Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

  Things have been challenging recently to the point that for the first time in the history of the company, it doesn't seem to matter what I release, there's not much interest.  So time to pull out the big guns. 

Time for the Affiliate program implementation! I would totally sell the shit out of your subs, make us both a fortune 

I have suggested this long time ago, because I am not sure if Shannon or his team use advance marketing strategies where you target open minded people who would actually buy subs via different social media platforms like Instagram and Facebook. And if you guys are not doing this then you definitely missing on the gold mine.

And its not hard to implement, you really have nothing to lose Shannon. It's a digital product so whatever the %. You will be getting more customers either way

I sent a private message to Ben like two weeks ago. I suppose he told you. I think expanding IML to the Spanish world would be really  lucrative. Would be good to cooperate with it.

That did not get through, and probably because I have answered this sort of thing at length previously on two or three occasions.  It boils down to this.  Translating subliminal scripts is difficult at best, and to do it properly at the level of complexity I work with would require that I either teach a group of translators what I know about scripting (never going to happen) or I become fluent in one dialect of Spanish that everyone can agree on (never going to happen because I don't have the time, and because there is no such dialect).

Even if I were to become fluent in the best dialect for South American Spanish, for example, it wouldn't work for people who use Castillian Spanish, and vice versa.  So I would need to be fluent in two different versions of Spanish at least.  

On top of that, just being fluent and knowing how I do this isn't enough to arrive at an accurate and useful translation.  It takes me a day to figure out how to word 2 statements because each word choice must be verified by the models.  I literally have to "grow" these scripts from simple statements to do that.  This is necessary because of the specifics of how the subconscious parts understand language different than the conscious parts, and that changes from language to language and from culture to culture.  

So even if I was to suddenly become 100% fluent in, say, Argentinian Spanish (that seems to have been the one dialect everyone would accept, IIRC) I still couldn't just translate my scripts because the language and cultures are different.  I would have to take the root concept for each statement and re-grow it, which would of course take a lot of time.  Probably 6 months of work just to translate the skeleton script.  

On top of that, the skeleton script isn't finished yet.  So every time I make a change, I would have to make and keep track of the equivalent change for the Spanish version, and I would have to do that for all language variants.

Communicating to the subconscious is NOT the same as just conversing normally.  The subconscious understands spoken language VERY differently than the conscious mind, and that's why I have been working since 1991 and am still not finished developing all this stuff.

It's not feasible to translate these to Spanish and hope to achieve anything like what I have developed in English.  At best, we would have to use 2G, 3G, maybe 4G techniques, and that would still require a team of at least three translators who were absolutely fluent in both languages.  That gets very expensive very quickly.

And once again, why I choose the wording is based on a deep understanding of psychology, where the models do not make the choice (as they did not make the choice for 1-2-3-4G).  I can't teach some of that, and some of it is trade secret, had won after decades of experimentation and research.

Unfortunate, but true.  Otherwise, I would have subliminals in Spanish, French, German, Russian, Italian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Icelandic, Farsi, French Creole, etc. etc.

[Shannon]

Hi @Benjamin , I sent this through the contact form on the website but just putting it here in case you see it faster:

"Hi Ben,

This is ichigo from the forums. I just placed an order for GPRP 18 for my mum who has really bad headaches, but reading the product description I have just realised that it's more specialised for nerve pain and for headaches I should have ordered GPRP 14c instead, is that right?

As you haven't linked the files yet and so I haven't downloaded them, could you please link me to GPRP 14c instead as it is the same price, or refund me for the order and then I will order GPRP 14c instead?

Thank you! "

Neither is more specialized for nerve pain.  They are all progressions on the same path.  They all aim to be effective for all types of pain, and 14c is a very old program at this point (2 gens out of date = 2+ years old).

[ichigo]

Hi @Benjamin , I sent this through the contact form on the website but just putting it here in case you see it faster:

"Hi Ben,

This is ichigo from the forums. I just placed an order for GPRP 18 for my mum who has really bad headaches, but reading the product description I have just realised that it's more specialised for nerve pain and for headaches I should have ordered GPRP 14c instead, is that right?

As you haven't linked the files yet and so I haven't downloaded them, could you please link me to GPRP 14c instead as it is the same price, or refund me for the order and then I will order GPRP 14c instead?

Thank you! "

Neither is more specialized for nerve pain.  They are all progressions on the same path.  They all aim to be effective for all types of pain, and 14c is a very old program at this point (2 gens out of date = 2+ years old).

Ah okay, no worries then, I will stick with GPRP 18.

