Shannon's Journal Discussion

[SargeMaximus]

Limitations, hunh?

This coming from the guy that thinks you're "giving away your male power" if you say hello to a woman in public.

1st of all, I'm pretty sure I have more balls then you in that area. I've pushed things things and made things happen that are way beyond what's socially acceptable.

2nd of all I can tell you from experience that as soon as you pursue a girl, you lose power to her, whether you know it or not. There are a lot better ways for things to happen trust me.

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yarrrgh matey's, these be treacherous waters. The blimey AMOGs are afoot and they be hankerin' for trouble!!!!

As much as I agree with you chaos, there is indeed something to what he's saying. Unless I'm more socially retarded than I realize, any time I've gone and tried to make something happen with a girl after she has shown interest she has lost interest instantly.

Like I said, there's something to it. It's like there's a certain way to respond to women. I dunno anything beyond that.

No. There isn't.

There's a vast difference between pursuing a woman -- as in chasing (and thus treating her as the prize) -- and approaching a woman to talk to her.

4Kingdoms keeps asking why I have such success with DMSI in the past. The answer is simple: I approach, I tell them I want them and voila! The times that I have been passive (like with #3), I ended up losing the woman, because passivity is NOT natural for men.

You can walk around with as much charged hate as you want, and very few women will approach and talk to you unless you're famous or you're built like a Greek god. That's the natural order of things.

As a man, you're the expansive force, the force that hunts, the force that penetrates. She's the passive receiver. Look at the sex act itself: You penetrate. You **** her senseless until she can do nothing but babble. You care only about your own pleasure, and she derives her pleasure from you getting off!

In the natural state of things, no matter what the SJWs say, no matter what the AMOGs say, no matter what the zen masters say -- she will NEVER actively hunt and pursue a man.

Hence, why DMSI is such a big deal. It actually bends natural law (without breaking it, hence one of the reasons Shannon probably shies away from a conscious sniper module -- you'd be interfering with will). This even applies in the animal world, where the female will present herself to the male (IOIs) and the male must still make the approach and claim her as his own.

In primal days, the man would approach the woman and bonk her over the head with a rock, then take her away for the fuckin'. But still, the masculine essence is the agent that impresses his will upon a person.

Whether it's fair or not, whether we like it or not, this the way the universe operates. It's constantly moving toward perfection, and it doesn't give a **** about how the individual person feels about it. These processes want the strong to survive, thrive and procreate and the weak to die off. Sitting on your laurels, claiming to be alpha because you're doing NOTHING is insane.

*Sigh* I really didn't want things to go in this direction, but my experience in my life must be honored.

First of all, like I said (Which you didn't even address):

"any time I've gone and tried to make something happen with a girl after she has shown interest she has lost interest instantly."

So I don't know what's going on in those situations, but obviously the act of "expanding" was more of a turn-off than a turn-on.

Second: I've been approached by women a lot throughout my life. Like a lot (mostly before subs) and I was never very "expansive" or anything that fits what you're talking about, so that again, makes no sense to me.

Third:



/\ That is nature. That is clearly a female seducing a male. Aside from the actual thrusting, EVERYTHING was done by the female.

Like I've said: if monkeys can do it, so can we.

Btw, if I'm not mistaken, that video is a good example of an alpha sitting on his laurels.

[chaosvrgn]

To be honest, Sarge, it's not really going to go in any "direction" because you've shown a remarkable capacity to misunderstand, misconstrue and downright ignore the essence of what someone's telling you to the point that there's no real benefit for me to spend a significant amount of time explaining things to you.

The human female equivalent of the video you showed is the IOI. What you and 2Cops are advocating is ignoring the signals she's giving to come and approach.

(EDIT: In Gorilla reproduction, ONLY the silverback has the right to procreate. Everyone else must sneak fuck the women.)

You're literally arguing that approaching a woman is "giving away your power," while passively sitting there and letting her CHOOSE OR REJECT YOU is instead empowerment.

That's by far the most ridiculous argument I've seen on this forum yet.

We've had this conversation before: You have your mind made up before entering the conversation. The fact of the matter -- if we want to get technical and logical -- is you are a virgin, and what you've been doing clearly isn't working for you. And yet, instead of truly exploring different avenues, you're continuing to rely on the same exact paradigms that have failed you before.

