(12-31-2017, 11:52 AM)Raykon Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2017, 07:08 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Went out and did approaches today with 2 other guys (it's great, having guys who do pick up to hang with).
I approached 2 girls and got "WTF?" reactions on both occasions.
The second girl SMILED at me after I smirked at her. I approached her a few minutes later and got the "WTF?" reaction.
WTF indeed.
Meanwhile, the one guy got a number and is prolly going on a date, the aussie went on an instadate, made out with the girl, and is meeting her for a drink ATM.
Neither of them are on DMSI.
Aussie is taller than me, other guy is shorter than me (but has a sick style).
That is all.
What's your approach look like? For me, I go up to them stop them in there tracks even if that means jumping in front of them, then i say something like "Hi I was walking, and I saw you, and I thought you were pretty and wanted to come say hi, hi i'm Raykon" and I put my hand out to shake theres.
I did that 2 years ago. I'm doing it a little different now.
(12-31-2017, 11:52 AM)Raykon Wrote: [ -> ]Then I try and go into rapport building conversation and if humor is possible thats always good.
The key points is body language, eye contact STRONG and calm and slow speech, don't talk fast.
I always hold EC till she breaks first. Also, I don't talk very fast (the one girl yesterday interrupted me and talked super fast herself lol)
(12-31-2017, 11:52 AM)Raykon Wrote: [ -> ]and the questions you ask will make or break it.
one bad question for me and the girl loses interest almost immediately.
Message me your approach or post it on here. Or let me know how yours is.
I have decent success rate with this approach and it will get better as im practicing now and finally approaching more.
Sure I'll send you a pm.
Think I found a GREAT analogy for myself.
I'm currently watching "Transformation Mastery" by Julien of RSD infamy.
Anyhow, he talks about abundance and he likens it to being a video game player. He says, you can't find abundance in the game. It's something you the player have to have (the idea being, that it doesn't matter how good you are at the game, if you as a person are unfulfilled, you always will be). This is great, fantastic, and everything.
BUT
But... For someone like ME, it's the REVERSE!
I'm this guy who feels great about himself, but I want to play the game. I don't know how to play the game.
It doesn't matter how much inner peace and abundance I have, that inner peace and abundance will NEVER teach me how to kick ass at that game.
HENCE, I need to learn how to play the game.
Lol, that's, like, the only thing I've gotten out of this program so far. XD
(12-29-2017, 10:48 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]I'm lost again.
Getting good with women is so f*cking weird. You gotta be a certain way, but you gotta be congruent, but you gotta be congruent in a way the chick likes, not in a way she doesn't like, but you can't be a certain way to get chicks to like you or you're being desperate or try hard, but you can't "be yourself" because that hasn't worked your whole life.
F*CK!
I'm so confused and I can't do anything anymore. I feel like I'm caged.
All I'm looking for is a way to develop into an attractive, successful man that is congruent with who I am. Is that so hard?
Yes, turns out it is, because I've pretty much realized I'm NOT an attractive man unless I'm a mysterious wallflower, then people seem to flock to me like moths to flame but I have no idea why. And if I talk, they scatter. It's the weirdest shit ever.
FML
Same thing I have. Attractive body language but still internal issues so when I talk it fucks things up with women who were initially attracted, at least the hot ones.
(12-31-2017, 02:46 PM)Frosted Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2017, 10:48 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]I'm lost again.
Getting good with women is so f*cking weird. You gotta be a certain way, but you gotta be congruent, but you gotta be congruent in a way the chick likes, not in a way she doesn't like, but you can't be a certain way to get chicks to like you or you're being desperate or try hard, but you can't "be yourself" because that hasn't worked your whole life.
F*CK!
I'm so confused and I can't do anything anymore. I feel like I'm caged.
All I'm looking for is a way to develop into an attractive, successful man that is congruent with who I am. Is that so hard?
Yes, turns out it is, because I've pretty much realized I'm NOT an attractive man unless I'm a mysterious wallflower, then people seem to flock to me like moths to flame but I have no idea why. And if I talk, they scatter. It's the weirdest shit ever.
