12-11-2017, 08:37 AM
12-12-2017, 07:20 PM
Hmmm
Very concerning things happening.
Today in sales I only got 4 in 2 hours (terrible).
One of the more experienced guys went out with me and got 4 from 2 houses (basement suites) and I was just thinking "Wtf is wrong with me?"
It's like I suddenly got terrible at sales, and I'm using DMSI regularly again. Coincidence? I hope so.
I REALLY hope I can use DMSI without sucking at sales, but what happened today has shaken my confidence yet again.
It's like I'm missing something or some flaw in my character (perhaps) is magnified by DMSI where normally I can get by beautifully.
I have no idea why.
If things don't change tomorrow I'm dropping DMSI and will use AM 6 refresher till 3.2
I hope Shannon can fix it, whatever "it" is. I honestly have no idea what it may be. On Tuesday, I was barely saying anything to people to get them to sign, today, no one was opening their doors for one, and when they did, many of them were too skeptical to even listen to me.
EDIT: Actually, f*ck it. I'm not playing the "maybe things will improve" game with DMSI anymore.
I'm on AM 6 refresher till 3.2
I hope the issues get resolved.
Very concerning things happening.
Today in sales I only got 4 in 2 hours (terrible).
One of the more experienced guys went out with me and got 4 from 2 houses (basement suites) and I was just thinking "Wtf is wrong with me?"
It's like I suddenly got terrible at sales, and I'm using DMSI regularly again. Coincidence? I hope so.
I REALLY hope I can use DMSI without sucking at sales, but what happened today has shaken my confidence yet again.
It's like I'm missing something or some flaw in my character (perhaps) is magnified by DMSI where normally I can get by beautifully.
I have no idea why.
If things don't change tomorrow I'm dropping DMSI and will use AM 6 refresher till 3.2
I hope Shannon can fix it, whatever "it" is. I honestly have no idea what it may be. On Tuesday, I was barely saying anything to people to get them to sign, today, no one was opening their doors for one, and when they did, many of them were too skeptical to even listen to me.
EDIT: Actually, f*ck it. I'm not playing the "maybe things will improve" game with DMSI anymore.
I'm on AM 6 refresher till 3.2
I hope the issues get resolved.
12-12-2017, 07:56 PM
(12-12-2017, 07:20 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]It's like I'm missing something or some flaw in my character (perhaps) is magnified by DMSI where normally I can get by beautifully.
I have no idea why.
Dude, I completely resonate with this part of your message today! It's like DMSI is making us act like a sine wave. Full of ups and downs
12-12-2017, 08:32 PM
(12-12-2017, 07:56 PM)Razib1988 Wrote: [ -> ](12-12-2017, 07:20 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]It's like I'm missing something or some flaw in my character (perhaps) is magnified by DMSI where normally I can get by beautifully.
I have no idea why.
Dude, I completely resonate with this part of your message today! It's like DMSI is making us act like a sine wave. Full of ups and downs
Dude, same for me when I read your stripper story and how you used to get away with things that you can't now. That's EXACTLY how it is for me in sales.
I'm a natural salesman and I can get anyone to say yes, but not on DMSI. Hence why I'm not using it until Shannon resolves whatever the issue is.
I wish I knew what it was so I could offer feedback, but all I know is the results I'm getting.
12-13-2017, 06:10 PM
Ever heard the term healing crisis? Supposedly when we heal stuff it has a tendency to manifest incredibly undesirable things in our lives. It's almost like off dmsi we are able to suppress that subconscious influence. But while on it we are being dragged through it to get past it. But the kicker is if we have fear blocking us from moving past it, it's like being stuck in limbo with really negative beliefs and thoughts. So we readily manifest all the crap we do not want while stuck here.
On one hand this shows how powerful dmsi can push us to make change. On the other hand it shows if the user isn't willing or is unready to move past this stuff it has severe backlash in their day to day life. How many loops are you doing? A few weeks ago I swear my reaction to DMSI was causing me to make mistakes at my job and try to get me fired. Since upping to 4 loops I find myself cooperating more.
On one hand this shows how powerful dmsi can push us to make change. On the other hand it shows if the user isn't willing or is unready to move past this stuff it has severe backlash in their day to day life. How many loops are you doing? A few weeks ago I swear my reaction to DMSI was causing me to make mistakes at my job and try to get me fired. Since upping to 4 loops I find myself cooperating more.
12-13-2017, 10:01 PM
Interesting Matt, I wonder if I should up my loops too then.
Today in sales I killed it. Got 28 and could have gotten a LOT more except some of the houses I was knocking had already been sold.
