DMSI 5.0 6G Journal

[ichigo]

Background

33 year old male. Single. Some previous sexual experiences including LTR but nothing for the last few years.

Listening Patterns

Hard Case Mode: 4 loops (140 mins (2 hours 20 mins) total), 3 days on, 2 days off, vol 8/16 iPhone

Days Listened

12.08.2025 - 21.08.2025 (Came from listening to X4A 6G with a 2-day break in between)

Results

-Started experiencing what I think was TID from FRM about 1 week before I started the programme. I became very conscious of my lower back and how inflexible it is. When in bed I would do deep breathing to try and fill it up and activate it. This would cause uncomfortable sensations. Previously I interpreted this as pain, as if I was doing something wrong and going to injure myself by trying to activate it too much. Now I found myself trying to speak to it, tell it it was part of me and that we wanted to reintegrate it back into my overall system. I have some basic knowledge of "parts work" from psychotherapy but I've never associated it with my lower back before. This focus on my lower back continued throughout my listen.

-Standard DMSI results that I got from previous versions are also present:
-Better looking facial expressions, finding myself having thoughts about how sexy I am
-Improved mood, happier day to day, less stressed, more fun and sociable 
-Increased stares from women, particularly if they don't think I'm looking and I suddenly turn to look, they'll often get "caught" and quickly look away
-Voice deeper 
-More relaxed 
-Body would heat up sometimes, veins popping, particularly after a large meal

-Attended a wedding where I didn't know anyone. I found it much easier to socialise than usual, and found myself being automatically flirty with some women. They were covert in their interest. Also had some more overt interest from a couple of gay men, including one who invited me back to his room for drinks which I politely declined. I'm not gay but the interest from men shows baseline attractiveness increased.

So with all these results, why did I stop listening on 21.08.2025 after just over 1 week on the sub?

I suffer from some issues with weak erections sometimes. I'm not 100% on the cause, but it's interesting how the differences between X4A and DMSI seem to impact it:

-X4A gives me stronger erections
-DMSI gives me weaker erections (this was the case on previous versions also)

Because I started to feel the lack of erection ability from DMSI, I panicked and swapped back to X4A. As what's the point in being sexually attractive, seducing a woman, and then when it comes time for sex you're unable to perform?

I have some theories. X4A is a sexual arousal aura so makes sense it would help me with sexual arousal myself. DMSI is a sexually attractive aura. This may be actually taking the energy I would use for erections and instead using it up on making me "sexy" instead, at the expense of sexual arousal energy? 

I was hoping the change to use for "genetic males only" might change this for me but it doesn't seem to have been the case so far.

However, after reading some of the latest posts from Shannon, I've decided to go back to DMSI. I want to see what the FRM can do for me if I give it enough time, as it was clearly doing something. I'll just live with the erection issues while it's doing it's work, and who knows, perhaps it's somehow fear related and this would help me to clear up that issue in the long-term.

TlR:

DMSI works for me. It's worked for me since v1, in that it makes me more sexually attractive and approachable to women. But I think I am quite a unique case when it comes this issue of erection strength. 

I'll keep going and report back with any updates! 

Sniper feedback / questions for Shannon:

-I get confused about how the sexually attractive aura works, and what kind of results we're supposed to expect, particularly in regards to the sniper. With v1 of DMSI (Aura of Sexual Irresistibility 5.5G), there was no sniper, but I'd see blatant results from people in my vicinity e.g. sex flushes, complaints of heat, blatant IOIs from them. I'd also feel and see the aura on myself: sunburn face, breathing hot, heat in forearms with veins popping. 

Then ever since the sniper was introduced in later versions, I still feel the aura myself sometimes, but I don't see those blatant effects on others. I just get increased stares and milder IOIs. It's like I'm only ever activating the baseline aura and not the snipers. Could you help clarify what we should be feeling and and the effects we should be seeing on others when the sniper kicks in for DMSI?

To contrast, when I run X4A, I feel very clearly when the sniper starts hitting someone. I feel strong vibrations/tingling in my genitals/root, burning sensation in my upper thighs and heat in the face. I also clearly see the effects on the person being sniped in terms of sex flushing, wagging lags, etc. So X4A sniper is obvious when it's kicking in to me... but DMSI's I'm not sure what to look for or what to expect. If it's not arousing them (or is it supposed to be?) then what is it doing when it snipes versus when they're just reacting to your baseline sexy aura? What does it mean to snipe someone with your "sexual attractiveness" if the goal isn't to sexually arouse them? Why would we not want to attract and arouse at the same time if that's possible?

Like I noticed you saw people sex flushing around you with a few seconds listen of this version. I saw that on v1 DMSI (AOSI), I see it on X4A, but for some reason I don't see it with the later versions of DMSI. 

Wishlist product (probably won't happen, but can't hurt to ask!)

-Sexual arousal sniper aura, snipes everyone according to how attractive you find them, but not telling them what to do with their arousal to preserve free will / relationships / etc (same as X4A)
-No auto seduction / auto pilot (so can work for couples too)
-Passive sexually attractive / arousal aura that focuses on attractiveness but with the caveat you have enough sexual arousal energy built up first that you're able to perform sexually
-Other attractiveness amplifiers (body language, voice, celeb effect)
-Enhance self-esteem, self-respect etc. (Goal #2 of DMSI)
-FRM focused on being as sexually attractive / arousing as possible

Hope this is helpful in some way, and thanks for the free release for early DMSI'ers, Shannon.

[Roy]

Could the weak erections be a form of resistance to DMSI working? It seems like an easy excuse for you to stop after getting results.

