on. I over time cut the off days down to 2, based off this post to encourage me it was okay to do so. It helped me keep the forward momentum I suspect going forward. Largely, the off days haven't been like that since.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Papag...#pid267406


Also experienced a lot of anxiety and dread in like mini-spikes for hours or a day or so over time which were disruptive, for sure. Similar to this post. Shannon's reply to it was appreciated.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-OSC-6...#pid267545


If we could please get more information on the specifics of these kinds of resistance points, I'd be so deeply grateful. This post obviously spoke to me. Also, I'd like to know if this is determined to be the "high end worst case scenario" for the sub.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid268348


Socially, I see elements of what this person describes. How things seem to be better and vibe well etc. there's like a social lubricant effect going on. It's noticeable and potent often. I have not "hooked up" though (which isn't my goal anyway, random hookups etc.), but I can co-sign the other elements.

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid267196


Truthfully, for the time being, I don't know for SURE if I've become more "sexually arousing" to females I interact with. It's possible, but without women being quite extreme and forward, I wouldn't know for sure. That's a problem between the genders long before this program became invented, to be honest. I see elements of the stuff I listed above, but for me, "sexually arousing" seems to be thought of to me as like "boy band" reactions with girls or the "axe effect", lmao. This "subtle" nature with women makes it hard to know what exactly is going on in their heads. But I can report that the social elements described seem to be occurring with many people, guys and girls. Many girls have been attractive to me that I interact with at events, but I've really only been "serious" intent about one in particular. I look at the sales page, and can check off these with the main particular female I have been interested in and getting data from interactions with her:

'They begin giving you attention, or more attention than usual.
They may suddenly find reasons to be near you, and may repeat this behavior as much as possible.
They start making prolonged and/or direct eye contact (staring).
Fidgeting a lot, becoming nervous.
Creating opportunities and excuses to be physically close to you.
Initiating conversation with you.
You may see them begin subtlety (or not-so-subtly) showing off whatever they believe are their best sexual assets, trying to get you interested."

Now, there were complications in the past, over a year ago, resulting in awkwardness and a lot of pain if I'm honest on my end, etc. but since then these signals have appeared from 1511 usage and nowadays 1600 usage. But I have been inhibited due to wanting to be consistent to a talk from long ago. But still, regardless, no sexual activity or attempts to ask me on a date at this point etc. So make of it what you will, in the end.
 
 
This is the big one, the reason why I decided to post mainly now. I had written about this and wrestled intensely with this for about two weeks now, and only this week, is the storm seemingly going away. Again. My experience has largely mirrored the two posts referenced below, shockingly. Basically, my experience has been ebbs and flows, feeling good or "okay/normal", then poof, darkness/dread/anxiety/inability to sleep properly/negative thoughts about myself and women and if this will ever work etc. However, with this BIG event, it's been far more intense. Shannon's first post about this I screenshotted awhile back as I have a big folder on my PC of lots of relevant screenshots for reviewing during the program. Thankfully I did that, as I've kept it as validation that I wasn't going insane or anything, haha. Basically, with this, I went through the normal described ebb and flow period above, then BOOM...deep decline in mental state, very dark, intense exhaustion, stayed away from everyone and was too exhausted and felt so awful I didn't want to go out or deal with anyone, this vague dread or melancholy kinda, very deep and intense in a way where I couldn't even really understand consciously what EXACTLY is causing it. I suspected it could possibly be the sub, naturally. Also, an anniversary of a very tragic event was somewhat recent, also I tend to go through depressive periods due to my issues with women at times too semi-regularly. But this seemed either different, or a combination of the factors, I don't know.

It was like normal ebb and flow described above>steep decline into dark pit for about 5 days>stable for about a 12-24 hour period>even steeper decline into similar pit for also about 5 days again>now...thankfully...for 2-3 days...I SEEM to be coming out of this...maybe...?...I don't know. I thought I was clear the first time, I didn't expect the second drop, to be honest. I don't even know if I'm truly coming out of this new deeper pit, or if there will be another one. Who knows. I also sadly don't know what this has been all about. I'm envious of Shannon for somehow knowing what was his cause, if that turns out to be the case. It'd be fascinating to know what it is, the "face of the enemy" so to speak. The thing that perhaps has caused so much pain and damage to a person, whatever it may be. There may be more than one for people, of course. But it'd be fascinating to know what they are. I guess some are more sensitive or perceptive than others, which I freely admit is possible.

