It appears we will be swapping subs then. I'm reflecting over which sub I'd like to do after E 2 and BASE is suddenly looking attractive again. My E 2 run should end around the latter half of August, but I need to jump out of the complacent zone which E 2 has gently inched me into so I can attack my new copy biz with full force.
One thing though, that i hope somewhat carries over from E 2 is the incredible emotional resilience i have right now. It's pretty remarkable and was consistently lacking in the way i feel it now with BASE. I was resilient in a different way with BASE; more of a sort of aggressive and emotionally charged "I can do this" sort of way. But the calm, collected way i feel right now is sort of needed when shit goes down and everything feels like a challenge (which is sort of my situation right now, though I'm dealing with it extraordinarily well - or at least I think i am).
I know the BASE 6G or whatever future upgrade happens is a long way off, but I think the sub should be better constructed to enable us to be consistently motivated while also being in full emotional control. If i had the proper motivation in the current state I'm in the right I have no doubt that I would be an absolute wrecking ball once my copy biz starts up. I think clearly when i know my emotions are tamed, and I'm convinced general entrepreneurship needs that in order to ride out the various storms when they hit. But i just didn't see that emotional control / resilience combination while i used BASE. After E 2, however, I really hope my experience will be different if indeed I do get back on BASE.
**It would actually be pretty remarkable if BASE was just updated to include E 2. I'm not sure if that conflicts with the goals or anything but I just can't get over how I literally feel like i have two pieces of the entrepreneur game right in my hands - E 2 and BASE - and yet they're completely separate programs.
I can definitely relate to a lot of your points too.
The aggressive "I can do this" mentality is great fun and very practical, but three rounds of BASE and I still sometimes experience an underlying feeling of insecurity. At least in my case, that turned out to be the source of my aggression and it turns out I "can do this" much better without it, lol. (not that I've completely gotten rid of it though, it still comes up but its influence is getting weaker)
(07-06-2016, 09:53 PM)heavysm Wrote: [ -> ]**It would actually be pretty remarkable if BASE was just updated to include E 2. I'm not sure if that conflicts with the goals or anything but I just can't get over how I literally feel like i have two pieces of the entrepreneur game right in my hands - E 2 and BASE - and yet they're completely separate programs.
I've been thinking the same thing ever since I got a taste of E2. It would definitely fit right in with BASE. I would gladly do a fourth round of BASE 5G, but the EPRHA 1.0 in it, as good as it is, doesn't really compare. I'd be following your journey with interest though, whatever you choose.
Anyway, if I'm not mistaken, Shannon has mentioned Ultra Success 5.5G will probably come out after MHS and GPR. If it gets to include E2 (and who knows what else) I'd gladly choose it over another run of BASE personally. BASE after E2 sounds nice, but given the chance I'd choose the sub that gives me constant E2 exposure. Although there's no guarantee that after E2 I won't go with AOSI/DMSI for entirely different reasons, lol.
I agree that emotional balance and resilience should be the main thing to improve in the next version of BASE. Regarding your motivation issue, I think I know too well what you're talking about, although I am getting the feeling that the polymorphic aspect of BASE is the one that needs improving. (and I'm counting on all the 5.5G/6G tech to make that happen) I don't seem to be able to find the right type of business for my skills and personality type, although copywriting does come close... but still, something seems a bit off to me for some reason. The motivation programming itself actually seems to be working really well for me when what I'm doing is aligned with my values and personality, but too often this seems to not be the case for me.
I'm actually pretty sure that if/when i start BASE back again that I'll still be left wanting more. But I anticipate that feeling and have prepared for it. Unless BASE becomes a 5.5/6G program I just don't see even 3 - 4 runs with it really cementing in the programming since there's just soooo much to take in.
It's like using a weak magnet to pick up A LOT of metal shavings; you might have to pass the magnet over a bunch of times and even then some of those shavings might be too heavy for the magnet to pick up. The solution? A bigger and more effective magnet. And I'm pretty sure that's what BASE needs; that 5.5/6G upgrade to make it more effective.
One of the reasons I am attracted back to BASE is that I almost feel some of the abundance programming slipping a bit. Worthiness for the income I was making in the past few months has become a question, and E 2 doesn't target anything like that, so I think the programming needs a refresher. The downside is that I might lose my emotional resilience and control.