[ichigo]

Could be! I’m not sure. If the goal is to be sexually attractive and have women hitting on you and approaching you for sex, technically I’m executing (or close enough). It’s just the erection problem. Doesn’t happen with X4A, quite the opposite.

[Shannon]

Background



33 year old male. Single. Some previous sexual experiences including LTR but nothing for the last few years.



Listening Patterns



Hard Case Mode: 4 loops (140 mins (2 hours 20 mins) total), 3 days on, 2 days off, vol 8/16 iPhone



Days Listened



12.08.2025 - 21.08.2025 (Came from listening to X4A 6G with a 2-day break in between)



Results



-Started experiencing what I think was TID from FRM about 1 week before I started the programme. I became very conscious of my lower back and how inflexible it is. When in bed I would do deep breathing to try and fill it up and activate it. This would cause uncomfortable sensations. Previously I interpreted this as pain, as if I was doing something wrong and going to injure myself by trying to activate it too much. Now I found myself trying to speak to it, tell it it was part of me and that we wanted to reintegrate it back into my overall system. I have some basic knowledge of "parts work" from psychotherapy but I've never associated it with my lower back before. This focus on my lower back continued throughout my listen.



-Standard DMSI results that I got from previous versions are also present:

-Better looking facial expressions, finding myself having thoughts about how sexy I am

-Improved mood, happier day to day, less stressed, more fun and sociable 

-Increased stares from women, particularly if they don't think I'm looking and I suddenly turn to look, they'll often get "caught" and quickly look away

-Voice deeper 

-More relaxed 

-Body would heat up sometimes, veins popping, particularly after a large meal



-Attended a wedding where I didn't know anyone. I found it much easier to socialise than usual, and found myself being automatically flirty with some women. They were covert in their interest. Also had some more overt interest from a couple of gay men, including one who invited me back to his room for drinks which I politely declined. I'm not gay but the interest from men shows baseline attractiveness increased.



So with all these results, why did I stop listening on 21.08.2025 after just over 1 week on the sub?



I suffer from some issues with weak erections sometimes. I'm not 100% on the cause, but it's interesting how the differences between X4A and DMSI seem to impact it:



-X4A gives me stronger erections

-DMSI gives me weaker erections (this was the case on previous versions also)



Because I started to feel the lack of erection ability from DMSI, I panicked and swapped back to X4A. As what's the point in being sexually attractive, seducing a woman, and then when it comes time for sex you're unable to perform?



I have some theories. X4A is a sexual arousal aura so makes sense it would help me with sexual arousal myself. DMSI is a sexually attractive aura. This may be actually taking the energy I would use for erections and instead using it up on making me "sexy" instead, at the expense of sexual arousal energy? 



I was hoping the change to use for "genetic males only" might change this for me but it doesn't seem to have been the case so far.



However, after reading some of the latest posts from Shannon, I've decided to go back to DMSI. I want to see what the FRM can do for me if I give it enough time, as it was clearly doing something. I'll just live with the erection issues while it's doing it's work, and who knows, perhaps it's somehow fear related and this would help me to clear up that issue in the long-term.



TlR:



DMSI works for me. It's worked for me since v1, in that it makes me more sexually attractive and approachable to women. But I think I am quite a unique case when it comes this issue of erection strength. 



I'll keep going and report back with any updates! 



Sniper feedback / questions for Shannon:



-I get confused about how the sexually attractive aura works, and what kind of results we're supposed to expect, particularly in regards to the sniper. With v1 of DMSI (Aura of Sexual Irresistibility 5.5G), there was no sniper, but I'd see blatant results from people in my vicinity e.g. sex flushes, complaints of heat, blatant IOIs from them. I'd also feel and see the aura on myself: sunburn face, breathing hot, heat in forearms with veins popping. 



Then ever since the sniper was introduced in later versions, I still feel the aura myself sometimes, but I don't see those blatant effects on others. I just get increased stares and milder IOIs. It's like I'm only ever activating the baseline aura and not the snipers. Could you help clarify what we should be feeling and and the effects we should be seeing on others when the sniper kicks in for DMSI?



To contrast, when I run X4A, I feel very clearly when the sniper starts hitting someone. I feel strong vibrations/tingling in my genitals/root, burning sensation in my upper thighs and heat in the face. I also clearly see the effects on the person being sniped in terms of sex flushing, wagging lags, etc. So X4A sniper is obvious when it's kicking in to me... but DMSI's I'm not sure what to look for or what to expect. If it's not arousing them (or is it supposed to be?) then what is it doing when it snipes versus when they're just reacting to your baseline sexy aura? What does it mean to snipe someone with your "sexual attractiveness" if the goal isn't to sexually arouse them? Why would we not want to attract and arouse at the same time if that's possible?



Like I noticed you saw people sex flushing around you with a few seconds listen of this version. I saw that on v1 DMSI (AOSI), I see it on X4A, but for some reason I don't see it with the later versions of DMSI. 



Wishlist product (probably won't happen, but can't hurt to ask!)



-Sexual arousal sniper aura, snipes everyone according to how attractive you find them, but not telling them what to do with their arousal to preserve free will / relationships / etc (same as X4A)

-No auto seduction / auto pilot (so can work for couples too)

-Passive sexually attractive / arousal aura that focuses on attractiveness but with the caveat you have enough sexual arousal energy built up first that you're able to perform sexually

-Other attractiveness amplifiers (body language, voice, celeb effect)

-Enhance self-esteem, self-respect etc. (Goal #2 of DMSI)

-FRM focused on being as sexually attractive / arousing as possible



Hope this is helpful in some way, and thanks for the free release for early DMSI'ers, Shannon.