There's a beautiful quote from "No Country for Old Men," that goes something like this: "If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

So, if ignorance suits you, wear it. Continue to "honor" your limited experience and ignore those who are much more experienced around you.

[Benjamin]

Sarge, 'honoring your experience' and such is going to bring more of your experience and that is of staying a virgin. Posting all kinds of elabourate rationalizations, an actual video about monkeys having sex showing why it must be correct to rationalize your own issues is just bringing more of that.

Your experience so far is of not getting laid and you're arguing very strongly to keep that limitation.

[Cozy]

To be honest, Sarge, it's not really going to go in any "direction" because you've shown a remarkable capacity to misunderstand, misconstrue and downright ignore the essence of what someone's telling you to the point that there's no real benefit for me to spend a significant amount of time explaining things to you.

The human female equivalent of the video you showed is the IOI. What you and 2Cops are advocating is ignoring the signals she's giving to come and approach.

(EDIT: In Gorilla reproduction, ONLY the silverback has the right to procreate. Everyone else must sneak **** the women.)

You're literally arguing that approaching a woman is "giving away your power," while passively sitting there and letting her CHOOSE OR REJECT YOU is instead empowerment.

That's by far the most ridiculous argument I've seen on this forum yet.

We've had this conversation before: You have your mind made up before entering the conversation. The fact of the matter -- if we want to get technical and logical -- is you are a virgin, and what you've been doing clearly isn't working for you. And yet, instead of truly exploring different avenues, you're continuing to rely on the same exact paradigms that have failed you before.

There's a beautiful quote from "No Country for Old Men," that goes something like this: "If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

So, if ignorance suits you, wear it. Continue to "honor" your limited experience and ignore those who are much more experienced around you.

Just because men usually have power doesn't mean women can't and won't take it from you. That's the natural order of things... men have power, women use men's power. Even when a woman shows you interest she's giving up power to you, you think the same doesn't apply to you just because you're a male? Don't make me laugh.

[Edited,Moderator note:No flaming,keep it civil]

[chaosvrgn]

To be honest, Sarge, it's not really going to go in any "direction" because you've shown a remarkable capacity to misunderstand, misconstrue and downright ignore the essence of what someone's telling you to the point that there's no real benefit for me to spend a significant amount of time explaining things to you.

The human female equivalent of the video you showed is the IOI. What you and 2Cops are advocating is ignoring the signals she's giving to come and approach.

(EDIT: In Gorilla reproduction, ONLY the silverback has the right to procreate. Everyone else must sneak **** the women.)

You're literally arguing that approaching a woman is "giving away your power," while passively sitting there and letting her CHOOSE OR REJECT YOU is instead empowerment.

That's by far the most ridiculous argument I've seen on this forum yet.

We've had this conversation before: You have your mind made up before entering the conversation. The fact of the matter -- if we want to get technical and logical -- is you are a virgin, and what you've been doing clearly isn't working for you. And yet, instead of truly exploring different avenues, you're continuing to rely on the same exact paradigms that have failed you before.

There's a beautiful quote from "No Country for Old Men," that goes something like this: "If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

So, if ignorance suits you, wear it. Continue to "honor" your limited experience and ignore those who are much more experienced around you.

Just because men usually have power doesn't mean women can't and won't take it from you. That's the natural order of things... men have power, women use men's power. Even when a woman shows you interest she's giving up power to you, you think the same doesn't apply to you just because you're a male? Don't make me laugh.

Aren't you the guy who said he was only able to bag drug addicts or something? You don't have too high an opinion of the women you've been with, why should we value your experience?

No. You have me confused with someone else.

My last posted conquests was a doctor and a 9/10 blonde. However, in my travels and adventures around the United States, I've banged drug addicts, hookers, women that I paid afterward even if they didn't ask (because I made them my hooker), virgins of every faith, women pretending to be virgins of every faith, married women, women who may not have been born women, and everything in-between.

But to answer your question, whether or not you "value my experience" is completely your choice. And I couldn't care less which route you walk.

I'm bored. I'm watching "SCREAM: The TV Show," and I'm finding much amusement in ripping apart your rather illogical and simplistic arguments.

