Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[ncbeareatingman]

Hey Shannon.

As far as I understand from your journal, MHS has turned out to be a really big project. Doest that mean that we aren't going to see LTU6 any time soon? At some point you also mentioned a sub designed to eliminate all fear. Is that one planned before LTU6 or way out in the future?

 damn good questions ,Man! I look forward to seeing some answer/responses! As the saying goes 'thanks for asking'1 Ha!

[Shannon]

Hey Shannon.

As far as I understand from your journal, MHS has turned out to be a really big project. Doest that mean that we aren't going to see LTU6 any time soon? At some point you also mentioned a sub designed to eliminate all fear. Is that one planned before LTU6 or way out in the future?

MHS has simply had to wait while I dealt with a week of incredible exhaustion from making the mistake of running UMS and MHS at close to the same time.  8 loops of UMS followed by 5 loops of MHS and it dropped me like a rock.  

I am in fact almost finished with MHS, presuming that FRM does not need to be turned on - in fact I should be able to start building it today, if the models indicate that it does not need FRM.  I do not expect that they will.

LTU6 is waiting for the development of FRM 4.9 before I upgrade it.  I'm not sure when it will be upgraded, but it shouldn't be too long.

I mentioned that a sub to eliminate all fear was something I was considering, if memory serves.  I'm not entirely sure  how to do that yet, given that there are such complicated things going on with fear.  It will probably be in 2020 or 20201 that something like that comes out.

[DarthXedonias]

@Shannon Hey Shannon long time no see. Been busy here in China but keeping up every once in a while with the forum. I did have a random question though if you don't mind answering. Has any of your research after so many years pointed to the existence of a "collective unconscious" as it were? If yes, have you had any ideas of what the function of it is? Is it just a database of information? Does it have a will of its own? If your data doesn't point toward that is there something bigger and more powerful than the subconscious mind at all in your opinion? Thanks in advance for any insight you can give.

P.S. you'll be Happy to know for some strange reason your site is allowed through the Chinese firewall lol.

[Hanpan]

Hey Shannon.

As far as I understand from your journal, MHS has turned out to be a really big project. Doest that mean that we aren't going to see LTU6 any time soon? At some point you also mentioned a sub designed to eliminate all fear. Is that one planned before LTU6 or way out in the future?

MHS has simply had to wait while I dealt with a week of incredible exhaustion from making the mistake of running UMS and MHS at close to the same time.  8 loops of UMS followed by 5 loops of MHS and it dropped me like a rock.  

I am in fact almost finished with MHS, presuming that FRM does not need to be turned on - in fact I should be able to start building it today, if the models indicate that it does not need FRM.  I do not expect that they will.

LTU6 is waiting for the development of FRM 4.9 before I upgrade it.  I'm not sure when it will be upgraded, but it shouldn't be too long.

I mentioned that a sub to eliminate all fear was something I was considering, if memory serves.  I'm not entirely sure  how to do that yet, given that there are such complicated things going on with fear.  It will probably be in 2020 or 20201 that something like that comes out.

Thanks a lot for the answers. It makes a lot of sense. I'm still considering whether it would be in my best interest to continue on ARA until LTU 6 or switch to LTU 5 since I don't have any immediate need for ARA and since it is my impression that the long term effects of ARA haven't been tested yet.

I think I'll stick to ARA if LTU 6 comes out any time soon, so would it be unreasonable to expect that it will come out mid-January/start February if everything goes according to plan?

[Shannon]

I have long since given up trying to know when something will come out, because every time I try to be specific, 100% of the time, I am wrong. Nothing goes according to plan. Ever.

[Hanpan]

I have long since given up trying to know when something will come out, because every time I try to be specific, 100% of the time, I am wrong.  Nothing goes according to plan.  Ever.

 

know the feeling. good luck

[Shannon]

@Shannon Hey Shannon long time no see. Been busy here in China but keeping up every once in a while with the forum. I did have a random question though if you don't mind answering. Has any of your research after so many years pointed to the existence of a "collective unconscious" as it were? If yes, have you had any ideas of what the function of it is? Is it just a database of information? Does it have a will of its own? If your data doesn't point toward that is there something bigger and more powerful than the subconscious mind at all in your opinion? Thanks in advance for any insight you can give.

P.S. you'll be Happy to know for some strange reason your site is allowed through the Chinese firewall lol.

My experiments are suggestive of a "hive mind" of some sort, some level of awareness at which we either have access to or share the awareness of others. That certainly isn't something I can definitively say does or does not exist, but there is suggestive evidence of such a thing.

When I'm done designing 6G I'm going to try to do more investigative experimentation with that.