[ianmarconi]

  Things have been challenging recently to the point that for the first time in the history of the company, it doesn't seem to matter what I release, there's not much interest.  So time to pull out the big guns. 

Time for the Affiliate program implementation! I would totally sell the shit out of your subs, make us both a fortune 

I have suggested this long time ago, because I am not sure if Shannon or his team use advance marketing strategies where you target open minded people who would actually buy subs via different social media platforms like Instagram and Facebook. And if you guys are not doing this then you definitely missing on the gold mine.

And its not hard to implement, you really have nothing to lose Shannon. It's a digital product so whatever the %. You will be getting more customers either way

We tried an affiliate program.  The scammers burned us so badly that I'm about 99% sure that will never happen.  Taxes, logistics and making sure your affiliates don't pull scams on you and/or your customers to make a buck is almost impossible in this case.  We have discussed this multiple times on the back end.  The only way it would happen is if Andrew and I personally agreed to have the person be an affiliate, and their marketing was personally approved by us.  But even then, there are gargantuan hurdles in the way that have nothing to do with affiliate marketing.  And those are out of my hands.

Those same hurdles are why we don't advertise on Facebook or Instagram right now.  Working on them - but for the time being... out of my hands.

That's a shame 

[Shannon]

  Things have been challenging recently to the point that for the first time in the history of the company, it doesn't seem to matter what I release, there's not much interest.  So time to pull out the big guns. 

Time for the Affiliate program implementation! I would totally sell the shit out of your subs, make us both a fortune 

I have suggested this long time ago, because I am not sure if Shannon or his team use advance marketing strategies where you target open minded people who would actually buy subs via different social media platforms like Instagram and Facebook. And if you guys are not doing this then you definitely missing on the gold mine.

And its not hard to implement, you really have nothing to lose Shannon. It's a digital product so whatever the %. You will be getting more customers either way

We tried an affiliate program.  The scammers burned us so badly that I'm about 99% sure that will never happen.  Taxes, logistics and making sure your affiliates don't pull scams on you and/or your customers to make a buck is almost impossible in this case.  We have discussed this multiple times on the back end.  The only way it would happen is if Andrew and I personally agreed to have the person be an affiliate, and their marketing was personally approved by us.  But even then, there are gargantuan hurdles in the way that have nothing to do with affiliate marketing.  And those are out of my hands.

Those same hurdles are why we don't advertise on Facebook or Instagram right now.  Working on them - but for the time being... out of my hands.

That's a shame 

You have no idea how much more money we could have/would have made over the years if not for the scammers and taxes associated with affiliate marketing.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon's quote: "2 minutes ago
I have only one more statement to build to be finished with FRM 4.9. Should be finished with it later today. Whew. Sure has taken enough time to upgrade 4.8!
Subliminal Audio Specialist & Administrator

The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!"

Me:
Wow ,what a break thru this truly is Dr.Frankenstien!! its alive its alive!!! a Mickey Mantel Knock outta da park and then some. wow!! Congratulations Shannon!! "Fore He's a Jolly Good fellow,fore He'sa jolly good fellow " ect...!! ha!!

[LionKing]

Are we expecting an EPRHA upgrade with the new FRM (E4)? I saw that mentioned somewhere. Or could one just the first stage of LTU6 for an extended period?

[Shannon]

Shannon's quote: "2 minutes ago
I have only one more statement to build to be finished with FRM 4.9. Should be finished with it later today. Whew. Sure has taken enough time to upgrade 4.8!
Subliminal Audio Specialist & Administrator

The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!"

Me:
Wow ,what a break thru this truly is Dr.Frankenstien!! its alive its alive!!! a Mickey Mantel  Knock outta da park and then some. wow!! Congratulations Shannon!!  "Fore He's a Jolly Good fellow,fore He'sa jolly good fellow " ect...!! ha!!

Thank you. 

[Shannon]

Are we expecting an EPRHA upgrade with the new FRM (E4)? I saw that mentioned somewhere. Or could one just the first stage of LTU6 for an extended period?

I will have to determine what the best path forward is by using the models to show me what produces the greatest possible success.  We don't know just yet.

[Yous]

  Things have been challenging recently to the point that for the first time in the history of the company, it doesn't seem to matter what I release, there's not much interest.  So time to pull out the big guns. 

Time for the Affiliate program implementation! I would totally sell the shit out of your subs, make us both a fortune 

I have suggested this long time ago, because I am not sure if Shannon or his team use advance marketing strategies where you target open minded people who would actually buy subs via different social media platforms like Instagram and Facebook. And if you guys are not doing this then you definitely missing on the gold mine.