FML
Same thing I have. Attractive body language but still internal issues so when I talk it fucks things up with women who were initially attracted, at least the hot ones.
It's SO frustrsating.
If I just knew what they saw in me when I'm like that, perhaps I could give it to them. But alas, I think I'll never know.
(12-30-2017, 07:08 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Went out and did approaches today with 2 other guys (it's great, having guys who do pick up to hang with).
I approached 2 girls and got "WTF?" reactions on both occasions.
The second girl SMILED at me after I smirked at her. I approached her a few minutes later and got the "WTF?" reaction.
WTF indeed.
Meanwhile, the one guy got a number and is prolly going on a date, the aussie went on an instadate, made out with the girl, and is meeting her for a drink ATM.
Neither of them are on DMSI.
Aussie is taller than me, other guy is shorter than me (but has a sick style).
That is all.
Perhaps you should tell us what you said. It's easy to see where another goes wrong but we have a hard time seeing our own flaws. We are too close to ourselves.
(12-31-2017, 06:59 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2017, 07:08 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: [ -> ]Went out and did approaches today with 2 other guys (it's great, having guys who do pick up to hang with).
I approached 2 girls and got "WTF?" reactions on both occasions.
The second girl SMILED at me after I smirked at her. I approached her a few minutes later and got the "WTF?" reaction.
WTF indeed.
Meanwhile, the one guy got a number and is prolly going on a date, the aussie went on an instadate, made out with the girl, and is meeting her for a drink ATM.
Neither of them are on DMSI.
Aussie is taller than me, other guy is shorter than me (but has a sick style).
That is all.
Perhaps you should tell us what you said. It's easy to see where another goes wrong but we have a hard time seeing our own flaws. We are too close to ourselves.
It's cool man. I got some pick up guys I confer with when it comes to that stuff.
I was mostly posting for the fact that, despite being on DMSI, these other 2 guys had more success.
Still, I didn't approach as many girls as they did. Aussie said he approached like 5-6 girls before he went on that date. But he ended up f*cking her that night. Crazy shit. That's the level I want to be at, only without having to take a whole day to do it.
With DMSI I guess I thought I wouldn't be getting such bad reactions.
Well, you'll hear about me accomplishing some wild and amazing things, just watch.
(12-31-2017, 08:22 PM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]Well, you'll hear about me accomplishing some wild and amazing things, just watch.
I have no doubt Ray!
Happy New Year!
Once I start working on my goals and get results, I'll keep you updated by private messaging. Because I cant open a journal here without using a subliminal.
Happy New Year !
(01-01-2018, 01:26 AM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]Once I start working on my goals and get results, I'll keep you updated by private messaging. Because I cant open a journal here without using a subliminal.
Happy New Year !
Sounds great Ray, I look forward to it!
Had tons of dreams last night of me having sex with girls and blasting loads left right and center. I thought for sure I'd have had a wet dream, but I didn't.
I am probably not going to send private msgs to let you know how much I have changed, I'll write it directly in your journal.
(01-02-2018, 08:39 AM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: [ -> ]I am probably not going to send private msgs to let you know how much I have changed, I'll write it directly in your journal.
Lol, no you won't. If you want to journal your progress, make a journal. If you want to PM me, that is fine, but you are not invited to spam my journal with your posts.
Now then...
Today I tried a new form of game which is basically you just be social with everyone! Yay!
Except I'm not social with everyone so I just ended up doing laps in the mall.
BUT, I had some good convos with some sales associates, but they don't count because they're paid to talk to potential customers.
Anyhow, the hard part is being social when you aren't. Seriously.
I tried to just do my own thing and amuse myself, but I was getting bored.
I felt very warm tho, I think DMSI aura was on. Got a few compliments from sales people but, then again, they probably just want a sale.
Still, the aura was definitely firing. Had 2 girls sit beside me on the bus but after a short time, both of them got out of the seat and went to another one (the bus was pretty much empty so they definitely sat beside me on purpose, and left on purpose)