With regards to your erectile responses to X4A and DMSI, the reasons for that will include the following:

1. X4A is working directly to arouse, and it will therefore be flooding you with arousing energy.  DMSI is working to attract, and it will flood you with attractive energy.  
2. Arousing energy will arouse you regardless of your sex, but attractive energy will not be attractive to yourself: a straight man expressing arousing energy intended to attract and interest straight women will not be attracted by that energy, because that is what he already is and has, not what he is trying to achieve.
3. Erectile issues can stem from a lot of different causes, but most men these days who experience ED are experiencing it because of either advanced age (low hormone levels) or because of what I call psychological entanglement.  In other words, they get into a feedback loop of responses to what they read, see and experience that causes them to experience ED as a result and it's usually self reinforcing.  It basically boils down to deep subconscious fears.  If this is part of what stands in the way of you achieving the full potential of DMSI - and it would seem that while some parts of you definitely execute, others would be afraid of being humiliated, embarassed, etc. should a sexual opportunity actually arise - then FRM will kickj in and focus on working you through whatever is in the way.  That would definitely not be what I would expect to cause easy erections.
4. X4A is designed as a reaction tto DMSI.  It is designed to be as light, simple and easy to execute as possible in v1xxx, and this means it is trying to achieve it's goals in part by not triggering fears or resistance in guys who have those to deal with in response to DMSI.  It will therefore be easier to flow with sexually, because it's not trying to dig out the issues and work you through them, or achieve some grand plan that might be more likely to scare some guys.

Giving up on DMSI isn't how you do it.  You have no idea what DMSI 5 in 6G is going to be able to accomplish until you run it properly.

Sniper feedback / questions for Shannon:

-I get confused about how the sexually attractive aura works, and what kind of results we're supposed to expect, particularly in regards to the sniper. With v1 of DMSI (Aura of Sexual Irresistibility 5.5G), there was no sniper, but I'd see blatant results from people in my vicinity e.g. sex flushes, complaints of heat, blatant IOIs from them. I'd also feel and see the aura on myself: sunburn face, breathing hot, heat in forearms with veins popping. 

Then ever since the sniper was introduced in later versions, I still feel the aura myself sometimes, but I don't see those blatant effects on others. I just get increased stares and milder IOIs. It's like I'm only ever activating the baseline aura and not the snipers. Could you help clarify what we should be feeling and and the effects we should be seeing on others when the sniper kicks in for DMSI?

To contrast, when I run X4A, I feel very clearly when the sniper starts hitting someone. I feel strong vibrations/tingling in my genitals/root, burning sensation in my upper thighs and heat in the face. I also clearly see the effects on the person being sniped in terms of sex flushing, wagging lags, etc. So X4A sniper is obvious when it's kicking in to me... but DMSI's I'm not sure what to look for or what to expect. If it's not arousing them (or is it supposed to be?) then what is it doing when it snipes versus when they're just reacting to your baseline sexy aura? What does it mean to snipe someone with your "sexual attractiveness" if the goal isn't to sexually arouse them? Why would we not want to attract and arouse at the same time if that's possible?

Like I noticed you saw people sex flushing around you with a few seconds listen of this version. I saw that on v1 DMSI (AOSI), I see it on X4A, but for some reason I don't see it with the later versions of DMSI. 

Version 1 was a very un-calibrated attempt at what became DMSI later.  It did not have snipers, but it also did not have any limits on energy usage or any efforts at efficient energy usage or sourcing.  If you will recall, it was exhausting to run and made people eat double what they would normally eat to keep up, and then it was exhausting to run anyway.  Version 1 was burning people out to achieve those results.  It wasn't good, or sustainable.

The sniper isn't going to reduce results.  It's going to create a set of two different possible results (or three, since v5 has the short and medium range sniper).  You'll have Baseline, which is just being affected by the aura.  You'll have the influence of the Short Range Sniper (SRS), and you will have the influence of the Medium Range Sniper (MRS).

The snipers affect those being sniped by focusing the energy of your aura on them and increasing the intensity of the energy to elicit more awareness of the effect, get their attention and make you more obvious to them, as well as increase their attraction according to how they rank on your physical attractiveness scale.

One thing you should know is that women are masters of disguise.  They can be ragingly aroused or extremely attracted, but you might have no idea if she's trying to hide it.  That happens when she's attracted or aroused enough to know it, but not attracted or aroused enough to overcome whatever reasons she has to try to fight that response.  The more attractive she is, the harder she'll be sniped, but also, the more she will tend to try to curb her responses, at least in public. DMSI attempts to get her to do what she needs to do to get you in a position where she has sufficient privacy to act on her attraction as she desires, but you don't necessarily know what her reasons for fighting the influence are.  Maybe she's married, engaged, in a LTR, has a baby, has had bad experiences letting her vajayjay make decisions for her, or maybe she's just not feeling good physically or emotionally that day.  Lots of things to consider.

Attraction as the goal is intended to generate arousal as a secondary function, in response to the attraction.  It's intended to give you a 1-2 punch, instead of "just a right hook" (arousal only).  

Oh, and another thing to consider is that women can smell in-congruence a mile away.  If you are signaling attractive qualities, but in some way you're also signaling unattractive qualities (insecurity, uncertainty, fear, etc., her automatic response will be to conclude that you're either not fully developed or you're not really as attractive as you're trying to portray yourself to be.  That can also significantly reduce, or even kill, responses.