And its not hard to implement, you really have nothing to lose Shannon. It's a digital product so whatever the %. You will be getting more customers either way

I sent a private message to Ben like two weeks ago. I suppose he told you. I think expanding IML to the Spanish world would be really  lucrative. Would be good to cooperate with it.

That did not get through, and probably because I have answered this sort of thing at length previously on two or three occasions.  It boils down to this.  Translating subliminal scripts is difficult at best, and to do it properly at the level of complexity I work with would require that I either teach a group of translators what I know about scripting (never going to happen) or I become fluent in one dialect of Spanish that everyone can agree on (never going to happen because I don't have the time, and because there is no such dialect).

Even if I were to become fluent in the best dialect for South American Spanish, for example, it wouldn't work for people who use Castillian Spanish, and vice versa.  So I would need to be fluent in two different versions of Spanish at least.  

On top of that, just being fluent and knowing how I do this isn't enough to arrive at an accurate and useful translation.  It takes me a day to figure out how to word 2 statements because each word choice must be verified by the models.  I literally have to "grow" these scripts from simple statements to do that.  This is necessary because of the specifics of how the subconscious parts understand language different than the conscious parts, and that changes from language to language and from culture to culture.  

So even if I was to suddenly become 100% fluent in, say, Argentinian Spanish (that seems to have been the one dialect everyone would accept, IIRC) I still couldn't just translate my scripts because the language and cultures are different.  I would have to take the root concept for each statement and re-grow it, which would of course take a lot of time.  Probably 6 months of work just to translate the skeleton script.  

On top of that, the skeleton script isn't finished yet.  So every time I make a change, I would have to make and keep track of the equivalent change for the Spanish version, and I would have to do that for all language variants.

Communicating to the subconscious is NOT the same as just conversing normally.  The subconscious understands spoken language VERY differently than the conscious mind, and that's why I have been working since 1991 and am still not finished developing all this stuff.

It's not feasible to translate these to Spanish and hope to achieve anything like what I have developed in English.  At best, we would have to use 2G, 3G, maybe 4G techniques, and that would still require a team of at least three translators who were absolutely fluent in both languages.  That gets very expensive very quickly.

And once again, why I choose the wording is based on a deep understanding of psychology, where the models do not make the choice (as they did not make the choice for 1-2-3-4G).  I can't teach some of that, and some of it is trade secret, had won after decades of experimentation and research.

Unfortunate, but true.  Otherwise, I would have subliminals in Spanish, French, German, Russian, Italian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Icelandic, Farsi, French Creole, etc. etc.

The people from south America and Spain dont any problem in understanding each other, there are only a few different words. I know people from Venezuela, Cuba, panama, Peru, Argentina, etc...There are many authors from south america of subliminals that work really well for Spanish and the same in the opposite way. 

If the regular person that knows some English hears a subliminal in english and it works because the subconscious is powerful, a normal traduction to Spanish will work as well.

Chinese and Spanish are a huge market, but if you think is too difficult it will be.

[Shannon]

Time for the Affiliate program implementation! I would totally sell the shit out of your subs, make us both a fortune 

I have suggested this long time ago, because I am not sure if Shannon or his team use advance marketing strategies where you target open minded people who would actually buy subs via different social media platforms like Instagram and Facebook. And if you guys are not doing this then you definitely missing on the gold mine.

And its not hard to implement, you really have nothing to lose Shannon. It's a digital product so whatever the %. You will be getting more customers either way

I sent a private message to Ben like two weeks ago. I suppose he told you. I think expanding IML to the Spanish world would be really  lucrative. Would be good to cooperate with it.

That did not get through, and probably because I have answered this sort of thing at length previously on two or three occasions.  It boils down to this.  Translating subliminal scripts is difficult at best, and to do it properly at the level of complexity I work with would require that I either teach a group of translators what I know about scripting (never going to happen) or I become fluent in one dialect of Spanish that everyone can agree on (never going to happen because I don't have the time, and because there is no such dialect).

Even if I were to become fluent in the best dialect for South American Spanish, for example, it wouldn't work for people who use Castillian Spanish, and vice versa.  So I would need to be fluent in two different versions of Spanish at least.  

On top of that, just being fluent and knowing how I do this isn't enough to arrive at an accurate and useful translation.  It takes me a day to figure out how to word 2 statements because each word choice must be verified by the models.  I literally have to "grow" these scripts from simple statements to do that.  This is necessary because of the specifics of how the subconscious parts understand language different than the conscious parts, and that changes from language to language and from culture to culture.  