[Cozy]

To be honest, Sarge, it's not really going to go in any "direction" because you've shown a remarkable capacity to misunderstand, misconstrue and downright ignore the essence of what someone's telling you to the point that there's no real benefit for me to spend a significant amount of time explaining things to you.

Sarge, you should be honoured that he used so many convoluted words to attack you.

[Cozy]

To be honest, Sarge, it's not really going to go in any "direction" because you've shown a remarkable capacity to misunderstand, misconstrue and downright ignore the essence of what someone's telling you to the point that there's no real benefit for me to spend a significant amount of time explaining things to you.

The human female equivalent of the video you showed is the IOI. What you and 2Cops are advocating is ignoring the signals she's giving to come and approach.

(EDIT: In Gorilla reproduction, ONLY the silverback has the right to procreate. Everyone else must sneak **** the women.)

You're literally arguing that approaching a woman is "giving away your power," while passively sitting there and letting her CHOOSE OR REJECT YOU is instead empowerment.

That's by far the most ridiculous argument I've seen on this forum yet.

We've had this conversation before: You have your mind made up before entering the conversation. The fact of the matter -- if we want to get technical and logical -- is you are a virgin, and what you've been doing clearly isn't working for you. And yet, instead of truly exploring different avenues, you're continuing to rely on the same exact paradigms that have failed you before.

There's a beautiful quote from "No Country for Old Men," that goes something like this: "If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use was the rule?"

So, if ignorance suits you, wear it. Continue to "honor" your limited experience and ignore those who are much more experienced around you.

Just because men usually have power doesn't mean women can't and won't take it from you. That's the natural order of things... men have power, women use men's power. Even when a woman shows you interest she's giving up power to you, you think the same doesn't apply to you just because you're a male? Don't make me laugh.

Aren't you the guy who said he was only able to bag drug addicts or something? You don't have too high an opinion of the women you've been with, why should we value your experience?

No. You have me confused with someone else.

My last posted conquests was a doctor and a 9/10 blonde. However, in my travels and adventures around the United States, I've banged drug addicts, hookers, women that I paid afterward even if they didn't ask (because I made them my hooker), virgins of every faith, women pretending to be virgins of every faith, married women, women who may not have been born women, and everything in-between.

But to answer your question, whether or not you "value my experience" is completely your choice. And I couldn't care less which route you walk.

I'm bored. I'm watching "SCREAM: The TV Show," and I'm finding much amusement in ripping apart your rather illogical and simplistic arguments.

I must have missed the part in your reply where you "ripped apart my arguments".

[K-Train]

Hey there 2Cozy, I think this convo may go a little better if you explain what your personally definition is of "giving power away"? I've heard it before and in some instances of its use I understood it but I'm not understanding its use here. Thanks.

[chaosvrgn]

@2Copy --

This is getting needlessly out of hand, and I promised Ben and the Maestro that I was going to stop being one of the troublemakers here.

We're all brothers trying to connect with something greater than ourselves while making that green and getting our dicks wet in the process.

Love you, brother. You too, Sarge.

[Roy]

Rule no.5"Flaming" others, flame wars, and unnecessary rudeness and arguing are prohibited.

Keep this discussion civil and on point.

[SargeMaximus]

I don't even know how to respond to all this. But it definitely seems like until I have my d!ck in a pussy I'll constantly be doing things wrong according to the more experienced members here.

[Illumi]

@2Copy --

This is getting needlessly out of hand, and I promised Ben and the Maestro that I was going to stop being one of the troublemakers here.

We're all brothers trying to connect with something greater than ourselves while making that green and getting our dicks wet in the process.

Love you, brother. You too, Sarge.

Well said *slowly claps*

[Benjamin]

2Cozy, Roy beat me to it but you're getting to the point where it doesn't seem you really have a point with what you're saying and you just want to cause arguments. Let's not let it escalate.

I didn't see Chaos's post as an attack on sarge but pointing out something.

[Life]

Hey there 2Cozy, I think this convo may go a little better if you explain what your personally definition is of "giving power away"? I've heard it before and in some instances of its use I understood it but I'm not understanding its use here. Thanks.

I think he means socially, but one on one, not so much