Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote from his journal :
"I am doing OF and Overcoming Dependence On Drugs 5.75G at the same time. Looking good"

Me: Yes, groovy groovy groovy!! That means you're that much closer to UMS2 and LTU6..... Ha! the more you knock out,the closer your are to the other PRIORITIES!! Ha!!No matter who long it takes,of course hopefully sooner than later but, progress in the making,Yes. Again the more you knock out da closer UMS2 becomes!! good weekend news!!! Keith.

[Shannon]

Shannon's quote from his journal :
"I am doing OF and Overcoming Dependence On Drugs 5.75G at the same time. Looking good"

Me: Yes, groovy groovy groovy!! That means you're that much closer to UMS2 and LTU6.....  Ha! the more you knock out,the closer your are to the other PRIORITIES!! Ha!!No matter who long it takes,of course hopefully sooner than later but, progress in the making,Yes. Again the more you knock out da closer UMS2 becomes!! good weekend news!!! Keith.

OF is going to be interesting, for sure.  I'm hoping the program for helping people break dependency on drugs will help people who have become addicted to prescription and/or recreational drugs.  Both of which should be a major positive impact.  

I noticed that for the last few days, I was fighting some part of myself that did NOT want me to work.  At first I didn't realize why.  Then I realized, it doesn't want OF built.  And THAT means it is afraid of the resulting changes that will take place when I use it... which can only mean it's going to be effective to a significant degree for overcoming fears!

Once I realized that, I bulldozed it and started working on OF immediately.  Bulldog that fear!

And since OF is aimed at overcoming ALL fears, yes, I will be putting appropriate safeties in OF.  For example, it will be age limited to 18+. There will be other safeties as well, but I'll keep those as trade secrets.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote from his journal :
"I am doing OF and Overcoming Dependence On Drugs 5.75G at the same time. Looking good"

Me: Yes, groovy groovy groovy!! That means you're that much closer to UMS2 and LTU6.....  Ha! the more you knock out,the closer your are to the other PRIORITIES!! Ha!!No matter who long it takes,of course hopefully sooner than later but, progress in the making,Yes. Again the more you knock out da closer UMS2 becomes!! good weekend news!!! Keith.

OF is going to be interesting, for sure.  I'm hoping the program for helping people break dependency on drugs will help people who have become addicted to prescription and/or recreational drugs.  Both of which should be a major positive impact.  

I noticed that for the last few days, I was fighting some part of myself that did NOT want me to work.  At first I didn't realize why.  Then I realized, it doesn't want OF built.  And THAT means it is afraid of the resulting changes that will take place when I use it... which can only mean it's going to be effective to a significant degree for overcoming fears!

Once I realized that, I bulldozed it and started working on OF immediately.  Bulldog that fear!

And since OF is aimed at overcoming ALL fears, yes, I will be putting appropriate safeties in OF.  For example, it will be age limited to 18+. There will be other safeties as well, but I'll keep those as trade secrets.

 Sooo another 2 or 3 weeks on both of those,programs,Shannon?

[Shannon]

Shannon's quote from his journal :
"I am doing OF and Overcoming Dependence On Drugs 5.75G at the same time. Looking good"

Me: Yes, groovy groovy groovy!! That means you're that much closer to UMS2 and LTU6.....  Ha! the more you knock out,the closer your are to the other PRIORITIES!! Ha!!No matter who long it takes,of course hopefully sooner than later but, progress in the making,Yes. Again the more you knock out da closer UMS2 becomes!! good weekend news!!! Keith.

OF is going to be interesting, for sure.  I'm hoping the program for helping people break dependency on drugs will help people who have become addicted to prescription and/or recreational drugs.  Both of which should be a major positive impact.  

I noticed that for the last few days, I was fighting some part of myself that did NOT want me to work.  At first I didn't realize why.  Then I realized, it doesn't want OF built.  And THAT means it is afraid of the resulting changes that will take place when I use it... which can only mean it's going to be effective to a significant degree for overcoming fears!

Once I realized that, I bulldozed it and started working on OF immediately.  Bulldog that fear!

And since OF is aimed at overcoming ALL fears, yes, I will be putting appropriate safeties in OF.  For example, it will be age limited to 18+. There will be other safeties as well, but I'll keep those as trade secrets.

 Sooo another 2 or 3 weeks on both of those,programs,Shannon?

Don't know yet.  Could be sooner, also.

[AriGold]

Shannon, I have a few general questions regarding your subliminals.
You pointed out that some subliminals are not suited for pregnant women, like LTU4, LTU5 and Universal Detox. Are there also other subliminals that are better not being used if pregnant women could be exposed to it (DMSI comes to my mind)?
Are all other subliminals ok to use around normal women? A few years back you said that AM5 and AM6 are safe to be used around women, is that still the case with your current knowledge?
Which subliminals are ok to be used around children?