It also almost feels like a waste to do any other subs aside from DMSI and E 2...because 5.5G is just that damn good lol I've also had thoughts of getting on the DMSI bandwagon, but right now I can't think with my dick; I really have to get my empire settled before I concentrate on extracurricular activities if that makes sense.
(07-07-2016, 05:57 PM)heavysm Wrote: [ -> ]I'm actually pretty sure that if/when i start BASE back again that I'll still be left wanting more. But I anticipate that feeling and have prepared for it. Unless BASE becomes a 5.5/6G program I just don't see even 3 - 4 runs with it really cementing in the programming since there's just soooo much to take in.
It's like using a weak magnet to pick up A LOT of metal shavings; you might have to pass the magnet over a bunch of times and even then some of those shavings might be too heavy for the magnet to pick up. The solution? A bigger and more effective magnet. And I'm pretty sure that's what BASE needs; that 5.5/6G upgrade to make it more effective.
One of the reasons I am attracted back to BASE is that I almost feel some of the abundance programming slipping a bit. Worthiness for the income I was making in the past few months has become a question, and E 2 doesn't target anything like that, so I think the programming needs a refresher. The downside is that I might lose my emotional resilience and control.
It also almost feels like a waste to do any other subs aside from DMSI and E 2...because 5.5G is just that damn good lol I've also had thoughts of getting on the DMSI bandwagon, but right now I can't think with my dick; I really have to get my empire settled before I concentrate on extracurricular activities if that makes sense.
While I do agree with your magnet analogy, being that there's just so much of BASE to take in, I don't agree with your sentiment on E2. I do believe E2 targets any kind of worthiness you may have, though obviously BASE would more effectively attack this target, due to the similarities in the actual goal. And also, I think both E2 and BASE (hell, even AM6!) all help to smooth the rough around the edges as far as emotional resilience and control. This goal is important in any endeavor we take in life, and yes although E2 might be the best provider of this emotional resilience and control, it's not to say BASE lacks it. AM6 definitely has it.
We all seem to have this interpretation that there's too much to take in, in regards to BASE. I wonder if it's because the sales page is written the way it is? Thereby providing some form of confirmation bias.... In the big picture view of BASE2.1 5G: it is a 5G six stage program, just like SM3 and AM6, both of which have provided me solid results. BASE 2.1 was released AFTER the previous two programs, so it's technology is slightly increased, with the notable feature likely being the polymorphic aura. What if it's really NOT too much for us to take in, and is just like the other six stage programs, which also we generally understand that takes 2-3 runs for maximum permanence?
I dunno, just providing a different perspective here, as it seems there's a general negative view around BASE
I'm finishing my third run in about two weeks actually.
I can actually feel the internal programming as permanent and self-reinforcing. I have multiple sources of income and at least one more on the way. For me, the disappointment in where I'm at is not a lack of financial success as much as that it feels forced and unnatural to me to a large degree.
I'm not being challenged to grow as a person in the ways that I like, and for me this has largely been the reason I would do anything in life for as long as I can remember. Grinding would likely produce better results in my current situation, but I generally tend to enjoy having more variety in what I do. I have a few entrepreneur friends, who (in their own words) get confused by variety and who vastly prefer the grinding. (ENTJs all of them)
More power to them, but my natural patterns of behavior are different. I'm yet to find out how my qualities and flaws (ENTP) fit within the entrepreneurial lifestyle in a way that's deeply fulfilling to me. E2 has a module about getting your life in a way that boosts your self-esteem - a big part of why I'm running E2 next.
(07-08-2016, 08:02 AM)eternitys_child Wrote: [ -> ]While I do agree with your magnet analogy, being that there's just so much of BASE to take in, I don't agree with your sentiment on E2. I do believe E2 targets any kind of worthiness you may have, though obviously BASE would more effectively attack this target, due to the similarities in the actual goal. And also, I think both E2 and BASE (hell, even AM6!) all help to smooth the rough around the edges as far as emotional resilience and control. This goal is important in any endeavor we take in life, and yes although E2 might be the best provider of this emotional resilience and control, it's not to say BASE lacks it. AM6 definitely has it.