Still, 28 is great. I was in the f*cking zone. No one could resist me. I even sold to people who were speaking another language and just using hand signals and explaining to them in baby talk, like caveman language. Primitive as f*ck but super effective.
I also knocked on a door where the woman was gorgeous and I thought "oh shit, this one won't go through because she's hot and she'll try to be all feminazi" but I got that one too. Afterward she commented to me "You're a very good communicator"
Yes I am. moke:
Anyhow, this all brings into question my "DMSI=bad sales ability" logic, because even though I didn't listen to dmsi last night, it must still be playing in my subconscious and blooming all day today.
I think I'll risk using DMSI tonight to see what happens.
I swear the vibe is different and it f*cks with my sales ability, but I don't know anymore.
I'm reading the book "Principles" by Ray Dalio and in it he talks about how he makes decisions. He's a billionaire btw, but the book is full of his principles for life. A lot of them are things like "face reality as it is" "have radical transparency" "look to nature and learn how reality works" stuff like that. It's all about learning constantly from the feedback you get in life so you can make better decisions and get better results. All good things.
So yeah, trying to incorporate that.
With regards to sales, I have to do all the things Ray does with sales, which means I have to look at what is happening, what kinds of reactions I get at what times and in what states, and etc.
Because of this, I was seeing the "DMSI=Bad sales ability" trend. Literally nothing seemed to shake my sales ability except DMSI. Of course, today's results contradict that, so I have to be real, take my emotions out of it, and accept that, even though DMSI is still running and blooming in my SubC atm, I was still able to get great sales results, which means it is NOT DMSI (at least, not very likely)
Anyhow, that was just a bit of background for anyone who wonders why the Anti-DMSI stuff recently.
I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong though. I'm also not afraid to change my approach or my beliefs if need be.
Also, as much as is possible without giving away private details, I'm going to try and be completely candid from now on. But I think I already do that.
EDIT: One of the things that doesn't make sense to me (and that I don't buy) is the idea that DMSI can make you worse while making you better. To me, it's all surface-level. When you're doing sales and you sign somebody up, you don't think ":hmm, now, did they REALLY want to buy or are they playing some kind of game?" there's no shit like that. It's either a sale or not.
Same for everything imo. It's either a sale or it isn't. It's either a success, or it is a hindrance. My only question for subs is which one are they? Does DMSI hinder or help me?
Today in sales I killed it. Got 28 and could have gotten a LOT more except some of the houses I was knocking had already been sold.
Still, 28 is great. I was in the f*cking zone. No one could resist me. I even sold to people who were speaking another language and just using hand signals and explaining to them in baby talk, like caveman language. Primitive as f*ck but super effective.
I also knocked on a door where the woman was gorgeous and I thought "oh shit, this one won't go through because she's hot and she'll try to be all feminazi" but I got that one too. Afterward she commented to me "You're a very good communicator"
Yes I am. moke:
Anyhow, this all brings into question my "DMSI=bad sales ability" logic, because even though I didn't listen to dmsi last night, it must still be playing in my subconscious and blooming all day today.
I think I'll risk using DMSI tonight to see what happens.
I swear the vibe is different and it f*cks with my sales ability, but I don't know anymore.
I'm reading the book "Principles" by Ray Dalio and in it he talks about how he makes decisions. He's a billionaire btw, but the book is full of his principles for life. A lot of them are things like "face reality as it is" "have radical transparency" "look to nature and learn how reality works" stuff like that. It's all about learning constantly from the feedback you get in life so you can make better decisions and get better results. All good things.
So yeah, trying to incorporate that.
With regards to sales, I have to do all the things Ray does with sales, which means I have to look at what is happening, what kinds of reactions I get at what times and in what states, and etc.
Because of this, I was seeing the "DMSI=Bad sales ability" trend. Literally nothing seemed to shake my sales ability except DMSI. Of course, today's results contradict that, so I have to be real, take my emotions out of it, and accept that, even though DMSI is still running and blooming in my SubC atm, I was still able to get great sales results, which means it is NOT DMSI (at least, not very likely)
Anyhow, that was just a bit of background for anyone who wonders why the Anti-DMSI stuff recently.
I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong though. I'm also not afraid to change my approach or my beliefs if need be.
Also, as much as is possible without giving away private details, I'm going to try and be completely candid from now on. But I think I already do that.
EDIT: One of the things that doesn't make sense to me (and that I don't buy) is the idea that DMSI can make you worse while making you better. To me, it's all surface-level. When you're doing sales and you sign somebody up, you don't think ":hmm, now, did they REALLY want to buy or are they playing some kind of game?" there's no shit like that. It's either a sale or not.