I would recommend to use a kind of a sticker or logo to easily show that this program is allowed to be used around X.

To clarify, the subliminals I suggest that pregnant women not use are subliminals which will have a significant effect on the body of the woman, or on her emotional state, which may or may not have negative effects on an unborn child as a result.  This is probably being overly cautious in most cases.  But along those lines, DMSI is probably a good one to avoid for pregnant women.

AM is designed to be usable around women, and while it should not affect them, it will still have to be processed for the script to prevent it from working on them.  The limiters are still not perfect, although they're pretty good at this point, and they seem to work well for AM and things like Breast Enlargement.

Generally, the subliminals that should not be used around children are those that specify in the instructions that you should not expose children to them, or are limited to prevent them from affecting children.  Sexual things, obviously, and things that may alter the mental, emotional or physical development of the child in an unhealthy, undesirable or unknown way.

So AM6 is allowed to use around women, also pregnant women and around children, because of the age limiter?

[AriGold]

Shannon's quote from his journal :
"I am doing OF and Overcoming Dependence On Drugs 5.75G at the same time. Looking good"

Me: Yes, groovy groovy groovy!! That means you're that much closer to UMS2 and LTU6.....  Ha! the more you knock out,the closer your are to the other PRIORITIES!! Ha!!No matter who long it takes,of course hopefully sooner than later but, progress in the making,Yes. Again the more you knock out da closer UMS2 becomes!! good weekend news!!! Keith.

OF is going to be interesting, for sure.  I'm hoping the program for helping people break dependency on drugs will help people who have become addicted to prescription and/or recreational drugs.  Both of which should be a major positive impact.  

I noticed that for the last few days, I was fighting some part of myself that did NOT want me to work.  At first I didn't realize why.  Then I realized, it doesn't want OF built.  And THAT means it is afraid of the resulting changes that will take place when I use it... which can only mean it's going to be effective to a significant degree for overcoming fears!

Once I realized that, I bulldozed it and started working on OF immediately.  Bulldog that fear!

And since OF is aimed at overcoming ALL fears, yes, I will be putting appropriate safeties in OF.  For example, it will be age limited to 18+. There will be other safeties as well, but I'll keep those as trade secrets.

A few years back OGSF was understood as being more universal and helpful than just OF. Do you also plan a version that overcomes guilt and shame or is it kind of included, because it is not the guilt or the shame that holds us back but the FEAR of feeling guilty or ashamed?

[Shawn]

So AM6 is allowed to use around women, also pregnant women and around children, because of the age limiter?

It's not the age limiter in AM6 (even if I think it's also inside), there are limiters to make it work on heterosexual males only.

[Zubrowka]

I recently read an interesting article about leadership you maybe find useful Shannon - it's title "To lead, first lead yourself", seems pretty relevant to your philosophy of leadership.

Five capabilities are at the heart of centered leadership: finding meaning in work, converting emotions such as fear or stress into opportunity, leveraging connections and community, acting in the face of risk, and sustaining the energy that is the life force of change. A recent McKinsey global survey of executives shows that leaders who have mastered even one of these skills are twice as likely as those who have mastered none to feel that they can lead through change; masters of all five are more than four times as likely.2 Strikingly, leaders who have mastered all five capabilities are also more than 20 times as likely to say they are satisfied with their performance as leaders and their lives in general (for more on the research, see “The value of centered leadership: McKinsey Global Survey results”).

The article:
https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insigh...876cdab24b#

[Shannon]

Shannon's quote from his journal :
"I am doing OF and Overcoming Dependence On Drugs 5.75G at the same time. Looking good"

Me: Yes, groovy groovy groovy!! That means you're that much closer to UMS2 and LTU6.....  Ha! the more you knock out,the closer your are to the other PRIORITIES!! Ha!!No matter who long it takes,of course hopefully sooner than later but, progress in the making,Yes. Again the more you knock out da closer UMS2 becomes!! good weekend news!!! Keith.

OF is going to be interesting, for sure.  I'm hoping the program for helping people break dependency on drugs will help people who have become addicted to prescription and/or recreational drugs.  Both of which should be a major positive impact.  

I noticed that for the last few days, I was fighting some part of myself that did NOT want me to work.  At first I didn't realize why.  Then I realized, it doesn't want OF built.  And THAT means it is afraid of the resulting changes that will take place when I use it... which can only mean it's going to be effective to a significant degree for overcoming fears!

Once I realized that, I bulldozed it and started working on OF immediately.  Bulldog that fear!

And since OF is aimed at overcoming ALL fears, yes, I will be putting appropriate safeties in OF.  For example, it will be age limited to 18+. There will be other safeties as well, but I'll keep those as trade secrets.

