Shannon's Journal Discussion

[chaosvrgn]

Is anyone here experiencing a lot of deja vu while they run DMSI 2.5?

It's most likely the result of P4 and the reality bending tech. I talk about a similar phenomena in my journal.

[JackOfHearts]

The crazy ones are just a part of it, just like in life you can't go though without struggles and problems.
Personally id rather date a crazy one then learn how to deal with it. Rather than avoiding it. Dancing in the rain not avoiding it

Ya'll think that celebrities dont have crazy fans?

I don't necessarily wanna date every chick that I have sex with a few times lol

You don't have to. Once you are done just leave her apartment or if its yours try to make her leave. Dont say i love you, dont buy presents, dont do boyfriend stuff.
Just hit and run, then they will know for sure you aint relationship material.

My friend who i call natural made that mistake, then he got a crazy on his back for weeks.

I don't actually do one night stands, unless it was that terrible. Nor do I 'kick chicks out',not part of my value system,plus this town ain't that big. I like the grey area, but I don't like manifested craziness.

If you dont do one night stands then whats the point of running DMSI?

2 night stands

[robstar]

The crazy ones are just a part of it, just like in life you can't go though without struggles and problems.
Personally id rather date a crazy one then learn how to deal with it. Rather than avoiding it. Dancing in the rain not avoiding it

Ya'll think that celebrities dont have crazy fans?

I don't necessarily wanna date every chick that I have sex with a few times lol

You don't have to. Once you are done just leave her apartment or if its yours try to make her leave. Dont say i love you, dont buy presents, dont do boyfriend stuff.
Just hit and run, then they will know for sure you aint relationship material.

My friend who i call natural made that mistake, then he got a crazy on his back for weeks.

I don't actually do one night stands, unless it was that terrible. Nor do I 'kick chicks out',not part of my value system,plus this town ain't that big. I like the grey area, but I don't like manifested craziness.

If you dont do one night stands then whats the point of running DMSI?

To have sex repeatedly with girls you're attracted to? Or do you believe there's only one night stands or marriage?

[JackOfHearts]

I vote for one month stands

[bits]

Yea I wouldn't just leave or kick out girls for 3 reasons, 1) it's just a dick move 2) ends any future hookups making it impossible for you to have any legitimate "abundance" 3) girls tell each other everything, suddenly a great hookup becomes "he used me and he's an asshole" and you'll never hookup with her friends

Very few women are crazy and the ones that are you can spot pretty quick, if a woman pushes for a relationship it's simply a matter a case of saying no. After a handful of hookups they push it that way but if you shut it down quick it will only be an issue 1 or 2 times in your lifetime if even that. I've had chicks annoy me with too many calls and texts but never any actual crazy behavior.

Dzemoo did it and it worked for him...

yea but he also approached multiple girls a day and agressively escalated within minutes, if you can copy dzemoos game like that then it can workout but otherwise you'll always be needy for sex rather than being able to call up 3 or 4 different girls who are ready to hookup whenever you want

[Illumi]

I don't necessarily wanna date every chick that I have sex with a few times lol

You don't have to. Once you are done just leave her apartment or if its yours try to make her leave. Dont say i love you, dont buy presents, dont do boyfriend stuff.
Just hit and run, then they will know for sure you aint relationship material.

My friend who i call natural made that mistake, then he got a crazy on his back for weeks.

I don't actually do one night stands, unless it was that terrible. Nor do I 'kick chicks out',not part of my value system,plus this town ain't that big. I like the grey area, but I don't like manifested craziness.

If you dont do one night stands then whats the point of running DMSI?

To have sex repeatedly with girls you're attracted to? Or do you believe there's only one night stands or marriage?

The point is with DMSI one night stands are inevitable.

[Shannon]

It is aimed at being similar in effect to Allo-THDOC and others, in effect a subliminal result like that of the "reset" pheromone(s). It's aimed at triggering the affected brain to decide that their previous classification of you is in error, and change it to "must **** - NOW."

#3 aims to cause them to perceive you as being their ideal sexual choice and higher value than they are in terms of status.
#4 aims to add to #3 by getting them to perceive you as being everything they want and need sexually, and in a sexual partner.
And #5, which I have not started working on, will be aimed at causing a "celebrity" level status enhancement, and causing them to see it as being "no big deal" to approach because there is already a familiarity and level of comfort present that would result from having already had amazing sex with the user, and being comfortable with approaching and initiating, regardless of the stunning nature of their status and good looks. This one is going to be very hard to pull off because it is sort of a self contradiction, but I will try.

1) So we have the TAC effect and now the Allo-THDOC effect. Can you put in the 3ß-Androstanediol effect(s) too? (I think that was the secret ingredient in the raved about and legendary A314 versions.)

One step at a time, my friend. I'm working on it.

2) I think you also mentioned that there was a classification of "must **** - NOW and FOREVER". Is that still in there?

In the wording that won the modeling runs. Maybe not exactly like that...

3) In terms of the aims being contradictory, it seems to me women (and even many people) live in an inner world of contradictions so I would expect you could pull this off.

We are certainly going to try.

4) Seems all these aims are consistent with a woman being sexually motivated. Higher value than themselves in status. Everything they want and need sexually and as a sexual partner. Familiarity. Comfort. And the celebrity status (which I'm guessing includes feelings of awe and admiration). I know logically this may appear as contradictions, but I think sex has a logic of it's own, and I think this all fits well together.

I may have to adjust some of that to be polymorphic in the future to keep it truly gender unspecified in user base, but we will take it as it comes.

