Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Frosted]

@Shannon Do you think trying to understand my fear will help me? Do you know why what we fear can also be strangely fascinating?

[callie]

Something I have noticed on OF is before I got on the sub I had lot of irritated skin on my face and upper chest. Since the start of OF it has gradually gotten better. Usually I would have flare ups every other day, but now I get like one flare up each week which vanishes the next day.

I wonder if there is a some sort of body healing built into OF or could the skin problems be the result of subconscious tension that has been loosened up by OF?

Also curious if E4 might have the same effect on my skin, since I might hop on that soon?

A lot of skin conditions have as one of their possible causes, an emotional upset.  This is usually fear, but not always.  I've seen a lot of rashes have this as their base, including some cases of eczema.  When you start removing that fear, the symptom (communication from your subconscious) goes away as naturally as the sun rises in the morning.

If I were you, I would not change what you're doing, but especially if it's producing results like that.  You are getting results, but you need to finish what you started.  Otherwise the fear will likely just regenerate.

Yeah, thats what I thought, thanks for explaining.

So the more clarity I get from eliminating subconscious fears the more obvious it is for me that I need to focus on bettering my self esteem, hence E4. Im still unsure its the right move tho, so I guess ill take your advice and stick with OF

[UniversalMan]

Ok, @Shannon I need your advice...
I am listening OFv1. 6 months and 4 days now, schedule is 6 days on 2 days off (have done adjustments in listening schedule at some point), what happens is I am ok on the days on, but as soon the first day off comes I start to feel like crap physically and mentally, and some stupid mortal fears come to surface, and also feeling like I will vomit.

Should I try with no days off for some time?

[Benjamin]

If that's the urge you're getting UniversalMan then try it and see how it goes. There is an autoconfig module that helps guide you to the right amount of listening.

If it gets overwhelming after a while then you might need a night off, by the sound of it more input might be good. Shannon can comment further though.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon & All Happy new year - sorry its late just not been on much.

@Shannon I had a thought, once OF works and clears all fear, are you left with confidence and other positives or do you then need to install those so to speak?

Also once fear is removed in totality, is it better to then use emotional healing to clear any underlying garbage and then maybe LTU and so forth - put another way is there a series of foundational programs you suggest all should use to set up a strong foundation that then allows for greater success in every and all areas one strives for?

hope that made sense, thank you in advance.

PS: Im alternating between my older samsung s7 phone and s10 phone, I think you will agree that the s7 will still play US yes? I just need to hear it to not worry about it lol want to execute this time badly!

thank you

 Awesome sincere question Jake, you go on with you awesome Bold ass self Man. it take courgrage to do these things and ding dang worth it too... bless ya man and more power to ya in 2021....

Im so sorry man I only saw this and was in a rush to reply to Shannon that I forgot to reply back to you. I remembered I didnt and logged on so apologise and thank you for these words! Support here makes all the difference too. appreciate it!

[Jake2015]

@Shannon Ive noticed when playing the US version of OF2 on my s10 sub, there is a clear and definite feeling of tension in my head during the first few mins and then i think I fall asleep or it settles.

When playing using my s7 phone, there is nothing.

Any thoughts?

Well there are two possible reasons for that.  One would be that the volume is not the same for each phone even at the same setting.  The other is that one plays ultrasonic more clearly than the other.  Most likely it is the former.  I would use the phone that demonstrates noticeable reactions.

Thanks Shannon. I think the volume issue you're right as I noticed the volume on s7 is different for music and youtube as that of the s10 - so s10 it is.

[UniversalMan]

If that's the urge you're getting UniversalMan then try it and see how it goes. There is an autoconfig module that helps guide you to the right amount of listening.

If it gets overwhelming after a while then you might need a night off, by the sound of it more input might be good. Shannon can comment further though.

That is what I thought also...more listening

Thank you Benjamin

[Aventus45]

Whatever happened to DMSI 3:3.3? I have been out of the loop for a bit and saw The forum talking about making a new sub.

[4Kingdoms]

Whatever happened to DMSI 3:3.3? I have been out of the loop for a bit and saw The forum talking about making a new sub.

Part 1 - The request
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid241775

Part 2 - The reason why
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid241782

[Aventus45]

Whatever happened to DMSI 3:3.3? I have been out of the loop for a bit and saw The forum talking about making a new sub.

Part 1 - The request
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid241775

Part 2 - The reason why
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Shann...#pid241782

Thanks @4Kingdoms was just wondering about it.

[firsthelix]

hey Shannon,

My apologies if this has recently been asked, but do you have any plans of creating dmsi 3.3.3 soon or any timeline on when you might? Thanks!

I can do one of two things.

1. I can create DMSI v3.3.3 from 3.3.2, upgrading nothing but the skeleton script, adding FRM 4.9 and building it in Platinum Lake build method, which I estimate will take about a week to do and will give me a good idea of what I am working with since the tech has improved so much since v3.3.2 came out.  Basically this would have the advantage of being easy and rapid to build, and would tell me a lot more about what I need to do to get those affected to respond before building v3.4.

2. I can try to upgrade everything and figure out the outward facing FRM, which is taking a very long time, and which is not getting far because I'm so busy working to build so many other things while I try to figure out the outward facing FRM.  I don't know how long it will take me unless I focus on it completely, and with LTUv6, UMS v2, etc. to build also I'm not sure that's a good idea.  