A few years back OGSF was understood as being more universal and helpful than just OF. Do you also plan a version that overcomes guilt and shame or is it kind of included, because it is not the guilt or the shame that holds us back but the FEAR of feeling guilty or ashamed?

I do have plans for OGSF in 5.75G, but that has to wait, as it may require a significant adjustment to the FRM.  In many cases the three are intertwined, but targeting fear is going to affect all of them, as long as it is done successfully.  Aside from releasing OF first because it would not require a significant rewrite of the FRM, which could take a month or more, I am also looking to see how effective it is at dealing with guilt and shame.  This will show me how much fear, guilt and shame are intertwined, and whether guilt and shame arise from fear or if they are their own entities that cooperate with and enhance fear and each other.

[Shannon]

So AM6 is allowed to use around women, also pregnant women and around children, because of the age limiter?

It's not the age limiter in AM6 (even if I think it's also inside), there are limiters to make it work on heterosexual males only.

AM6 has an age limiter, a gender limiter and a sexual orientation limiter.  It has these because:

1. It is not appropriate for people under 18, as they are still developing in important ways that should not be influenced by this program.
2. It should only affect males, because it is designed for males, and would not be helpful for females.
3. It is designed specifically for heterosexual males, and gay or bisexual males would not necessarily appreciate some of the effects.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's Quote" Came up with a new way to build the scripts. This will be going into OF. Models love this. I think you're really going to like the impact it has."


Me: Aweehhhh Shit!! thats gonna be something else. A "New way" to build scripts? huh! Shucks! when you say "I think you;re really gonna like the impact it has!" we already know this muther's gonna be packin a punch 'er three!! at least. Inspiring , Shannon,inspiring!!!

[Hanpan]

Hey Shannon

Great to hear that the new subs are coming along well.

As mentioned in an earlier post, I decided to use ARA for a few weeks in order to settle in to a new job. ARA together with Tranq A and B have been beautiful so far and everything has worked out extremely well, despite of a very busy start and a lot of logistic difficulties due to Corona. Within a week or two, I expect that I’m ready to drop ARA and move on to something else.

I’ve always thought that I would do the new LTU when it came out. However, my life is going amazingly well, and this lockdown has given me the desire to spend some time meeting girls when the clubs open in August (at least where I live). I prefer to do the approaching myself in order to make sure that I actually find girls who not only look great but that I also want to spend some time with, even if it is not about a serious relationship.

I believe that I’m a great guy for girls to meet, and I’ve had many amazing experiences with girls in the past. However, I do still feel what PUAs would call “approach anxiety” when talking to strangers.

Based on that, what do you think would be the best sub for going out and meeting good looking quality women for the next months? I see three options: 1) The new DMSI might be the obvious choice, but I’m a bit confused about the effects when you do the approaching – I assume that the aura, the shield and FRM will still work in this scenario? 2) another option would be the new OF – I believe (and have referencing showing) that I have a decent charisma and that many girls like me when I can just chill and be relaxed. Hence, if OF could get rid of the above-mentioned “approach anxiety” and just let me be more relaxed in conversations in general, that could make sense as well. Option 3) would be the new LTU, if it contains OF as well (based on the same assumptions as nr. 2).

Would love to hear your take on this.

Thanks a lot in advance.

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon

Great to hear that the new subs are coming along well.

As mentioned in an earlier post, I decided to use ARA for a few weeks in order to settle in to a new job. ARA together with Tranq A and B have been beautiful so far and everything has worked out extremely well, despite of a very busy start and a lot of logistic difficulties due to Corona. Within a week or two, I expect that I’m ready to drop ARA and move on to something else.

I’ve always thought that I would do the new LTU when it came out. However, my life is going amazingly well, and this lockdown has given me the desire to spend some time meeting girls when the clubs open in August (at least where I live). I prefer to do the approaching myself in order to make sure that I actually find girls who not only look great but that I also want to spend some time with, even if it is not about a serious relationship.

I believe that I’m a great guy for girls to meet, and I’ve had many amazing experiences with girls in the past. However, I do still feel what PUAs would call “approach anxiety” when talking to strangers.

Based on that, what do you think would be the best sub for going out and meeting good looking quality women for the next months? I see three options: 1) The new DMSI might be the obvious choice, but I’m a bit confused about the effects when you do the approaching – I assume that the aura, the shield and FRM will still work in this scenario?  2) another option would be the new OF – I believe (and have referencing showing) that I have a decent charisma and that many girls like me when I can just chill and be relaxed. Hence, if OF could get rid of the above-mentioned “approach anxiety” and just let me be more relaxed in conversations in general, that could make sense as well. Option 3) would be the new LTU, if it contains OF as well (based on the same assumptions as nr. 2).

