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(03-31-2016, 03:55 AM)Nox Wrote: [ -> ]So far the main theme of this journal seems to be your butt. This is an excellent journal.

This made me laugh so hard I almost choked. Thanks, Nox.
Hahahaha. If more people made threads about their butt the world would be a happier place.
(03-31-2016, 02:05 PM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-31-2016, 03:55 AM)Nox Wrote: [ -> ]So far the main theme of this journal seems to be your butt. This is an excellent journal.

This made me laugh so hard I almost choked. Thanks, Nox.

I'm here to help! Smile lol
(03-30-2016, 06:20 PM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]If you don't mind me asking what are passionate about? And why not make it living? What are happy about?

So everyone agrees on happiness instead of passion, and I got a bunch of fears.

Things I am passionate about. And why not make it a living.
Photography. I did make an income from it for 22 years until camera's in cell phones became the norm. Now everyone, anyone can take a photo.

Massage Therapy for 23 years. Still doing it for an income, however I only massage clean people (no body odor). You'd be amazed how many people have poor hygiene.

Trading financial markets. Currently trying to master this. I will be employed at my current workplace for 29 years in June 2016. The plan is to stay there until 2022. Only 6 years to go until a full retirement.

Spending the day outside at a sunny park under the shade can make me happy. Volunteering my time towards a charity can make me happy. Hearing children play can make me happy.

At one time, the 3 things that I'm passionate about were things that made me happy and I found a way to turn my hobby into an income for the first 2. Now I'm focused on the 3rd.

Look for free classes or free seminars. When someone offers to show you something, listen to what they have to say.

Sometimes your passion finds you.
Passion 1. My grandfather gave me a camera when I was 7. He told me to keep taking pictures until I became good at it.

Passion 2. I was rear ended in a car accident. After having neck and back pain for two years. One five minute massage from a professional massage therapist took away the pain. So I decided to go to school and help others with pain.

Passion 3. I got a letter in the mail to attend a free seminar. I bought the product they were selling for $5000. Got burned, lost all the money I saved. Still, I wondered how some people were able to make a living from it. You can with the proper training and discipline.

One girl I know, her passion is yoga. She is always trying to get me to go to her class.
@Nox
An excellent journal indeed.

@Benjamin
I have have made the world and these forums a better place.lol My job is done.

@Matt
I just draw crappy cartoon creatures. I don't like graphic design. I'm into digital art. though.

@4Kingdoms
I get where you coming from now. You did make your passion a living but it changed over time.
Thanks for sharing.

I can't think of anything ground breaking to report. Soooo next time.
Yesterday was interesting. Went to the store and got more looks than usual. I don't handle attention well especially when it's more than I'm used to so I wanted to shrink away and hide.

My mom told me something yesterday that made me realize that I'm still way to dependent on other people. I need to work on that.

I saw a special needs person in the store and almost cried. I kept thinking about how the world can be cruel at times and why couldn't anything be done to help him. I just felt really sorry for him and his caretaker.

My dad came over and felt guilty for calling him for months.

Other than that much to report.
(04-03-2016, 06:28 AM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]Yesterday was interesting. Went to the store and got more looks than usual. I don't handle attention well especially when it's more than I'm used to so I wanted to shrink away and hide.

E2 is creating a "Loving" vibe that you are giving off. People are going to be drawn to that.

(04-03-2016, 06:28 AM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]My mom told me something yesterday that made me realize that I'm still way to dependent on other people. I need to work on that.

E2 has made me more independent. E2 helped me get out of toxic friendships.
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7145-p...#pid105128
(03-26-2016, 03:42 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]I was codependent with friendships that were toxic. In the past when I voiced my displeasure, their response was "4Kingdoms, you expect too much." After thinking about that statement over and over. Instead of saying (You're right, I expect too much) I said to myself (Why not? There's nothing wrong with that!) Whether or not my friends understand, I say hello and keep them at an arm's distance.
(04-03-2016, 10:36 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 06:28 AM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]Yesterday was interesting. Went to the store and got more looks than usual. I don't handle attention well especially when it's more than I'm used to so I wanted to shrink away and hide.

E2 is creating a "Loving" vibe that you are giving off. People are going to be drawn to that.

(04-03-2016, 06:28 AM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]My mom told me something yesterday that made me realize that I'm still way to dependent on other people. I need to work on that.

