Subliminal Talk

Just gotta vent for a second.

So yesterday my brother told me he and my mom went to a movie. Which is fine, however this movie I saw with my brother and my mom asked me about it.

I knew there was a part in it she wouldn't like and that would disturb her. I told her so. Yet she goes anyways. And, of course, my brother says she was disturbed by the part in question.

Like seriously, wtf? She's done this forever.

I imagine if I could figure out that kind of behaviour I'd be much closer to being better with people in general.

Decided to return that book and talk to the manager. I don't get the feeling it did anything at all.

Post #47-72...All you, Sarge! Might as well rename this journal, "DMSI 3.1 - Crickets!"

Sorry, had to break your posting streak and give you a 'lil shit.

(09-29-2017, 10:48 AM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]Post #47-72...All you, Sarge! Might as well rename this journal, "DMSI 3.1 - Crickets!"

Sorry, had to break your posting streak and give you a 'lil shit.

Lol.

You know who your friends are when they support you even while you're not winning.

Thanks RT.

Lots of good discussion on the forums today.

As for me, had a definite DMSI manifestation.

Was headed to the library to do some printing.

As I'm walking towards the door, I see this HOT Arab woman in a miniskirt and colorful top pacing aimlessly, but slowly.

We noticed each other and she was smiling, a LOT. I smiled back, said "Hey! How are you?"

She said "Good!" but nothing further.

I went inside.

As I'm doing my printing I notice her, she had come into the library (following me?) and we stared at each other for a moment before she broke EC and walked elsewhere.

I finished my printing, then walked out into the building (the library is in a building, so you have to walk through that building before you're in the library).

Sure enough, the woman is out there, still looking aimless.

At this point I feel like she might need help but i didn't want to offer help because I wanted to have sex with her and that would be sleezy (to offer help just because I wanted to sleep with her) so I just went over to where she was.

She smiled again and so did I, she broke EC and went to look at some magazines on a shelf.

I went over there to do the same, attempting to do a hover then open.

She left as soon as I got there.

I watched her reflection in the window and she just walked away so i thought "Oh well, guess that's that"

And walked away. I didn't want to chase, nor did I want to be creepy.

I know you have to risk creepy but I dunno.

I got the feeling maybe she needed help and she would just use her charms to get that help from me then blow me off, if I'm completely honest, that was my main fear.

Anyhow, it's a shame. Hot as FUCK arab woman. Very very nice, totally a "type" of mine.

Since then I've been thinking about DMSI all day and maybe we need more caring like RT says.

I mean, I feel like maybe sex is taking the precedence, but I also don't want to turn into a provider, you know? So it's complicated.

Just like with my hairdresser when things were near the beginning. After our third date and how I thought maybe she was afraid I just wanted sex from her.

But then I thought to myself "what's wrong with wanting to have sex with someone? Does there have to be a 'price' you pay aside from sharing some sexual adventures?"

I still think sex for sex is fair, and one shouldn't have to be a white knight or give something to a girl just to get access to her pussy.

So while I'm disappointed nothing became of that arab woman and I, I don't think i would have played it any differently, except maybe ask her "enjoying your evening?" next time.

You can't be worried about what she's thinking about you when she walks away. Will you ever see her again? Not likely.

If you're looking to fuck her, it's about being around her....more. You don't have to seduce her, especially since we're on DMSI. What you may have to do, at this point, is just get her to orbit you. That means creating opportunities where you see her MORE.

Ultimately, we're looking for them to create that space and opportunity. It's coming. I can feel it.

(09-29-2017, 07:55 PM)RTBoss Wrote: [ -> ]You can't be worried about what she's thinking about you when she walks away. Will you ever see her again? Not likely.

If you're looking to **** her, it's about being around her....more. You don't have to seduce her, especially since we're on DMSI. What you may have to do, at this point, is just get her to orbit you. That means creating opportunities where you see her MORE.

Ultimately, we're looking for them to create that space and opportunity. It's coming. I can feel it.

Well that's what I was doing. Going around her to give her the chance to "acclimate" to me. Didn't seem to work (I'm not saying it WON'T work, and maybe I should have stayed longer, but I didn't feel like hanging around like a puppy waiting for it's master to pet it, you know? I was doing errands at the time anyways.).