Would love to hear your take on this.

Thanks a lot in advance.

All of them have their place, but their place depends on the specifics of why you are experiencing this anxiety.  

If you're looking for sex, then DMSI is your best bet unless you know how to transition from sex to romance.  

If you're looking for a relationship, then you have to consider a couple things.  What of these programs is going to result in the best chance of you achieving a relationship with the kind of woman you want?

OF is going to help you get past your fears, but aside from that growth, you will not change from what you are when you start looking, after using it.  It may indeed be very helpful, but it won't "take you to the next level" in general.  It should result in freedom from fear.

LTU6 is going to be a different story.  It isn't focused on fear specifically, and it will take longer to run; 6 months for the next version.  But it will result in broad spectrum growth and improvement within you, and this will in turn result in being much higher social market value and much more valuable to women for a relationship.  You will also be able to attract the interest of higher value women as a result.

What I would probably do in your shoes is start using OF until LTU6 comes out, and get a head start on a focused effort to deal with and free yourself from your fears.  Then, when LTU6 comes out, use that.  It will take you further in the direction you want to go because OF will help clear the path for LTU6 and in the end you'll get more value and growth from LTU6 and achieve the highest levels of self improvement, and thus the highest levels of value increase to women.  It's a slower and less fun path, but the end result will be the best for being able to attract the highest value women, and achieve a serious relationship with them.

[Hanpan]

Hey Shannon

Great to hear that the new subs are coming along well.

As mentioned in an earlier post, I decided to use ARA for a few weeks in order to settle in to a new job. ARA together with Tranq A and B have been beautiful so far and everything has worked out extremely well, despite of a very busy start and a lot of logistic difficulties due to Corona. Within a week or two, I expect that I’m ready to drop ARA and move on to something else.

I’ve always thought that I would do the new LTU when it came out. However, my life is going amazingly well, and this lockdown has given me the desire to spend some time meeting girls when the clubs open in August (at least where I live). I prefer to do the approaching myself in order to make sure that I actually find girls who not only look great but that I also want to spend some time with, even if it is not about a serious relationship.

I believe that I’m a great guy for girls to meet, and I’ve had many amazing experiences with girls in the past. However, I do still feel what PUAs would call “approach anxiety” when talking to strangers.

Based on that, what do you think would be the best sub for going out and meeting good looking quality women for the next months? I see three options: 1) The new DMSI might be the obvious choice, but I’m a bit confused about the effects when you do the approaching – I assume that the aura, the shield and FRM will still work in this scenario?  2) another option would be the new OF – I believe (and have referencing showing) that I have a decent charisma and that many girls like me when I can just chill and be relaxed. Hence, if OF could get rid of the above-mentioned “approach anxiety” and just let me be more relaxed in conversations in general, that could make sense as well. Option 3) would be the new LTU, if it contains OF as well (based on the same assumptions as nr. 2).

Would love to hear your take on this.

Thanks a lot in advance.

All of them have their place, but their place depends on the specifics of why you are experiencing this anxiety.  

If you're looking for sex, then DMSI is your best bet unless you know how to transition from sex to romance.  

If you're looking for a relationship, then you have to consider a couple things.  What of these programs is going to result in the best chance of you achieving a relationship with the kind of woman you want?

OF is going to help you get past your fears, but aside from that growth, you will not change from what you are when you start looking, after using it.  It may indeed be very helpful, but it won't "take you to the next level" in general.  It should result in freedom from fear.

LTU6 is going to be a different story.  It isn't focused on fear specifically, and it will take longer to run; 6 months for the next version.  But it will result in broad spectrum growth and improvement within you, and this will in turn result in being much higher social market value and much more valuable to women for a relationship.  You will also be able to attract the interest of higher value women as a result.

What I would probably do in your shoes is start using OF until LTU6 comes out, and get a head start on a focused effort to deal with and free yourself from your fears.  Then, when LTU6 comes out, use that.  It will take you further in the direction you want to go because OF will help clear the path for LTU6 and in the end you'll get more value and growth from LTU6 and achieve the highest levels of self improvement, and thus the highest levels of value increase to women.  It's a slower and less fun path, but the end result will be the best for being able to attract the highest value women, and achieve a serious relationship with them.

Thank you very much for your great answer – I had a lot of the same thoughts. I might have tried to be a little bit too politically correct in my initial post. What I'm looking for is definitely sex short term. A real relationship is probably 2 - 4 years down the line (depending on a ton of things). I just prefer to hook up with girls that I'm ok with taking to brunch the next day and seeing a few times a month. 
 
Could it be useful to use DMSI for a few months “to get the ball rolling” after corona and then move on to LTU, or will all the time used on DMSI be useless the second I stop using it?