Increasingly, I think option #1 is the better choice.  It would get something out there as an upgrade, it would be a significant upgrade because the skeleton script has been improved so much, it would have FRM 4.9 in it, and it would be built using Platinum Lake.  Basically, a major upgrade even if I do nothing to the Key scripts and the dedicated scripts.  This would also show me specifically what the upgrades have accomplished and what I need the EFRM to accomplish, and get something out to you guys who have been waiting for so long.  It would put me in a much better position, IMO, to build v3.4.  It would also use up one of the last two free upgrades.

You guys will have to vote on which path you would like me to take.

Hey Shannon,

This post of yours has been made more than a week ago - may I ask where we're at at this point. The members that reacted to your suggestion mostly favored option #2 if I am correct. Can we decide on this now so there is a clearer path for you to plan your work and more clarity for us to know what to expect and by when. Also, there needs to be a decision about the money page. 

Thanks,
firsthelix

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon can you make a quick fire focus visualization sub to make the user clearly visualize (see, feel, smell, touch, hear) what they want and actually materialise it?  

I think whoever wouldn't be interested in such a sub is just looking for fish and missing a lot.

I first have to state that I'm not sure that such a goal would be simple enough to do as a focus fire.  Then I would point out that while it is a worthy goal, I am dealing with some things recently that are making it very difficult, next to impossible, to be productive at all.  Until that passes - and I expect that at minimum it will be in play to an almost impossible to bypass degree until about the 20th, and then merely "extremely challenging" for the rest of the month - I will not be able to make anything that requires any predictive modeling.  They are just giving me static during this influence.  Like they always have, during this influence.

So it's worth considering.  maybe put it in the suggestions thread.

[Shannon]

I'm at a loss for the sleep subs since there are a lot of them. I've been having trouble resetting my sleep schedule. I sleep at 7-9am in the morning and wake up at  4-6pm in the evening. This has been going on for more than 8 months. I want to be able to sleep at least in the 12am midnight but whenever I try I just can't sleep. Also I tried just waking up for the whole day and even if I did I still can't sleep at night. Any subs good for improving my sleep schedule and overall sleep. I want to be able to sleep immediately and wake up early. I'm fit, working out, eating healthy 90% of the time so I don't think health is the problem.

I came from the EPHRA 5g free version sub  for 6 months straight.

That sleep cycle is something I have experienced as being a subconscious attempt to escape from having to face some fear by sleeping when the need to face it is awake.  For me it was dealing with social anxiety.    That's been the case for almost everyone I have ever heard complain of something like that.

If it is based in fear and is an avoidant behavior, OF would be your choice.

I don't understand how OF can help me sleep.  For the record sometimes I haven't had sleep for 24 hours yet still can't sleep. It's 7am here and haven't had sleep fopr more than 24 hours yet still can't sleep. I usually fell asleep around 11pm now. What can I do?

If you are subconsciously avoiding something you fearby forcing a sleep cycle that makes you sleep while it is in a position to be dealt with, or experienced, then killing the fear will remove the efforts to keep you asleep all day.  

I have found that even without that issue, OF v1 and 2 both help me sleep.

There are many possible reasons why you might be having sleep issues.  That is my best guess as to what is behind yours, as described, but there could still be something else.  If it is fear based, then OF will help.

[Shannon]

hey Shannon,

My apologies if this has recently been asked, but do you have any plans of creating dmsi 3.3.3 soon or any timeline on when you might? Thanks!

I can do one of two things.

1. I can create DMSI v3.3.3 from 3.3.2, upgrading nothing but the skeleton script, adding FRM 4.9 and building it in Platinum Lake build method, which I estimate will take about a week to do and will give me a good idea of what I am working with since the tech has improved so much since v3.3.2 came out.  Basically this would have the advantage of being easy and rapid to build, and would tell me a lot more about what I need to do to get those affected to respond before building v3.4.

2. I can try to upgrade everything and figure out the outward facing FRM, which is taking a very long time, and which is not getting far because I'm so busy working to build so many other things while I try to figure out the outward facing FRM.  I don't know how long it will take me unless I focus on it completely, and with LTUv6, UMS v2, etc. to build also I'm not sure that's a good idea.  

Increasingly, I think option #1 is the better choice.  It would get something out there as an upgrade, it would be a significant upgrade because the skeleton script has been improved so much, it would have FRM 4.9 in it, and it would be built using Platinum Lake.  Basically, a major upgrade even if I do nothing to the Key scripts and the dedicated scripts.  This would also show me specifically what the upgrades have accomplished and what I need the EFRM to accomplish, and get something out to you guys who have been waiting for so long.  It would put me in a much better position, IMO, to build v3.4.  It would also use up one of the last two free upgrades.

You guys will have to vote on which path you would like me to take.

Hey Shannon,

This post of yours has been made more than a week ago - may I ask where we're at at this point. The members that reacted to your suggestion mostly favored option #2 if I am correct. Can we decide on this now so there is a clearer path for you to plan your work and more clarity for us to know what to expect and by when. Also, there needs to be a decision about the money page. 

Thanks,
firsthelix

I spent some time before the models went all wonky running through the models what the right way forward is.  It is option #2.  I need the outward facing FRM.  So I'm working on it as possible, but we are at a maximum disruption point right now.  Models down, cluster headaches, and generally having a hard time being functional, never mind achieving much of anything.  For the time being, I am working on LTUv6 Stage 7 as a result, since all that needs is to have the finished script built.