Anyhow I agree about things "coming". Been having some MASSIVE shifts in my thinking and behavior lately. I LOVE ver A. Seriously.

Still, some things are in dire straights atm. Hoping everything gets pulled out of the fire just in time. Sooner would be better however.

Btw, got a butt display today, and took video. Uploading and will post screen caps in a few minutes.

Stay tuned!

EDIT:

Ok here's the story:

The girl was in the passenger seat of her guy's car. They were both in the parking spot for picking up groceries just like me, and were to my left (as you can tell from the pics):





She stood like that for longer than 10 minutes! She did that while talking to the guy.

Very cool. That's more towards how girls with gujys should behave towards a DMSI user: give him the sex while distracting the guy.

It was like a metaphor lol.

Anyhow, I took the video despite the fact that it was likely I was being very obvious about it.

EDIT 2: apologies for the bad quality btw. It was actually quite bright out, but my phone camera sucks.

As mentioned in shannon's journal, mods (or Ben) please move this jounral to: http://subliminal-talk.com/Forum-Experim...s-Feedback

As this journal is about using an expirimental sub. Thanks

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ION, had some odd reactions from people in sales but got an app with no persistance required.

it's cause I'm following "Way of the Wolf".

Seriously, I cannot stress how powerful this shit is.

If one could adapt it to PUA/seduction (i.e. "goal oriented seduction") there'd be no stopping the user.

IMHO this is what DMSI needs. Strongly urge Shannon to read it and see if there's a way.

Who knows? He may find ways to improve his own sales as well.

The problem with that is, it's in the mens 18+ section now and that is a family safe section so isn't suitable for journals that are talking about sex and such. Most journals for DMSI are here and that's fine.

And a comment on what you last said, it would be way more powerful if it could purge all pua bs and instead get you totally connected with yourself instead as per what John Cooper talks about.

(09-30-2017, 05:01 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]The problem with that is, it's in the mens 18+ section now and that is a family safe section so isn't suitable for journals that are talking about sex and such. Most journals for DMSI are here and that's fine.

Oh I see. Ok then.

I just wanted to remove confusion but it is what it is.

(09-30-2017, 05:01 PM)Benjamin Wrote: [ -> ]And a comment on what you last said, it would be way more powerful if it could purge all pua bs and instead get you totally connected with yourself instead as per what John Cooper talks about.

Not sure I agree with this.

Keep in mind: I don't know John Cooper, but I do know Jordan belfort ("Way of the Wolf"/Straight Line of Persuasion) and I can tell you it's 100% NOT about being fake or anything like that, if that is your concern.

I'd argue PUA stuff isn't either (One of the things that has helped me most was Tyler saying that social conversations are about elevating mood. That's not a "trick", it's just the way it is)

So THAT'S what I'm talking about.

Not talking about PUA FAKENESS, talking about PUA insights that are TRUE (like that example by Tyler).

And in line with that book by Jordan Belfort, I can guaruntee you you won't be able to sell ANYTHING if it comes from a fake place. Nothing.

You gotta be genuine.

HOWEVER, you can be genuine and still do things in the wrong "form".

Like going to the gym, you're always genuine but maybe you don't know the right form, till you injure yourself and find out you've been doing the wrong form.

It's the same thing.

I know you have an axe to grind against PUA, but let's not pretend that it isn't true that some things work and some things don't when it comes to women.

That's all I'm saying.

I'd like to take you out to do door to door sales sometime Ben (or anyone) and have you do it in a natural way, then have you indulge me and try it the Straight Line way. You'll be blown away how much more successful you will be.

I don't believe for one second that picking up girls doesn't have the same laws at play. Because women are people, and people are influenced by certain things more than others.

Thoughts on how to improve DMSI:

Robert Cialdini (author of "Influence") says:

The strongest relationships are built not on one-sided value, but the ability for both members to be able to contribute to the other.

Perhaps dmsi is a bit one-sided...

Exact same thing as what happens on potential dates. My mom and I had plans to hang out but now she's flaking. Lol. Its eerie.

sarge when you run it do you get a morphine effect people say they get???