Finally... I think you would see it a lot more on DMSI - you, specifically, and guys like you - if there was no FRM.  The FRM is a "damned if I do and damned if I don't" thing, because if I put it in, it immediately throws guys into fear removal, instead of full execution.  If I don't, then it will immediately force the program to start working on fear removal anyway, but without anywhere near as much finesse, and it will tend to get more results for certain guys depending on what they need - but it won't work for a lot of "hard cases" because they need FRM so much.  

My results are what you would get from full execution.  You have to get through the internal blockages to achieve full execution.  DMSI is trying to do a lot more than X4A is, and it's a much more complex script.  X4A is light specifically to minimize the amount of chance for anything to trigger fears that would slow down or impair results.  DMSI is going for the gold, so to speak.

[ichigo]

Background



33 year old male. Single. Some previous sexual experiences including LTR but nothing for the last few years.



Listening Patterns



Hard Case Mode: 4 loops (140 mins (2 hours 20 mins) total), 3 days on, 2 days off, vol 8/16 iPhone



Days Listened



12.08.2025 - 21.08.2025 (Came from listening to X4A 6G with a 2-day break in between)



Results



-Started experiencing what I think was TID from FRM about 1 week before I started the programme. I became very conscious of my lower back and how inflexible it is. When in bed I would do deep breathing to try and fill it up and activate it. This would cause uncomfortable sensations. Previously I interpreted this as pain, as if I was doing something wrong and going to injure myself by trying to activate it too much. Now I found myself trying to speak to it, tell it it was part of me and that we wanted to reintegrate it back into my overall system. I have some basic knowledge of "parts work" from psychotherapy but I've never associated it with my lower back before. This focus on my lower back continued throughout my listen.



-Standard DMSI results that I got from previous versions are also present:

-Better looking facial expressions, finding myself having thoughts about how sexy I am

-Improved mood, happier day to day, less stressed, more fun and sociable 

-Increased stares from women, particularly if they don't think I'm looking and I suddenly turn to look, they'll often get "caught" and quickly look away

-Voice deeper 

-More relaxed 

-Body would heat up sometimes, veins popping, particularly after a large meal



-Attended a wedding where I didn't know anyone. I found it much easier to socialise than usual, and found myself being automatically flirty with some women. They were covert in their interest. Also had some more overt interest from a couple of gay men, including one who invited me back to his room for drinks which I politely declined. I'm not gay but the interest from men shows baseline attractiveness increased.



So with all these results, why did I stop listening on 21.08.2025 after just over 1 week on the sub?



I suffer from some issues with weak erections sometimes. I'm not 100% on the cause, but it's interesting how the differences between X4A and DMSI seem to impact it:



-X4A gives me stronger erections

-DMSI gives me weaker erections (this was the case on previous versions also)



Because I started to feel the lack of erection ability from DMSI, I panicked and swapped back to X4A. As what's the point in being sexually attractive, seducing a woman, and then when it comes time for sex you're unable to perform?



I have some theories. X4A is a sexual arousal aura so makes sense it would help me with sexual arousal myself. DMSI is a sexually attractive aura. This may be actually taking the energy I would use for erections and instead using it up on making me "sexy" instead, at the expense of sexual arousal energy? 



I was hoping the change to use for "genetic males only" might change this for me but it doesn't seem to have been the case so far.



However, after reading some of the latest posts from Shannon, I've decided to go back to DMSI. I want to see what the FRM can do for me if I give it enough time, as it was clearly doing something. I'll just live with the erection issues while it's doing it's work, and who knows, perhaps it's somehow fear related and this would help me to clear up that issue in the long-term.



TlR:



DMSI works for me. It's worked for me since v1, in that it makes me more sexually attractive and approachable to women. But I think I am quite a unique case when it comes this issue of erection strength. 



I'll keep going and report back with any updates! 



Sniper feedback / questions for Shannon:



-I get confused about how the sexually attractive aura works, and what kind of results we're supposed to expect, particularly in regards to the sniper. With v1 of DMSI (Aura of Sexual Irresistibility 5.5G), there was no sniper, but I'd see blatant results from people in my vicinity e.g. sex flushes, complaints of heat, blatant IOIs from them. I'd also feel and see the aura on myself: sunburn face, breathing hot, heat in forearms with veins popping. 



Then ever since the sniper was introduced in later versions, I still feel the aura myself sometimes, but I don't see those blatant effects on others. I just get increased stares and milder IOIs. It's like I'm only ever activating the baseline aura and not the snipers. Could you help clarify what we should be feeling and and the effects we should be seeing on others when the sniper kicks in for DMSI?



To contrast, when I run X4A, I feel very clearly when the sniper starts hitting someone. I feel strong vibrations/tingling in my genitals/root, burning sensation in my upper thighs and heat in the face. I also clearly see the effects on the person being sniped in terms of sex flushing, wagging lags, etc. So X4A sniper is obvious when it's kicking in to me... but DMSI's I'm not sure what to look for or what to expect. If it's not arousing them (or is it supposed to be?) then what is it doing when it snipes versus when they're just reacting to your baseline sexy aura? What does it mean to snipe someone with your "sexual attractiveness" if the goal isn't to sexually arouse them? Why would we not want to attract and arouse at the same time if that's possible?



Like I noticed you saw people sex flushing around you with a few seconds listen of this version. I saw that on v1 DMSI (AOSI), I see it on X4A, but for some reason I don't see it with the later versions of DMSI. 



Wishlist product (probably won't happen, but can't hurt to ask!)