Besides I don't think a woman is going to say "Hey! Wait a minute! Why do I think of this guy like my favorite celebrity yet it just feels so natural and normal?" Even if she does wonder, I think she'll be "too busy wanting to hold on to and enjoy the feelings and reinforcing those feelings to effectively maintain them". But then again, perhaps that should be added too just to be safe.

The reactions I am triggering are below the threshhold of consciousness at first, and they are not coming through the neo-cortex. The parts of the rain processing these are not capable of logic. That's why you say "sex has a logic of it's own". What you're saying is that women (and men probably are too) are in large part irrational when it comes to sex.

I haven't heard anyone suggest this(forgive me if I've missed it), but is it possible to put some sort of 'don't attract women who might become obsessed and try to kill us if we no longer want them' coding? All this stuff is awesome, but usually repeated sex leads to some sort of psychological/emotional/spiritual attachment,possibly even relationships, and women would probably see you as the 'best thing ever' if this thing is working at max potential.

Any way to weed out the crazy ones so they aren't going insane if we gotta part ways?

It is possible, but first we have to know what we need to dial back from. And it is unlikely that we can prevent it entirely. I don't want to limit the program and kill the result... I want to achieve the result and then lightly filter it.

[Shannon]

I think that potential program to make the affected have porno fantasies about you and cant stop think about you like this is taking it waay waay too far. I REALLY do Man! U asked in your journal what we thot. Isnt DMSI Already powerful as heck as it is!? I KNow yer tweaking and fine tuning this thang and trying things out but I think that one is taking it way to far. Ok , View and Opinion offered.
Keith.

Thank you, Keith, I appreciate your input. DMSI being powerful isn't making it do what it needs to do yet.

I have been forced on a number of occasions to use methods I did not want to use initially, and sometimes, resisted using for years, while developing the technology. In every case, it turned out to be the only way to achieve the necessary results. AND, it turned out to be a lot less bad than I had thought it would be - in many cases, not "bad" at all.

In this case, what I'm doing is not even sure to be possible. If it is, then we'll have to figure out how to adjust it for various reasons. But until we try it, how do we know if it is even possible? And without knowing that, what are we unable to know and do in other directions?

[Shannon]

Shannon, your progress reports for DMSI 3.01 are getting me so excited!!

Around when do you think it will be released?

It should be apparent by now that I never release anything until I am happy with it. The answer to that question is, always has been and always will be...

when it's ready.

That's why you are willing pay me so much money for my products, as opposed to other "subliminals" out there... I take my time, and I do it right.

[Shannon]

Shannon, if V2.5 doesn't have any healing modules.. Why oh why did I have an intensely vivid dream about hooking up with an ex and now have difficulty stopping thinking about her?

Because the program is force marching you through to achieve the goal, regardless of what it takes.

[CatMan]

Shannon, if V2.5 doesn't have any healing modules.. Why oh why did I have an intensely vivid dream about hooking up with an ex and now have difficulty stopping thinking about her?

Hi Rob!

It's the same reason why I have progressed on this sub more than other versions, even though it has no healing.

Shannon has told me that it's because of the increased power of this sub. It having P3 and P4 pushing the words per second into the stratosphere. And the stiffened anti-resistance technology, enabling it to at times bulldoze issues you have and mimic clearing modules in it.

Overall, for me, V2.5 has been the first to begin to break through my issues despite having no clearing. It is making me very excited for V3.0.1. I think that might be the one for me at last. We shall see, I'll let the data see. I definitely feel changes from this one, though.

[JackOfHearts]

You don't have to. Once you are done just leave her apartment or if its yours try to make her leave. Dont say i love you, dont buy presents, dont do boyfriend stuff.
Just hit and run, then they will know for sure you aint relationship material.

My friend who i call natural made that mistake, then he got a crazy on his back for weeks.

I don't actually do one night stands, unless it was that terrible. Nor do I 'kick chicks out',not part of my value system,plus this town ain't that big. I like the grey area, but I don't like manifested craziness.

If you dont do one night stands then whats the point of running DMSI?

To have sex repeatedly with girls you're attracted to? Or do you believe there's only one night stands or marriage?

The point is with DMSI one night stands are inevitable.

Maybe, but I don't see the point of going only for ONS if that's what you meant previously. I see ONS as a waste of time, what can you possibly do in only one night VS 10 nights or more? To have sex with a girl more than once is more profitable that throwing her away after the first day. Unless she is crazy of course or so low value that you only want her for one night.

[Illumi]

I don't actually do one night stands, unless it was that terrible. Nor do I 'kick chicks out',not part of my value system,plus this town ain't that big. I like the grey area, but I don't like manifested craziness.

If you dont do one night stands then whats the point of running DMSI?

To have sex repeatedly with girls you're attracted to? Or do you believe there's only one night stands or marriage?

The point is with DMSI one night stands are inevitable.

Maybe, but I don't see the point of going only for ONS if that's what you meant previously. I see ONS as a waste of time, what can you possibly do in only one night VS 10 nights or more? To have sex with a girl more than once is more profitable that throwing her away after the first day. Unless she is crazy of course or so low value that you only want her for one night.

He was talking about not wanting women to think he wants a relationship. And i told him the best way to let women know that you are not bf material is that once you have sex, you leave or make her leave. I never said you can only have sex once, i just said that you dont have to stay over once you are done

[CatMan]

Hi Shannon!

I'm curious, is DMSI V3.0.1 still going to have the emotional shielding ported over from E2, or maybe it'll just be in the clearing version? That would be amazing, just in case we hit those bumps in the road so to speak. Especially while aggressively doing the forced march.

Also, is the release still on target by the end of the month? How are the agreements coming along for the two custom jobs? Congratulations on getting those by the way.