Good question. I often pay, but not for dates, with new girls.
Regarding payment, I often pick up the tab for anyone I'm out with (friends, women, business partners) and they often pick it up for me. I once met a girl at a party, she bought me 3 shots of vodka and then screwed me all night. So she was the instigator there. Lot sof times I pay though even if they insist I'll just say the staff knows me and that I like to treat.
But I don't go on "dates" with girls I'm not already screwing. The classic "date" is a turnoff to women you're not already sexing. (Unles she's very young and impressionable with a fancy evening.) To most women of any experience, it looks like you're one of countless betas buying a girl food so she screws him. And for me it's a quick meetup where I double book myself for the evening, just drinks and maybe an appetizer or two to smooth out any hunger, almost NEVER dinner BEFORE sex,. A dinner is a BIG BIG TURNOFF to starting a sexual relationship. Who wants to f while burping on a full stomach?? Who wants to stare across the table at someone? better to sit next to them at a bar so you can chit chat with others around you.so a quick drink at the nice and sort of elegant cocktail bar closest to my house and maybe an app, and then back to my house if i like them. a date is for AFTER there is some kind of (sexual) relationship, not BEFORE. why would I spend $ and time on someone I haven't even screwed yet and where there is no apparent business opportunity or friendship? good god, time is too valuable for that! not to mention money. I love to go on dates with girls I care about, NOT girls I am just trying to f! i'll go on "dates" with platonic female friends to reward them and enjoy time together as part of our friendship, and catch up on everything. "dates" are a turnoff to women who aren't yet sold on you, because it seems try-hard, pushy, and like you are trying to buy them instead of arouse them. dates can DEVALUE you if you don't have a reason to care about them already.
That being said if a chick becomes a regular there also needs to be something in it for me to provide her with sex and leadership. If the drama becomes too much I am out, pronto. If they play the exclusivity card ("I need exclusivity to continue the sexual relationship") I am very quick to say Let's Just Be Friends! (And they always want to keep screwing after hearing that, funny eh.) Any exclusivity needs to come from me and not their demands or ultimatums.
This is part of the recipe for a happy and abundant sex life where you are in the driver's seat and treating everything fairly.
Regarding payment, I often pick up the tab for anyone I'm out with (friends, women, business partners) and they often pick it up for me. I once met a girl at a party, she bought me 3 shots of vodka and then screwed me all night. So she was the instigator there. Lot sof times I pay though even if they insist I'll just say the staff knows me and that I like to treat.
But I don't go on "dates" with girls I'm not already screwing. The classic "date" is a turnoff to women you're not already sexing. (Unles she's very young and impressionable with a fancy evening.) To most women of any experience, it looks like you're one of countless betas buying a girl food so she screws him. And for me it's a quick meetup where I double book myself for the evening, just drinks and maybe an appetizer or two to smooth out any hunger, almost NEVER dinner BEFORE sex,. A dinner is a BIG BIG TURNOFF to starting a sexual relationship. Who wants to f while burping on a full stomach?? Who wants to stare across the table at someone? better to sit next to them at a bar so you can chit chat with others around you.so a quick drink at the nice and sort of elegant cocktail bar closest to my house and maybe an app, and then back to my house if i like them. a date is for AFTER there is some kind of (sexual) relationship, not BEFORE. why would I spend $ and time on someone I haven't even screwed yet and where there is no apparent business opportunity or friendship? good god, time is too valuable for that! not to mention money. I love to go on dates with girls I care about, NOT girls I am just trying to f! i'll go on "dates" with platonic female friends to reward them and enjoy time together as part of our friendship, and catch up on everything. "dates" are a turnoff to women who aren't yet sold on you, because it seems try-hard, pushy, and like you are trying to buy them instead of arouse them. dates can DEVALUE you if you don't have a reason to care about them already.
That being said if a chick becomes a regular there also needs to be something in it for me to provide her with sex and leadership. If the drama becomes too much I am out, pronto. If they play the exclusivity card ("I need exclusivity to continue the sexual relationship") I am very quick to say Let's Just Be Friends! (And they always want to keep screwing after hearing that, funny eh.) Any exclusivity needs to come from me and not their demands or ultimatums.
This is part of the recipe for a happy and abundant sex life where you are in the driver's seat and treating everything fairly.