-Sexual arousal sniper aura, snipes everyone according to how attractive you find them, but not telling them what to do with their arousal to preserve free will / relationships / etc (same as X4A)

-No auto seduction / auto pilot (so can work for couples too)

-Passive sexually attractive / arousal aura that focuses on attractiveness but with the caveat you have enough sexual arousal energy built up first that you're able to perform sexually

-Other attractiveness amplifiers (body language, voice, celeb effect)

-Enhance self-esteem, self-respect etc. (Goal #2 of DMSI)

-FRM focused on being as sexually attractive / arousing as possible



Hope this is helpful in some way, and thanks for the free release for early DMSI'ers, Shannon.

With regards to your erectile responses to X4A and DMSI, the reasons for that will include the following:

1. X4A is working directly to arouse, and it will therefore be flooding you with arousing energy.  DMSI is working to attract, and it will flood you with attractive energy.  
2. Arousing energy will arouse you regardless of your sex, but attractive energy will not be attractive to yourself: a straight man expressing arousing energy intended to attract and interest straight women will not be attracted by that energy, because that is what he already is and has, not what he is trying to achieve.
3. Erectile issues can stem from a lot of different causes, but most men these days who experience ED are experiencing it because of either advanced age (low hormone levels) or because of what I call psychological entanglement.  In other words, they get into a feedback loop of responses to what they read, see and experience that causes them to experience ED as a result and it's usually self reinforcing.  It basically boils down to deep subconscious fears.  If this is part of what stands in the way of you achieving the full potential of DMSI - and it would seem that while some parts of you definitely execute, others would be afraid of being humiliated, embarassed, etc. should a sexual opportunity actually arise - then FRM will kickj in and focus on working you through whatever is in the way.  That would definitely not be what I would expect to cause easy erections.
4. X4A is designed as a reaction tto DMSI.  It is designed to be as light, simple and easy to execute as possible in v1xxx, and this means it is trying to achieve it's goals in part by not triggering fears or resistance in guys who have those to deal with in response to DMSI.  It will therefore be easier to flow with sexually, because it's not trying to dig out the issues and work you through them, or achieve some grand plan that might be more likely to scare some guys.

Giving up on DMSI isn't how you do it.  You have no idea what DMSI 5 in 6G is going to be able to accomplish until you run it properly.

Sniper feedback / questions for Shannon:

-I get confused about how the sexually attractive aura works, and what kind of results we're supposed to expect, particularly in regards to the sniper. With v1 of DMSI (Aura of Sexual Irresistibility 5.5G), there was no sniper, but I'd see blatant results from people in my vicinity e.g. sex flushes, complaints of heat, blatant IOIs from them. I'd also feel and see the aura on myself: sunburn face, breathing hot, heat in forearms with veins popping. 

Then ever since the sniper was introduced in later versions, I still feel the aura myself sometimes, but I don't see those blatant effects on others. I just get increased stares and milder IOIs. It's like I'm only ever activating the baseline aura and not the snipers. Could you help clarify what we should be feeling and and the effects we should be seeing on others when the sniper kicks in for DMSI?

To contrast, when I run X4A, I feel very clearly when the sniper starts hitting someone. I feel strong vibrations/tingling in my genitals/root, burning sensation in my upper thighs and heat in the face. I also clearly see the effects on the person being sniped in terms of sex flushing, wagging lags, etc. So X4A sniper is obvious when it's kicking in to me... but DMSI's I'm not sure what to look for or what to expect. If it's not arousing them (or is it supposed to be?) then what is it doing when it snipes versus when they're just reacting to your baseline sexy aura? What does it mean to snipe someone with your "sexual attractiveness" if the goal isn't to sexually arouse them? Why would we not want to attract and arouse at the same time if that's possible?

Like I noticed you saw people sex flushing around you with a few seconds listen of this version. I saw that on v1 DMSI (AOSI), I see it on X4A, but for some reason I don't see it with the later versions of DMSI. 

Version 1 was a very un-calibrated attempt at what became DMSI later.  It did not have snipers, but it also did not have any limits on energy usage or any efforts at efficient energy usage or sourcing.  If you will recall, it was exhausting to run and made people eat double what they would normally eat to keep up, and then it was exhausting to run anyway.  Version 1 was burning people out to achieve those results.  It wasn't good, or sustainable.

The sniper isn't going to reduce results.  It's going to create a set of two different possible results (or three, since v5 has the short and medium range sniper).  You'll have Baseline, which is just being affected by the aura.  You'll have the influence of the Short Range Sniper (SRS), and you will have the influence of the Medium Range Sniper (MRS).

The snipers affect those being sniped by focusing the energy of your aura on them and increasing the intensity of the energy to elicit more awareness of the effect, get their attention and make you more obvious to them, as well as increase their attraction according to how they rank on your physical attractiveness scale.

One thing you should know is that women are masters of disguise.  They can be ragingly aroused or extremely attracted, but you might have no idea if she's trying to hide it.  That happens when she's attracted or aroused enough to know it, but not attracted or aroused enough to overcome whatever reasons she has to try to fight that response.  The more attractive she is, the harder she'll be sniped, but also, the more she will tend to try to curb her responses, at least in public. DMSI attempts to get her to do what she needs to do to get you in a position where she has sufficient privacy to act on her attraction as she desires, but you don't necessarily know what her reasons for fighting the influence are.  Maybe she's married, engaged, in a LTR, has a baby, has had bad experiences letting her vajayjay make decisions for her, or maybe she's just not feeling good physically or emotionally that day.  Lots of things to consider.

Attraction as the goal is intended to generate arousal as a secondary function, in response to the attraction.  It's intended to give you a 1-2 punch, instead of "just a right hook" (arousal only).  

Oh, and another thing to consider is that women can smell in-congruence a mile away.  If you are signaling attractive qualities, but in some way you're also signaling unattractive qualities (insecurity, uncertainty, fear, etc., her automatic response will be to conclude that you're either not fully developed or you're not really as attractive as you're trying to portray yourself to be.  That can also significantly reduce, or even kill, responses.

