dmsi so far so good.... (Afzal/Dzemoos run)

[Shannon]

Dzemoo Wrote:
Being direct and honest is the most beta thing you can do, you have ti lie to women and trick them to get what you want never reveal your true self


Saying to her you love her, while internally being cold is more alpba than saying you hate her while still havibg feelinfs for her

I have no problems being a man ***** as long as i get what i want, i have no problems crawling to a women and use beta game when i see alpha game dont work on her, i try different things out and see how they go you have to be flexible as a player ots ok to lose your outer frame as long as you keep your inner frame strong

Thats what some guys dont get they want to game all women in the same way

The most effective game is neither the beta game nor the alpha game its the nice asshole game, superifcally nice internally evil and manipulative thats the way of the most pussy juice

I'm not attacking you with this, but I have to call you out.

Dzemoo, more and more, I am concluding that you are completely confused at best. You get in your own way with women and life more than almost anyone I have ever met. One of your biggest problems is that you are not very good at thinking logically.

Lying to women is the most beta thing you can do. It means you don't have the BALLS to just put it out there and let the chips fall where they may. What you completely fail to understand is that you are a slave to your own dick, and as such, you become a slave to pussy, and thus women. Alphas have, first and foremost, self control.

It is beta to lie because it means you cannot achieve your goals on your own merit. It is alpha to be honest because being honest is too scary and difficult for most people to do, and it requires strength and another alpha trait, self mastery.

Another issue you have is that you need to clear emotionally, as it is apparent that you have suffered a lot of hurt in your life and probably always believed the lie society perpetuates that men don't have emotions, aren't manly/good enough if they do, aren't allowed to feel anything, and so you stuffed it down and tried to hide from it. I have news for you. You are human, first and foremost, and humans, male or female, have and must deal with having, emotions.

You change what you believe like the wind changes direction, and it is becoming more and more apparent that you're just lost and confused. But when you say things like this...

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I have no problems being a man ***** as long as i get what i want, i have no problems crawling to a women and use beta game when i see alpha game dont work on her, i try different things out and see how they go you have to be flexible as a player ots ok to lose your outer frame as long as you keep your inner frame strong

...it tells me that you really are a slave to your dick, and until that changes, you will never come across to women as much more than needy. I think that's what's killing it for you.

The most effective game I have ever found is no game at all. When you have genuinely mastered yourself and you don't need women, or pussy, or anything else, you don't need to "play games" to get companionship or sex and you won't put up with games from women either. Genuine alpha does not care if they have a woman. Betas are willing to stoop to any level to get what they need, and they need it because they cannot provide for themselves.

Ever since I stopped lying, years ago (I was ridiculously beta back then, by the way) and just started being honest, I have had vastly better experiences with women and vastly more high quality and worthwhile women in my life. If I can't tell them the truth, I just decline to comment.

But this ...

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Being direct and honest is the most beta thing you can do, you have ti lie to women and trick them to get what you want never reveal your true self

... is just assinine. It takes strength to be honest, and self mastery to not be a slave to your own dick. Those are alpha traits, and when you really do achieve self mastery and inner strength you'll see a huge difference in how others treat you.

But right now, you're a slave to sex and you're looking outside yourself for what you need to find inwardly when it comes to your emotions. You need women as long as you're in that state, and that is what makes a beta. No real alpha would ever go for "beta game". Alpha doesn't need to get a woman because he's self supplying emotionally and he isn't a slave to sex.

The good news is, I think the healing modules in DMSI are really doing a number on you. For the good. But don't go around saying that those of us who have actually achieved success are eta because you don't have the strength to be honest and deal with the consequences.