E2 has made me more independent. E2 helped me get out of toxic friendships.
http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7145-p...#pid105128
(03-26-2016, 03:42 PM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]I was codependent with friendships that were toxic. In the past when I voiced my displeasure, their response was "4Kingdoms, you expect too much." After thinking about that statement over and over. Instead of saying (You're right, I expect too much) I said to myself (Why not? There's nothing wrong with that!) Whether or not my friends understand, I say hello and keep them at an arm's distance.

Hmmm..........a loving vibe.Maybe at that moment.
I hope to become more independent using this sub.'

Apparently I treat people closest to me like shit. My Dad and sister told me at different times. I think my mom thinks so too but indirectly tells me. Usually this would go straight over my head but now I know that they are right.

The only problem is right now I don't feel like dealing with it and am questioning do I want to. how it I'm also questioning do I really love them or have I been forcing myself to all these years. I felt dread just having to listen to them say how hurt they were. In a strange way I cared a little but not a whole lot. As usual I sat in silence as they told me what was going on. I did the usual crying but it will be the same. I'll continue to be a bitch while everyone else walks on egg shells trying not to offend me.

Actually right now it seems like not dealing with it is the better option. I know it fucked up I should care more but I'm having an incredibly difficult time doing so. I'm feeling even more cold and emotionless than usual.

I know how to like people. At least I think I do. Not so sure about loving someone sadly.

I'm going to bed early.
(04-03-2016, 05:47 PM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently I treat people closest to me like shit. My Dad and sister told me at different times. I think my mom thinks so too but indirectly tells me. Usually this would go straight over my head but now I know that they are right.

Whew... you acknowledged that they are right!! Takes guts to admit that!!! Sounds like you are ready to deal with it.

The best part is... you are already listening to EHPRA 2.0 and you are already in the process of healing.

Just so that I'm clear. I'm not sure if EHPRA 2.0 makes you into a loving person. What is clear is you are giving off a loving vibe. Hope that makes sense. I've become more forgiving of other people's (how can I put this nicely) um... stupidity. Ok, I'll stop...
(04-04-2016, 04:28 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 05:47 PM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently I treat people closest to me like shit. My Dad and sister told me at different times. I think my mom thinks so too but indirectly tells me. Usually this would go straight over my head but now I know that they are right.

Whew... you acknowledged that they are right!! Takes guts to admit that!!! Sounds like you are ready to deal with it.

The best part is... you are already listening to EHPRA 2.0 and you are already in the process of healing.

Just so that I'm clear. I'm not sure if EHPRA 2.0 makes you into a loving person. What is clear is you are giving off a loving vibe. Hope that makes sense. I've become more forgiving of other people's (how can I put this nicely) um... stupidity. Ok, I'll stop...
I guessHuh I don't think it takes guts and just admitting it doesn't mean I'll deal with it.
I thought you had to be a loving person to give off a loving vibeHuh or at least feel loving in that moment.
And you don't have to stop.Smile

Today I was going thinking about how I didn't have to apologize for me hurting other peoples feelings and how those people don't consider my feelings. Now I got to fake to nice to people so their feelings don't get hurt. The usual back and forth mental garbage. Suddenly I felt like something had been released. Whatever happened is in the past. I can only focus on what can be done now. I'm not trying to rush to make it better either. This is going to take time to heal.

Went to my sisters and instead of feeling uncomfortable I felt welcome. Never would have thought that would happen.

Still nothing groundbreaking to report though. At least nothing external.Confused
(04-04-2016, 05:43 PM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 04:28 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 05:47 PM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently I treat people closest to me like shit. My Dad and sister told me at different times. I think my mom thinks so too but indirectly tells me. Usually this would go straight over my head but now I know that they are right.

Whew... you acknowledged that they are right!! Takes guts to admit that!!! Sounds like you are ready to deal with it.

The best part is... you are already listening to EHPRA 2.0 and you are already in the process of healing.

Just so that I'm clear. I'm not sure if EHPRA 2.0 makes you into a loving person. What is clear is you are giving off a loving vibe. Hope that makes sense. I've become more forgiving of other people's (how can I put this nicely) um... stupidity. Ok, I'll stop...
I guessHuh I don't think it takes guts and just admitting it doesn't mean I'll deal with it.
I thought you had to be a loving person to give off a loving vibeHuh or at least feel loving in that moment.
And you don't have to stop.Smile

Today I was going thinking about how I didn't have to apologize for me hurting other peoples feelings and how those people don't consider my feelings. Now I got to fake to nice to people so their feelings don't get hurt. The usual back and forth mental garbage. Suddenly I felt like something had been released. Whatever happened is in the past. I can only focus on what can be done now. I'm not trying to rush to make it better either. This is going to take time to heal.