Finally... I think you would see it a lot more on DMSI - you, specifically, and guys like you - if there was no FRM.  The FRM is a "damned if I do and damned if I don't" thing, because if I put it in, it immediately throws guys into fear removal, instead of full execution.  If I don't, then it will immediately force the program to start working on fear removal anyway, but without anywhere near as much finesse, and it will tend to get more results for certain guys depending on what they need - but it won't work for a lot of "hard cases" because they need FRM so much.  

My results are what you would get from full execution.  You have to get through the internal blockages to achieve full execution.  DMSI is trying to do a lot more than X4A is, and it's a much more complex script.  X4A is light specifically to minimize the amount of chance for anything to trigger fears that would slow down or impair results.  DMSI is going for the gold, so to speak.

Thank you so much for taking the time to write this Shannon, it was very illuminating and answered a lot of my questions. Appreciate it.

[ichigo]

So after Shannon's post helped to clarify things, I had to weigh up the options. What's going to help me most, X4A or DMSI?

It seemed to me this was the situation for both:

DMSI: Increases attractive energy but doesn't make me feel arousal. Makes me more social and able to seduce / be seduced, but causes erectile problems. If I was to run this, the goal would be to benefit from DMSIs results while finding some other conscious ways to increase arousal energy.

X4A: Increases arousal energy but doesn't help with socialising. Often makes me feel more aggressive and difficulty making eye contact. Less overt attention from women and no help with seduction. If I was to run this, the goal would be to learn how to be social, attractive and seductive while engulfed in arousal energy.

At first, I landed on X4A, and so I ran loops for one day on the 26th. The sex drive / arousal that had been lacking on DMSI immediately returned to me. I felt I had made the right choice. However, I felt myself losing the increased body awareness and relaxation DMSI gave me. After further thought, I decided to swap back to DMSI on the 27th. So I am currently 3 days back on DMSI after a 0 day break from X4A.

To be clear, I ran X4A on 26th and DMSI on 27th so had just a 24 hour gap in between. Interestingly, I can't say I experienced any turbulence whatsoever. It's like X4A just picked up where DMSI had left off and took it in it's own arousal direction. I found this very impressive. Almost made me consider just alternating the 2, e.g. 3 days X4A, break, 3 days DMSI, break etc. but seeing as the snipers conflict that might cause issues. So I'll be sticking with DMSI according to the hard case instructions.

Which brings me to another potential product idea for Shannon: a 6G sexual arousal subliminal targeted for men only that's as fast acting and powerful as possible? Even better would be if it operated like the shields, so you could run it alongside your current sub for a sexual arousal boost when you need it. Of course it would take some of the focus from your other sub, but like the shields, it's just a trade off you'd have to accept. Not sure if that sounds possible or plausible, Shannon?

Now I'm back on DMSI for 3 days, I'm seeing some interesting results:

-The increased relaxation and body awareness is back. I'm guessing this is FRM. I'm constantly reminding myself to breathe deeply into the diaphragm. I was playing tennis and I was taking very deep breaths before the point and I felt myself go into this ultra focused "zen" mode versus my usual playing with more aggressive energy. This was unusual and I put it down to whatever FRM is up to.

-The aura is getting stronger. As I mentioned before, with X4A I feel the vibrating in my thighs/genital/root. With DMSI I feel it primarily in my forearms and face. Yesterday I was in a coffee shop and could feel all of the above happening at once. And I was getting looks which is normal DMSI, but some looks were crazy. Like just overt, staring in my direction with massive smiles on faces. I've also seen some of the arousal results X4A usually gives me. Women sat near me, some with husbands, I could start to smell their arousal after time and after about 20-30 minutes they want to use the bathroom, and came back looking flushed. Happened twice. So I'm not sure if either:

1.) X4A was still running in my head and causing them to get sniped and aroused
2.) DMSI was working on them and ended up causing arousal as a byproduct of their attraction (they were close enough to be in my passive aura)
3.) Some kind of muddied combo of the two

So anyway, I'll keep going with DMSI. The arousal responses might fall off as X4A fades out even more. I'm trying to consciously remember the energetic feeling of thigh / genital tingling it gives me and combine it with the pulsing forearm vein / burning face of DMSI. I don't know if it's just energetically impossible or something, but if it were possible to combine both arousal AND attractive energy in an aura, it'd seem superior to just arousal or attractive energy alone? Even if the energy of both had to be divided as a result?

But either way, the aura that I know to be DMSI (face/arms) is certainly getting stronger than when I first ran the sub. I'm hoping over time as FRM accomplishes its work and takes less priority, the aura will continue to get stronger. Perhaps then the arousal effects will get stronger too, not just the attraction. Shannon mentioned feeling DMSI in his face but also his chest. I've never felt it there before, perhaps that's a deeper level of projection I'll be able to unlock with time.

I currently live alone and work remotely, so I spend a lot of time on my laptop in coffee shops etc. I'll keep running the program and let the FRM do its thing. Once I feel like the FRM has done its work to a considerable degree and the priority is on the aura, AND I'm able to sustain strong arousal energy alongside the attraction energy, I'll look to get back onto the dating apps and go on some dates. My short term goal is to find some FWBs and long term goal is to settle down with one if I come across one I feel like I'd want to have as part of my life.

Will do my best to keep reporting if its useful.

[treble]

Getting a lot of value from this thread. Thanks for sharing. Seems like you may not need to spend much time with the fear removal stuff and are already executing quite well, too.