We all seem to have this interpretation that there's too much to take in, in regards to BASE. I wonder if it's because the sales page is written the way it is? Thereby providing some form of confirmation bias.... In the big picture view of BASE2.1 5G: it is a 5G six stage program, just like SM3 and AM6, both of which have provided me solid results. BASE 2.1 was released AFTER the previous two programs, so it's technology is slightly increased, with the notable feature likely being the polymorphic aura. What if it's really NOT too much for us to take in, and is just like the other six stage programs, which also we generally understand that takes 2-3 runs for maximum permanence?
I dunno, just providing a different perspective here, as it seems there's a general negative view around BASE
For me at least it feels as if BASE does lack the proper emotional resilience and control. I didn't see anything remotely close to the emotional resilience with BASE that i feel with E 2. Granted it could easily be that i need 2 - 3 more runs with BASE, but now that I feel what I was missing it definitely feels as if BASE hardly even touched that aspect.
Also keep in mind that I am willing to rerun BASE at least 1 more time. Right now I'm just acknowledging the possible limitations. From the first run I can cite about 50 - 60% of its modules that i can consciously detect an effect with. Maybe I feel the remaining 40 - 50% on remaining runs, who knows.
I'm also wondering if some of the modules need to be updated or something, because I've heard Shannon mention that the lesser performing scripts will need to be redone when BASE gets an upgrade (way far in the future).
Don't get me wrong though, BASE helped me build up an entirely new business from scratch so it definitely packs a punch. I'm just hoping my next run (or 2) opens the gates a little bit more considering I have yet another business to start up and establish very soon.
(07-08-2016, 08:50 AM)Ivaylo Wrote: [ -> ]I have multiple sources of income
This one of the main reasons why I might be sticking with BASE.
I don't mean to hog up this thread with my posts, but since most of us here business oriented - and I'll generally assume online business oriented - here is a book that struck a cord for me recently that i think you all might get something out of:
10 pillars of wealth by Alex Becker
You might have heard of it from IM circles since it's been pretty big and the ideas are backed by realistic examples which i like. I've followed this guy since about 2011 and he's been pretty successful since then, but in my mind this book is the practical and online business version of Fastlane Millionaire that Shannon has recommended.
Some of the ideas it talks about are a bit 'duh, i knew that already' but the overall scope of the book feels pretty solid as far as practicality and direct application of the ideas goes. Anyway, I hope it resonates well for those of you who take the dive and pick it up
Ivaylo, how is your overall ability to concentrate and learn / assimilate new information now as compared to before BASE? (so this is regarding MLS and LLFC)
This is something id like to see growth with myself since ill have to do research for my clients soon putting in long hours (at least initially) into each project.
(07-09-2016, 01:28 AM)heavysm Wrote: [ -> ]Ivaylo, how is your overall ability to concentrate and learn / assimilate new information now as compared to before BASE? (so this is regarding MLS and LLFC)
This is something id like to see growth with myself since ill have to do research for my clients soon putting in long hours (at least initially) into each project.
That's going to be a fast response.
I integrate information fairly easily. I've always been good at it, but there's a noticeable difference over the last 1.5 years. I can genuinely and deeply rely on myself to pick up and integrate information as needed.
I want to chime in on MLS and LLFC in BASE. My ability to learn and assimilate is definitely growing/increasing whenever I am on BASE. My mind sharper, clearer and faster. And it is getting more efficient when dealing with new input.
Regarding LLFC: great and working. The first time I really noticed it, I was going deeper and deeper into what I was doing at the time. Made me freak out at a certain point, because I thought I could not get out of that extremely focused state. Took me some time to become comfortable to being in such a mental condition. It is really a state of being that I experience being trained and increased while on BASE.
(07-09-2016, 01:28 AM)heavysm Wrote: [ -> ]Ivaylo, how is your overall ability to concentrate and learn / assimilate new information now as compared to before BASE? (so this is regarding MLS and LLFC)
This is something id like to see growth with myself since ill have to do research for my clients soon putting in long hours (at least initially) into each project.
Hey heavysm, it seems that I've missed your mention of LLFC before. Focus and concentration are great, as long as what I'm doing is interesting to me.
In terms of copywriting, when I'm actually writing for a niche that I identify myself with (or at least moderately enjoy learning about the subject), my clients are nothing but impressed with the depth of understanding in my writing and they always comment on it.
When the niche is not that interesting to me, on the other hand... unfortunately I inevitably get a "let's get it over with" mentality. I still produce copy that my clients are happy with, but nowhere near what *I* would be satisfied with.