Same for everything imo. It's either a sale or it isn't. It's either a success, or it is a hindrance. My only question for subs is which one are they? Does DMSI hinder or help me?
12-14-2017, 05:59 AM
Well I think you're underestimating the subconscious and its massive ability to fuck with you or boost you up to new heights. Since most of the development as well as the healing and clearing with Shannon's subs go on at a subconscious level, if you're in a healing stage, where only bad things are happening because you're working through negative subconscious shit, you're not going to start having conscious thoughts of ":hmm, now, did they REALLY want to buy or are they playing some kind of game?"
You're just going to continuously suffer in almost every area of your life for inexplicable reasons until one day, you're not suffering anymore--you're actually doing better than you've ever done in your life
You're just going to continuously suffer in almost every area of your life for inexplicable reasons until one day, you're not suffering anymore--you're actually doing better than you've ever done in your life
12-14-2017, 08:39 AM
(12-14-2017, 05:59 AM)kalmah0804 Wrote: [ -> ]Well I think you're underestimating the subconscious and its massive ability to **** with you or boost you up to new heights. Since most of the development as well as the healing and clearing with Shannon's subs go on at a subconscious level, if you're in a healing stage, where only bad things are happening because you're working through negative subconscious shit, you're not going to start having conscious thoughts of ":hmm, now, did they REALLY want to buy or are they playing some kind of game?"
Just to be clear, when I said that I was stating that the "sales game" simply does not work that way. People don't buy to f*ck with a salesman, they buy because they want the product.
I was making the point that there is NO hidden "behind the scenes" factors in sales and that everything that happens is pretty much face-value.
(12-14-2017, 05:59 AM)kalmah0804 Wrote: [ -> ]You're just going to continuously suffer in almost every area of your life for inexplicable reasons until one day, you're not suffering anymore--you're actually doing better than you've ever done in your life
I hear what you're saying, but to me, it's only inexplicable because we don't understand things yet.
Through better self-awareness and better decision making, we can achieve anything. This isn't some "woo-woo" thing either, people like Ray Dalio (middle class kid who became a billionaire, self-made I might add) did exactly that.
I don't think he used subliminals...
ANYhow, I understand there's a lot of frustration and again, I understand that the truth hurts, but we gotta be real, otherwise we won't progress.
Speaking of, we'll see how sales goes today.
I'm already expecting less numbers simply because I'll be in the same area as yesterday, so I've already closed a lot of people there, so my chances to get sales will be lower.
My main focus, then, will be on the state I'm in and the reactions I'm getting with people.
Perhaps I'll only do DMSI a few times a week/month as Travis is saying, and fill the rest of the days with AM refresher. We'll see!
Peace all!
12-14-2017, 09:00 PM
As expected, I didn't get too many in sales today.
There were a number of factors, but also, I f*cked up a bunch of times. Felt like I was out of step/rhythm.
I'm not blaming DMSI tho, I just had a malfunction in my order program that cost me 2 easy sales at the start of the night, and then it felt like I was out of rhythm from then on.
Anyhow, I've noticed how people don't generally like to listen to me.
I'll listen to them and they talk and talk, but the instant I say something, it's like they lose interest. I have no idea why.
This has been going on for a while.
Also, talking with a girl online and have no idea where to take it.
As always, my "genuine" self wants to just jump in bed with her, but that won't work. But then if I do what supposedly "works", I won't be genuine.
FML
EDIT:
ION, okc suddenly has a TON of hot girls on it. DMSI for sure.
There were a number of factors, but also, I f*cked up a bunch of times. Felt like I was out of step/rhythm.
I'm not blaming DMSI tho, I just had a malfunction in my order program that cost me 2 easy sales at the start of the night, and then it felt like I was out of rhythm from then on.
Anyhow, I've noticed how people don't generally like to listen to me.
I'll listen to them and they talk and talk, but the instant I say something, it's like they lose interest. I have no idea why.
This has been going on for a while.
Also, talking with a girl online and have no idea where to take it.
As always, my "genuine" self wants to just jump in bed with her, but that won't work. But then if I do what supposedly "works", I won't be genuine.
FML
EDIT:
ION, okc suddenly has a TON of hot girls on it. DMSI for sure.
12-14-2017, 10:21 PM
Woman magnet would be really good for sales IMO. (warm energy good vibe)
12-15-2017, 08:31 AM
(12-14-2017, 10:21 PM)Raykon Wrote: [ -> ]Woman magnet would be really good for sales IMO. (warm energy good vibe)
Maybe. I don't really wanna risk it as I don't have WM.
I'll just stick to AM 6 and/or DMSI
Social Skills are what I need first and forem ost. It's become glaringly obvious that I'm just missing something, yet all the books I'm reading don't seem to help. And yes, I apply the principles.