The aura is getting stronger. As I mentioned before, with X4A I feel the vibrating in my thighs/genital/root. With DMSI I feel it primarily in my forearms and face. Yesterday I was in a coffee shop and could feel all of the above happening at once. And I was getting looks which is normal DMSI, but some looks were crazy. Like just overt, staring in my direction with massive smiles on faces. I've also seen some of the arousal results X4A usually gives me. Women sat near me, some with husbands, I could start to smell their arousal after time and after about 20-30 minutes they want to use the bathroom, and came back looking flushed. Happened twice.

Bruh.

Forreal? Smell it?? That's wild lol

[Shannon]

A few points.

First, DMSI does not cause erectile difficulty. It is simply not arousing you. If you have some degree of erectile difficulty, DMSI will not help with it; it is not designed for that. But it does not cause erectile difficulty.

Second, the program you describe would already exist if it were possible. I have ideas I am working on for the future.

Third, do not try to mix or alternate DMSI with X4A. You may not get turbulence, but that doesn't mean you're doing yourself any favors. What will result, in the BEST case, is that you start a situation where your "ship" has two captains who both have different goals taking turns running the ship. That will result in a zig zag, which will get you half way between both goals, but fail to get you to either goal in the end.

Regardless of if X4A is still running in your head, after a few days of DMSI, there would be no resources for it to use. They would be going entirely to DMSI. My subliminals are not designed to share resources outside of a shield addition, because sharing resources degrades the results that are possible even when we make resource allocation and use dynamic. Don't try to alternate.

The ladies inside your aura were expressing their arousal in response to DMSI's influence. Smelling it was a sure sign that they were ready to go, right then and there, at least physiologically.

[ichigo]

Getting a lot of value from this thread. Thanks for sharing. Seems like you may not need to spend much time with the fear removal stuff and are already executing quite well, too.

The aura is getting stronger. As I mentioned before, with X4A I feel the vibrating in my thighs/genital/root. With DMSI I feel it primarily in my forearms and face. Yesterday I was in a coffee shop and could feel all of the above happening at once. And I was getting looks which is normal DMSI, but some looks were crazy. Like just overt, staring in my direction with massive smiles on faces. I've also seen some of the arousal results X4A usually gives me. Women sat near me, some with husbands, I could start to smell their arousal after time and after about 20-30 minutes they want to use the bathroom, and came back looking flushed. Happened twice.

Bruh.

Forreal? Smell it?? That's wild lol

Thank you! I think I currently have "partial" execution which is intermittent depending on what the FRM is up to. 

Yeah smell it, and I don't even have a good sense of smell lol. But you know it when you're smelling it. It's not always pussy smell, it's the smell of body odour changes. I notice it on myself when I run X4A, it has stronger changes to my body smell than DMSI. DMSI changes it too but it's more subtle smelling. I guess it's the difference between smelling maximally sexually arousing and maximally sexually attractive.

[ichigo]

A few points.

First, DMSI does not cause erectile difficulty.  It is simply not arousing you.  If you have some degree of erectile difficulty, DMSI will not help with it; it is not designed for that.  But it does not cause erectile difficulty.

Second, the program you describe would already exist if it were possible.  I have ideas I am working on for the future.

Third, do not try to mix or alternate DMSI with X4A.  You may not get turbulence, but that doesn't mean you're doing yourself any favors.  What will result, in the BEST case, is that you start a situation where your "ship" has two captains who both have different goals taking turns running the ship.  That will result in a zig zag, which will get you half way between both goals, but fail to get you to either goal in the end.

Regardless of if X4A is still running in your head, after a few days of DMSI, there would be no resources for it to use.  They would be going entirely to DMSI.  My subliminals are not designed to share resources outside of a shield addition, because sharing resources degrades the results that are possible even when we make resource allocation and use dynamic.  Don't try to alternate.

The ladies inside your aura were expressing their arousal in response to DMSI's influence.  Smelling it was a sure sign that they were ready to go, right then and there, at least physiologically.

Hi Shannon!

Agreed, I don't think DMSI causes increased erectile difficulty, other than just through pure energy expenditure. Being low on energy in general doesn't help with erection quality, and IME DMSI can be very energy consuming in it's giving you an attractive aura. But this can be circumvented by making sure you're eating increased calories, getting enough sleep, etc. It's basically the same as if you ran 5 miles, if you didn't eat an increased amount afterwards or get sufficient rest to compensate you'd likely see some negative impact to your erection quality. Fatigue, basically.

Thank you for all the info! Onwards with DMSI 

[ichigo]

Began last night and getting worse today... some kind of heavy anxiety and sadness kicking in. Tbh just feel like I  want to cry.  I've got that separation anxiety type feeling, similar to when I first broke up with my ex, but not quite that severe. Feeling needy. But it's come out of no where. 

I'm currently by myself but I'd imagine the aura won't be kicking in right now. I've got massive urges to switch back to X4A but obviously FRM is doing something and this is resistance kicking in.

Luckily I can be a bit lazy at work today, I'm hoping this passes by tomorrow. Tough to be productive when you're going through this.

Hopefully there's a rainbow at the end of this. 

On the flip side, I think I noticed some released tension around the lower stomach / psoas area. That's somewhere I'm pretty tight.

[Johannesbrst]

Began last night and getting worse today... some kind of heavy anxiety and sadness kicking in. Tbh just feel like I  want to cry.  I've got that separation anxiety type feeling, similar to when I first broke up with my ex, but not quite that severe. Feeling needy. But it's come out of no where. 

I'm currently by myself but I'd imagine the aura won't be kicking in right now. I've got massive urges to switch back to X4A but obviously FRM is doing something and this is resistance kicking in.