I'm thinking that positioning myself as a writer for those few niches I'm comfortable in is going to solve a lot of my problems in this area... as well as giving me the confidence to change my pricing model (and potentially vastly increasing my income) as you suggested before.
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By the way, that's a perfect illustration for what I meant before. Every piece of programming seems to be there for me, but somehow I somewhat often fail to create for myself the right circumstances for me to express it. Or at least I don't feel any assistance from BASE to do so. Your advice though, if I understood it correctly, seems like pure gold for me - thanks!
(07-09-2016, 08:23 AM)Ivaylo Wrote: [ -> ]Hey heavysm, it seems that I've missed your mention of LLFC before. Focus and concentration are great, as long as what I'm doing is interesting to me.
In terms of copywriting, when I'm actually writing for a niche that I identify myself with (or at least moderately enjoy learning about the subject), my clients are nothing but impressed with the depth of understanding in my writing and they always comment on it.
When the niche is not that interesting to me, on the other hand... unfortunately I inevitably get a "let's get it over with" mentality. I still produce copy that my clients are happy with, but nowhere near what *I* would be satisfied with.
I'm thinking that positioning myself as a writer for those few niches I'm comfortable in is going to solve a lot of my problems in this area... as well as giving me the confidence to change my pricing model (and potentially vastly increasing my income) as you suggested before.
--
By the way, that's a perfect illustration for what I meant before. Every piece of programming seems to be there for me, but somehow I somewhat often fail to create for myself the right circumstances for me to express it. Or at least I don't feel any assistance from BASE to do so. Your advice though, if I understood it correctly, seems like pure gold for me - thanks!
One thing I can definitely attribute to BASE is destroying my mental wealth ceiling. Over each stage I was slowly planning bigger and bigger projects and i knew it was because the limits of what i thought was possible had expanded.
That's why i know i can smash results for my clients and demand a higher rate for my copy biz (and so can you!). I'm modeling and studying some of the legends in copy right now such as John Carlton, Gary Bencivenga and Clayton Makepeace. It's literally just about making sure you get the right connections and practicing to the point where your copy can produce consistent results, client after client after client (which is roughly the process i used to develop my traffic biz - funny huh?)
(07-09-2016, 06:53 PM)heavysm Wrote: [ -> ] (07-09-2016, 08:23 AM)Ivaylo Wrote: [ -> ]Hey heavysm, it seems that I've missed your mention of LLFC before. Focus and concentration are great, as long as what I'm doing is interesting to me.
In terms of copywriting, when I'm actually writing for a niche that I identify myself with (or at least moderately enjoy learning about the subject), my clients are nothing but impressed with the depth of understanding in my writing and they always comment on it.
When the niche is not that interesting to me, on the other hand... unfortunately I inevitably get a "let's get it over with" mentality. I still produce copy that my clients are happy with, but nowhere near what *I* would be satisfied with.
I'm thinking that positioning myself as a writer for those few niches I'm comfortable in is going to solve a lot of my problems in this area... as well as giving me the confidence to change my pricing model (and potentially vastly increasing my income) as you suggested before.
--
By the way, that's a perfect illustration for what I meant before. Every piece of programming seems to be there for me, but somehow I somewhat often fail to create for myself the right circumstances for me to express it. Or at least I don't feel any assistance from BASE to do so. Your advice though, if I understood it correctly, seems like pure gold for me - thanks!
One thing I can definitely attribute to BASE is destroying my mental wealth ceiling. Over each stage I was slowly planning bigger and bigger projects and i knew it was because the limits of what i thought was possible had expanded.
That's why i know i can smash results for my clients and demand a higher rate for my copy biz (and so can you!). I'm modeling and studying some of the legends in copy right now such as John Carlton, Gary Bencivenga and Clayton Makepeace. It's literally just about making sure you get the right connections and practicing to the point where your copy can produce consistent results, client after client after client (which is roughly the process i used to develop my traffic biz - funny huh?)
Fascinating to see that you've mentioned the three copywriters that I would consider my biggest influences. I know this is the model they use (and all other serious earners), but somehow I got stuck on Upwork doing projects I'm bored with.
I think it's exactly my wealth ceiling that needs to be destroyed. Again, sounds like a job for E2 since three rounds of BASE didn't do the trick for me. Much appreciated advice, heavysm!