So even if I was to suddenly become 100% fluent in, say, Argentinian Spanish (that seems to have been the one dialect everyone would accept, IIRC) I still couldn't just translate my scripts because the language and cultures are different.  I would have to take the root concept for each statement and re-grow it, which would of course take a lot of time.  Probably 6 months of work just to translate the skeleton script.  

On top of that, the skeleton script isn't finished yet.  So every time I make a change, I would have to make and keep track of the equivalent change for the Spanish version, and I would have to do that for all language variants.

Communicating to the subconscious is NOT the same as just conversing normally.  The subconscious understands spoken language VERY differently than the conscious mind, and that's why I have been working since 1991 and am still not finished developing all this stuff.

It's not feasible to translate these to Spanish and hope to achieve anything like what I have developed in English.  At best, we would have to use 2G, 3G, maybe 4G techniques, and that would still require a team of at least three translators who were absolutely fluent in both languages.  That gets very expensive very quickly.

And once again, why I choose the wording is based on a deep understanding of psychology, where the models do not make the choice (as they did not make the choice for 1-2-3-4G).  I can't teach some of that, and some of it is trade secret, had won after decades of experimentation and research.

Unfortunate, but true.  Otherwise, I would have subliminals in Spanish, French, German, Russian, Italian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Swedish, Finnish, Norwegian, Icelandic, Farsi, French Creole, etc. etc.

The people from south America and Spain dont any problem in understanding each other, there are only a few different words. I know people from Venezuela, Cuba, panama, Peru, Argentina, etc...There are many authors from south america of subliminals that work really well for Spanish and the same in the opposite way. 

If the regular person that knows some English hears a subliminal in english and it works because the subconscious is powerful, a normal traduction to Spanish will work as well.

Chinese and Spanish are a huge market, but if you think is too difficult it will be.

It's not a matter of making a Mexican understand Castillian, or a Venezuelan understand the Argentinian dialect.  It's a matter of taking into account a lot of subtle factors that make a big difference in whether or not the subliminal is accepted and executed, or rejected.  

It is also not a matter of "If I think it's too difficult it will be".  It's a matter of, it's not feasible given a consideration of all the factors.

At best, I can try when 6G is finished being developed, but until then it's just asking for me to have to slow down development because I'm maintaining multiple lines of concurrent development.

I spent a lot of time and effort considering this very deeply.  It's not feasible.  At least not right now.

[DarthXedonias]

@Shannon Hey Shannon I wanted to know if you will be adding the genetic component you put in MHS 5.75 in any other subs in the future? As in directing it towards whatever the goal of the program is so it might be accomplished on a genetic level? I ask because I started it a few weeks ago and even though I have a bit more to go I had at times a intuitive feeling that a good part of the work that was accomplished was due to that particular component. I had learned as well there is some research going on that trauma might actually level chemical markers on DNA and there might be some truth to that.

[Shannon]

@Shannon Hey Shannon I wanted to know if you will be adding the genetic component you put in MHS 5.75 in any other subs in the future? As in directing it towards whatever the goal of the program is so it might be accomplished on a genetic level? I ask because I started it a few weeks ago and even though I have a bit more to go I had at times a intuitive feeling that a good part of the work that was accomplished was due to that particular component. I had learned as well there is some research going on that trauma might actually level chemical markers on DNA and there might be some truth to that.

I don't take working with genetics and epigenetics lightly.  It's not something to do without having a good reason, and understanding what is going on.  So far the MHS has shown that the genetic component in it seems to be as safe as it was designed to be, but attempts at altering the genes and epigenetics have to be reserved for where they are safe, effective and useful.  

Aside from MHS, that may be Overcoming Fear, and maybe Overcoming Guilt Shame and Fear, and Emotional Healing & Pain Relief Aid, maybe we could try to put that in Grow Taller and Penis/Breast Enlargement, but the majority of subs are not going to need or benefit from it.  Ultimate Monetary Success, for example, would seem to be a poor choice for it at first glance.

It is not in the Fear Removal Module 4.9.  Depending on how things go, it may be in FRM 5.0 (which I think will be the next, and last, version of FRM), but we are still early in understanding it for what it's good for, what can be done, etc.  I am being very cautious with this.

Can you be more specific as to how you think it's affecting/helping you?

[THolt]

@Shannon

Congrats on getting over the hump and completing the new FRM 4.9.

Looking forward to the array of new programs!!