Subliminal Talk

Been thinking about my last post. I think it IS important to meet a higher standard, actually.

You don't actually want everyone making excuses for you, or excusing you because then you'll never grow. However, you also want people to give you some leeway and not be TOO strict with you.

Basically, if you're honestly improving and trying to improve, that should be enough. And if you're learning from (and not repeating) your mistakes, that should be enough.

Met with my cousin today. Good convo. We actually went to a bar for nachos. We stayed there 1 hour after they closed. I don't know why they never told us to leave. O.O

Anyhow, the topic of pick up came up and how guys who are naturals or even guys who are good with women don't necessarily know how to teach it to noobs. Much like how Wayne Gretzky may have been NHL's best Hockey Player but isn't a very good coach.

I'm looking for a good coach, not a good player.

Had a dream last night of my HD. I was trying to get her to go out with me but there were a lot of internal blockages in the dream. Mostly not knowing how to do it in a tactful yet still "alpha" way. I see her this week.

Haven't you already taken her out on a date once before?

I'm not sure if you noticed but there was ALOT of subtext going on the last time you visited her.

"When getting my hair cut, I made her laugh a few times but mostly she was complaining to me about her sons living with her. She said "The sex wasn't worth it"

then we switched topics onto a trip she took to a neighbouring city. She mentioned a guy texted her to come over. She never said if she did but it was heavily implied. She was like "He's a sexy firefighter. He's hot... REALLY hot." then she denied doing anything (I didn't ask, she just went "but nah, we didn't do anything etc") and started qualifying the guy to me "he's done well for himself. He's a chief now, etc etc

I was all like "right on, good for him" (I used to do that with girls, pump up their BF while they told me about him and it seemed to work) but honestly, right now I just feel like I'm in AFC land. Worse than AFC actually. When we were up at the front paying, my HD dropped something. Perfect opportunity to give a butt display, but she did not. Also, she said her goodbyes and left before done which has NEVER happened."

I can't understand why you'd go running back to that

(11-27-2017, 07:03 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]Haven't you already taken her out on a date once before?

I'm not sure if you noticed but there was ALOT of subtext going on the last time you visited her.

"When getting my hair cut, I made her laugh a few times but mostly she was complaining to me about her sons living with her. She said "The sex wasn't worth it"

then we switched topics onto a trip she took to a neighbouring city. She mentioned a guy texted her to come over. She never said if she did but it was heavily implied. She was like "He's a sexy firefighter. He's hot... REALLY hot." then she denied doing anything (I didn't ask, she just went "but nah, we didn't do anything etc") and started qualifying the guy to me "he's done well for himself. He's a chief now, etc etc

I was all like "right on, good for him" (I used to do that with girls, pump up their BF while they told me about him and it seemed to work) but honestly, right now I just feel like I'm in AFC land. Worse than AFC actually. When we were up at the front paying, my HD dropped something. Perfect opportunity to give a butt display, but she did not. Also, she said her goodbyes and left before done which has NEVER happened."

I can't understand why you'd go running back to that

Explain "running back to that"... to what?

to AFC land

Lol yeah well, AFC is the way I behave. Hopefully I'm fixing that.

Currently I'm working on my "persistence" which I've heard good things about. *shrug*

So I'm gonna do DMSI 3.0.1a for the rest of the week. That was the one my hairdresser responded best to, and I'll use Xist to hopefully reset her. Then, next week, I'm visiting a different city for a job offer. I may stay there for a long time, so we'll see how that goes. I'm hoping the sudden change will be anough to shake my HD into a "wanting" state. But this is mainly a hail mary.


My main concern atm is work and getting my finances and career on track.

Back on 3.0.1a

Attraction is back. Hovering is back, 3-5 year old girls getting snippy with me while doing door-to-door is back lol (was at a door talking to the mom, little girl comes over and says "Who are YOU?!" in a very demanding tone )

Intense feelings towards my hairdresser are back. Not a needy "need to get her" feeling, more like a "need to spend time with her cause she's so fun" feeling.

I intend to go out approaching today but I'm still trying to do everything I need to do in order to get ready for this new job.