Went to my sisters and instead of feeling uncomfortable I felt welcome. Never would have thought that would happen.

Still nothing groundbreaking to report though. At least nothing external.Confused

"Now I got to fake to nice to people so their feelings don't get hurt."

Are you normally 'not nice' to these people?

EPRHA 2 is awesome but don't expect massive changes, or even for changes to be instantly apparent. A lot of the EPRHA users on here were already well into long runs before switching to version 2. So a lot of ground work had already been done, and I'm talking about months in some cases.

I had been doing EPRHA for 4 months before switching to V2, and it was a really challenging run. Switching to V2 for me has really given the run a turbo boost, and made things easier. But I can imagine going straight into EPRHA 2 would also be very challenging!! (maybe more so than v1)?
(04-05-2016, 05:51 AM)ArcticFox Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 05:43 PM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 04:28 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 05:47 PM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently I treat people closest to me like shit. My Dad and sister told me at different times. I think my mom thinks so too but indirectly tells me. Usually this would go straight over my head but now I know that they are right.

Whew... you acknowledged that they are right!! Takes guts to admit that!!! Sounds like you are ready to deal with it.

The best part is... you are already listening to EHPRA 2.0 and you are already in the process of healing.

Just so that I'm clear. I'm not sure if EHPRA 2.0 makes you into a loving person. What is clear is you are giving off a loving vibe. Hope that makes sense. I've become more forgiving of other people's (how can I put this nicely) um... stupidity. Ok, I'll stop...
I guessHuh I don't think it takes guts and just admitting it doesn't mean I'll deal with it.
I thought you had to be a loving person to give off a loving vibeHuh or at least feel loving in that moment.
And you don't have to stop.Smile

Today I was going thinking about how I didn't have to apologize for me hurting other peoples feelings and how those people don't consider my feelings. Now I got to fake to nice to people so their feelings don't get hurt. The usual back and forth mental garbage. Suddenly I felt like something had been released. Whatever happened is in the past. I can only focus on what can be done now. I'm not trying to rush to make it better either. This is going to take time to heal.

Went to my sisters and instead of feeling uncomfortable I felt welcome. Never would have thought that would happen.

Still nothing groundbreaking to report though. At least nothing external.Confused

"Now I got to fake to nice to people so their feelings don't get hurt."

Are you normally 'not nice' to these people?

EPRHA 2 is awesome but don't expect massive changes, or even for changes to be instantly apparent. A lot of the EPRHA users on here were already well into long runs before switching to version 2. So a lot of ground work had already been done, and I'm talking about months in some cases.

I had been doing EPRHA for 4 months before switching to V2, and it was a really challenging run. Switching to V2 for me has really given the run a turbo boost, and made things easier. But I can imagine going straight into EPRHA 2 would also be very challenging!! (maybe more so than v1)?

Why wouldn't you expect massive changes? EHPRA 2.0 is designed to tunnel down for as long as you use it until it has prompted you to heal everything back to Day 1. And why would it be harder than V1, when it's designed to be much, much easier and more enjoyable? You guys who started off doing V1, you can't compare the two. V2 is so far ahead of and beyond V1 that it's not easy to compare them. You're not going to understand all of what it's doing until down the road when you look back and see the massive shift you made in life to a better and happier life and self because of it. Most of what it's doing is designed to be subtle and "under the hood" so you don't experience trauma in dealing with, healing and overcoming it. It's about like a nuclear submarine, and you see the conning tower, but the rest remains submerged, and it's pushing millions of tons of water around to do that 30 knots it's doing almost fully submerged. You may not see it on the surface, but it's having a huge impact and your whole life is being improved forever because of it. It just takes time.

I would say that in WhySoSerious' case here it's bringing her to awareness of what needs to change, but it's not going to all happen at once. Awareness is the first step, and she'll take the speed and course that is right for her.

EHPRA 2.0 is incredibly powerful. I just had to hide most of that power from the conscious awareness to keep the program as safe and effective as possible.
(04-05-2016, 11:16 AM)Shannon Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-05-2016, 05:51 AM)ArcticFox Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 05:43 PM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-04-2016, 04:28 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-03-2016, 05:47 PM)Why So Serious? Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently I treat people closest to me like shit. My Dad and sister told me at different times. I think my mom thinks so too but indirectly tells me. Usually this would go straight over my head but now I know that they are right.