How to Win Friends and Influence People for example. The advice "Ask about other people" "show interest in other people" or whatever it is. Where you ask people about themselves. I can do that till the end of time yet as soon as I go to talk about me, the convo dies, people leave. It's like they only want me for THEIR validation and anything to do with me is not interesting to them.
Or take relating to people.
The other day a guy was telling me a story about why he loves his brother and how they're so close but never used to be. So I said "Yeah it used to be like that with my brother too. We were apart but we've gotten closer and I couldn't stand the idea of hurting him. I want good things for him" etc.
Silence.
Literally the guy just said "huh."
And I'm like "Hmm?"
And he says "nah I just realized, sometimes you don't have to say anything" WTF?
Then take smiling and being positive. Doesn't work for me. Smirking does (thank god) and saying "I'm awesome, how are you?" when people ask me how I am also works very well, but I've not managed to forge any relationships.
People like to help me but then I feel bad because I don't know what I can do to pay them back. And I'm constantly trying to find ways to pay people back or support them somehow.
Or, like in sales, it's always a see-saw battle of who is going to be helping whom. I feel like many people give me the sale to just help me (since it's something they'd get anyways) but don't want anything to do with me after the fact. And I want to be the one helping THEM but they always seem to wrestle that position away from me.
It is literally a nightmare.
And then there is another guy in sales who I personally think is annoying. He talks non-stop and everyone else seems to think he's annoying too. YET, he gets a TON of sales lol. And because of that, people listen to him.
Maybe I just don't have any value, I don't know.
I have a good hair cut, and I'm grooming myself daily, so it's not that.
I just don't know.
12-15-2017, 09:29 PM
Did good in sales today :o
Used DMSI last night :o
Conversations flow more smoothly :o
Made people laugh at the door :o
Got a guy's number for a drinking buddy :o
Got paid today :o
Enjoying myself :o
Still talking to that girl online :o
Can't think of anything else to say :o
Used DMSI last night :o
Conversations flow more smoothly :o
Made people laugh at the door :o
Got a guy's number for a drinking buddy :o
Got paid today :o
Enjoying myself :o
Still talking to that girl online :o
Can't think of anything else to say :o
12-16-2017, 05:34 PM
yeah buddy killing it!
12-16-2017, 09:16 PM
(12-16-2017, 05:34 PM)Raykon Wrote: [ -> ]yeah buddy killing it!
Thanks.
Still talking to that girl. Got her qualifying to me. She says "Well, I'm fun for one thing..." aww yeah. moke:
Pitched a meetup for Monday, we'll see how it goes.
- Today in sales got invited into these old people's house. Super nice. They invited me in for tea and cookies. I accepted (since I was killing it in sales anyways. *cough* hair-mentality *cough*)
Anyhow, that was fun, but then the woman starts talking to me like crazy and gets super emotional. I don't know if she was going to cry or was being confrontational. It was weird, then she started talking about aliens and conspiracy theories and rule 4 stuff and man. I didn't know what to do. I just wrapped things up as smoothly as I could.
I feel like on DMSI people want to talk to me a LOT more.
On the way into work (driving) one of my team mates suddenly went all inspirational/tony robbins on me, trying to give me advice and shit. It was crazy. He wouldn't stop talking.
I felt bad because I already knew everything he was telling me but I didn't want to make him feel bad so I didn't say anything.
It's hard because on the one hand, if you say "dude, I know all this already" you hurt their feelings, but if you don't, people perceive you as "the guy we're helping" and you get put into that role.
Our team leader is a 7.5 blonde (8.5/10 if she had nice big fake tits) and when the guy was telling me about meditation, she was like "yeah you can get an app for it, it's called "headspace" and I'm like "Yeah I already got it... but thanks tho"
Kind of dickish but meh, maybe it's DMSI autopilot.
Other than that, not a bad day in sales. We quit early because we ran out of streets. Our team leader didn't pick us up and instead got someone else to.
But yeah, not a bad day. I could have broke my personal record but alas. Next time.
EDIT: Oh yeah and we have weekly sales meetings where ALL the sales guys meet and we have talks and stuff. Anyhow, cute girl who has a BF in the company made a point to sit beside me, leaving her BF elsewhere. I wonder if she has her eye on me.
Thing is, I recognize the "mystery method" so, perhaps she's opening me in order to get that Australian guy I know.
He's super attractive, no homo. Until now, I've considered myself the most attractive guy, looks-wise, but he blows me out of the water. Tall, blonde, blue eyes, muscular, Australian accent that people absolutely ADORE over here.
So there's a possibility, but I choose to believe it's DMSI bringing her to me.