Hey there Sarge. I think what Determined is alluding to (he can correct me if I'm wrong) is the fact that your hairdresser *seems* (keyword SEEMS, because we ain't there so we don't know) to NOT be interested in you in anything other than a platonic customer-business associate relationship then why continue to entertain her in any setting outside of business.

Now here's the thing, and this is all IMO: IF you yourself genuinely do NOT mind being in a platonic relationship with your hairdresser outside of business interactions then it's your right and no harm no foul. However, IF you DO mind, and you DO want something MORE than a platonic relationship with your hairdresser outside of business interactions then it SEEMS counterproductive to keep talking with her in that specific regard.

All that being said, it's all you man. We're not there, and if you feel all this is necessary for your development, have at it.

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On another note, I've had the same issue with women showing a shit ton of interest and then it stalls out. In one case it *may* have been due to the anti-sniper cause one chick was revealed to be a bit of a drama queen or as people in the states call it, "ratchet".

(11-28-2017, 06:12 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]Hey there Sarge. I think what Determined is alluding to (he can correct me if I'm wrong) is the fact that your hairdresser *seems* (keyword SEEMS, because we ain't there so we don't know) to NOT be interested in you in anything other than a platonic customer-business associate relationship then why continue to entertain her in any setting outside of business.

Now here's the thing, and this is all IMO: IF you yourself genuinely do NOT mind being in a platonic relationship with your hairdresser outside of business interactions then it's your right and no harm no foul. However, IF you DO mind, and you DO want something MORE than a platonic relationship with your hairdresser outside of business interactions then it SEEMS counterproductive to keep talking with her in that specific regard.

Yeah well obviously I want something more (isn't it obvious?) but I don't know how to do that.

The reason I'm doing what I'm doing is because I think it WILL lead me there. I've learned so much this year about socializing and women and I'm doing exactly what I think is the right thing to do.

You say I shouldn't continue talking with her in that specific regard, but what do you mean by that?

Any suggestions that don't include "next her and move on" are welcome.

To me, it's about getting what I want. I want my hairdresser. Nexting her won't do that, that's why I don't listen to that advice.

(11-28-2017, 06:12 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]All that being said, it's all you man. We're not there, and if you feel all this is necessary for your development, have at it.

Yes, I do. Like I said, though, if someone can help me improve to better my chances with her, I'm all ears. What I won't listen to is "move on, bro" because that's giving up.

And because I'm not spending anything on her that I wouldn't be spending on a male hair stylist, I don't see the problem.

If I'm losing my balls and being emasculated, ok, let's address that. If I'm spending for her kids taxi, let's address that, but going to get my hair cut and trying to woo her? I don't see a problem.

Not to mention, this girl started out absolutely infatuated by me. So I feel like there's something there.

(11-28-2017, 06:12 PM)K-Train Wrote: [ -> ]*******************************************************

On another note, I've had the same issue with women showing a shit ton of interest and then it stalls out. In one case it *may* have been due to the anti-sniper cause one chick was revealed to be a bit of a drama queen or as people in the states call it, "ratchet".

Yeah I hear you.

That frustrates me because drama queen, really? That's a problem now? How about "shake it off" modules for DMSI so we don't get rattled by the crazies?

As I've said, if it was ME, I'd have DMSI ONLY anti-snipe and repel women who were a threat to your life (including, but not limited to, women who would sabotage your work/ability to make money, your reputation, or anything to keep you from your goals in life).

But if a girl likes to talk about herself all day, I couldn't care less, so long as I'm f*cking her.

TBH K-Train I applaud the effort Sarge is putting in. He has his desired outcome and he's going for it.

Whether or not he's taking the right approach, that's up to him to figure out.

(11-28-2017, 07:17 PM)Determined Wrote: [ -> ]TBH K-Train I applaud the effort Sarge is putting in. He has his desired outcome and he's going for it.

Whether or not he's taking the right approach, that's up to him to figure out.

See and that's bullsh!t because if you're not going to ADD something constructive you're wasting my time.

Don't come and say "you're wrong, have a nice day." Seriously.


DMSI Notable (thanks to Determined):

- Forum AMOGGING is back

Lol, you're actually a twat. In no way was that an attack but somehow you've taken it as such

While K-Train is discouraging you, I'm commending you for having a desired outcome and going for it. There are numerous ways of getting to it, how you're going to do it is up to you.