Glad to see you're doing your thing! And I'm glad we are allowed through the Chinese firewall.  My aunt and cousin just arrived in China for an extended stay...

[EvolvingPhoenix]

@Shannon Hey Shannon long time no see. Been busy here in China but keeping up every once in a while with the forum. I did have a random question though if you don't mind answering. Has any of your research after so many years pointed to the existence of a "collective unconscious" as it were? If yes, have you had any ideas of what the function of it is? Is it just a database of information? Does it have a will of its own? If your data doesn't point toward that is there something bigger and more powerful than the subconscious mind at all in your opinion? Thanks in advance for any insight you can give.

P.S. you'll be Happy to know for some strange reason your site is allowed through the Chinese firewall lol.

My experiments are suggestive of a "hive mind" of some sort, some level of awareness at which we either have access to or share the awareness of others. That certainly isn't something I can definitively say does or does not exist, but there is suggestive evidence of such a thing.

When I'm done designing 6G I'm going to try to do more investigative experimentation with that.

Glad to see you're doing your thing! And I'm glad we are allowed through the Chinese firewall.  My aunt and cousin just arrived in China for an extended stay...

People I know refer to this "hive mind" as a Social Memory Complex. All I'ma say about it. But yeah, we got a lot of potential for this "hive mind" you speak of.

[zero_force]

@Shannon

I run on my third AM 6.0 run. The third time ends soon, I am on stage 6.
I am not trying to say that it does not work. It brought me great results, especially on the first run. But I am definitely not  alpha. Some of the main things going on are that in the past month I failed to be assertive on many business related decisions. I failed to be assertive and ask for my rights when I was outside on social terms, several times. I failed to stand up for myself for a costly purchase I made and which is still pending for months now and they lie to my face again and again.

I know it worked for a lot of people but I am stopping using it now after this run ends. I don't know if I built some kind of resistance to it or for some reason it stopped working on me.

I just came back from a date with an attractive woman who at all phases of the date, she had the leverage of the situation. I was not alpha at all, at any occasion and when I think back on how I talked or acted I just want to bang my head on the wall. I didn't show any kind of dominance, or being alpha or whatever is the reverse of being a beta male on a date.

And I am not even sure why I am posting this. I am really hoping for some advice but I am not sure what kind of advice will help me really.

I ran it twice. Am6 specifically and felt the same. My assertiveness plummeted. I hated it. Am6 dulled my aggression. Try stage 7 see if it helps. I got some of my cockiness back during stage 7.

First of all, once again... a subliminal is a list of instructions.  Mine happen to have some special scripting aimed at getting you to cooperate, too, but if they touch on something that scares you enough, you may refuse to execute.  One thing I will never do is take away your free will with my programs.  

The quest for 6G actually started because AM6 and BAMM 2.0 were not getting through everyone's fears.  That was what, 7 years ago, and I'm still developing the means to overcome fears?  It is not a simple challenge to overcome.

The best advice I can give you is, don't sit around waiting for the sub to do everything.  If you do, you will fail when the subconscious does not want to achieve the goal, because then only the subconscious is making the decisions.  If you also try to achieve the goals with your conscious awareness and self, you'll do much better.  Your conscious mind has the ability to influence your subconscious.  So when you find yourself being "other than alpha", do what you can on a conscious level to achieve that goal.  Then ask, "Why am I not fully executing this script?  What am I afraid of?" and seek the root cause that way.

Another thing you can do is run a program that will deal with your fears.  OF is old tech, but not very expensive and it may help.  The best option we have for what you need to achieve for making AM6 work for you is probably LTU5, but that's not cheap.

You also have the option of doing E3.  That could help.  But what is blocking you here is something that scares your subconscious deeply about trying to be alpha and assert yourself.  Apparently, it scares you enough that you refuse to execute AM6 sufficiently.  Get through those fears, and you will execute.

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for seeing it late. I was caught up with things.

Thanks for the options. Wondering though, would the FRM of the latest DMSI be an option as well? 
(as I want to run DMSI next)

[Shannon]

@Shannon

I run on my third AM 6.0 run. The third time ends soon, I am on stage 6.
I am not trying to say that it does not work. It brought me great results, especially on the first run. But I am definitely not  alpha. Some of the main things going on are that in the past month I failed to be assertive on many business related decisions. I failed to be assertive and ask for my rights when I was outside on social terms, several times. I failed to stand up for myself for a costly purchase I made and which is still pending for months now and they lie to my face again and again.

I know it worked for a lot of people but I am stopping using it now after this run ends. I don't know if I built some kind of resistance to it or for some reason it stopped working on me.

I just came back from a date with an attractive woman who at all phases of the date, she had the leverage of the situation. I was not alpha at all, at any occasion and when I think back on how I talked or acted I just want to bang my head on the wall. I didn't show any kind of dominance, or being alpha or whatever is the reverse of being a beta male on a date.