Whew... you acknowledged that they are right!! Takes guts to admit that!!! Sounds like you are ready to deal with it.

The best part is... you are already listening to EHPRA 2.0 and you are already in the process of healing.

Just so that I'm clear. I'm not sure if EHPRA 2.0 makes you into a loving person. What is clear is you are giving off a loving vibe. Hope that makes sense. I've become more forgiving of other people's (how can I put this nicely) um... stupidity. Ok, I'll stop...
I guessHuh I don't think it takes guts and just admitting it doesn't mean I'll deal with it.
I thought you had to be a loving person to give off a loving vibeHuh or at least feel loving in that moment.
And you don't have to stop.Smile

Today I was going thinking about how I didn't have to apologize for me hurting other peoples feelings and how those people don't consider my feelings. Now I got to fake to nice to people so their feelings don't get hurt. The usual back and forth mental garbage. Suddenly I felt like something had been released. Whatever happened is in the past. I can only focus on what can be done now. I'm not trying to rush to make it better either. This is going to take time to heal.

Went to my sisters and instead of feeling uncomfortable I felt welcome. Never would have thought that would happen.

Still nothing groundbreaking to report though. At least nothing external.Confused

"Now I got to fake to nice to people so their feelings don't get hurt."

Are you normally 'not nice' to these people?

EPRHA 2 is awesome but don't expect massive changes, or even for changes to be instantly apparent. A lot of the EPRHA users on here were already well into long runs before switching to version 2. So a lot of ground work had already been done, and I'm talking about months in some cases.

I had been doing EPRHA for 4 months before switching to V2, and it was a really challenging run. Switching to V2 for me has really given the run a turbo boost, and made things easier. But I can imagine going straight into EPRHA 2 would also be very challenging!! (maybe more so than v1)?

Why wouldn't you expect massive changes? EHPRA 2.0 is designed to tunnel down for as long as you use it until it has prompted you to heal everything back to Day 1. And why would it be harder than V1, when it's designed to be much, much easier and more enjoyable? You guys who started off doing V1, you can't compare the two. V2 is so far ahead of and beyond V1 that it's not easy to compare them. You're not going to understand all of what it's doing until down the road when you look back and see the massive shift you made in life to a better and happier life and self because of it. Most of what it's doing is designed to be subtle and "under the hood" so you don't experience trauma in dealing with, healing and overcoming it. It's about like a nuclear submarine, and you see the conning tower, but the rest remains submerged, and it's pushing millions of tons of water around to do that 30 knots it's doing almost fully submerged. You may not see it on the surface, but it's having a huge impact and your whole life is being improved forever because of it. It just takes time.

I would say that in WhySoSerious' case here it's bringing her to awareness of what needs to change, but it's not going to all happen at once. Awareness is the first step, and she'll take the speed and course that is right for her.

EHPRA 2.0 is incredibly powerful. I just had to hide most of that power from the conscious awareness to keep the program as safe and effective as possible.

Sorry my wording was poor, what I meant was don't expect to see massive changes. I didn't mean for that to be interpreted as "you wont get massive changes from V2"

I don't have experience going straight into V2, so your right I cant really comment. But going straight into a 5G V1 was no picnic. I'm just trying to help manage expectations, I would consider myself naive if i believed everything was going to be all positive going straight into V2 EPRHA.
@ArcticFox
Normally I do my best to be nice, but these last few years have been difficult. Don't no what happened there. That's where faking being nice comes from.
Ummm....I'm not expecting this to be easy.
I know what version 1 was like. I quit and did AF for a year. The resistance was much worse than EPRHA V1 so I know it isn't a cake walk. There is still resistance in EPRHA v2 but it isn't as bad. At least for now.
I know it's going to take time. I can impatient with myself at times which doesn't help. Yesterday was one of those days. I'm okay with taking my time figuring this out everyone else not so much.


I am talking a bit more and I'm not feeling guilty about being a quiet person. I don't have as much fear asking the bosses questions at work whether their in a good mood or not.

Still procrastinating on college. I made a couple of calls and everything is good to go just need to take the first step and apply. Yep the first step........only a few clicks away........Yep

Still not sure how to handle the family and close friends situation. It feels like everybody else wants it fixed in a day. Like if we have one conversation it will be fixed automatically.>_> Yeah shit like this doesn't happen over night. I'll have to find a away to explain this when the time comes.
I'm learning to forgive myself about what happened in the past when it comes to this situation. That's a first.
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