[Dzemoo]

Yeah i agree on the most and yes i am a slave to my dick and thats how i think jow maybe it will change in 6 months... But according to the 48 laws kf powers you are wrong shanon it often seems to me you have a too idealistic view on the world we are here to get our needs met and dont forget my dick thinking has brought me more pussy than the most users here will ever have

You might say thats not important but right now it is for me maybe it will change one day i am curious what dmsi can do for me and yes i sufdered a lot but this suffering made me superior to many guys

My ex said inam outwardly very beta but internally i am rock solid and unbreakable

Also i agree on what sicko said when u banged enough women you will heal

[Shannon]

You may be here to get your needs met, but who gets them met relying on others to do so, is at the mercy of others. Power comes from control, not being controlled.

Also i agree on what sicko said when u banged enough women you will heal

Agree all you like. The fact is, and any man who has enough experience can tell you this...

Banging women doesn't heal you. And you'll realize that when you've banged enough women.

[SargeMaximus]

I often get confused... is DMSI about healing or about getting laid?

[jonathan4all]

I often get confused... is DMSI about healing or about getting laid?

haha .. I know what you are thinking. The purpose of this sub should heal the penis first later soul.

[Sickologist]

Of course you heal when you've banged enough women. I just wrote about that on Chaos' thread. When you've banged enough women you will understand the following:

- They're just girls
- They love cock
- They want you
- Sex is fun, it can also be more
- Sex is the only way to really understand where you are and where you want to be
- You'll understand why women flake, asd, lmr etc
- Women are crazy
- You are more important to her than she is to you
- All idealistic/fantasy bs is washed away, you understand the game

There is no other method to acheive this.

[chaosvrgn]

Of course you heal when you've banged enough women. I just wrote about that on Chaos' thread. When you've banged enough women you will understand the following:

- They're just girls
- They love cock
- They want you
- Sex is fun, it can also be more
- Sex is the only way to really understand where you are and where you want to be
- You'll understand why women flake, asd, lmr etc
- Women are crazy
- You are more important to her than she is to you
- All idealistic/fantasy bs is washed away, you understand the game

There is no other method to acheive this.

Yea, I can agree with this. DMSI will help remove blockages to make the process easier, but you still have to go out and take SOME action if you want to get laid.

[Sickologist]

Absolutely, if guys would put some trust in Dr.Autopilot, they'd get better results. Though a more hardcore, hunter autopilot is worth a go.

[RisingSon]

I like Romanian house music for good love lyrics. Some of the most high vibe music I've heard, it's all I listen to nowadays.

Where are you from RisingSon?

USA. Grew up Western, now in the Ozarks.

[Shannon]

Of course you heal when you've banged enough women. I just wrote about that on Chaos' thread. When you've banged enough women you will understand the following:

- They're just girls
- They love cock
- They want you
- Sex is fun, it can also be more
- Sex is the only way to really understand where you are and where you want to be
- You'll understand why women flake, asd, lmr etc
- Women are crazy
- You are more important to her than she is to you
- All idealistic/fantasy bs is washed away, you understand the game

There is no other method to acheive this.

I think we're defining "healing" differently. What you're talking about is gaining experience. I'm talking about healing the shit they put you through emotionally.

[Dzemoo]

What some guys dont seem to get is they dont need to be healed to get pussy... They should rather take action instead of staying home healing and waiting to magically happen what they want, it will never happen by its own no. Matter how emotionally healed you are

Or do you think women crave to have sex with dalai lama ?

[Sickologist]

Yeah Dzemoo, I'm saying, put me in a club with all these "natural" puas with their meditation, yoga and eft crap and they'll get a serious reality check.

[Shawn]

I think there is a big misunderstanding about the healing/clearing in DMSI. It is intended to clear all the stuff that prevent taking action and all the stuff that is causing some kind of self sabotage on the way to get pussy and not turning you into a zen monk. If I would tell you how close I was to get sex several times and how strange way of self sabotage I experienced you probably wouldn't even believe me. That's what the healing is for. You, Sick or Chaos don't need the healing to get pussy at all. You probably only need it to get healthier pussy.

[Dzemoo]

Yeah Dzemoo, I'm saying, put me in a club with all these "natural" puas with their meditation, yoga and eft crap and they'll get a serious reality check.

Or their cold showers and no masturbation for state management lol