And I am not even sure why I am posting this. I am really hoping for some advice but I am not sure what kind of advice will help me really.

I ran it twice. Am6 specifically and felt the same. My assertiveness plummeted. I hated it. Am6 dulled my aggression. Try stage 7 see if it helps. I got some of my cockiness back during stage 7.

First of all, once again... a subliminal is a list of instructions.  Mine happen to have some special scripting aimed at getting you to cooperate, too, but if they touch on something that scares you enough, you may refuse to execute.  One thing I will never do is take away your free will with my programs.  

The quest for 6G actually started because AM6 and BAMM 2.0 were not getting through everyone's fears.  That was what, 7 years ago, and I'm still developing the means to overcome fears?  It is not a simple challenge to overcome.

The best advice I can give you is, don't sit around waiting for the sub to do everything.  If you do, you will fail when the subconscious does not want to achieve the goal, because then only the subconscious is making the decisions.  If you also try to achieve the goals with your conscious awareness and self, you'll do much better.  Your conscious mind has the ability to influence your subconscious.  So when you find yourself being "other than alpha", do what you can on a conscious level to achieve that goal.  Then ask, "Why am I not fully executing this script?  What am I afraid of?" and seek the root cause that way.

Another thing you can do is run a program that will deal with your fears.  OF is old tech, but not very expensive and it may help.  The best option we have for what you need to achieve for making AM6 work for you is probably LTU5, but that's not cheap.

You also have the option of doing E3.  That could help.  But what is blocking you here is something that scares your subconscious deeply about trying to be alpha and assert yourself.  Apparently, it scares you enough that you refuse to execute AM6 sufficiently.  Get through those fears, and you will execute.

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for seeing it late. I was caught up with things.

Thanks for the options. Wondering though, would the FRM of the latest DMSI be an option as well? 
(as I want to run DMSI next)

FRM in DMSI 3.3.2 is much more powerful an option for fear removal than anything that came before it, but it isn't perfect.  It's also aimed at achieving the goals of the host program, and DMSI is decidedly not trying to make you alpha.

The question now is... why were you running AM6?

[zero_force]

@Shannon

I run on my third AM 6.0 run. The third time ends soon, I am on stage 6.
I am not trying to say that it does not work. It brought me great results, especially on the first run. But I am definitely not  alpha. Some of the main things going on are that in the past month I failed to be assertive on many business related decisions. I failed to be assertive and ask for my rights when I was outside on social terms, several times. I failed to stand up for myself for a costly purchase I made and which is still pending for months now and they lie to my face again and again.

I know it worked for a lot of people but I am stopping using it now after this run ends. I don't know if I built some kind of resistance to it or for some reason it stopped working on me.

I just came back from a date with an attractive woman who at all phases of the date, she had the leverage of the situation. I was not alpha at all, at any occasion and when I think back on how I talked or acted I just want to bang my head on the wall. I didn't show any kind of dominance, or being alpha or whatever is the reverse of being a beta male on a date.

And I am not even sure why I am posting this. I am really hoping for some advice but I am not sure what kind of advice will help me really.

I ran it twice. Am6 specifically and felt the same. My assertiveness plummeted. I hated it. Am6 dulled my aggression. Try stage 7 see if it helps. I got some of my cockiness back during stage 7.

First of all, once again... a subliminal is a list of instructions.  Mine happen to have some special scripting aimed at getting you to cooperate, too, but if they touch on something that scares you enough, you may refuse to execute.  One thing I will never do is take away your free will with my programs.  

The quest for 6G actually started because AM6 and BAMM 2.0 were not getting through everyone's fears.  That was what, 7 years ago, and I'm still developing the means to overcome fears?  It is not a simple challenge to overcome.

The best advice I can give you is, don't sit around waiting for the sub to do everything.  If you do, you will fail when the subconscious does not want to achieve the goal, because then only the subconscious is making the decisions.  If you also try to achieve the goals with your conscious awareness and self, you'll do much better.  Your conscious mind has the ability to influence your subconscious.  So when you find yourself being "other than alpha", do what you can on a conscious level to achieve that goal.  Then ask, "Why am I not fully executing this script?  What am I afraid of?" and seek the root cause that way.

Another thing you can do is run a program that will deal with your fears.  OF is old tech, but not very expensive and it may help.  The best option we have for what you need to achieve for making AM6 work for you is probably LTU5, but that's not cheap.

You also have the option of doing E3.  That could help.  But what is blocking you here is something that scares your subconscious deeply about trying to be alpha and assert yourself.  Apparently, it scares you enough that you refuse to execute AM6 sufficiently.  Get through those fears, and you will execute.