Luckily I can be a bit lazy at work today, I'm hoping this passes by tomorrow. Tough to be productive when you're going through this.

Hopefully there's a rainbow at the end of this. 

On the flip side, I think I noticed some released tension around the lower stomach / psoas area. That's somewhere I'm pretty tight.

Lower abdomen is the location of the sacral chakra. Related to sexuality, creativity and intimacy. Sounds like you’re clearing stuff. This too shall pass!

[ichigo]

The resistance continues! It's pretty smart.

First it started telling me I'm 33 years old and with my ED problems I'll never be able to have multiple sexual partners. It told me at my age having that as a goal is selfish, and I should switch to Aura of Love and focus on finding a loving, meaningful relationship.

Then when I denied that, it started telling me I should be running Overcome ED and why am I wasting my time on DMSI?

The resistance in my gut tells me to swap, but my logic tells me DMSI and FRM are doing something powerful. The awareness and tension in my lower stomach continues to increase leading to uncomfortable sensations. The sadness has mostly passed, but still lingers lightly. Aura isn't firing much right now.

I've become very focused on activating my glutes more. Changed my workout to include more glute exercises, and doing more conscious activation / squeezing of them throughout the day.

I'm also finding it harder to feel excited or motivated to do things. Also feeling more reckless which I think is a combination of the sadness/rage caused by DMSIs inner workings, and the removal of fear to a degree. Eye contact with others is easier. Much more IDGAF going on.

[ichigo]

Currently I'm alternating between feeling bad (FRM) and feeling amazing (execution).

But whenever I get through whatever feels bad, my execution gets better afterwards. It's making me look forward to the struggle moments because I know at the end of it, once it's been worked out, I'll be stronger.

When FRM is mostly active, I'm getting:

-Constant mental notes to consciously check around my lower body - glutes, pelvis, etc. I think I have a lot of tension and lack of mental control in these areas. I think the sub is guiding me toward increasing my mind-muscle connection here to help me release tension. I wish I could just snap my fingers and release the tension, but I guess it's going to take time to be able to access and release it. This might be the contributor to my weak erections... I'm really hoping with time if I can get free-er in this area, I'll see erection quality go up. That would be life changing for me.

I seem to hold so much fear in my body, and I don't know why. I guess I never realised it because it was always my norm so I thought it was normal... but I am a very fear filled person. Nothing happened in my life that I can consciously remember that would cause it, but I've been this way as long as I can remember. I was born very prematurely and spent a long time in the ICU, perhaps that lead to some traumas at a really young age. Who knows. If it did, hopefully that's something FRM can reach and deal with over time.

-Anger. Thoughts about why do I have to think about and push so much effort into being able to perform sexually when most people can just do it no problems. I feel resentment towards people. Then I remember it could be worse, I'm an attractive man, this is pretty much the only "issue" I have. But it just annoys me when I think of the sexual abundance (and abundance in other areas of life e.g. confidence, etc.) if I could just get this issue sorted.

I say erections, but I'm starting to think it's part of a wider issue. I just don't feel comfortable around people. That's why I'm avoidant in life, I've directed my life to put me in a position where I live and work alone, because I seem to have this fear of being around people. It stops me connecting and stops me living life to the full. I find myself running into this annoying catch-22 where:

-I stop working on trying to increase erection quality and instead focus on just being loving, happy. I could find a partner who wouldn't care about that and settle down with them. But I'd feel like I'd failed myself.

-Keep trying to fix this erection issue. At this point I don't even know if it is fixable. The possible things I can narrow it down to being are:

1.) Completely psychological - fear based. I'm not sure on this as my erections aren't full strength even when by myself and same with morning / nocturnal wood
2.) Physical - due to some physical blockages or holding tension. If it's this then hopefully fear removal deals with the tension... otherwise I'm not sure what to do

I take Cialis Daily and a wide range of supplements. My diet and exercise are perfect, I'm extremely fit and healthy. I've ordered a comprehensive blood scan online which will give me my hormone levels, cholesterol levels, etc. which might help me narrow down if there is an issue somewhere.

There's also a test you can do for something called "venous leak". I was offered this when I went to the doctors but turned it down. It's basically a condition where the penis can't hold blood properly to maintain erections. I was told if you have this there's basically no cure, other than having to inject your dick every time you need an erection. I guess fear stopped me doing it, I don't know. If I'm told I have it... what then? I'd rather assume I don't and keep fighting to find a solution. But if my blood test turns up normal and after months of FRMs workings I'm still having the issue, I'll consider getting this test done so I can know once and for all for my peace of mind.

Okay, that's the not fun part. Now for results I'm seeing when execution is happening:

-Dreams of women seducing me. One I remember vividly, a girl came over and said "Hey, my friend thinks you're really hot, would you make out with her?" and I did

-It's boring and doesn't mean much to just say "increased stares", but I don't know what to say other than that. The amount of women staring dramatically went up.

-Sex flushing in my passive aura. I've noticed it enough times now to not be coincidence. And it's definitely DMSI aura, X4A faded out a long long time ago. I can tell as X4A energy feels a bit different, it's more in the thighs/groin and DMSI is way more in the face / arms for me.

I'm not able to respond very well to the attention right now as I'm feeling pretty exhausted, mentally and emotionally. I'm kind of in "cocoon" mode, keeping myself to myself, and consciously focusing on those things the FRM is working on I listed above. I'm struggling with socialisation, even returning eye contact, while I'm in the FRM state. Fingers crossed over time we move into full execution!

Apologies for the unstructured ramble-y nature of this. It was just getting vomited out as I typed.