It may be worth trying to fix the key script for 1600 and I could try it. I'd be willing to do that or pay a fee for such a thing if I have to I guess. Given the fact my experience is so similar, it MUST mean things are on the right track?

Reference posts for this part:
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid267933
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid268466
 
 
I apologise for probably taking up a whole page of the journal for all of this. It felt like the least I can do given the lack of reporting for some time and being requested to post by you, Shannon. With your recent posts about this like "Lvl Over 9000 Resistance BROOOOO!!!!11!!1!!!", and my experience possibly echoing it, I thought it was necessary to reach out. I was humbled you referenced me, it's been a long journey and I firmly believe from day one you and IML could help me change my life. Here we are, friend. 

Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel for both of us, after all. 

I wish everyone the change in their lives they strive for.

[MegaMan]

I've got a problem with an old subscription of EHPRAv6 the order number is 2402 and hope you can help @Benjamin. The subscription is cancelled since last year, but I still see the 'Stream Now' button for E6 under downloads.
Could you please deactivate it for me, as I cancelled the subscription? Thank you for your help.

That will have to be something Steve will have to have a look at, as we can't see a reason it happens in some cases. Thanks for letting me know.

I can confirm the issue is fixed now. Thanks a lot.

[MegaMan]

Recently I finished a 4 months run of Money Magnet 5.11G, overall I am satisfied with the experience.
During bloom after MM I experienced heavy resistance. I am reporting because I also encountered heavy resistance during the bloom of E6.
This time on day 9 after the last MM exposure, I had the worst constipation I can remember. I am attributing this to resistance because I ate nothing unusual and had dreams about engaging and overcoming my fears the night before.
After 13 days of bloom I started OGSF 6G.

[Frosted]

@Shannon Do you have an estimate for when the next version of EHPRA will be built? Where is it in the queue?

Things have gotten pretty scrambled in my life for the last few months, and this seems to be as a result of both external influences and the effects of the internal resistance experiment.  I don't have a queue right now.  I have to pull myself together and finish Stage 4 UMS and publish one of the programs we've been testing in the background.

EHPRA won't be far off, though.

Awesome! As long as nothing changes, EPHRA is my next buy when it comes out. The way OGSF3 is going for me just wants me to keep cycling these two for awhile to get my basics handled.

By the way, if I were to want to rerun OGSF3 after I finish my current OGSF3 run, how long of a break should I take? Do you think I’d be better off running something else to refresh my brain before going back to it? If the diminishing returns of back to back runs are high enough I’d rather run something else in between.

[Buz]

Does anyone know how long a break you should take between 6g subs? I've been on OSC for a while, and am considering my next option.

[4Kingdoms]

https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid268537

It would appear that I have finally managed to wrangle the RedHat based OS and Debian based OS to cooperate enough re the permissions on the old backup drive to actually recover the scripts for AM6. I have been avoiding doing this because I have been dreading doing it so much. And it didn't even require the 16 hours I thought it would.

It blows my mind that there could be so much difficulty just changing permissions on a backup drive. It should be so simple to do. I despise the way Debian handles permissions and security.

Regardless, it is finally done. From here the actual work can begin.

This will require months to do, so there will be other titles coming out in the mean time. I am not exactly looking forward to making another ulti-stage program right away after finishing the last one. But now... AM 7 can finally get underway.

[Sir Ovaltine Jenkins III]

Does anyone know how long a break you should take between 6g subs? I've been on OSC for a while, and am considering my next option.

Yeah, it’s recommended to take between 1-2 weeks off leaning more towards 2 weeks between subs.

[ncbeareatingman]

How many Stages will, AM7 Be, Shannon? Haven't decided yet or same as before? Thanks. Keith.

[samba99]

Shannon,

My experience with your products have always been “less is more” the instructions is almost always over kill for me for some reason.

Even know with 6G, My experience using UMS stage 1, I had alot of resistance (or is this just healing?)

My question, can you check with the models if there is a new set of instructions for people who benefit from using less time, as an example I have seen here is Duke also benefited from using less time.

[josh84]

Hi Shannon,
I have just had a cochlear implant put in recently, my phone is connected to my hearing device, i know you prefer it go by speakers when listening but could i listen to the subliminals going directly into my ear. 
Its not really going directly into my ear like a hearing aid as the hearing device sits on top and sounds are converted into electrical signals.

Would it not be good if goes directly into my ear instead of speakers or would you suggest try not to do it that way and only use speakers on phone?

Thanks
Josh.