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for seeing it late. I was caught up with things.

Thanks for the options. Wondering though, would the FRM of the latest DMSI be an option as well? 
(as I want to run DMSI next)

FRM in DMSI 3.3.2 is much more powerful an option for fear removal than anything that came before it, but it isn't perfect.  It's also aimed at achieving the goals of the host program, and DMSI is decidedly not trying to make you alpha.

The question now is... why were you running AM6?

See.. I purchased LTU5 when it was 600 so I have the option to use this as well. 

True. With DMSI I am not alpha at all. Or at least is not making me alpha on any level.

I run AM6 for a third time because  I needed to get out of a bad relationship (I did and I can 100% say its alpha male program that caused this) and to make me more assertive with people around me.

The reasons I run AM6 a third time are 1. The two previous runs gave me great results, 2. after the second run I noticed more alpha qualities showing up but "activating" here and there. When I asked about this on the forum you told me (general theme, I don't remember exact words) that I should make another run to establish them. What I noticed is that the stage 3 each time is getting worse on me. This time it was that tough that I was so messed up emotionally. At some point I didn't know what was going on, lost motive for life or even getting out of the house. When I went to step 4, day 1 or 2, everything was OK again. Motive was back, life was good. I will definitely never run AM6 again after what I experienced couple of months ago. I am very very scared to experience another month of depression.

So thanks for your time and helpt. From what I understand I should start with LTU5 after the end of AM6.

[Shannon]

If you had that sort of response to Stage 3 of AM6, yes. Run LTU5+ next.

[KingDavid93]

@Shannon

Hi Shannon,

Out of curiosity once the frm has been fully completed do you think it be possible to create that sub that could replicate the effects that alcohol has on us but 24/7 and without the negatives and the hangover that come with drinking heavily/drinking regularly.

What I mean is that when I’m around 4-6 shots in (so a bac of like .08-.12) I find that I more or less begin to get out of my own way, I stop sabotaging myself, I can get out of my head, stop overthinking everything, the words begin to flow during conversation, I am completely relaxed and can just begin to do and perform and get to where I’m trying to go and accomplish whatever task is at hand in the moment (it’s pretty crazy what a difference it makes)

It gets rid of whatever degree of PE I may be having (and I can last as long as I need to- if i hit 8+ shots in I can go forever if neede ), gets rid of the anxiety, I find I become much more approachable and likeable- I become funnier- and approaching becomes a breeze- the most successful I’ve been in the past using DMSI has always been while drunk.

To put it simply it frees me up and allows me to be myself, no more bs, no more self sabotage, no more obstacles, I've actually used it in the past to help me focus better and deal with my adhd (I’ve actually been able to sit still and deal with tedious work that I kept pushing back and procrastinating on while buzzed). It makes me way more positive, life and everything around me becomes fun and enjoyable again- it’s extremely annoying that I need to do this.

Unfortunately I can’t stay perpetually drunk without leading myself to an early grave (that’s not even taking into consideration all other problems that it will bring along with things like increasing levels of tolerance, etc)

[Shawn]

@Shannon

Hi Shannon,

Out of curiosity once the frm has been fully completed do you think it be possible to create that sub that could replicate the effects that alcohol has on us but 24/7 and without the negatives and the hangover that come with drinking heavily/drinking regularly.

What I mean is that when I’m around 4-6 shots in (so a bac of like .08-.12) I find that I more or less begin to get out of my own way, I stop sabotaging myself, I can get out of my head, stop overthinking everything, the words begin to flow during conversation, I am completely relaxed and can just begin to do and perform and get to where I’m trying to go and accomplish whatever task is at hand in the moment (it’s pretty crazy what a difference it makes)

It gets rid of whatever degree of PE I may be having (and I can last as long as I need to- if i hit 8+ shots in I can go forever if neede ), gets rid of the anxiety, I find I become much more approachable and likeable- I become funnier- and approaching becomes a breeze- the most successful I’ve been in the past using DMSI has always been while drunk.

To put it simply it frees me up and allows me to be myself, no more bs, no more self sabotage, no more obstacles, I've actually used it in the past to help me focus better and deal with my adhd (I’ve actually been able to sit still and deal with tedious work that I kept pushing back and procrastinating on while buzzed). It makes me way more positive, life and everything around me becomes fun and enjoyable again- it’s extremely annoying that I need to do this.

Unfortunately I can’t stay perpetually drunk without leading myself to an early grave (that’s not even taking into consideration all other problems that it will bring along with things like increasing levels of tolerance, etc)

Not Shannon, but once FRM is completed and working all the problems you described should be not a problem anymore.